| Recently I had this post pop up on my Twitter feed: It had Devilman Lady in it, which I've watched quite recently, one of the reasons being that I found it in one of those old /a/ "Before posting here, watch this" charts. That kinda reminded that many of my actions (Which I jokingly called "my dharma" in other threads) are aspiring this ideal of an anime fan from the 2000's and early 2010's, probably because I was very influenced by those types of people when I was getting deeper into anime, so I guess I created "imaginary ones" in my head I'm always seeking approval of, like a child seeks approval from their parents. I guess those are my "ideal fandom". What about you, what's the ideal that guides your anime habits? |
| Interesting that your screencap mentions Noir, that was a really influential anime for me. thewiru said: Pretty much the same for me. The entirety of the way I live is from the 2000s/early 2010s, I don't have social media of any kind and pretty much all of the western media I consume is from then (even some stuff from the 1970s/1980s/1990s), so I guess it's natural that I gravitate toward anime from that era. I also started out with "/a/ watch this before posting" charts and asking for recommendations there.aspiring this ideal of an anime fan from the 2000's and early 2010's I definitely feel like a 2000s otaku who was half a decade late to the party. |
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| yes, my own, I do what I want, idealism is bullshit |
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| The ideal fandom is sexually open-minded. |
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| LOTGH characters inspires me to make decisive approaches very fast without wasting time . One of character literally changed my way of thinking . |
Azulmagia88 said: OP has sever identity issues, so he tries to make up an identity purely based on watching anime and nothing else rather than doing the sensible thing and getting some professional help.What is the purpose of following this ideal fandom you have? [...] I am too lazy to read through your other threads which would probably answer my questions. |
| >like a child seeks approval from their parents It seems like this is the case with a lot of zoomers, they're always looking for approval, and often it feels very "try-hard" to me, like when you see them post pictures of their crt monitor together with their psp and their retro anime and cd collections. It just looks very inauthentic and like they're trying way too hard to play some kind of role or character instead of expressing their own taste. >what's the ideal that guides your anime habits? I like what I like. I don't feel the need to worship some canon of "greatest hits", if I like those shows then great, but if I dislike them I won't pretend otherwise. Also, I don't believe in the idea of "enjoying trash." If I enjoy something, then it's a good anime; anime doesn't have to be deep or profound to be good, and most shows that people say that about aren't all that deep anyways. |
| I strive to distance myself from people who enjoy watching Devilman Lady, or anything else written by Konaka. |
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thewiru said: Recently I had this post pop up on my Twitter feed: It had Devilman Lady in it, which I've watched quite recently, one of the reasons being that I found it in one of those old /a/ "Before posting here, watch this" charts. That kinda reminded that many of my actions (Which I jokingly called "my dharma" in other threads) are aspiring this ideal of an anime fan from the 2000's and early 2010's, probably because I was very influenced by those types of people when I was getting deeper into anime, so I guess I created "imaginary ones" in my head I'm always seeking approval of, like a child seeks approval from their parents. I guess those are my "ideal fandom". What about you, what's the ideal that guides your anime habits? Picture this shit... a fully grown adult strapping on an imaginary backpack stuffed with dusty bootleg tapes, stepping onto a neon-lit street where there is a fucking "GameStop" next to a "Barnes & Noble" circa 2002. Eyes fucking wide, as they gasp in reverent awe of the existence of a "Newtype USA" magazine... stunning illustrations, anime news, a free poster, and a DVD, all for ten bucks. Ten bucks! Meanwhile, the actual kids back then were probably blowing that money on snacks, Tamagotchis, or confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book. lol Also, any "Newtype USA" issues that came with that fucking DVD back then was actually more than 10 bucks (depending on the DVD content those specific issues sold between 12 to 14 USDs). The shit like standard "News Stand" issues without a sample DVD, was actually $9.95. But those illustrations, that kid is so in awe over, were standard, I used to have a few of those issues, even had the "Newtype USA" 2002 issue that came with the long "Najica Blitz Tactics" centerfold poster that was 35x12. The magazine eventually got thrown away but the Najica poster faded so fast it