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Sep 6, 7:12 AM
#1
Somehow, hitchhiking seems to be something of the past? Hitchhikers were a recurrent sight when I was a kid, but I haven't seen any in years. I wonder why (maybe the omnipresence of smartphones along with ridesharing apps like Uber has something to do with it). Personally, getting into a total stranger's car was never something I was inclined to do… and I never let any hitchhiker into my car either (not that I even had the opportunity to do so). In fact, my only experiences with hitchhikers were when I was a kid and my father taunted them by slowing down to give them hope, only to accelerate as they approached his car… I hated it every single time, and my complaints were pretty much useless since he was too busy laughing about it all. But anyway, what are your experiences with hitchhiking? Have you ever done it, or taken a hitchhiker along with you? |
Sep 6, 7:19 AM
#2
I hitch-hiked all Europe and Russia, I know how hard it is sometimes and always stop when someone needs help. I guess I would let even a total bum in, without any hesitation. Not a matter of virtue signalling or doing good, I just walked in their shoes and can relate. They better look for a better company though, haha. |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Sep 6, 7:21 AM
#3
I've done both. Coolest memory was sexy mommy hitting on me when I was in my 20s Weirdest memory was picking up a dude at 1 am who started telling me he just got out of prison and had been thrown out of his home by his wife. |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Sep 6, 7:25 AM
#4
In fact, my only experiences with hitchhikers were when I was a kid and my father taunted them by slowing down to give them hope, only to accelerate as they approached his car… I hated it every single time, and my complaints were pretty much useless since he was too busy laughing about it all. Not the smartest move NGL. I've hitchhiked at night a lot and always kept a big stone in my pocket for self-defense AND to throw at "funny" pranksters lmao |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Sep 6, 7:37 AM
#5
I love hitch hiking, just not in Czechia. Its super easy in the Balkans. Its a shame its so rare in Czechia now, my dad always taught me to pick up hitch hikers but almost no one does it here anymore. But maybe its because we have such a good transport system, I probably wouldnt do hitch hiking at all if all countries had cheap buses and trains everywhere like we do. |
Sep 6, 7:38 AM
#6
*Holds out my thumbs and a sign that says "Will clean your boots for a free ride"* |
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Sep 6, 9:57 AM
#7
No and no, although I might take a hitchhiker if I wouldn't be alone with them, but I have never seen one while driving. |
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Sep 6, 3:59 PM
#8
Reply to LoveYourSmile
I hitch-hiked all Europe and Russia, I know how hard it is sometimes and always stop when someone needs help. I guess I would let even a total bum in, without any hesitation. Not a matter of virtue signalling or doing good, I just walked in their shoes and can relate. They better look for a better company though, haha.
LoveYourSmile said: All of Russia? You can't possibly have reached Vladivostok by hitchhiking, right?I hitch-hiked all Europe and Russia |
Sep 6, 4:00 PM
#9
Reply to Deathko
In fact, my only experiences with hitchhikers were when I was a kid and my father taunted them by slowing down to give them hope, only to accelerate as they approached his car… I hated it every single time, and my complaints were pretty much useless since he was too busy laughing about it all.
