| How anti-conformist are you? Not only in a general sense, but also in relation to the society you live in. For example, will you support and defend some tastes and interests even if they are not popular and supported by others, but are still important to you? Do you try to state this directly or do you simply remain silent in order to avoid creating unnecessary conflict situations? Just to be clear, conformism is not so much supporting some common views, tastes or interests, but "subordination" to them in order to avoid marginalization and condemnation. For example, if you hate isekai just because everyone hates isekai. |
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| Hard to tell, I ain't gonna say I dislike something I like and vice versa and I'll share my point on why through conversation with strangers or people whom I know and most likely people will get it as I just explain stuff by using basic language without complicating stuff too much, unlike in English which ain't my native lang, although when there is a conflict of views and the other side is rather willing to solve it physically than no I won't confort that, just do that peacefully. Unless the situation has no other options but I haven't been put in such situation where there were no other possible options than violence. |
| I like doing my own thing too much and I am too socially isolated to need to conform but I also do not remotely feel free to entirely be me openly around everyone the same way but that applies to pretty much everyone that last bit. I do things more lowkey when I expect too much flack. I do not fake my opinions though just not fully divulge information. |
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| Why do you think I'm so angry in Anime Discussion? In all honesty, there are times in my life where I'd try to appease people to avoid punishment, but at some point I realized that people respect you more, even seeing you as courageous, if you're sincere and stick to your values rather than follow the crowd. |
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| Only anti-conformist when someone i don't like wants me to conform to an idea. I'll be the most stubborn, hardheaded person just for the sake of irritating them. As for asserting my own opinions, I usually stay quiet or sometimes try to get people to think about ideas but I never claim to agree with those ideas myself. |
| I guess it depends on what the subject matter is. I usually lean more towards the underdog and try to think outside the box. If that counts as an answer. |
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| Some time ago I came across a situation like that: I went to meet a girl, when I arrived I took my headphones out of my ears and she asked me - what are you listening to? -, I told her - Metallica -, and she said - I used to like Metallica -, I asked - what happened -, she said - it wasn't fashionable anymore -, I was like - What ???? - . I found what she said so ridiculous that I didn't have any more topics of conversation and the meeting ended up being short. Today's generation says they want more freedom of expression but they are increasingly dependent on the people who dominate social networks, totally dependent on their way of thinking, how ironic. |
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Some time ago I came across a situation like that:
I went to meet a girl, when I arrived I took my headphones out of my ears and she asked me - what are you listening to? -, I told her - Metallica -, and she said - I used to like Metallica -, I asked - what happened -, she said - it wasn't fashionable anymore -, I was like - What ???? - .
I found what she said so ridiculous that I didn't have any more topics of conversation and the meeting ended up being short.
Today's generation says they want more freedom of expression but they are increasingly dependent on the people who dominate social networks, totally dependent on their way of thinking, how ironic.
I went to meet a girl, when I arrived I took my headphones out of my ears and she asked me - what are you listening to? -, I told her - Metallica -, and she said - I used to like Metallica -, I asked - what happened -, she said - it wasn't fashionable anymore -, I was like - What ???? - .
I found what she said so ridiculous that I didn't have any more topics of conversation and the meeting ended up being short.
Today's generation says they want more freedom of expression but they are increasingly dependent on the people who dominate social networks, totally dependent on their way of thinking, how ironic.
| @P2rticl3 The funniest thing is when people judge you for your interests when they are considered obscure, but then they themselves start to harass you when it becomes popular and they too become immersed in it. |
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RobertBobert said: Seemingly enough to easily get canceled by some prude conformists, not much is lost though.How anti-conformist are you? For example, will you support and defend some tastes and interests even if they are not popular and supported by others, but are still important to you? Do you try to state this directly or do you simply remain silent in order to avoid creating unnecessary conflict situations? Depends on my mood and if I'm anonymous or not. Offline I mostly remain silent to avoid potential detriment, online I tend to speak my mind, but I still try to avoid needless quarrels, sometimes they still happen though. |
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| I do have pretty fringe opinions and I share them if they come up. I don't like the idea of being part of a movement/holding certain ideas or spouting a certain opinion purely because of the reputation it brings/because it makes life and social interaction easier. If it isn't the truth, it shouldn't be spread or considered. That said, the term "non-conformist" sounds a little gay. |
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I do have pretty fringe opinions and I share them if they come up. I don't like the idea of being part of a movement/holding certain ideas or spouting a certain opinion purely because of the reputation it brings/because it makes life and social interaction easier. If it isn't the truth, it shouldn't be spread or considered. That said, the term "non-conformist" sounds a little gay.
