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Yesterday, 11:15 PM
#1
who here suffers from this illness or know someone that deals with this? what are your thoughts on schizophrenics? i was diagnose of this since 2007 and become a full neet around 2012 until today, we got a family history of this so my brother also suffers from this illness and we are both jobless, its not like i cannot work its just i either get force to resign because of incompetence especially my memory problems and lack of attention to details or i quit due to distress, too much stress trigger the voices and contrary to popular belief we do not have multiple personalities, plus my negative symptoms like laziness is too much now |
Yesterday, 11:22 PM
#2
I don't have schizophrenia, but I wish there was a cure for it. |
"Omochiikaeri~!" -Rena Ryuuguu |
Yesterday, 11:29 PM
#3
Yesterday, 11:37 PM
#4
Reply to Commit_Crime
I am no schizo but I appreciate and wholeheartedly respect SOME schizos such as you.
@Commit_Crime thanks but why only some? do you have bad experience with other schizophrenics? |
Yesterday, 11:55 PM
#5
Reply to Rosy_Rose
I don't have schizophrenia, but I wish there was a cure for it.
@Rosy_Rose its gonna be a long way i think science needs to reverse engineer the human brain first before they can fully understand the brain and cure all mental illness that way |
Today, 12:06 AM
#6
I somehow don't even though I was being told I did for years. Got reevaluated earlier this year, a rather expensive thing, but that psych said BPD and I guess that makes more sense to what is wrong and I was easily influenced otherwise. This only fuels my distrust with the current diagnosis too. I dunno man why I say this here other than it feels like a perfect place to declare my frustration at that previous diagnosis that caused my life to spiral out of control. In defense of the system there was drug fueled psychosis to varying degrees, that insane shroom trip at the start of 2020 really scrambled my brains entirely yeah that was fucked. Regardless I don't like this situation but mental illness is a scam anyway. Fuck it, we're all fine we just gotta get our shit together. I should be happy I aint a schizo but it's more guilt that I let myself be tricked into being a liar about it because I wasn't but was convinced I was but still I should've had better judgement. Sorry for having all that shit making me a cringe loser not schizo convinced they were to anyone who may have been inconvenienced with my presence. |
♡ Harder Daddy ♡ |
Today, 12:09 AM
#7
Reply to Nette
I somehow don't even though I was being told I did for years. Got reevaluated earlier this year, a rather expensive thing, but that psych said BPD and I guess that makes more sense to what is wrong and I was easily influenced otherwise. This only fuels my distrust with the current diagnosis too. I dunno man why I say this here other than it feels like a perfect place to declare my frustration at that previous diagnosis that caused my life to spiral out of control. In defense of the system there was drug fueled psychosis to varying degrees, that insane shroom trip at the start of 2020 really scrambled my brains entirely yeah that was fucked.
Regardless I don't like this situation but mental illness is a scam anyway. Fuck it, we're all fine we just gotta get our shit together.
I should be happy I aint a schizo but it's more guilt that I let myself be tricked into being a liar about it because I wasn't but was convinced I was but still I should've had better judgement. Sorry for having all that shit making me a cringe loser not schizo convinced they were to anyone who may have been inconvenienced with my presence.
Regardless I don't like this situation but mental illness is a scam anyway. Fuck it, we're all fine we just gotta get our shit together.
I should be happy I aint a schizo but it's more guilt that I let myself be tricked into being a liar about it because I wasn't but was convinced I was but still I should've had better judgement. Sorry for having all that shit making me a cringe loser not schizo convinced they were to anyone who may have been inconvenienced with my presence.
@Nette misdiagnosis in psychiatry happens a lot, as for me and my brother we got a family history of this illness so we sadly inherited it too plus we do not do drugs |
degToday, 12:25 AM
Today, 12:38 AM
#8
Can you influence or control which hallucinations appear in your mind? Like, can you deliberately hallucinate about having sex for example? |
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Today, 12:39 AM
#9
My thoughts on it is that it is really unfair that it is genetic. It is not 100% genetic since your environment is also a factor. But the genetic risks are pretty high. It makes my heart ache for those that unfairly have to deal with it through no fault of their own. Because schizophrenics are just born with it or get it possibly through an event/trauma or a habit that triggers and aggravates the issue. I wish there will be there more advancement in medicine to cure it |
Today, 12:45 AM
#10
Reply to Zarutaku
Can you influence or control which hallucinations appear in your mind? Like, can you deliberately hallucinate about having sex for example?