Not the smartest move NGL. I've hitchhiked at night a lot and always kept a big stone in my pocket for self-defense AND to throw at "funny" pranksters lmao
@Deathko Let's just say it wouldn't have been a smart move... but from the hitchhikers. I fear what my father could have done if someone threw anything at his car. He always had anger issues (and was a bit of an asshole, if it wasn't already obvious). But I take it you never actually used the rock? |
Sep 6, 4:12 PM
#10
Total stranger, never. Someone from the same college, or that was in the same party/event, yes. There is an app for free ride-sharing here too, it makes things a little bit safer. My cousin friend was stabbed when they were 4 in a car one night, and it is dangerous for woman to ride even with taxi drivers alone, imagine random with a car. |
Sep 6, 4:21 PM
#11
Reply to fleurbleue
LoveYourSmile said:
I hitch-hiked all Europe and Russia
All of Russia? You can't possibly have reached Vladivostok by hitchhiking, right?I hitch-hiked all Europe and Russia
@fleurbleue Not really ofc. I have only done 4 hitchhiking trips from Moscow: to Arkhangelsk, Crimea, Grozny and Chelyabinsk. But I think that was quite enough, haha. Going all the way east is possible in summer, I guess. There is a major highway, and when I was fishing on rivers like the Anadyr, Kolyma, Indigirka and Yana, we traveled along it without much trouble. In winter though, hitchhiking out there would basically be suicide - you simply freeze waiting for a truck amid nowhere. And it's not a short waiting lol. |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Sep 6, 4:21 PM
#12
Reply to fleurbleue
@Deathko Let's just say it wouldn't have been a smart move... but from the hitchhikers. I fear what my father could have done if someone threw anything at his car. He always had anger issues (and was a bit of an asshole, if it wasn't already obvious). But I take it you never actually used the rock?
@fleurbleue Oh, I've thrown that stone once, at a car full of 4 young men who did the joke TWICE, while insulting me. But I'm terrible at throwing, and hitting a car that's driving away is hard af U_U I had some anger issues too, which I've sorted out a long time ago. |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Sep 6, 4:36 PM
#13
Reply to Sasori56483
Total stranger, never. Someone from the same college, or that was in the same party/event, yes. There is an app for free ride-sharing here too, it makes things a little bit safer.
My cousin friend was stabbed when they were 4 in a car one night, and it is dangerous for woman to ride even with taxi drivers alone, imagine random with a car.
My cousin friend was stabbed when they were 4 in a car one night, and it is dangerous for woman to ride even with taxi drivers alone, imagine random with a car.
@Sasori56483 same, I've never hitch hiked but I have picked up collegues/classmates walking/riding to work/school. |
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Sep 6, 5:02 PM
#14
I like it when the people I hitchhiked from don't struggle, when they take the lead pipe without knowing what hit them and don't resist when they're chained to the radiator next to the prostitute carcasses and the "free candy" kids. (Joke answer, I've never hitchhiked or picked them up.) |
Sep 6, 8:05 PM
#15
Reply to LoveYourSmile
@fleurbleue Not really ofc. I have only done 4 hitchhiking trips from Moscow: to Arkhangelsk, Crimea, Grozny and Chelyabinsk. But I think that was quite enough, haha.
Going all the way east is possible in summer, I guess. There is a major highway, and when I was fishing on rivers like the Anadyr, Kolyma, Indigirka and Yana, we traveled along it without much trouble. In winter though, hitchhiking out there would basically be suicide - you simply freeze waiting for a truck amid nowhere. And it's not a short waiting lol.
Going all the way east is possible in summer, I guess. There is a major highway, and when I was fishing on rivers like the Anadyr, Kolyma, Indigirka and Yana, we traveled along it without much trouble. In winter though, hitchhiking out there would basically be suicide - you simply freeze waiting for a truck amid nowhere. And it's not a short waiting lol.
LoveYourSmile said: And then after a whole day of waiting, the truck passes you by all while splattering you with dirty slush. Well, there are worse ways to die than hypothermia, so I guess it's not all bad (I wonder if they ever find corpses along the road as the snow melts in spring).In winter though, hitchhiking out there would basically be suicide - you simply freeze waiting for a truck amid nowhere. And it's not a short waiting lol. |
Sep 6, 8:05 PM
#16
Reply to Deathko
@fleurbleue Oh, I've thrown that stone once, at a car full of 4 young men who did the joke TWICE, while insulting me. But I'm terrible at throwing, and hitting a car that's driving away is hard af U_U I had some anger issues too, which I've sorted out a long time ago.