was like someone kept perpetually pouring bleach all over the shit over time. lol Meanwhile our hero of this story... he’s not there for the fucking snacks. No, he’s hunting for shit like the approval of an idealized, long-extinct fandom that likely never even fucking existed. After binge-watching "Devilman Lady", consults charts from old /a/ threads, and whispers his dharma to the ghosts of magazines past, imagining nods of approval from spectral imaginary 2002 anime fans sipping warm Mountain Dew Code Red out of fucking cheap translucent PS2 promo cups handed out when someone actually bought one of those shitty scam GameStop "game magazine subscriptions", solemnly debating OVAs they barely remember while guarding milk crates of scratched DVDs like holy fucking relics. All of this shit in service of impressing an imaginary council of 2002 nerds who, if they were fucking real, would’ve looked up from Adult Swim for half a second and gone “oh fuck”, before going back to arguing about shit like "subs vs dubs" and whether that "Najica" poster from 2002 was mid. lol The only real fucking obstacle? Actually tracking down the shit for these sacred relics... Newtype, Animage, Animedia, Megami Magazine, and maybe even a Voice Actor Magazine, all in fucking pristine condition. It’s like trying to convince a dragon to lend you its treasure hoard because you “understand the true fucking essence of fantasy” while wearing something like a late 90s bargain bin clearance sale of a "Target" brand pleather jacket and air-guitaring on a fucking broomstick. lol In short... The OP is not even fucking chasing a fandom that existed. They are chasing a mental chimera of perceived perfect 2000s anime enthusiasm, armed with nothing but nostalgia, Twitter screenshots, and the ghostly scent of lost nerd spaces. lol But to actually address this shit properly… here’s the fucking thing... people don’t generally chase some abstract idealized fandom. In all my life, I’ve never once met someone who idolized another person’s obsession, fictional or not, the way the OP has described... like it’s some spiritual path, being guided by a cult worshiping some dude who saw God on an LSD trip or an inherited code of conduct when trying to play strip poker with a bunch of slutty gold diggers who are always purposely losing the game to try to get in the pants of a group of rich married men on a business trip. lol So the question you’re asking is kind of like asking someone what their favorite way to enjoy shit like oxygen is. Or asking which historical era of grocery shopping truly guides their moral compass. Most people didn’t wake the fuck up thinking “I must live up to the sacred 2002 Barnes & Noble anime magazine rack”. They just consumed shit because it was there, it was interesting, or it killed time after their fucking school day was over or even killing time before going to work after picking up their overpriced Starbucks Grande Latte enema. lol Turning fucking normal 2002 consumer nostalgia into an aspirational identity is like building a shrine to a Blockbuster membership cards and wondering why no one else is kneeling. You’re not describing an “ideal fandom”... you’re describing a museum exhibit you wish you’d visited at the right age, complete with velvet ropes and imaginary docents nodding approvingly. lol So no, I don’t have an ideal fandom guiding my anime habits. I just watch or collect the shit physically. The rest of this... the ghosts, the approval, the imagined standards... that shit is just all aftermarket mythology. lol |
ColourWheelYesterday, 11:47 AM
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thewiru said:
Recently I had this post pop up on my Twitter feed:
It had Devilman Lady in it, which I've watched quite recently, one of the reasons being that I found it in one of those old /a/ "Before posting here, watch this" charts. That kinda reminded that many of my actions (Which I jokingly called "my dharma" in other threads) are aspiring this ideal of an anime fan from the 2000's and early 2010's, probably because I was very influenced by those types of people when I was getting deeper into anime, so I guess I created "imaginary ones" in my head I'm always seeking approval of, like a child seeks approval from their parents.
I guess those are my "ideal fandom".
What about you, what's the ideal that guides your anime habits?
Recently I had this post pop up on my Twitter feed:
It had Devilman Lady in it, which I've watched quite recently, one of the reasons being that I found it in one of those old /a/ "Before posting here, watch this" charts. That kinda reminded that many of my actions (Which I jokingly called "my dharma" in other threads) are aspiring this ideal of an anime fan from the 2000's and early 2010's, probably because I was very influenced by those types of people when I was getting deeper into anime, so I guess I created "imaginary ones" in my head I'm always seeking approval of, like a child seeks approval from their parents.
I guess those are my "ideal fandom".
What about you, what's the ideal that guides your anime habits?
