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Jun 23, 2010 4:58 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So, Aizen apparantly decided to kill off everyone one by one lol, not that id complain about that.


"new" Zangetsu looks interesting. sort of like fussion between zangetsu and shirosaki.


Although I expect many haters will jump on his design going on some nonsense on how he looks.vBut seriously, Looks pretty much like Zangetsu but ~30 years younger, with no shades or beard. I don't see anything wrong with his design.

And Isshin's sword name goes yet again towards my theory about kurosaki family and whole noble families/higher caste. After all, the real world higher castes have something to separate them from commoners. Whats a better way to separate a noble shinigami clan/group from a commoner than to give them similar types of swords to be associated with them..


Its also interesting on how the whole "raining in the inner world" continues....well....going by what we see now, its been raining.....a lot. Also it seems we will finally find out the truth behind the whole zangetsu stuff.

And nice use of foreshadowing aizen's current situation with Stark.

Oh and aizen might have some relation to kurosaki family after all:
- Zangetsu
- Engetsu
- Tensa Zangetsu
- Kyouka Suigetsu
- Getsuga Tenshou
5/5


EDIT:

oh and heres interesting bit about the color spread. Apparantly the double-headed eagle represents the emperor and its "duality", its "Dual nature". NOw think about Ichigo and his two sides:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
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At first, I thought the new Zangetsu was a woman..

Ahwell, rather interesting chapter.
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BACKGROUNDS, WHO NEEDS THEM


overall 4.9/5

really wanted more of this chapter.. its just too little material.. this is dragging too much.. took less than a minute

i wonder if someone will come to protect those friends ( if ichigo wont made)
like Urahara?
Jun 23, 2010 2:26 PM
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Ulquiorra, is that you?

Fujiyoshi-bait aside, it was a fairly decent read in that it had material that didn't take all but 90 seconds to read.
Jun 23, 2010 2:32 PM
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At first i was like is that Ulquiorra.
I think I'm going crazy.
Nothing really happenedthere should have been a few extra pages.
Jun 23, 2010 2:32 PM
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Plot advancement in Bleach?! No way! It's a lie!!

Anyone knows with what kanji Engetsu is written with?
Jun 23, 2010 2:34 PM
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Plot advancement in Bleach?! No way! It's a lie!!

Anyone knows with what kanji Engetsu is written with?



If you are wondering on what engetsu means in this particular case, its crescent moon
Jun 23, 2010 2:34 PM
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too short. fairly interesting tho.
Jun 23, 2010 2:49 PM
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Same bullshit as always. Good Kubo.
Jun 23, 2010 2:51 PM

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VERY interesting I must say!
Tensa Zangetsu is kinda hot.... Can't wait until next week!
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I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/
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I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Jun 23, 2010 3:11 PM

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How to waste 15 pages. At least the remaining ones where pretty interesting.
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engetsu , zangetsu , suigetsu ok im starting to think they are 1 big family like some noble and they were opressed? thats why aizen wants to be God and thats also why he knew ichigo they moment he was born
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i thought zangetsu was a woman when he still had his hood up and i was about to have a heart attack thinking ichigo's mom was going to appear and help ichigo beat down shirosaki in resurcession hollow mode.

i thought the 'what i want to protect' thing was pretty bs. I mean, if ichigo wants to protect the town and risks his life doing that, ends up dying, doesn't zangetsu die?

oh bleach, if only you didn't take 2 minutes to read every week.
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Very nice chapter. Ichigo never was in his inner world in the bankai state, indeed. And the first thing that came to my mind after seeing Zangetsu's form was - it's him, just younger.
What is it that Zangetsu wants to protect? Maybe it's power too destructive and dangerous, or maybe it can somehow hurt itself while fighting...
We also saw someone's death, not of someone inportant, but still, a bit depressing.
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asterixk said:
engetsu , zangetsu , suigetsu ok im starting to think they are 1 big family like some noble and they were opressed? thats why aizen wants to be God and thats also why he knew ichigo they moment he was born



out of all "moon" zanpakutohs we seen, so far two had the abbility to use getsuga tenshou and both most likely are in perma-shikai form. Now we find out that their spirit names are similar.

And both wielders of engetsu and zangetsu belong to the same family.

Also, Ichigo is a firstborn and firstborns usually inherit the inheritance, family sword, etc.


The only "odd" one is Aizen, who goes against all these factors. Could he be some kind of "rogue" member of that family? Someone who specifically chose to ignore the main traits of his own blood?

LiarK said:

What is it that Zangetsu wants to protect? Maybe it's power too destructive and dangerous, or maybe it can somehow hurt itself while fighting...
We also saw someone's death, not of someone inportant, but still, a bit depressing.