Deathko said: My gosh, you're one of the most chill users around, I can't picture you being angry at all (let alone being a mad rock thrower). I had some anger issues too, which I've sorted out a long time ago. |
Sep 6, 10:28 PM
#17
I picked up someone once, it was a very interesting time..it was weird at first but they ended up luckily being pretty chill |
Sep 6, 10:31 PM
#18
Never taken a hitchhiker, (bc I literally can't drive yet) And uhh idk if this counts as hitchhiking, but I basically have like this really close family friend right? And sometimes they'll be with their parents driving down this one road while I'm walking to school and they'll just pick me up and drop me off at school, which I'm honestly really grateful for ESPECIALLY during these dang canadian winters 😭😭😭 |
Sep 6, 11:15 PM
#19
fleurbleue said: I wonder if they ever find corpses along the road as the snow melts in spring They will find you ofc - unless the beasts get to you first. Or people... Out there the wilderness brims with jails, and escaped convicts aren't just folklore, haha. But seriously, I have thought it over, and I'm convinced: even in winter it's perfectly possible to hitch a ride. A little riskier, sure - not in the sense of failure likelihood, but in the sense the price you pay for mistakes - not a bad math, I mean. When you travel that far by hitchhiking, you will be stopping for the night anyway, here and there along the way. First off, picture a truck cabin in winter: sweltering hot, stifling with smoke, thick with the smell of unwashed socks and farts. Sleep doesn't come easy in that stew. Second, the Siberians probably don't even do long-haul trucking the way we imagine. They think differently: why drive a load two or three days down icy roads when you can just throw it on the railway? Chances are, real truck stops barely exist in the way we know them. A local driver will just push through in one go, roll into town, park at the receiver's lot, unload, then head off for dinner, a banya, and a bed. That's the whole story. Third, you'll want the experience itself, not just the ride, lol. So your rhythm will be: arrive, wrangle a night's shelter in a village hut, then in the morning wander into a roadside café at the gas station to seek your luck again. With any charm at all, the lady of the house who put you up might even line up your next ride through her neighbors - if you repay her kindness with, um, warmth, haha. So no, you won't just be standing by the highway, thumbing for a lift. That's not how it works out there, I think. And damn - writing this out, it sounds so alluring that I feel like packing up and setting out myself, right now... |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Yesterday, 6:30 AM
#20
I have hitchhiked before because I got offered into it. So far so good, they were nice albeit there was a time when the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable. |
(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
Yesterday, 7:11 AM
#21
Reply to LoveYourSmile
fleurbleue said:
I wonder if they ever find corpses along the road as the snow melts in spring
I wonder if they ever find corpses along the road as the snow melts in spring
They will find you ofc - unless the beasts get to you first. Or people... Out there the wilderness brims with jails, and escaped convicts aren't just folklore, haha.
But seriously, I have thought it over, and I'm convinced: even in winter it's perfectly possible to hitch a ride. A little riskier, sure - not in the sense of failure likelihood, but in the sense the price you pay for mistakes - not a bad math, I mean.
When you travel that far by hitchhiking, you will be stopping for the night anyway, here and there along the way.
First off, picture a truck cabin in winter: sweltering hot, stifling with smoke, thick with the smell of unwashed socks and farts. Sleep doesn't come easy in that stew.
Second, the Siberians probably don't even do long-haul trucking the way we imagine. They think differently: why drive a load two or three days down icy roads when you can just throw it on the railway? Chances are, real truck stops barely exist in the way we know them.
A local driver will just push through in one go, roll into town, park at the receiver's lot, unload, then head off for dinner, a banya, and a bed. That's the whole story.
Third, you'll want the experience itself, not just the ride, lol.
So your rhythm will be: arrive, wrangle a night's shelter in a village hut, then in the morning wander into a roadside café at the gas station to seek your luck again. With any charm at all, the lady of the house who put you up might even line up your next ride through her neighbors - if you repay her kindness with, um, warmth, haha.
