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Sep 13, 3:13 PM

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It is what it is, I guess. I tend to avoid anime like that.
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people find incest bad because of retarded child bearing sadly
@deg That's why lesbian incest needs to be more prevalent and accepted. No fucked up babies coming out of that.
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@Zarutaku Mentioned so many Darwin's, how about mentioning that their dad learnt thru his research that inbreading was in fact not a so great idea despite it being pretty common among people of his social status in his time and was in fact worried about the consequences it could have on his kids health
The Darwins had ten children: two died in infancy, and Annie's death at the age of ten had a devastating effect on her parents. Charles was a devoted father and uncommonly attentive to his children. Whenever they fell ill, he feared that they might have inherited weaknesses from inbreeding due to the close family ties he shared with his wife and cousin, Emma Wedgwood. He examined inbreeding in his writings, contrasting it with the advantages of outcrossing in many species


I also wouldn't use someone who condoned the abuse of his own mother while seeing first hand the mental health effects it had on her as an example of a "good outcome of incest"
He (John Byrne) was initially angered by the revelation, but eventually reconciled with the truth of his lineage, saying: "I think he gave me that wonderful mixture of genes with his own daughter, the eldest of the family. That's what they do in Ireland. I presume it's what they do in unlettered places and lettered places. It's traditional, and nobody speaks about it." His mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia, which Byrne attributed to the incestuous relationship
Sep 13, 3:55 PM

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@Zarutaku Mentioned so many Darwin's, how about mentioning that their dad learnt thru his research that inbreading was in fact not a so great idea despite it being pretty common among people of his social status in his time and was in fact worried about the consequences it could have on his kids health
The Darwins had ten children: two died in infancy, and Annie's death at the age of ten had a devastating effect on her parents. Charles was a devoted father and uncommonly attentive to his children. Whenever they fell ill, he feared that they might have inherited weaknesses from inbreeding due to the close family ties he shared with his wife and cousin, Emma Wedgwood. He examined inbreeding in his writings, contrasting it with the advantages of outcrossing in many species


I also wouldn't use someone who condoned the abuse of his own mother while seeing first hand the mental health effects it had on her as an example of a "good outcome of incest"
He (John Byrne) was initially angered by the revelation, but eventually reconciled with the truth of his lineage, saying: "I think he gave me that wonderful mixture of genes with his own daughter, the eldest of the family. That's what they do in Ireland. I presume it's what they do in unlettered places and lettered places. It's traditional, and nobody speaks about it." His mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia, which Byrne attributed to the incestuous relationship
@DigiCat Sapolsky mentions that inbreeding and outbreeding both have their perks and suggests that for many animals, the ideal relative to mate with is actually a third cousin. Which can lead to more than 50% of their genome identical by descent, thus providing more genetic homogeneity. But I do agree that inbreeding can increase the risk of aberrations. I mean, it really depends on case to case. A brother and a sister, who are in their prime health and have no genetic diseases, their child might benefit from higher genes.
 
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Sep 13, 4:00 PM

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My first guess at what that word would mean was pulling out.
Sep 13, 4:16 PM

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@DigiCat Sapolsky mentions that inbreeding and outbreeding both have their perks and suggests that for many animals, the ideal relative to mate with is actually a third cousin. Which can lead to more than 50% of their genome identical by descent, thus providing more genetic homogeneity. But I do agree that inbreeding can increase the risk of aberrations. I mean, it really depends on case to case. A brother and a sister, who are in their prime health and have no genetic diseases, their child might benefit from higher genes.
@Xypheron I don't see how being in prime health and free of genetic diseases can be a benefit when said inbreeding is what can cause genetic mutations and lowerd immune system
Sep 13, 4:42 PM

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@Xypheron I don't see how being in prime health and free of genetic diseases can be a benefit when said inbreeding is what can cause genetic mutations and lowerd immune system
@DigiCat Inbreeding can make harmful recessive mutations more likely to manifest, not all genetic variations are harmful. The outcomes of inbreeding vary widely depending on the specific genetic backgrounds of the parents and the nature of the mutations involved. To answer your question, being in good health and free of genetic diseases does reduce the risk of passing on certain health issues but it doesn’t eliminate the risk of genetic mutations entirely.
 