@Zarutaku nope the voices cannot be controlled, i can just distract myself so that they go away but that does not always work and upping the dose of the medicine can a lot of times reduce the intensity of the hallucinations @tsukareru true its just the human brain is one of the most complex things in the world, and as computer programming says the more complex a thing is the more error prone it is too |
degToday, 12:58 AM
Today, 1:17 AM
#11
I worked in the ER and unfortunately a lot of the patients that would trickle in suffered from mental illness. I would say I personally haven’t met someone with schizophrenia who isn’t requiring care with family/sitter, plus being on an anti-psychotic. I would say I admire the strength to be able to go about your day distinguishing between voices, not feeling understand and wish there was better support so those suffering didn’t feel as isolated |
12 hours ago
#12
I don't have mental illness such as schizo But if deep depression is considered as mental illness, then yes I have it I have, however, physical chronic pain at sacrococcygeal joint, 7 years, that is bent abnormally, causing pain every single day, and depending on activities, can go into extremely painful, which cause a lot of stress and therefore bring forth anger and other negative emotions |
12 hours ago
#13
I guess my main problem is OCD. Not a very pleasant thing either. |
9 hours ago
#14
Reply to m0llerz
I worked in the ER and unfortunately a lot of the patients that would trickle in suffered from mental illness. I would say I personally haven’t met someone with schizophrenia who isn’t requiring care with family/sitter, plus being on an anti-psychotic. I would say I admire the strength to be able to go about your day distinguishing between voices, not feeling understand and wish there was better support so those suffering didn’t feel as isolated
@m0llerz ye when voice hallucinations strikes my brain by default believes they are real and its hard to convince my scumbag brain its fake or not real thats why antipsychotics helps a lot since it reduces the high emotions like stress that triggers this voices |
9 hours ago
#15
* I know what I say is gonna sound very conspiracy theory but it's unfortunately true * I don't exactly know if my Dad & Sister were actually diagnosed with schizophrenia, as I don't think we had our side of our story listened to, but they had signs that mimicked it, but our illnesses also mimic these signs when exposed to certain things, as we were all very chemically sensitive. Because my mother was such a thorn in the side to powerful people who wronged us medically & legally, I believe there's been a few attempts to cause us harm via chemicals. My mother's colleague was hospitalised from a strange something when in a meeting, my mother was also affected by it. We had a strange powder applied to the door handle of our house in Wales, where my mother primarily lived. Anyone who touched the handle got sick, even my eldest sister and her husband, and they weren't affected by our main poisoning illness and sensitivities. Also at our main home in my hometown, we had a guy we didn't know who was just wiping down the front of our house. My mother sort of connected all these things to those against us, but I don't know... Anyway... It's very sad, both my sis & Dad had random moments where they just became so different and quite violent and uncontrollable. My Dad actually grabbed some scissors and threatened us with them, and we had to barricade ourselves in my room until Police came. My sister's first episodes had her dislocating her jaw a few times, and she also jumped out of her 2nd floor window, as voices in her head told her to steal something from a grocery store (she later told us). They both were sectioned about 3 times I think? each time my sister came out, she seemed to regress more upon each release, and I'm genuinely shocked they let her out. They were never quite so violent again, but they weren't themselves either. My Dad when he first came out was basically a zombie, later basically becoming an adult baby, he could eat, watch TV and sleep, that was it. My sister now barely remembers us and thinks we're strangers. She keeps phoning everyone up trying to figure out who they are. I don't think their care was the best, especially concerning our illnesses, as we have our own places to go to, but we weren't believed, mainly probably because the cover-up we're involved in altered our medical records, and they were just dealt with normally. My Dad had 30+ ECTs against our wishes, but they did it anyway. Both of them were on meds way too long, and too high a dose that also gave them side effects. My Dad's gut in particular was absolutely wrecked and he found it difficult to keep food down. Drugs seem to numb the problem to make them easier for others to deal with, wish there was a proper cure. |
Little_Sheepling7 hours ago
8 hours ago
#16
