How can I NOT make a thread about this: WTF (episode 6 spoilers, trigger warning)

damn bro thats crazy 🗿🗿🗿

What happened to this website.

Also jumping to a Hitler analogy isn't helping you. An episode of an anime is equivalent to one of the most cruel people in human history? Really?

@Dukino Read my posting again. Your attempt at dismissing it by misportraying it isn't clever.

This episode didn't just show how someone got there, it tried to humanize the rape-murderer, and why did we need to see this? That's where my Hitler-comparison comes in. What would it matter to see Hitler's tragic past that made him into a hurtful monster murdering 6 million jews? What this anime tried was to make the audience evoke sympathy for the needles-guy, "awww, he had such a sad past". Fuck that. There's always an explanation for why evil people become evil, nobody is born evil. But we usually don't and shouldn't sympathize with that past, because it never excuses the present. And it definitely doesn't excuse to force the almost-rape victim to treat her attacker's wounds. That's fucked up.

@MyllerPhiem actually I think it's very clever so sounds like a you problem. Again comparing this to Hitler isn't helping your case. You sound deranged.

Nothing was excused. Just shown how he got to where he is. If you interpreted it as them going that far that's on you

Get rid of this thread lmfaooo, I can't believe for a single second you unironically think this guy is even close to Hitler's level. We *haven't* had a redemption for him yet, we've only seen why he acts this way and why he's so close to his friends. "Rape-murderer"? Actually he's an "attempted" case here, he didn't actually do it. Does that make it less bad? Fuck yes. Is it still a terrible thing? Of course, but if someone works hard enough they can be forgiven.

Soga will hopefully get a redemption arc worth a bag of crisps later down the line, what did you want Pop Step to do? Watch him bleed out or some shit? Pah, hardly gives the guy a chance for forgiveness.

YOU as an audience are the problem if you think the point of this episode was to justify his behaviour - it just showed his backstory, and camaraderie amongst other ostracised people. He will undoubtedly grow as a character given time, potentially to the point where he can be forgiven. I want to point out this episode also gave us Stain's backstory, I don't see you out here criticizing that and going "what are they trying to do? justify his descent into insanity?"

Please do yourself a favour, and grow a pair. Or perhaps... watch something else? Yeah that sounds better, just fuck off if you can't handle adult topics in a fictional show. Have fun with the PreCure series dickwad.

i went back to ep 1 turns out it was the porcupine dude lmao comparing that guy to hitler is crazy

the fact that this tourist think the ep is dedicated to him and not standal is crazy
this tourist can't even separate reality from fiction

bro didn't even rape no one lmao

this tourist ass is mad cus pop step treated his wounds the fact he is calling her a rape victim lol when ???

comparing an attempted rapist with world most cruel person mass murdered and tortured 6m people maybe he even raped some of them is next level mental retardation

Dawg you’ve put berserk down as one of your favourite mangas as well as Eren and Light as your favourite character be fucking for real

The amount of tourist in the anime community since 2020 is making nuanced conversations about anime impossible because they can’t separate reality from fiction. Fiction is THE PLACE to play devils advocate. Of course many anime can and have crossed “that line” but this isn’t one of those cases. being mad that popstep didn’t let her ATTEMPTED grapist bleed out to death is kinda wild. Some kid that I got into a fight with in college tried to choke me cause of some bullsh*t but I wouldn’t let them bleed out in front of me lmao

I think it's a valid criticism, but also a misguided one. But first, let's stop with this ad Hitlerum — there's absolutely no equivalence, and it trivializes a serious issue

The central idea of the episode isn't exactly to "make you feel sympathy for Soga", but to open a discussion about what the role of a hero truly is, and what separates vigilantes from Stain.

The main argument is that heroes don't exist to make moral judgments on their own or decide who lives or dies — their role is to save, no matter who it is (just like a doctor does) — because People are, most of the time, much more than just the good or bad things they do, people are much more "gray" than the black-and-white worldview Stain sees. Soga exists here precisely as an example of that.

Now, if you say that "using a rapist as an example might be going too far," I would partly agree. But the episode isn't a "redemption arc for Soga", I don't think that seem like it, at least not to me. it's just the starting of... something I Think?

Secondly, I'd argue that while it's a bold narrative choice, it doesn't automatically invalidate the story. Sometimes we forget that Endeavor committed coercive eugenics, domestic abuse, and raped Rei (YES, if you actually paid attention to Dabi's flashback episode, you would realize this).
But even that can't automatically be a barrier to developing a character — we need time to see how the Vigilantes' author is going to handle it.

Most villains are horrible people with tragic pasts, but the fact that they did something terrible by itself doesn't prevent a story from working with them narratively. The problem isn't WHAT, the problem is HOW the story chooses to do it, If you had said "I didn't like how he handled it in this episode" that would be a fair criticism and would make much more sense than making an ad Hitlerum.

Average MyllerPhiem bait thread. How this dude hasn't been banned yet is beyond me.

Being overly antagonistic with your opinion and demanding people justify an opposing opinion is the definition of bait.

shut your ass up and start fucking separating reality from fiction soga did nothing wrong and his actions is 0.0000001% of what hitler did am gonna report your post i hope they close it again

@MyllerPhiem you have fucking floch as your pfp lmfao