| @Kamikaze_404 It's a natural part of human mentality, especially in situations where you can actually suffer for saying hot takes. Even for a local community. |
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@Kamikaze_404 It's a natural part of human mentality, especially in situations where you can actually suffer for saying hot takes. Even for a local community.
| @RobertBobert There are very, very few scenarios in which hiding your own views and not living according to your principles is ever justified. If you truly believe in something you will live according to it and will not hide your belief. |
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@RobertBobert There are very, very few scenarios in which hiding your own views and not living according to your principles is ever justified. If you truly believe in something you will live according to it and will not hide your belief.
| @Kamikaze_404 It's very easy to talk about such things from the outside. But I doubt that so many people are willing to risk losing many things that are important to them just to "take that!" the majority. Not to mention cases like Rachel Zegler, where not being pretentious really is better. |
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| I am smart enough to know that the entire global economy is a scam, which will end with NTHE. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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@Kamikaze_404 It's very easy to talk about such things from the outside. But I doubt that so many people are willing to risk losing many things that are important to them just to "take that!" the majority. Not to mention cases like Rachel Zegler, where not being pretentious really is better.
| @RobertBobert Are you implying that the only scenario in which someone may express "non-conformist" views publicly, especially in real life, is for "gotcha" moments? Tell me if I'm interpreting your post incorrectly. I hope I am. You're right in assuming that some people may stand to lose important things, but this is only if they decide to be very insistent on letting the whole world know about how they particularly feel about certain things, even unprompted. It's rare that anything really terrible happens if you just speak normally with people. For the record, expressing anything beyond generic small talk in places like your workplace is rarely a good idea, this goes beyond unconventional opinions. Talking about your religion or which dog breed should get banned next is a little unprofessional usually. I speak as someone that does act like this in real life and I have met people that are now very important to me due to being upfront about my own beliefs. I have alienated others also. I certainly am not thought of as the easiest to get along with. I, however, certainly was never disliked in my community nor am I being put in one of MI5's special gulags for talking about the CIA being a drug ring, or whatever, when such topics come up and the person I'm speaking with is willing to discuss such things. You don't need to be spineless in order to not "lose many things" A good piece of advice is if you have to hide your beliefs in order to get along with someone, or a group of people, you will likely not get along with them ever and will suffer more as a result of trying to get closer to them anyways. Beyond keeping your own dignity, this is why it's not good to just keep your head down whenever you're met with resistance of any sort. I will be honest, I don't know what bringing up "muh poor brown woman" is doing for your point. I don't know anything about her beyond the fact that she was unfortunately used to depict a European woman when she herself is not fully European... nor do I care to know more about her. |
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@RobertBobert Are you implying that the only scenario in which someone may express "non-conformist" views publicly, especially in real life, is for "gotcha" moments? Tell me if I'm interpreting your post incorrectly. I hope I am.
You're right in assuming that some people may stand to lose important things, but this is only if they decide to be very insistent on letting the whole world know about how they particularly feel about certain things, even unprompted. It's rare that anything really terrible happens if you just speak normally with people.
For the record, expressing anything beyond generic small talk in places like your workplace is rarely a good idea, this goes beyond unconventional opinions. Talking about your religion or which dog breed should get banned next is a little unprofessional usually.
I speak as someone that does act like this in real life and I have met people that are now very important to me due to being upfront about my own beliefs. I have alienated others also. I certainly am not thought of as the easiest to get along with. I, however, certainly was never disliked in my community nor am I being put in one of MI5's special gulags for talking about the CIA being a drug ring, or whatever, when such topics come up and the person I'm speaking with is willing to discuss such things. You don't need to be spineless in order to not "lose many things"
A good piece of advice is if you have to hide your beliefs in order to get along with someone, or a group of people, you will likely not get along with them ever and will suffer more as a result of trying to get closer to them anyways. Beyond keeping your own dignity, this is why it's not good to just keep your head down whenever you're met with resistance of any sort.
I will be honest, I don't know what bringing up "muh poor brown woman" is doing for your point. I don't know anything about her beyond the fact that she was unfortunately used to depict a European woman when she herself is not fully European... nor do I care to know more about her.