Most schizophrenics are not aggressive, and are more likely to be victims of violence rather than perpetrators. Media coverage, especially movies, portrayed schizophrenic characters as criminal, dangerous, violent, unpredictable, suicidal, and depicted delusions and hallucinations as the main symptoms of schizophrenic characters, ignoring other common symptoms. People with schizophrenia are commonly exploited and victimized by crime as part of a broader dynamic of social exclusion. People diagnosed with schizophrenia are also subject to forced medication, seclusion, and restraint at high rates. |
7 hours ago
#17
I thought your brother was working for some time? Delusions are result of trying to make sense of their own experiences the ones that occur external (life) as well as internal (hallucinations). It's a sort of overdriven pattern recognition finding things to seem significant that aren't. The negative symptoms and creating social connectivity of support over the experiences may hold more importance than trying to quell hallucinations and delusions in themselves. Hallucinations and even delusions aren't even inherently a problem, it is a matter of forms of manifestation and skills available to manage it as to whether or not it is a problem. This is a little more in line with the Hearing Voices Movement and the views of R.D Laing than the current convention. Antipsychotics first gen, second gen and somewhat this loosely dubbed third gen are inadequate and too many side effects causing low adherence to them. The withdrawals from antipsychotics abruptly stopped can cause psychosis even if someone did not have a psychotic disorder to begin with in theory anyway. Their use is excessive, where best use is on first psychotic break then to slowly wean them off following a hyperbolic dosage curve once stabilized. This should increase remission and recovery rates, though not for everyone. TAAR1 agonist antipsychotics seem promising meds in development Zarutaku said: Can you influence or control which hallucinations appear in your mind? Like, can you deliberately hallucinate about having sex for example? deg said: nope the voices cannot be controlled, i can just distract myself so that they go away but that does not always work and upping the dose of the medicine can a lot of times reduce the intensity of the hallucinations One girl I knew with schizoaffective disorder had a guy she always saw which was very strange. He looked like an OC she made and was always present as if she had created a tulpa. If I recall correctly I had told her to imagine a sort of shield bubble around him distancing him from her and a dial volume and to turn down the dial to silence him. This actually worked a little bit she said, first try, where his voice got quieter. Im not sure if she kept this up since I lost contact when she switched to Discord but I do wonder if enough practice hallucinations can be controlled. tsukareru said: My thoughts on it is that it is really unfair that it is genetic. It is not 100% genetic since your environment is also a factor. But the genetic risks are pretty high. It makes my heart ache for those that unfairly have to deal with it through no fault of their own. Because schizophrenics are just born with it or get it possibly through an event/trauma or a habit that triggers and aggravates the issue. I wish there will be there more advancement in medicine to cure it There is studies linking it to the diet of the mother during pregnancy. High methionine and low choline to my recall. Choline is particularly important for fetal development but is lacking in prenatal vitamins often. |
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6 hours ago
#18
@traed my brother does not work he only do some freelance being a computer technician and that happens like 1 time every month in average ye i feel like my negative symptoms like man of few words, being asocial and being too lazy aka avolition is more worse than the hallucinations and delusions interesting well hallucinations is like when youre dreaming while waking up but rather a nightmare when youre awake so maybe lucid dreaming techniques can be applied to them but to me it never works though because the more i try to control the voices the more stress i become and more stress is fuel to the voices |
6 hours ago
#19
I have paranoia of the NSA looking for me on the Internet. Not sure if that would count as schizophrenia, however. |
6 hours ago
#20
Reply to DesuMaiden
I have paranoia of the NSA looking for me on the Internet. Not sure if that would count as schizophrenia, however.
@DesuMaiden nah paranoia alone does not mean schizophrenia already like there is paranoid personality disorder too |
5 hours ago
#21
Fortunately I'm not. But I know a guy who became schizo after having a psychosis from taking drugs at a trance rave. His personality somehow took a shift too. He has been on welfare for almost a decade now. |
5 hours ago
#22
Reply to deg
@DesuMaiden nah paranoia alone does not mean schizophrenia already like there is paranoid personality disorder too
@deg who wouldn't be somewhat paranoid on the Internet? Do you know how dangerous the Internet is? There are hackers everywhere. You have to be very, very careful with what you post online. |
5 hours ago
#23
Reply to fleurbleue
Fortunately I'm not. But I know a guy who became schizo after having a psychosis from taking drugs at a trance rave. His personality somehow took a shift too. He has been on welfare for almost a decade now.