1. Remember what Gin said in his fight with ichigo in these few previous chapters?
2. Remember the choice Zangetsu gave during the fight against Zaraki?
3. Remember the "I hate rain"?


Now, remember all those things and what Tensa said this chapter gets a whole lot more meaningful.
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It wasn't that bad. it was actually pretyt nice
"tensa zangestu" looks like a cross of ichigo and aizen lmaooo...
so yeah maybe it's a whole kazoku thing..who knows
anywayz hopefully nexxt few chapters shuld be interesting!
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Best Bleach chapter in a long time. Seeing Tensa Zangetsu as a separate form from Zangetsu was pretty cool.

Hopefully this arc turns out a lot better than the Fake Karakura Town arc.
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That's how that chapter's going to end? Really? Um, okay.

And everyone got their wish. Aizen is actually killing people now. People so weak they have no chance in hell of even looking at him and surviving. How nice. Thanks Kubo. :P
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RUKIA, MY LOVE, I MISSED YOU. YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL ON THAT COLOR SPREAD. ;___; <3

Also, Tenga Zangetsu looks like the offspring of Ulqui and Byakuya, but I'm not complaining. One more bishi to the mix doesn't hurt. ;)

I love Kubo and this chapter and the water and the rain and Tatsuki. <3


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Fai said:
asterixk said:
engetsu , zangetsu , suigetsu ok im starting to think they are 1 big family like some noble and they were opressed? thats why aizen wants to be God and thats also why he knew ichigo they moment he was born



out of all "moon" zanpakutohs we seen, so far two had the abbility to use getsuga tenshou and both most likely are in perma-shikai form. Now we find out that their spirit names are similar.

And both wielders of engetsu and zangetsu belong to the same family.

Also, Ichigo is a firstborn and firstborns usually inherit the inheritance, family sword, etc.


The only "odd" one is Aizen, who goes against all these factors. Could he be some kind of "rogue" member of that family? Someone who specifically chose to ignore the main traits of his own blood?

Or maybe Aizen is the second born son or something, so he gets the family name, but a different power.

Anyway, good to see that Bleach can still be entertaining. Hopefully Kubo will keep this up.
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GanonBR said:
Fai said:
asterixk said:
engetsu , zangetsu , suigetsu ok im starting to think they are 1 big family like some noble and they were opressed? thats why aizen wants to be God and thats also why he knew ichigo they moment he was born



out of all "moon" zanpakutohs we seen, so far two had the abbility to use getsuga tenshou and both most likely are in perma-shikai form. Now we find out that their spirit names are similar.

And both wielders of engetsu and zangetsu belong to the same family.

Also, Ichigo is a firstborn and firstborns usually inherit the inheritance, family sword, etc.


The only "odd" one is Aizen, who goes against all these factors. Could he be some kind of "rogue" member of that family? Someone who specifically chose to ignore the main traits of his own blood?

Or maybe Aizen is the second born son or something, so he gets the family name, but a different power.

Anyway, good to see that Bleach can still be entertaining. Hopefully Kubo will keep this up.



I'd go for Aizen and Isshin being brothers - Isshin the older, Aizen the younger one.

So isshin inherits the sword and aizen, out of jealously or something or some tragedy, steals someone else's in the family or etc.


There was just something.....brother-like when Isshin interrupted Aizen and that whole finger flick he did.


Aizen has zanpakuto named after water and water is shown as BAD thing in inner world. Could Suigetsu be some sort of corrupted/twisted/dark sword of the family?


oh and heres interesting bit about the color spread. Apparantly the double-headed eagle represents the emperor and its "duality", its "Dual nature". NOw think about Ichigo and his two sides:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle
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Elder / family figure attitude / librarian, it's possible.

And wow, Ichi's sword is schizophrenic, snazzy. Yes the first was shikai, the second was hollow, the third was bankai, but they're all part of the same sword, schizophrenia is a great thing, wonder if the grandmother will come out next, "I'm grangetsu, ohayo"

But another look into Isshin at least, his zan's name, he went through the same thing, blah blah, wonder if we'll get "we don't want to protect the same thing, I want to protect your bloodline / you" *shock*

I thought the new form was a female though :/ reminded me of Rukia, I guess Tite just wanted to make another bishie to not kill off.
Anyway, at least it's picking up finally, but I've said that a lot these past months, I could be very wrong.
Jun 23, 2010 4:39 PM

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And wow, Ichi's sword is schizophrenic, snazzy. Yes the first was shikai, the second was hollow, the third was bankai, but they're all part of the same sword, schizophrenia is a great thing, wonder if the grandmother will come out next, "I'm grangetsu, ohayo"



And then you suddenly understand tha tall those personalities + his inner zaraki ž all part of ichigo's soul.