You're right in assuming that some people may stand to lose important things, but this is only if they decide to be very insistent on letting the whole world know about how they particularly feel about certain things, even unprompted. It's rare that anything really terrible happens if you just speak normally with people.
For the record, expressing anything beyond generic small talk in places like your workplace is rarely a good idea, this goes beyond unconventional opinions. Talking about your religion or which dog breed should get banned next is a little unprofessional usually.
I speak as someone that does act like this in real life and I have met people that are now very important to me due to being upfront about my own beliefs. I have alienated others also. I certainly am not thought of as the easiest to get along with. I, however, certainly was never disliked in my community nor am I being put in one of MI5's special gulags for talking about the CIA being a drug ring, or whatever, when such topics come up and the person I'm speaking with is willing to discuss such things. You don't need to be spineless in order to not "lose many things"
A good piece of advice is if you have to hide your beliefs in order to get along with someone, or a group of people, you will likely not get along with them ever and will suffer more as a result of trying to get closer to them anyways. Beyond keeping your own dignity, this is why it's not good to just keep your head down whenever you're met with resistance of any sort.
I will be honest, I don't know what bringing up "muh poor brown woman" is doing for your point. I don't know anything about her beyond the fact that she was unfortunately used to depict a European woman when she herself is not fully European... nor do I care to know more about her.
| @Kamikaze_404 All I want to say is that many people have to make so-called "conscience deals" for quite trivial reasons, even without the danger of becoming a political prisoner of conscience in a police tyranny. |
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| Let's see I know absolutely nothing about politics and current events in my own country, save what people are constantly talking about The same for memes I also don't understand pop culture references (in my country) because I grew up with cable, and generic American sitcom-ish cartoons basically made me hate normies, as they were usually the bullies in most shows (kinda same irl too) I always avoid social gatherings, unless attendance is mandatory and I'm not afraid to point out some issues at work or class, all the while knowing it'll upset the apple cart Most of this is probably because of my xenocentrist worldview growing up. I don't think like this now though, I try to blend in more now But not because I want/have to, I just don't really have the urge to distance myself from people anymore, plus it's not that bad having a few convos and drinks every now and then I guess |
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@P2rticl3 The funniest thing is when people judge you for your interests when they are considered obscure, but then they themselves start to harass you when it becomes popular and they too become immersed in it.
| @RobertBobert In my opinon : In this situation I mentioned, the judgment lies in the why and not in the like, further in this conversation she may have liked Metallica a lot but she can't like it anymore. Popularity because “it has the sympathy of the people”, “public esteem” ... When someone says I don't like that genre, often within that genre there are 2 or 3 that you like, just because that genre becomes popular doesn't mean that you start liking that genre. Popularity encompasses the majority, not everyone. |
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@RobertBobert
In my opinon : In this situation I mentioned, the judgment lies in the why and not in the like, further in this conversation she may have liked Metallica a lot but she can't like it anymore.
Popularity because “it has the sympathy of the people”, “public esteem” ...
When someone says I don't like that genre, often within that genre there are 2 or 3 that you like, just because that genre becomes popular doesn't mean that you start liking that genre. Popularity encompasses the majority, not everyone.
In my opinon : In this situation I mentioned, the judgment lies in the why and not in the like, further in this conversation she may have liked Metallica a lot but she can't like it anymore.
Popularity because “it has the sympathy of the people”, “public esteem” ...
When someone says I don't like that genre, often within that genre there are 2 or 3 that you like, just because that genre becomes popular doesn't mean that you start liking that genre. Popularity encompasses the majority, not everyone.