So no, you won't just be standing by the highway, thumbing for a lift. That's not how it works out there, I think.
And damn - writing this out, it sounds so alluring that I feel like packing up and setting out myself, right now...
LoveYourSmile said: Well, if you ever disappear from MAL, I'll assume that's what's going on. Not that we would be worried or anything, you probably have enough experience for it (I'd be more alarmed about them kidnapping you and sending you to the Ukrainian front line). And damn - writing this out, it sounds so alluring that I feel like packing up and setting out myself, right now... |
Yesterday, 7:17 AM
#22
Reply to Rinrinka
I have hitchhiked before because I got offered into it.
So far so good, they were nice albeit there was a time when the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable.
So far so good, they were nice albeit there was a time when the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable.
Rinrinka said: What are you doing!? That's the step just before they take a weird detour down some remote back road!! You gotta be more cautious than that. 😭the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable. |
Yesterday, 7:38 AM
#23
Reply to fleurbleue
Rinrinka said:
the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable.
What are you doing!? That's the step just before they take a weird detour down some remote back road!! You gotta be more cautious than that. 😭the driver kept staring at me for some reason, made me a bit uncomfortable.
@fleurbleue I'd like to tell everyone who offers me a "ride" at night to go find a different rape victim at least I would if I didn't fear immediate physical retaliation |
Yesterday, 7:51 AM
#24
Reply to fleurbleue
Deathko said:
I had some anger issues too, which I've sorted out a long time ago.
My gosh, you're one of the most chill users around, I can't picture you being angry at all (let alone being a mad rock thrower). I had some anger issues too, which I've sorted out a long time ago.
@fleurbleue I mean, chances are if someone who is normally chilled gets angry it would be a tempest. As per this quote: |
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Yesterday, 8:13 AM
#25
@fleurbleue Just like true courage isn't the absence of fear, but the ability to overcome one's fear, true chillness isn't the absence of turmoils, but the ability to overcome one's turmoils 🧘 @PeripheralVision Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication. My employer likes to push his employees buttons, and they often snap, putting themselves in a defavorable position. Last time he tried this with me, I just told him "cool, prepare my paycheck, I'm coming to get it tomorrow" and closed the phone. He's treating me like I'm a bottle of nitroglycerin since that day lmao. It helps to recognize when you're in a advantageous position in a relation. If the other party has more to lose than you do, there's really no need to get angry. |
DeathkoYesterday, 8:20 AM
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Yesterday, 8:20 AM
#26
Reply to Deathko
@fleurbleue Just like true courage isn't the absence of fear, but the ability to overcome one's fear, true chillness isn't the absence of turmoils, but the ability to overcome one's turmoils 🧘
@PeripheralVision Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication. My employer likes to push his employees buttons, and they often snap, putting themselves in a defavorable position. Last time he tried this with me, I just told him "cool, prepare my paycheck, I'm coming to get it tomorrow" and closed the phone. He's treating me like I'm a bottle of nitroglycerin since that day lmao.
It helps to recognize when you're in a advantageous position in a relation. If the other party has more to lose than you do, there's really no need to get angry.
@PeripheralVision Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication. My employer likes to push his employees buttons, and they often snap, putting themselves in a defavorable position. Last time he tried this with me, I just told him "cool, prepare my paycheck, I'm coming to get it tomorrow" and closed the phone. He's treating me like I'm a bottle of nitroglycerin since that day lmao.
It helps to recognize when you're in a advantageous position in a relation. If the other party has more to lose than you do, there's really no need to get angry.
Deathko said: Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication. Honestly, the worst thing about being @PeripheralVision is that I can make people angry without meaning to. There is something in my countenance, my demeanor, that makes people want to hit me in various ways. |
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Yesterday, 8:22 AM
#27
Reply to PeripheralVision
Deathko said:
Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication.
Honestly, making me angry nowadays would require some crazy amount of dedication.
