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Nov 3, 6:48 AM
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Blue lock situation is not funny anymore, it is very sad. I personally know many animators from new episodes — and most of them are good animators, some are excellent... As someone who worked on one ep in 1st season, where situation with schedule was similar... I remember that I made several layout cuts with movement back then, nothing crazy, but all was transformed to stills. That was production focus, because there was no time and people to work on it on later stages (douga, shiage);
To all people who go and blame animators, harass and make fun of them, please stop, it is extremely not fair, they cannot change the overall situation and they are trying their best.

You can see that even though quality is affected by schedule, drawings are most of the time consistent and good. They know how to draw and animate well. They don't have a chance to.

So ultimately, all your concerns should be directed at Kodansha and Blue Lock production committee.
Not necessarily you can change anything (since its japanese corporations, they won't probably care) but audience can ask questions about massive quality drop with such popularity and revenue that those corporations on top of actual animation studio are making.

If you have read through this wall of text, thank you. I'm not expecting to stop this whole thing by one tweet, but still wort trying to get this message to some animation fans, I believe those are following me.

https://x.com/evakoiani/status/1853054017057730627

ye blame the production committee and kodansha
do not blame the animators and studio for this
degNov 3, 8:02 PM
Nov 3, 7:34 AM
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It's always easy for the general audience to just blame the animators, since they're the ones who do the animating, and because most anime fans unfortunately are pretty clueless as to how anime production works (myself included, I know vague things to an extent here and there [shout out Shirobako] but by no means am I some kind of expert). But yea, the blame more often than not lies with the production committee. Stop thinking with your wallets and give the contracted studio, and its employees, a decent schedule for crying out loud.
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Nov 3, 8:37 AM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. Every week I see posts from people who have no idea how the industry works and have no desire to learn. Creativity is stymied by the bottom line, not by the creative team.
Nov 3, 8:43 AM
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Thank you for clarifying, More people need to know that animators aren't at fault 90% of the time and it's mostly bad scheduling and poor management by the Higher ups. The people making an anime are akin to soldiers, They do their job regardless of what they're told to do but their captain or chief (In this case the higher ups and production committee) can either make them into heroes or let them die in vain.
Nov 3, 9:45 AM
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deg said:
Blue lock situation is not funny anymore, it is very sad. I personally know many animators from new episodes — and most of them are good animators, some are excellent... As someone who worked on one ep in 1st season, where situation with schedule was similar... I remember that I made several layout cuts with movement back then, nothing crazy, but all was transformed to stills. That was production focus, because there was no time and people to work on it on later stages (douga, shiage);
To all people who go and blame animators, harass and make fun of them, please stop, it is extremely not fair, they cannot change the overall situation and they are trying their best.

You can see that even though quality is affected by schedule, drawings are most of the time consistent and good. They know how to draw and animate well. They don't have a chance to.

So ultimately, all your concerns should be directed at Kodansha and Blue Lock production committee.
Not necessarily you can change anything (since its japanese corporations, they won't probably care) but audience can ask questions about massive quality drop with such popularity and revenue that those corporations on top of actual animation studio are making.

If you have read through this wall of text, thank you. I'm not expecting to stop this whole thing by one tweet, but still wort trying to get this message to some animation fans, I believe those are following me.

https://x.com/evakoiani/status/1853054017057730627

ye blame the production committee and kodansha
do not blame the animators and studio for this

Personally I think it's a shame the lack of easily digestible content explaining how the industry works...

I truly wonder to what extent it's not just the bigger players in the industry and in production committees wanting to keep people unaware of how draining and greedy the system is, and just keep them just blaming studios and animators mindlessly when they are unfortunately, majority of the time, at the bottom of the totem pole...

So good thread and post, and thank you, as a consumer, for the work you have already made and hopefully will make in the industry!
Nov 3, 9:50 AM
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*Sigh* Always the higher ups screwing up things for everybody else, as usual. Again, again and again.

On the brighter side more staff members are speaking up nowadays than before. Although I don't think immediate change will occur (despite such being a necessity long time ago) more people speaking up is certainly a step into the right direction.
Nov 3, 10:13 AM
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@ICenturyI just for correction im not the animator i just copy and pasted what they said there
Nov 3, 10:27 AM
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has there been any news about japanese blu ray versions? will the fix things for the bd's?
Nov 3, 10:30 AM
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has there been any news about japanese blu ray versions? will the fix things for the bd's?
@Alphchan bd corrections are never about improving the animation just drawing corrections of already made drawings so they will not add more drawings for the bd releases that is the usual case anyway like 90% of the time
Nov 3, 11:17 AM
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Reply to deg
@Alphchan bd corrections are never about improving the animation just drawing corrections of already made drawings so they will not add more drawings for the bd releases that is the usual case anyway like 90% of the time
@deg Saying "never" is not really true. Most of the time they just correct frame errors but there are still many cases that they re-animate the whole scene. The iconic Ayano's Happiness Theory MV from Mekakucity Actors is the noticable example for this.
Nov 3, 2:42 PM

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@deg Saying "never" is not really true. Most of the time they just correct frame errors but there are still many cases that they re-animate the whole scene. The iconic Ayano's Happiness Theory MV from Mekakucity Actors is the noticable example for this.
@hellomelody thats why i said 90% of the time in the end
Nov 3, 5:25 PM
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There is a pattern with Kodansha and/or Bandai that rot the productions and therefore the life of their animators. Tower of God, Blue Lock... and even Attack on Titan, but the final rest of this one is completely different because the staff at MAPPA is absolutely legendary, it is an exception and a miracle that they ended up with a quality always higher than the industry average despite their conditions. Unfortunately Blue Lock will not have this treatment, and Kodansha is indeed to blame, once again.
Nov 4, 6:54 AM
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deg said:
Blue lock situation is not funny anymore, it is very sad. I personally know many animators from new episodes — and most of them are good animators, some are excellent... As someone who worked on one ep in 1st season, where situation with schedule was similar... I remember that I made several layout cuts with movement back then, nothing crazy, but all was transformed to stills. That was production focus, because there was no time and people to work on it on later stages (douga, shiage);
To all people who go and blame animators, harass and make fun of them, please stop, it is extremely not fair, they cannot change the overall situation and they are trying their best.

You can see that even though quality is affected by schedule, drawings are most of the time consistent and good. They know how to draw and animate well. They don't have a chance to.

So ultimately, all your concerns should be directed at Kodansha and Blue Lock production committee.
Not necessarily you can change anything (since its japanese corporations, they won't probably care) but audience can ask questions about massive quality drop with such popularity and revenue that those corporations on top of actual animation studio are making.

If you have read through this wall of text, thank you. I'm not expecting to stop this whole thing by one tweet, but still wort trying to get this message to some animation fans, I believe those are following me.

https://x.com/evakoiani/status/1853054017057730627

ye blame the production committee and kodansha
do not blame the animators and studio for this

yeah it's sad that the production was like that, and the biggest issue is the animators taking all the trash talk
Nov 4, 8:35 AM
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These guys need to learn something from Production I.G about making sports anime. I mean, just look at Haikyuu!!! 😭
Nov 11, 6:24 PM
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I don't understand why anime 8bit proceed in making this sequel even they lack of budget.

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