Freud would be having a field day talking to ichi.
Jun 23, 2010 4:47 PM

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I still think Aizen looks damn stupid with that long hair.
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Fai said:
ReaperEXE said:
I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Quoted for obligatory "LOLfanboy is still a fanboy, regardless of how hard he tries to troll" example of this thread. ( *≖‿≖*)
Hi, kid. I used my words properly, you just need to learn how to read better =(. You are the perfect example of a blind, obsessed Bleach troll fanboy, who eats up every piece of garbage Kubo publishes, claiming it to be intelligent, logical, or consistent. This chapter was a disappointment because it had little-to-no trolls. You read Bleach yet don't understand that everything Kubo publishes in Bleach is a nonsensical troll with a weak plot at best.
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Fai said:
ReaperEXE said:
I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Quoted for obligatory "LOLfanboy is still a fanboy, regardless of how hard he tries to troll" example of this thread. ( *≖‿≖*)
Hi, kid. I used my words properly, you just need to learn how to read better =(. You are the perfect example of a blind, obsessed Bleach troll fanboy, who eats up every piece of garbage Kubo publishes, claiming it to be intelligent, logical, or consistent. This chapter was a disappointment because it had little-to-no trolls. You read Bleach yet don't understand that everything Kubo publishes in Bleach is a nonsensical troll with a weak plot at best.


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good chapter lol cant wait for next week

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how come you have a new sig of vampire diaries almost every time i come here? lol i love that show :D
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ReaperEXE said:
Fai said:
ReaperEXE said:
I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Quoted for obligatory "LOLfanboy is still a fanboy, regardless of how hard he tries to troll" example of this thread. ( *≖‿≖*)
Hi, kid. I used my words properly, you just need to learn how to read better =(. You are the perfect example of a blind, obsessed Bleach troll fanboy, who eats up every piece of garbage Kubo publishes, claiming it to be intelligent, logical, or consistent. This chapter was a disappointment because it had little-to-no trolls. You read Bleach yet don't understand that everything Kubo publishes in Bleach is a nonsensical troll with a weak plot at best.


just cause he likes it doesnt make him a fanboy.....it's called difference of opinion
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Just like saying bleach was a pile of crap for over a year, doesn't make me a hater, I just have a difference of opinion : o
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just cause he likes it doesnt make him a fanboy.....it's called difference of opinion


Exactly! It's his retarded comments and theories that are more like bad fanfiction that makes him a fanboy ;)
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Does Kubo have a fetish for Renji? he's like in every color spread lol

Anyway, nothing special happened, Zangetsu looks like a mini Byakuya and Ichigo will play another hero role to save Tatsuki and his friends.by the way I love how Kubo ignores the other characters with no conclusion on them in Fake Kurakara

3/5
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I suppose I don't have any complaints about the pretty boy Zangetsu... sorry. I meant Tensa Zangetsu. He definitely still looks like a younger version of the old man. I'm just not looking forward to the jokes about how sexy Ichigo's "sword" is.

I suppose Aizen could be a threat to Ichigo's friends, then again he may have no interest in them and walk on by. He didn't seem to have any interest in the poor fool who walked up on him.

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wtf wtf i want my badass zangetsu with shades and the beard, get this bishi out of my face.
Jun 23, 2010 6:04 PM

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Damn,,,i thought he was a girl too..
Jun 23, 2010 6:52 PM

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Shirosaki and Tensa Zangetsu should go fight each other some time.
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So the bankai form of the zanpakutou have a different form from it's shikai? If this is what I think it is, I can expect another filler arc on the anime about another zanpakutou arc concerning their second forms :D

Anyway, this was a really good chapter.
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First time I saw Tensa Zangetsu he did really remind me of Ulqui. Lol.
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suigetsu00 said:
ReaperEXE said:
Fai said:
ReaperEXE said:
I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Quoted for obligatory "LOLfanboy is still a fanboy, regardless of how hard he tries to troll" example of this thread. ( *≖‿≖*)
Hi, kid. I used my words properly, you just need to learn how to read better =(. You are the perfect example of a blind, obsessed Bleach troll fanboy, who eats up every piece of garbage Kubo publishes, claiming it to be intelligent, logical, or consistent. This chapter was a disappointment because it had little-to-no trolls. You read Bleach yet don't understand that everything Kubo publishes in Bleach is a nonsensical troll with a weak plot at best.


just cause he likes it doesnt make him a fanboy.....it's called difference of opinion


He is a fanboy-troll, have you seen him troll Naruto to death, making silly polls and everything. But when it comes to Bleach, its like prefect, and when someone trys to bash Bleach, and point out plot holes and stuff, he get bent out of shape.
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So, Aizen apparantly decided to kill off everyone one by one lol, not that id complain about that.