| @P2rticl3 These don't necessarily interfere with each other. Many people once despised geeks for our hobbies, but now, when our hobbies have become popular mainstream, they have simply appropriated them and say without any irony that "geeks are ruining our hobbies". This is one of the reasons why you hear things like "men are ruining the shonen demographic" or "gamers are ruining video games" so often these days. |
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| I just care about trends or whatsoever I just like what I like and dislike what I dislike, regardless of their popularity |
| When it comes to opinions delivery matters a lot. If you say and explain stuff in a way that sounds reasonable then you will get a lot more wiggle room to say non-conformist things. If you are confrontational or worse, very dogmatic and set in your ways then you will get a lot more push back. Not many people like a preacher or someone who sits on their high horse so don't be that person. If on the other hand you are more laid back, open minded and can see the logic of alternative viewpoints then people are less likely to bother or critique you even if your opinions are "out there". Like with many things in life, appearances matter. Not saying you can say the most crazy stuff and get away Scott free just saying how you pitch an idea makes a big difference. It is possible to be very non-conformist and not get a lot of flak for your opinion. You just need to market it right. It terms of conformity, I think in some areas in most areas I conform but then I never minded to state my opinion if it goes off the beaten path. |
| I'm not anti-conformist at all I am simply correct also hating isekai is most definitely the non conforming take, there's a reason this slop keeps dominating the market, and by slop I mean every single one of them |
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I'm not anti-conformist at all I am simply correct
also hating isekai is most definitely the non conforming take, there's a reason this slop keeps dominating the market, and by slop I mean every single one of them
also hating isekai is most definitely the non conforming take, there's a reason this slop keeps dominating the market, and by slop I mean every single one of them
| @its_love Hating isekai is like hating Twilight. They make a ton of money and are incredibly popular, but the hatred is so strong that almost no one will admit it. Many people are naturally surprised as to why isekai are still so successful if they are so hated. |
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| It depends on my mood, to be honest... |
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| Many people in my life have wanted me/us (family) to just forget about the circumstances of our illnesses and just move on. I can't do this because of the cover-up and false medical records & history that still plagues me, and those words they say are just coping mechanisms for themselves. I don't know if I'll ever be totally free from it, but I'm not gonna allow myself to be further harmed to save some reputations, although I'm nowhere near the fighter that my mother was, I still want to do what I know is right for myself and my sister who's the only one along with me left. As for hobbies, I still enjoy trainspotting and being a rail enthusiast. My country loves trains but not so much people who love trains. We were the butt of jokes and even labeled as terrorists. But it's becoming more sensible now. Ah being a pro wrestling fan too also I suppose? you still sometimes get the odd person wants to ruin your enjoyment with the whole "wrestling is fake" thing. That somehow makes them better or smarter than me, when they themselves probably don't know the art to it. |
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| I'm anti-conformist and anti-anti-conformist. I don't go out of my way to conform or to be anti-conformist. I just live my life and do what I want. If everyone is watching isekai, I do not care. I won't watch more of it because of that, and I won't avoid it for that reason, either. I'll just decide for myself if I want to watch it. |
| We all know religion is a scam. Of course, there is no God. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
DesuMaiden said: We all know religion is a scam. Of course, there is no God. How cute, your interpreter routine computed that this topic is about religious nonconformists, instead of contrarians. |
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| Don't you mean "non-conformist"?........ |
| You're going down, punk... |
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Don't you mean "non-conformist"?........
| @l-ovelaced No, judging by Wikipedia and Google, now for some reason it needs to be written exactly like this. |
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| Eh, Australia is pretty relaxed in it's ideals tbh. There really is nothing to conform to so we just do our own thing. |
| Honestly, pretty conformist. I usually get around disagreeing with people by staying silence, asking devil's advocate questions or commenting in ways that don't express opinion. I'm trying to change, but at this point, it's part of my personality so it's hard. It doesn't help that apparently I don't know how to express myself without sounding too blunt or argumentative. But there are some topics, like hobbies, that I consider to be safe and don't mind being anti-conformist if it comes to it. |
| I don't like mainstream anime shows. I prefer the cute waifu anime shows. Like Hyperdimension Neptunia and Date a Live. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
| I approach the expression of these differences with care, choosing when to voice them based on the context and relationship, I am open to my parents and maintain a reserved nature around others. I keep trying to find out when speaking out might create unnecessary friction and preserving peace allows me to stay true to myself without compromising relationships. It’s a subtle, considerate approach to anti-conformism, one that allows me to honor my individuality without alienating others. In relation to society, i keep trying to quietly stand by my values while maintaining a deep sense of self-awareness |
| I mean I won't lie, in my public life, I keep my personal views pretty private. So maybe that makes me more of a conformist? Still I am not going to change my views, because society goes in a way I disagree with. I may just be more quiet about it. |
| I'm quite naturally anti-conformist tbh, always have been. However, I generally keep my deep, personal opinions to myself unless if I'm very close to that person. |
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| And laugh at the people who don't think the Jews control the world. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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Don't you mean "non-conformist"?........
| @l-ovelaced "contrarian" seems like the least ambiguous term in this regard. |
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