Honestly, the worst thing about being @PeripheralVision is that I can make people angry without meaning to. There is something in my countenance, my demeanor, that makes people want to hit me in various ways.
@PeripheralVision If you're talking about cute MALgirls, I really wonder what in your behaviour makes them want to step all over you 😏 |
Prophetess of the Golden Era |
Yesterday, 10:05 AM
#28
I have not done such a think, and have been advised against doing so. |
Yesterday, 10:49 AM
#29
Reply to fleurbleue
LoveYourSmile said:
And damn - writing this out, it sounds so alluring that I feel like packing up and setting out myself, right now...
Well, if you ever disappear from MAL, I'll assume that's what's going on. Not that we would be worried or anything, you probably have enough experience for it (I'd be more alarmed about them kidnapping you and sending you to the Ukrainian front line). And damn - writing this out, it sounds so alluring that I feel like packing up and setting out myself, right now...
@fleurbleue Doubt they are so desperate to kidnap foreign citizens, haha. You watch some weird news channel. But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure. |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Yesterday, 10:56 AM
#30
Reply to LoveYourSmile
@fleurbleue Doubt they are so desperate to kidnap foreign citizens, haha. You watch some weird news channel.
But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure.
But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure.
@LoveYourSmile Whoa, you helping out with the earthquake or somethin’? |
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Yesterday, 11:34 AM
#31
Reply to LoveYourSmile
@fleurbleue Doubt they are so desperate to kidnap foreign citizens, haha. You watch some weird news channel.
But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure.
But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure.
LoveYourSmile said: You're a man so I guess you will be fine so long as you don't burn a Quran or something. But look, I'm planning a trip to Afghanistan this Autumn. That could be kinda Russian roulette for sure. |
fleurbleueYesterday, 12:36 PM
Yesterday, 2:15 PM
#32
Your father did that...? Uhhh...that's...hmmm... Anyways, I don't trust hitchhikers. And the bus serves travelers where I live, so I'm alright. |
MY NAME IS POTATO. NICE TO MEET YOU. |
Yesterday, 2:37 PM
#33
Reply to LabMemberX
Your father did that...?
Uhhh...that's...hmmm...
Anyways, I don't trust hitchhikers. And the bus serves travelers where I live, so I'm alright.
Uhhh...that's...hmmm...
Anyways, I don't trust hitchhikers. And the bus serves travelers where I live, so I'm alright.
LabMemberX said: You can finish your sentence. Don't worry, I won't mind. Uhhh...that's...hmmm... |
Yesterday, 3:50 PM
#34
Reply to fleurbleue
LabMemberX said:
Uhhh...that's...hmmm...
You can finish your sentence. Don't worry, I won't mind. Uhhh...that's...hmmm...
@fleurbleue Nah, I shouldn't. >____< |
MY NAME IS POTATO. NICE TO MEET YOU. |
Yesterday, 5:22 PM
#35
No thankfully I have never had to do either. My car is always worked and during moments when I've had car trouble I've always been able to call a friend or family member to come pick me up. As for picking up hitchhikers, no way! I get people wanting me to pick them up all the time when I'm in the catering truck, but I never stop. Can't trust anybody these days and you never know who might be carrying a gun or weapon. |
Yesterday, 8:55 PM
#36
PeripheralVision said: Whoa, you helping out with the earthquake or somethin’? Oh, damn, I guess I let something slip, haha. It's not exactly me helping, but yeah, kind of. And I have wanted to visit them for a long time: the country is beautiful, the people are welcoming. Talibs are not that bad guys, to be honest, they want peace, order and prosperity for their nation, which is not a bad start, I have hopes for them. fleurbleue said: You're a man so I guess you will be fine so long as you don't burn a Quran or something. Unironically, women are more safe, noone targets them. Inconvenient - yes: talibs wouldn't talk to another man's woman, not even speaking of touching her. But the problem is, they have to communicate, to explain rules and all that. Which brings us to a very unpleasant cognitive dissonance that may resolve in a quirky way. So, girls can't travel alone, they need a man as their communication interface. But men are definitely less safe: make a mistake, it's the man who will pay for it. If you think of it, that's some extreme femdom, haha. |
LoveYourSmileYesterday, 9:07 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Yesterday, 9:08 PM
#37
Reply to LoveYourSmile
PeripheralVision said:
Whoa, you helping out with the earthquake or somethin’?