"new" Zangetsu looks interesting. sort of like fussion between zangetsu and shirosaki.


Although I expect many haters will jump on his design going on some nonsense on how he looks.vBut seriously, Looks pretty much like Zangetsu but ~30 years younger, with no shades or beard. I don't see anything wrong with his design.

And Isshin's sword name goes yet again towards my theory about kurosaki family and whole noble families/higher caste. After all, the real world higher castes have something to separate them from commoners. Whats a better way to separate a noble shinigami clan/group from a commoner than to give them similar types of swords to be associated with them..


Its also interesting on how the whole "raining in the inner world" continues....well....going by what we see now, its been raining.....a lot. Also it seems we will finally find out the truth behind the whole zangetsu stuff.

And nice use of foreshadowing aizen's current situation with Stark.

Oh and aizen might have some relation to kurosaki family after all:
- Zangetsu
- Engetsu
- Tensa Zangetsu
- Kyouka Suigetsu
- Getsuga Tenshou
5/5


EDIT:

oh and heres interesting bit about the color spread. Apparantly the double-headed eagle represents the emperor and its "duality", its "Dual nature". NOw think about Ichigo and his two sides:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle


That's an interesting theory right there. =O
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For once, I kind of agree with Fai's opening post here except for the nobility having similar swords part and the relation of Aizen to Ichigo, including the swords. It doesn't have much basis to support it, yet. But yeah, Tensa Zangetsu does look like a younger Zangetsu though Kubo really loves bishies. So Aizen is going to walk around killing people then talk to Tatsuki. Nice way to pass the time.

Bleach is sort of getting interesting by each chapter, but this whole plot development doesn't really help much in changing the views of people about the manga.
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What the fucking fuck? Why is Aizen taking a trip over Karakura town no? And dunno why, but the art is really getting shitty, everyone looks alike now... except for their hair, which is always -for some random reason- stylish.

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Yeah I thought Ichi was Hitsugaya when we first saw him this chapter.
And I just read through again: "the one who taught you how to breathe" so telling someone they should be able to breathe constitutes teaching them, comedy at its best, I mean, great plot and great logic, unlike naruto.
Ooooo Bishie Zangetsu's shoes are like Aizen's too :p
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Yeah I thought Ichi was Hitsugaya when we first saw him this chapter.
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought about this.
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suigetsu00 said:
ReaperEXE said:
Fai said:
ReaperEXE said:
I'm a bit disappointed in this chapter. Not by the fact that Tensa Zangetsu looks like Ulquiorra, or any of the other usual bullshit, but rather by how weak and predictable Kubo's trolls are getting. =/



Quoted for obligatory "biased poster is biased" example of this thread 8)


LEarn to use words correctly, kid. This chapter had no trolling, nor trolls.
Quoted for obligatory "LOLfanboy is still a fanboy, regardless of how hard he tries to troll" example of this thread. ( *≖‿≖*)
Hi, kid. I used my words properly, you just need to learn how to read better =(. You are the perfect example of a blind, obsessed Bleach troll fanboy, who eats up every piece of garbage Kubo publishes, claiming it to be intelligent, logical, or consistent. This chapter was a disappointment because it had little-to-no trolls. You read Bleach yet don't understand that everything Kubo publishes in Bleach is a nonsensical troll with a weak plot at best.


just cause he likes it doesnt make him a fanboy.....it's called difference of opinion


He is a fanboy-troll, have you seen him troll Naruto to death, making silly polls and everything. But when it comes to Bleach, its like prefect, and when someone trys to bash Bleach, and point out plot holes and stuff, he get bent out of shape.


lol yeah if that's how you look at it he is hypocritical fanboy.....and dont forget about fma b
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a nice chapter.
glad Isshin and Ichigo had different sword.:P
nice look there tensa zangetsu.:P

I see Aizen's perverted face when he looks at tatsuki.:P
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it was a nice chapter... Ichi-ni really looked like he was hitsu on the second page!
Hope there's a good fite b/w the two( tensa zangetsu and ichi).. And hey its Tatsuki again <3 . Aizen sama, pls dont kill her :P
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So the bankai form of the zanpakutou have a different form from it's shikai? If this is what I think it is, I can expect another filler arc on the anime about another zanpakutou arc concerning their second forms :D

Anyway, this was a really good chapter.

Oh yes another waste of a filler gonna come soon! dang!
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um I dont know .. I would agree its the best chapter in "a long time" but thats like saying this milk is only 5 days expired not 15..



....Aizens new power.. the power of the mullet , it gives him redneck abilities.
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