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Sep 13, 4:46 PM

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Because they simple don't have the right frame of mind

Twincest is honestly one of the most romantic relationships out there, how many other couples can say that they have been together since literally the womb? They have shared each other's warmth and body heat since their very conception. Their naked bodies have known each other since before they even knew other people existed. Super romantic.
Sep 13, 5:03 PM

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Because they simple don't have the right frame of mind

Twincest is honestly one of the most romantic relationships out there, how many other couples can say that they have been together since literally the womb? They have shared each other's warmth and body heat since their very conception. Their naked bodies have known each other since before they even knew other people existed. Super romantic.
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right???? I am happy you get it
Sep 14, 2:27 AM

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@DigiCat Inbreeding can make harmful recessive mutations more likely to manifest, not all genetic variations are harmful. The outcomes of inbreeding vary widely depending on the specific genetic backgrounds of the parents and the nature of the mutations involved. To answer your question, being in good health and free of genetic diseases does reduce the risk of passing on certain health issues but it doesn’t eliminate the risk of genetic mutations entirely.
@Xypheron The risk of passing on health issues, yes, but i'm talking about genetic mutations, not inheriting an already existing mutation

And although yes, not all mutations are bad, the chances of getting a bad mutation out of incest are still higher than that of getting an X-Man, so i wouldn't call it the best way to attempt genetic engeneering
Sep 14, 2:36 AM

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@Xypheron The risk of passing on health issues, yes, but i'm talking about genetic mutations, not inheriting an already existing mutation

And although yes, not all mutations are bad, the chances of getting a bad mutation out of incest are still higher than that of getting an X-Man, so i wouldn't call it the best way to attempt genetic engeneering
@DigiCat Serious question: Would you have wanted to be the result of inbreeding?
 
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@DigiCat Serious question: Would you have wanted to be the result of inbreeding?
@Xypheron Serious answer: of course fucking not
Sep 14, 4:09 AM

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@Zarutaku Mentioned so many Darwin's, how about mentioning that their dad learnt thru his research that inbreading was in fact not a so great idea despite it being pretty common among people of his social status in his time and was in fact worried about the consequences it could have on his kids health
The Darwins had ten children: two died in infancy, and Annie's death at the age of ten had a devastating effect on her parents. Charles was a devoted father and uncommonly attentive to his children. Whenever they fell ill, he feared that they might have inherited weaknesses from inbreeding due to the close family ties he shared with his wife and cousin, Emma Wedgwood. He examined inbreeding in his writings, contrasting it with the advantages of outcrossing in many species


I also wouldn't use someone who condoned the abuse of his own mother while seeing first hand the mental health effects it had on her as an example of a "good outcome of incest"
He (John Byrne) was initially angered by the revelation, but eventually reconciled with the truth of his lineage, saying: "I think he gave me that wonderful mixture of genes with his own daughter, the eldest of the family. That's what they do in Ireland. I presume it's what they do in unlettered places and lettered places. It's traditional, and nobody speaks about it." His mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia, which Byrne attributed to the incestuous relationship
The Darwins had ten children: two died in infancy, and Annie's death at the age of ten had a devastating effect on her parents.
Nothing out of the ordinary, average child mortality in the UK was above 25% when his children were born.
Beginning 1900 it started to drop rapidly because of game-changing medical advances.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-all-time-child-mortality-rate/

DigiCat said:
I also wouldn't use someone who condoned the abuse of his own mother while seeing first hand the mental health effects it had on her as an example of a "good outcome of incest"
Nice try equating incest with abuse, but we know it's not the same. Abuse is bad and it's a plausible cause for his mother's schizophrenia.
If that was the case, then she wouldn't have gotten ill if she loved her father and voluntarily had a child with him.
Anyway, their first-degree inbred son turned out to be fine.
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Sep 14, 5:08 AM

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FanofAction said:
That's why lesbian incest needs to be more prevalent and accepted. No fucked up babies coming out of that.

Right, yuri wincest is too rare. That's why I have Shoujo Sect in my favs 😏
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Sep 14, 5:11 AM

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The Darwins had ten children: two died in infancy, and Annie's death at the age of ten had a devastating effect on her parents.
Nothing out of the ordinary, average child mortality in the UK was above 25% when his children were born.
Beginning 1900 it started to drop rapidly because of game-changing medical advances.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-all-time-child-mortality-rate/

DigiCat said:
I also wouldn't use someone who condoned the abuse of his own mother while seeing first hand the mental health effects it had on her as an example of a "good outcome of incest"
Nice try equating incest with abuse, but we know it's not the same. Abuse is bad and it's a plausible cause for his mother's schizophrenia.
If that was the case, then she wouldn't have gotten ill if she loved her father and voluntarily had a child with him.
Anyway, their first-degree inbred son turned out to be fine.
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Nice try equating incest with abuse

He fucked his own daughter! That means he either raped or groomed her, that IS abuse!
Sep 14, 5:27 AM

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Jackson1333 said:
Twincest is honestly one of the most romantic relationships out there, how many other couples can say that they have been together since literally the womb? They have shared each other's warmth and body heat since their very conception. Their naked bodies have known each other since before they even knew other people existed. Super romantic.

Well said, that's also why mom x son feels so romantic. He grows inside her warm body, comes out of her, suckles on her breasts, grows into a men and finally returns to his origin.
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Sep 14, 5:34 AM

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@Zarutaku
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Nice try equating incest with abuse

He fucked his own daughter! That means he either raped or groomed her, that IS abuse!
@DigiCat Please read more carefully, I already confirmed it's abuse and that it's bad, but abuse isn't equal to incest, they are entirely different things.
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Sep 14, 5:41 AM
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just switch to hentai my child and experience total bliss
Sep 14, 6:06 AM

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@DigiCat Please read more carefully, I already confirmed it's abuse and that it's bad, but abuse isn't equal to incest, they are entirely different things.
@Zarutaku And if you read more carefully you'd see i infact never insinuated that, what is abusive isn't that they're simply related, but that they're father and daughter!