Whoa, you helping out with the earthquake or somethin’?
Oh, damn, I guess I let something slip, haha.
It's not exactly me helping, but yeah, kind of. And I have wanted to visit them for a long time: the country is beautiful, the people are welcoming.
Talibs are not that bad guys, to be honest, they want peace, order and prosperity for their nation, which is not a bad start, I have hopes for them.
fleurbleue said:
You're a man so I guess you will be fine so long as you don't burn a Quran or something.
You're a man so I guess you will be fine so long as you don't burn a Quran or something.
Unironically, women are more safe, noone targets them. Inconvenient - yes: talibs wouldn't talk to another man's woman, not even speaking of touching her.
But the problem is, they have to communicate, to explain rules and all that. Which brings us to a very unpleasant cognitive dissonance that may resolve in a quirky way. So, girls can't travel alone, they need a man as their communication interface.
But men are definitely less safe: make a mistake, it's the man who will pay for it.
If you think of it, that's some extreme femdom, haha.
LoveYourSmile said: Talibs are not that bad guys, to be honest, they want peace, order and prosperity for their nation, which is not a bad start, I have hopes for them. So wait, my belief that men should pay for the first date demands a bigger response than all the shit the Taliban does? I do not think most people are characterizing them as vicious Ted Bundys who eat babies, but instead those in a highly misogynistic and repressive culture that is draconian, backwards, and repressive to a highly bigoted extreme. Which yes...they are. Good intentions pave the road to hell. Women are effectively property. Omni-man does not get off the hook by saying he loves his wife for following it up with "she is more like a pet". I sort of get what you are saying, but it is effectively a response to a criticism no one has seriously given. They deserve all of the criticism from a human right's perspective. LoveYourSmile said: But men are definitely less safe: make a mistake, it's the man who will pay for it. This is the sort of flippant shit that pisses me off, to be honest. Like yes, I suppose one would be safe if they followed all the repressive rules of a theocratic autocracy. But that's sort of the fucking criticism there? You cannot gesture to safety as a good thing when it proceeds from coercion. |
PeripheralVisionYesterday, 9:12 PM
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Yesterday, 9:22 PM
#38
PeripheralVision said: So wait, my belief that men should pay for the first date demands a bigger response than all the shit the Taliban does? My responses are a matter of a whim, not a reason. It's not like my goal is to change the world by chatting on an anime forum, haha. And here, I don't judge talibs for their domestic policies - home rules are home rules, you either accept them or leave the house. I'm speaking from a touristic perspective only. You will be thankful to that bearded man with AK-47 protecting you from dangers, respecting your ownership over your "property" and not even looking at her side. They will be welcoming, protective, show you respect, and provide accommodations and guidance. And you will follow the rules supposed to save your ass in their cruel world, praise the order they have built in just 3 years or so. For me as a tourist, it all doesn't sound bad, considering the situation. |
LoveYourSmileYesterday, 11:02 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Yesterday, 9:36 PM
#39
Reply to LoveYourSmile
PeripheralVision said:
So wait, my belief that men should pay for the first date demands a bigger response than all the shit the Taliban does?
So wait, my belief that men should pay for the first date demands a bigger response than all the shit the Taliban does?
My responses are a matter of a whim, not a reason. It's not like my goal is to change the world by chatting on an anime forum, haha.