Picture this shit... a fully grown adult strapping on an imaginary backpack stuffed with dusty bootleg tapes, stepping onto a neon-lit street where there is a fucking "GameStop" next to a "Barnes & Noble" circa 2002. Eyes fucking wide, as they gasp in reverent awe of the existence of a "Newtype USA" magazine... stunning illustrations, anime news, a free poster, and a DVD, all for ten bucks. Ten bucks! Meanwhile, the actual kids back then were probably blowing that money on snacks, Tamagotchis, or confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book. lol
Also, any "Newtype USA" issues that came with that fucking DVD back then was actually more than 10 bucks (depending on the DVD content those specific issues sold between 12 to 14 USDs). The shit like standard "News Stand" issues without a sample DVD, was actually $9.95. But those illustrations, that kid is so in awe over, were standard, I used to have a few of those issues, even had the "Newtype USA" 2002 issue that came with the long "Najica Blitz Tactics" centerfold poster that was 35x12. The magazine eventually got thrown away but the Najica poster faded so fast it was like someone kept perpetually pouring bleach all over the shit over time. lol
Meanwhile our hero of this story... he’s not there for the fucking snacks. No, he’s hunting for shit like the approval of an idealized, long-extinct fandom that likely never even fucking existed. After binge-watching "Devilman Lady", consults charts from old /a/ threads, and whispers his dharma to the ghosts of magazines past, imagining nods of approval from spectral imaginary 2002 anime fans sipping warm Mountain Dew Code Red out of fucking cheap translucent PS2 promo cups handed out when someone actually bought one of those shitty scam GameStop "game magazine subscriptions", solemnly debating OVAs they barely remember while guarding milk crates of scratched DVDs like holy fucking relics. All of this shit in service of impressing an imaginary council of 2002 nerds who, if they were fucking real, would’ve looked up from Adult Swim for half a second and gone “oh fuck”, before going back to arguing about shit like "subs vs dubs" and whether that "Najica" poster from 2002 was mid. lol
The only real fucking obstacle? Actually tracking down the shit for these sacred relics... Newtype, Animage, Animedia, Megami Magazine, and maybe even a Voice Actor Magazine, all in fucking pristine condition. It’s like trying to convince a dragon to lend you its treasure hoard because you “understand the true fucking essence of fantasy” while wearing something like a late 90s bargain bin clearance sale of a "Target" brand pleather jacket and air-guitaring on a fucking broomstick. lol
In short... The OP is not even fucking chasing a fandom that existed. They are chasing a mental chimera of perceived perfect 2000s anime enthusiasm, armed with nothing but nostalgia, Twitter screenshots, and the ghostly scent of lost nerd spaces. lol
But to actually address this shit properly… here’s the fucking thing... people don’t generally chase some abstract idealized fandom. In all my life, I’ve never once met someone who idolized another person’s obsession, fictional or not, the way the OP has described... like it’s some spiritual path, being guided by a cult worshiping some dude who saw God on an LSD trip or an inherited code of conduct when trying to play strip poker with a bunch of slutty gold diggers who are always purposely losing the game to try to get in the pants of a group of rich married men on a business trip. lol
So the question you’re asking is kind of like asking someone what their favorite way to enjoy shit like oxygen is. Or asking which historical era of grocery shopping truly guides their moral compass. Most people didn’t wake the fuck up thinking “I must live up to the sacred 2002 Barnes & Noble anime magazine rack”. They just consumed shit because it was there, it was interesting, or it killed time after their fucking school day was over or even killing time before going to work after picking up their overpriced Starbucks Grande Latte enema. lol
Turning fucking normal 2002 consumer nostalgia into an aspirational identity is like building a shrine to a Blockbuster membership cards and wondering why no one else is kneeling. You’re not describing an “ideal fandom”... you’re describing a museum exhibit you wish you’d visited at the right age, complete with velvet ropes and imaginary docents nodding approvingly. lol
So no, I don’t have an ideal fandom guiding my anime habits. I just watch or collect the shit physically. The rest of this... the ghosts, the approval, the imagined standards... that shit is just all aftermarket mythology. lol
ColourWheel said: confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book. That's the easiest game in the entire Final Fantasy series. |