@fleurbleue here we do not have welfare since its still a poor country |
4 hours ago
#24
Man it sucks to be you. Hopefully you go outside and enjoy nature. I’d be hiking all the time in a similar position. |
Auroraloose's Aurorasimp |
4 hours ago
#25
That's sad man, good health and strength to you. I don't know if I have an opinion on schizophrenia. |
4 hours ago
#26
Reply to Little_Sheepling
* I know what I say is gonna sound very conspiracy theory but it's unfortunately true *
I don't exactly know if my Dad & Sister were actually diagnosed with schizophrenia, as I don't think we had our side of our story listened to, but they had signs that mimicked it, but our illnesses also mimic these signs when exposed to certain things, as we were all very chemically sensitive.
Because my mother was such a thorn in the side to powerful people who wronged us medically & legally, I believe there's been a few attempts to cause us harm via chemicals. My mother's colleague was hospitalised from a strange something when in a meeting, my mother was also affected by it. We had a strange powder applied to the door handle of our house in Wales, where my mother primarily lived. Anyone who touched the handle got sick, even my eldest sister and her husband, and they weren't affected by our main poisoning illness and sensitivities. Also at our main home in my hometown, we had a guy we didn't know who was just wiping down the front of our house.
My mother sort of connected all these things to those against us, but I don't know...
Anyway...
It's very sad, both my sis & Dad had random moments where they just became so different and quite violent and uncontrollable.
My Dad actually grabbed some scissors and threatened us with them, and we had to barricade ourselves in my room until Police came.
My sister's first episodes had her dislocating her jaw a few times, and she also jumped out of her 2nd floor window, as voices in her head told her to steal something from a grocery store (she later told us).
They both were sectioned about 3 times I think? each time my sister came out, she seemed to regress more upon each release, and I'm genuinely shocked they let her out. They were never quite so violent again, but they weren't themselves either.
My Dad when he first came out was basically a zombie, later basically becoming an adult baby, he could eat, watch TV and sleep, that was it.
My sister now barely remembers us and thinks we're strangers. She keeps phoning everyone up trying to figure out who they are.
I don't think their care was the best, especially concerning our illnesses, as we have our own places to go to, but we weren't believed, mainly probably because the cover-up we're involved in altered our medical records, and they were just dealt with normally.
My Dad had 30+ ECTs against our wishes, but they did it anyway. Both of them were on meds way too long, and too high a dose that also gave them side effects. My Dad's gut in particular was absolutely wrecked and he found it difficult to keep food down.
Drugs seem to numb the problem to make them easier for others to deal with, wish there was a proper cure.
I don't exactly know if my Dad & Sister were actually diagnosed with schizophrenia, as I don't think we had our side of our story listened to, but they had signs that mimicked it, but our illnesses also mimic these signs when exposed to certain things, as we were all very chemically sensitive.
Because my mother was such a thorn in the side to powerful people who wronged us medically & legally, I believe there's been a few attempts to cause us harm via chemicals. My mother's colleague was hospitalised from a strange something when in a meeting, my mother was also affected by it. We had a strange powder applied to the door handle of our house in Wales, where my mother primarily lived. Anyone who touched the handle got sick, even my eldest sister and her husband, and they weren't affected by our main poisoning illness and sensitivities. Also at our main home in my hometown, we had a guy we didn't know who was just wiping down the front of our house.
My mother sort of connected all these things to those against us, but I don't know...
Anyway...
It's very sad, both my sis & Dad had random moments where they just became so different and quite violent and uncontrollable.
My Dad actually grabbed some scissors and threatened us with them, and we had to barricade ourselves in my room until Police came.
My sister's first episodes had her dislocating her jaw a few times, and she also jumped out of her 2nd floor window, as voices in her head told her to steal something from a grocery store (she later told us).
They both were sectioned about 3 times I think? each time my sister came out, she seemed to regress more upon each release, and I'm genuinely shocked they let her out. They were never quite so violent again, but they weren't themselves either.
My Dad when he first came out was basically a zombie, later basically becoming an adult baby, he could eat, watch TV and sleep, that was it.
My sister now barely remembers us and thinks we're strangers. She keeps phoning everyone up trying to figure out who they are.
I don't think their care was the best, especially concerning our illnesses, as we have our own places to go to, but we weren't believed, mainly probably because the cover-up we're involved in altered our medical records, and they were just dealt with normally.