And here, I don't judge talibs for their domestic policies - home rules are home rules, you either accept them or leave the house. I'm speaking from a touristic perspective only.
You will be thankful to that bearded man with AK-47 protecting you from dangers, respecting your ownership over your "property" and not even looking at her side. They will be welcoming, protective, show you respect, and provide accommodations and guidance.
And you will follow the rules supposed to save your ass in their cruel world, praise the order they have built in just 3 years or so. For me as a tourist, it all doesn't sound bad, considering the situation.
LoveYourSmile said: My responses are a matter of a whim, not a reason. It's not like my goal is to change the world by chatting on an anime forum, haha. And here, I don't judge talibs for their domestic policies - home rules are home rules, you either accept them or leave the house. I'm speaking from a touristic perspective only.. Exactly. It is easy for us to say this as men visiting this country as tourists rather than as women who live there. It is fucking infuriating to then gesture shit like this Unironically, women are more safe, noone targets them. Inconvenient - yes: talibs wouldn't talk to another man's woman, not even speaking of touching her. But the problem is, they have to communicate, to explain rules and all that. Which brings us to a very unpleasant cognitive dissonance that may resolve in a quirky way. So, girls can't travel alone, they need a man as their communication interface. But men are definitely less safe: make a mistake, it's the man who will pay for it. As if women were overall "safer", which given the Taliban's regressive view on healthcare and women's rights, is functionally not so. How do you think some of the women fucking feel living in this regime? I of course speak from an entitled western perspective, and I imagine there are many women out there who do welcome the sort of peace the Taliban has ushered compared to before, who do have a positive experience with the Taliban. In fact, many do, but this is comparative. At the same time, I know from fact and experience and good ol' intuition that life under the Taliban regime is a living hell for many of those women and girls. Is it not the least bit callous on your behalf then to be so lighthearted about this, especially given how many women are left to die and rot in the rubble of the recent earthquake due to rules regarding skin contact between men and women? Like fuck man, what should my response be to either the shit you are saying or how you are saying it? Do you think that maybe this: My responses are a matter of a whim, not a reason is not the fucking problem here? I agree with you, I don't think the men of the Taliban are 100% pure evil at their core, but much of the criticism has never relied on this being true. Instead, the criticism has relied on their actions, and the Taliban's actions suck. It is easy to downplay this shit even from personal experience if you are a man, and it is so fucking annoying when we do this shit. I hate to have gone full social justice warrior here, and it is not exactly my problem relevant to my daily existence or identity as a man, but...yeah. I just think it is gross to not be serious enough about this. There are ways to introduce nuance that does not downplay or make light the very serious shit here. |
PeripheralVisionYesterday, 9:42 PM
"Have we not eaten while another starved? Will you punish us for that? Will you reward us for the virtue of starving while others ate? No man earns punishment, no man earns reward. Free your mind of the idea of deserving, the idea of earning, and you will begin to be able to think.” |
Yesterday, 10:08 PM
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@PeripheralVision I don't know what you are arguing here, tbh. I'm not Jesus to feel my personal responsibility for every living creature in this world. I told you what I told you: it's an interesting travel destination, and relatively safe, for women too. If you come to someone's house and tell them how to behave, your stay won't be pleasant. I don't see much sense in criticizing those dudes, that's just waste of energy - the world is unfair, I've seen it a lot and don't want to spoil my morning coffee with crying over what I'm unable to fix. |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
8 hours ago
#41
@LoveYourSmile Now that I remember, there's a well-known YouTuber (bald and bankrupt) who always travels to the most unsafe places. He once got arrested in Kazakhstan for trespassing on Roscosmos property while trying to find the abandoned Buran. He also once set foot in a cartel countryside village (I think it was in Colombia, but I'm not entirely sure) and was literally hiding in tall grass as they were trying to catch him. Anyway, he even went to Afghanistan, so I'll share the video (with a little luck, you're not already aware of his channel). |
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