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Lucifrost said: ColourWheel said: confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book. That's the easiest game in the entire Final Fantasy series. Never actually fucking played Final Fantasy X, But remember kids back then that had never played an FF game before struggling even with FFX, either because they weren't used to the typical FF game mechanics, or never even fucking played an RPG before. lol The only Final Fantasy games I ever played were Final Fantasy VII on the 1st PlayStation, Then buying one of the only games that ever used the "sold separately" PS2 HDD and ethernet adaptor, which was Final Fantasy XI. I also played Final Fantasy XIII on xbox 360 in the late 2000s. But fucking circling back to FFXI... At the time it was the 1st ever PS2 game which was an MMO that was packaged in almost a bigger fucking box than the actual fucking system to play the shit on. Took fucking hours just to set the shit up through the PlayOnline digital bureaucracy, even just to get to an actual character creation screen and to actually set foot in the actual game. The way that shit was set up was so overtly complicated, and took way too much time, I actually unplugged my the shit from my TV and watched a full 2 hour film. Only after the film was over the shit was still fucking updating with patches. I didn't actually get to fucking play the new game I bought until after a full 4 hours later. Fucking filling out digital forms using a controller, agreeing to multiple policies, fully setting up a PlayOnline Account, and hours of updating and patching... Just for the shit to accept my credit card info alone it fucking took about 15 minutes for that shit to finally accept. I was almost ready at the time to give that shit up completely and return it to the store... but once actually getting into the game, if someone didn't have the fucking patients to get through the initial BS, they would have likely gone insane once actually finding out later how the game play was set up. Where this shit would take anyone even up to a year sometimes, to play the shit every day, to even accomplish a single endgame goal. lol Which is why I never really played an another MMO ever fucking again like it. lol The only plus side was after actually achieving one goal, I personally set out for myself within the game, I actually managed to sell my account for 10,000 USDs. It's because I ended up getting this weapon called a "Kraken Club". Where only about 6 other Users on the entire server i was playing on actually owned one. People really wanted that fucker that bad because the drop rate was ~0.1% (or fucking lower). It was an item that if someone ever let them borrow it, the chances of them getting it back would almost be zero. lol |
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Lucifrost said:
That's the easiest game in the entire Final Fantasy series.
ColourWheel said:
confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book.
confusingly trying to beat Final Fantasy X without a fucking guide book.
That's the easiest game in the entire Final Fantasy series.
Never actually fucking played Final Fantasy X, But remember kids back then that had never played an FF game before struggling even with FFX, either because they weren't used to the typical FF game mechanics, or never even fucking played an RPG before. lol
The only Final Fantasy games I ever played were Final Fantasy VII on the 1st PlayStation, Then buying one of the only games that ever used the "sold separately" PS2 HDD and ethernet adaptor, which was Final Fantasy XI. I also played Final Fantasy XIII on xbox 360 in the late 2000s.
But fucking circling back to FFXI... At the time it was the 1st ever PS2 game which was an MMO that was packaged in almost a bigger fucking box than the actual fucking system to play the shit on. Took fucking hours just to set the shit up through the PlayOnline digital bureaucracy, even just to get to an actual character creation screen and to actually set foot in the actual game.
The way that shit was set up was so overtly complicated, and took way too much time, I actually unplugged my the shit from my TV and watched a full 2 hour film. Only after the film was over the shit was still fucking updating with patches. I didn't actually get to fucking play the new game I bought until after a full 4 hours later.
Fucking filling out digital forms using a controller, agreeing to multiple policies, fully setting up a PlayOnline Account, and hours of updating and patching... Just for the shit to accept my credit card info alone it fucking took about 15 minutes for that shit to finally accept. I was almost ready at the time to give that shit up completely and return it to the store... but once actually getting into the game, if someone didn't have the fucking patients to get through the initial BS, they would have likely gone insane once actually finding out later how the game play was set up. Where this shit would take anyone even up to a year sometimes, to play the shit every day, to even accomplish a single endgame goal. lol
Which is why I never really played an another MMO ever fucking again like it. lol
The only plus side was after actually achieving one goal, I personally set out for myself within the game, I actually managed to sell my account for 10,000 USDs. It's because I ended up getting this weapon called a "Kraken Club". Where only about 6 other Users on the entire server i was playing on actually owned one. People really wanted that fucker that bad because the drop rate was ~0.1% (or fucking lower). It was an item that if someone ever let them borrow it, the chances of them getting it back would almost be zero. lol
ColourWheel said: Never actually fucking played Final Fantasy X, But remember kids back then that had never played an FF game before struggling even with FFX, either because they weren't used to the typical FF game mechanics, or never even fucking played an RPG before. lol Final Fantasy X couldn't have been anyone's 1st RPG. Pokemon predates it and is far more popular. |
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@Lucifrost Mine was Pokemon Ruby (Gen 3). But you underestimate how big FFVII was, everyone knew about it in the 00s and by proxy the rest of them. FF even had that 2001 movie that was pretty hyped.