My Dad had 30+ ECTs against our wishes, but they did it anyway. Both of them were on meds way too long, and too high a dose that also gave them side effects. My Dad's gut in particular was absolutely wrecked and he found it difficult to keep food down.
Drugs seem to numb the problem to make them easier for others to deal with, wish there was a proper cure.
@Little_Sheepling damn seems scary at my worst i do become violent and scared and did attempt suicide many times, but psychotic episodes can be alarming like the experiences your father and sister have although they can be controlled once you find the right maintenance medication for them |
4 hours ago
#27
Reply to Serafos
I guess my main problem is OCD. Not a very pleasant thing either.
@Serafos I also have OCD, it's hard to live with it, I can't leave the bathroom without checking hundreds of times if the tap is really closed or sleep without checking several times if I really locked the door and closed the gate... anyway, it's difficult and it always disrupts my sleep;_; |
4 hours ago
#28
Reply to Pengawas
Most schizophrenics are not aggressive, and are more likely to be victims of violence rather than perpetrators. Media coverage, especially movies, portrayed schizophrenic characters as criminal, dangerous, violent, unpredictable, suicidal, and depicted delusions and hallucinations as the main symptoms of schizophrenic characters, ignoring other common symptoms. People with schizophrenia are commonly exploited and victimized by crime as part of a broader dynamic of social exclusion. People diagnosed with schizophrenia are also subject to forced medication, seclusion, and restraint at high rates.
@Pengawas true the media like in movies thinks we are all violent if anything we can be suicidal instead |
3 hours ago
#29
Reply to deg
@fleurbleue here we do not have welfare since its still a poor country
@deg What will be your options the day you won't be able to live with your parents anymore? |
3 hours ago
#30
Reply to fleurbleue
@deg What will be your options the day you won't be able to live with your parents anymore?
@fleurbleue either taken care by my relatives or my brother and i go homeless |
3 hours ago
#31
Reply to deg
@Commit_Crime thanks but why only some? do you have bad experience with other schizophrenics?
@deg the completely deranged schizos can be hard to reason with. Though I love me some Francis E Dec... |
3 hours ago
#32
Reply to deg
@fleurbleue either taken care by my relatives or my brother and i go homeless
@deg Wow you say it pretty casually but that actually seems like a terribly anxiety-provoking situation. I really hope you can get assistance from relatives, because living your old age in the streets, left to beg to survive and with no medical attention at such an age seems like nightmare fuel to me. |
2 hours ago
#33
Reply to fleurbleue
@deg Wow you say it pretty casually but that actually seems like a terribly anxiety-provoking situation. I really hope you can get assistance from relatives, because living your old age in the streets, left to beg to survive and with no medical attention at such an age seems like nightmare fuel to me.
@fleurbleue its the worst case scenario but me and my brother got 10 years of sss pension contributions back when we are still part of the workforce so we might get some disability assistance if they allow us that is but ye i heard its hard to get it though they are too strict on giving disability pensions here |
2 hours ago
#34
And you mentally "well" people are the delusional ones. Surely, you don't realize the entire system is one big scam? Which will inevitably end with Near Term Human Extinction? |
1 hour ago
#35
Yeah I have it too. Almost completely lost myself to it when we had an uninvited guest yesterday. (my piece of shit retarded mental aunt who's obsessed with me) Also, I know I'm being gang stalked, by my own fucking relatives even. That's not even my schizophrenia it's just a sad reality I have to deal with constantly. I seriously hope all of them including my parents and sister get fried in hell. |
LenRea1 hour ago
34 minutes ago
#36
Reply to LenRea
Yeah I have it too. Almost completely lost myself to it when we had an uninvited guest yesterday. (my piece of shit retarded mental aunt who's obsessed with me)
Also, I know I'm being gang stalked, by my own fucking relatives even. That's not even my schizophrenia it's just a sad reality I have to deal with constantly. I seriously hope all of them including my parents and sister get fried in hell.
Also, I know I'm being gang stalked, by my own fucking relatives even. That's not even my schizophrenia it's just a sad reality I have to deal with constantly. I seriously hope all of them including my parents and sister get fried in hell.
@LenRea did you get clinically diagnose? do you take maintenance meds? |
23 minutes ago
#37
I do know people with schizophrenia. It is an unpleasant thing to live with, and feel for those who do. |
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