And mother and son is no better, it's not "romantic" as you put it, it's repulsive
Sep 14, 6:20 AM

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@Zarutaku And if you read more carefully you'd see i infact never insinuated that, what is abusive isn't that they're simply related, but that they're father and daughter!

And mother and son is no better, it's not "romantic" as you put it, it's repulsive
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i infact never insinuated that

You did, by trying to say that he isn't a good outcome of incest because his mother got abused.
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Sep 14, 6:31 AM

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i infact never insinuated that

You did, by trying to say that he isn't a good outcome of incest because his mother got abused.
@Zarutaku He isn't a good outcome, he is condoning his grandfather's abuse of his mother, in what world would someone like that be considered sane?
Sep 14, 6:49 AM

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Typical sh*tposter, you're not original at all. Try harder.
Sep 14, 7:15 AM

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@Zarutaku He isn't a good outcome, he is condoning his grandfather's abuse of his mother, in what world would someone like that be considered sane?
@DigiCat I see, that's how you meant it. Well, assuming that he really condoned it, that doesn't mean he approved of it.
He just came to terms with it and accepted the past, because he couldn't change it anyway, that's a fairly sane attitude.
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Sep 14, 9:59 AM

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@DigiCat I see, that's how you meant it. Well, assuming that he really condoned it, that doesn't mean he approved of it.
He just came to terms with it and accepted the past, because he couldn't change it anyway, that's a fairly sane attitude.
@Zarutaku Ehh... condone literally means that you accept/approve of that behaviour, it doesn't mean you have to do that behaviour yourself, but it does mean you are ok with others doing it

You can accept the past while admitting what was done was wrong
Sep 14, 10:39 AM

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@Zarutaku @DigiCat How many times have you debated this topic already?
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@Zarutaku @DigiCat How many times have you debated this topic already?
@Cielord I think for the 3rd time, not sure.
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Sep 14, 11:29 AM

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@Cielord I think for the 3rd time, not sure.
@Zarutaku You aren't tired at this point? It seems like a very futile discussion, or is it that you two enjoy talking to each other? Some enemies to lovers shenanigans?
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@Zarutaku You aren't tired at this point? It seems like a very futile discussion, or is it that you two enjoy talking to each other? Some enemies to lovers shenanigans?
@Cielord Unlikely, she hates me for sure lol. Yes it's exhausting, but I like to defend incest 😏
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Sep 14, 11:44 AM

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Because they simple don't have the right frame of mind

Twincest is honestly one of the most romantic relationships out there, how many other couples can say that they have been together since literally the womb? They have shared each other's warmth and body heat since their very conception. Their naked bodies have known each other since before they even knew other people existed. Super romantic.
@Jackson1333 but people will know they're twins because they look alike.......
Sep 14, 12:08 PM

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There you have it, you can clearly see incest won't get accepted by the public any time soon....😞😞😞 We really need to establish an Incestan to protect love, either in Antarctica or Pakistan because those come to mind when thinking about incest capitals of the world (another thing penguins and Pakistanis have in common)
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It is just a sick trend, people will eventually get bored of outcest.
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@Zarutaku
There you have it, you can clearly see incest won't get accepted by the public any time soon....😞😞😞 We really need to establish an Incestan to protect love, either in Antarctica or Pakistan because those come to mind when thinking about incest capitals of the world (another thing penguins and Pakistanis have in common)
@Commit_Crime Seems interesting, but not realistic. There just needs to be 1 industrial state fully allowing consensual incest, so that researchers can finally conduct reliable studies of modern inbreeding and eventually debunk the antiquated anti-incest propaganda.
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Sep 14, 1:54 PM

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@Cielord I think for the 3rd time, not sure.
@Zarutaku Nah, it's probably closer to 10 😬
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@Zarutaku You aren't tired at this point? It seems like a very futile discussion, or is it that you two enjoy talking to each other? Some enemies to lovers shenanigans?
@Cielord LMAO i can't say it doesn't provide some good entertainment, i do enjoy analyzing the human mind

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@Cielord Unlikely, she hates me for sure lol. Yes it's exhausting, but I like to defend incest 😏

You know if you were just defending incest in general i probably wouldn't hate you despite finding it offputting, but when you start saying stuff like "parent x child is romantic" is when things start to get extreamly nausiating
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@Jackson1333 but people will know they're twins because they look alike.......
@LenRea I'm not sure I see the problem here?
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Well, if you want that, it's still easy to find in Manga. I guess Anime' production companies are too afraid of Cancel Culture. I'm not that big on it Myself, though there are a few hot Hentais with that theme.
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