| @Battleheart Not even FFVII was as big as Pokemon, but that's irrelevant since we were not discussing that game. |
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Lucifrost said: Final Fantasy X couldn't have been anyone's 1st RPG. Pokemon predates it and is far more popular. Regardless what your saying, this shit doesn't matter what game predates what. Comparing fucking Pokemon to Final Fantasy is like trying to fuck a mattress and calling it a date with Scarlett Johansson... one’s soft, easy, designed for even a grade school kid to hump... the other actually requires attention, actual 'got game', and a little finesse to actually get into the sack. Like a teen brat trying to get into the pants of their 1st girlfriend. lol This talking about a time when a fucking grade schooler couldn't grasp how someone like me, could beat the original 8-bit Super Mario bros. on a Gameboy Advanced without dying once in less than 15 minutes without even really trying to avoid death. lol During one winter of 2001, I was working a part time job at an EB games for a few weeks. That FFX fucking guide book was one of the top selling guide books that I sold at the time and kids were literally struggling to even play that shit back then without it. lol Your personal skill level isn't very reflective of the masses who probably didn't have the experiences you had. lol |
ColourWheelYesterday, 1:58 PM
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Lucifrost said:
Final Fantasy X couldn't have been anyone's 1st RPG. Pokemon predates it and is far more popular.
Final Fantasy X couldn't have been anyone's 1st RPG. Pokemon predates it and is far more popular.
Regardless what your saying, this shit doesn't matter what game predates what. Comparing fucking Pokemon to Final Fantasy is like trying to fuck a mattress and calling it a date with Scarlett Johansson... one’s soft, easy, designed for even a grade school kid to hump... the other actually requires attention, actual 'got game', and a little finesse to actually get into the sack. Like a teen brat trying to get into the pants of their 1st girlfriend. lol
This talking about a time when a fucking grade schooler couldn't grasp how someone like me, could beat the original 8-bit Super Mario bros. on a Gameboy Advanced without dying once in less than 15 minutes without even really trying to avoid death. lol
During one winter of 2001, I was working a part time job at an EB games for a few weeks. That FFX fucking guide book was one of the top selling guide books that I sold at the time and kids were literally struggling to even play that shit back then without it. lol
Your personal skill level isn't very reflective of the masses who probably didn't have the experiences you had. lol
ColourWheel said: During one winter of 2001, I was working a part time job at an EB games for a few weeks. That FFX fucking guide book was one of the top selling guide books that I sold at the time and kids were literally struggling to even play that shit back then without that shit. lol That just means it was a popular game. I used to buy guides for everything I played, even if it was a game I'd already beaten. Or more likely, people needed help getting all the best weapons. That stuff is cryptic, but not even remotely necessary for seeing the story through to the end. |
LucifrostYesterday, 2:09 PM
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It's makes the shit more entertaining to read I found. lol And as long as you get a good fucking laugh at my writing style on here, the shit is all good. lol Lucifrost said: That just means it was a popular game. I used to buy guides for everything I played, even if it was a game I'd already beaten. This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it. To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used. Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol |
ColourWheelYesterday, 2:22 PM
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It's makes the shit more entertaining to read I found. lol
And as long as you get a good fucking laugh at my writing style on here, the shit is all good. lol
Lucifrost said:
That just means it was a popular game. I used to buy guides for everything I played, even if it was a game I'd already beaten.
That just means it was a popular game. I used to buy guides for everything I played, even if it was a game I'd already beaten.
This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it.
To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used.
Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol
ColourWheel said: This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it. To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used. Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol Those people were just bad at gaming in general, not that game specifically. Even so, I edited my previous post to include an explanation as to why someone would need a guide for a game as easy as FFX. |
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Lucifrost said: ColourWheel said: This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it. To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used. Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol Those people were just bad at gaming in general, not that game specifically. Even so, I edited my previous post to include an explanation as to why someone would need a guide for a game as easy as FFX. Lucifrost, you’ve turned this shit into a full-blown gymnastics routine... first FFX is "the easiest FF ever, so nobody should need a guide", then it’s "people who bought guides were just bad at gaming in general", and now it’s "okay, maybe they needed a guide for cryptic side stuff, but not the main story". That’s like watching someone insist a fucking tornado is just a light fan breeze, then argue that anyone who got knocked over by it is weak, and finally say, "well, I guess the mailbox might have gotten hit, but that shit is just optional". lol Lets illustrate this shit like slapping paint on a nude woman against a canvas then calling it modern art... kids weren’t casually flipping pages to admire artwork. They were wading through the swamp of the Sphere Grid with no compass, dodging boss attacks like they were in a kung-fu movie where the floor is lava and every enemy is a chainsaw-wielding octopus. These were fucking kids... they needed the guides to survive the main story, not just to figure out where the secret bunny with fucking sword was hiding. lol And those guides coming back during the last week of winter break? Again, That shit wasn't a pristine collector’s items. They were battered, dog-eared, scribbled in, pages folded like origami, and yes, theoretically assaulted by bodily fluids out of pure fucking frustration. Even shit like notes written inside explaining how to get pass crap they were struggling with. Some of them looked like someone had thrown them through a hurricane while the shit was on fire. Kids weren’t bad at gaming... they were new recruits thrown into an RPG gladiator arena and handed a tattered scroll for survival. lol You can hop from "easy game" -> "bad players" -> "just side content" as much as you want, but the evidence doesn’t move. The worn guides, the mountain of returns, the sheer desperation of first-time RPG players... that shit was reality in real time. Your personal breezing-through-the-game superpower doesn’t change the fact that average players were surviving FFX like hobbits crossing Mordor, and those guides were the only way they didn’t get eaten by a Nazgul on fucking turn three. lol So go ahead, shift the goalposts all you like... "easy", "bad", "optional"... but the tattered pages, the snow-break store returns, and the scent of desperate teenage sweat in those books? That’s the scoreboard, and it reads... Those fucking kids needed those guide books, like a cock instinctively wants pussy when the shit randomly gets hard, looking at their crush when she is sitting down with her legs barely crossed in a tight mini-skirt. lol |
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Lucifrost said:
Those people were just bad at gaming in general, not that game specifically. Even so, I edited my previous post to include an explanation as to why someone would need a guide for a game as easy as FFX.
ColourWheel said:
This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it.
To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used.
Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol
This is still under an assumption. Typically kids don't go out of their fucking way to buy an over priced shitty guide book for a game, unless they really needed it.
To further explain how I know kids were actually using the shit, during the last week of the winter break, kids were bring that shit in for store credit after beating the game, and those books actually looked like they were really fucking used.
Since the shit was selling like coke to crackheads, we made the exception to give store credit for those fuckers even if it was only for a single dollar, no matter the condition they were in, even if someone fucking theoretically jizzed all over the cover at one point. lol
Those people were just bad at gaming in general, not that game specifically. Even so, I edited my previous post to include an explanation as to why someone would need a guide for a game as easy as FFX.
Lucifrost, you’ve turned this shit into a full-blown gymnastics routine... first FFX is "the easiest FF ever, so nobody should need a guide", then it’s "people who bought guides were just bad at gaming in general", and now it’s "okay, maybe they needed a guide for cryptic side stuff, but not the main story". That’s like watching someone insist a fucking tornado is just a light fan breeze, then argue that anyone who got knocked over by it is weak, and finally say, "well, I guess the mailbox might have gotten hit, but that shit is just optional". lol
Lets illustrate this shit like slapping paint on a nude woman against a canvas then calling it modern art... kids weren’t casually flipping pages to admire artwork. They were wading through the swamp of the Sphere Grid with no compass, dodging boss attacks like they were in a kung-fu movie where the floor is lava and every enemy is a chainsaw-wielding octopus. These were fucking kids... they needed the guides to survive the main story, not just to figure out where the secret bunny with fucking sword was hiding. lol
And those guides coming back during the last week of winter break? Again, That shit wasn't a pristine collector’s items. They were battered, dog-eared, scribbled in, pages folded like origami, and yes, theoretically assaulted by bodily fluids out of pure fucking frustration. Even shit like notes written inside explaining how to get pass crap they were struggling with. Some of them looked like someone had thrown them through a hurricane while the shit was on fire. Kids weren’t bad at gaming... they were new recruits thrown into an RPG gladiator arena and handed a tattered scroll for survival. lol
You can hop from "easy game" -> "bad players" -> "just side content" as much as you want, but the evidence doesn’t move. The worn guides, the mountain of returns, the sheer desperation of first-time RPG players... that shit was reality in real time. Your personal breezing-through-the-game superpower doesn’t change the fact that average players were surviving FFX like hobbits crossing Mordor, and those guides were the only way they didn’t get eaten by a Nazgul on fucking turn three. lol
So go ahead, shift the goalposts all you like... "easy", "bad", "optional"... but the tattered pages, the snow-break store returns, and the scent of desperate teenage sweat in those books? That’s the scoreboard, and it reads... Those fucking kids needed those guide books, like a cock instinctively wants pussy when the shit randomly gets hard, looking at their crush when she is sitting down with her legs barely crossed in a tight mini-skirt. lol
ColourWheel said: the sheer desperation of first-time RPG players I've already told you that they wouldn't have been new to RPGs. |
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Lucifrost said: I've already told you that they wouldn't have been new to RPGs. Ah, I see we’ve officially entered the "pulling excuses out of the ether" stage. "They wouldn’t have been new to RPGs" is fucking hilarious, because that’s the first time you’ve even mentioned this shit. lol But fine, not going to keep arguing with someone constantly moving the goalposts this much. lol Sure, if they wouldn’t have been new to RPGs, then yeah, they’re all fucking superfreak gamers who apparently need no handholding. lol |
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ColourWheel said:
Never actually fucking played Final Fantasy X, But remember kids back then that had never played an FF game before struggling even with FFX, either because they weren't used to the typical FF game mechanics, or never even fucking played an RPG before. lol
Never actually fucking played Final Fantasy X, But remember kids back then that had never played an FF game before struggling even with FFX, either because they weren't used to the typical FF game mechanics, or never even fucking played an RPG before. lol
Final Fantasy X couldn't have been anyone's 1st RPG. Pokemon predates it and is far more popular.
| @Lucifrost I mean, I'm a 90s baby and my first RPG was Golden Sun: The Lost Age, which came out like a year after FFX. So the idea doesn't seem far-fetched to me at all. Sure, Pokémon was undoubtedly more popular, but that doesn't mean that every single kid at the time was that into the franchise that they were all playing the games. Me, personally? I liked the anime quite a bit back then, but I've never touched a single Pokémon videogame, nor even bought a single trading card pack 'cause, well... I just wasn't that big a fan, and the gameplay didn't really seem appealing to me. |
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Orororurando said:
my first RPG was Golden Sun: The Lost Age
my first RPG was Golden Sun: The Lost Age
lol damn, skipped right to Felix's story, too.
| @valico Lol yeah, I basically started playing it just 'cause a friend at school showed me some of the summon animations, and I thought the graphics were so sick I asked him to lend it to me for a while. Needless to say, I was very confused by the plot until I learned waaay later that this was actually Part 2, haha. I did eventually get a copy of Golden Sun 1 tho, then continued with Lost Age and everything finally made sense lol. 10/10 games, btw. |
| No because I don't care to put pressure on myself to live up to an "ideal" that has no relevance to any other part of my life and I don't need validation from liking what other people do, nor would you be able to create one that isn't predicated on the influence of others. Although it is nice to find things in common. Zarutaku said: The ideal fandom is sexually open-minded. Based valico said: I just want to watch anime. I don't base my show selection or viewing habits on any idealized guidelines, real or imagined. I watch what I find interesting or fun, and watch in a way that promotes the continuation of my viewing of my selected shows. There are too many actually important things going on in my life for me to be preoccupied with something so trivial. SenaBestGirl said: I like what I like. I don't feel the need to worship some canon of "greatest hits", if I like those shows then great, but if I dislike them I won't pretend otherwise. Basically this. SenaBestGirl said: Also, I don't believe in the idea of "enjoying trash." If I enjoy something, then it's a good anime; anime doesn't have to be deep or profound to be good, and most shows that people say that about aren't all that deep anyways. I think you can acknowledge that something is badly written, badly animated, etc while still enjoying it. It's "trash" in more of an objective sense but subjectively that isn't relevant/important. |
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