[Oshi No Ko]
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DigiCat said:
I'm sorry, but this is utterly disgusting
Deformaties might not be as common, the first symptom to arise from incest is lowered immune system, do you think it's ethical to knowingly concieve a child who will have a higher chance of developing health problems?
What is contradictory? Socially acceptable means it's decriminalized, not that the majority of people are gonna agree with it
SigmaAmarooX said:
If they've been divorced since forever and the siblings barely meet then romantic feelings are not unlikely to arise
If they've been divorced since forever and the siblings barely meet then romantic feelings are not unlikely to arise
I'm sorry, but this is utterly disgusting
SigmaAmarooX said:
Besides, just as another dude in here said, the problems that come from reproducing are uncommon for the first generation
Besides, just as another dude in here said, the problems that come from reproducing are uncommon for the first generation
Deformaties might not be as common, the first symptom to arise from incest is lowered immune system, do you think it's ethical to knowingly concieve a child who will have a higher chance of developing health problems?
SigmaAmarooX said:
And its funny because you said something quite contradictory, "make people blind to that" blind to what? the thing they accept?
And its funny because you said something quite contradictory, "make people blind to that" blind to what? the thing they accept?
What is contradictory? Socially acceptable means it's decriminalized, not that the majority of people are gonna agree with it
What's disgusting? up until not long ago, it was completely normal.
Again, I never said that it's mandatory to reproduce. What are we talking about here? The love between relatives or fucking population growth?
And let me pose a question as well: Do you think abortion is ethically right? If not, then why is it normalized? I believe killing people is a far greater problem in today's world than the small chance of someone having a weak immune system, even though I do not condone any of these.
It's funny how society thinks it's alright for men to fuck with each other or for men to identify as women but then they deem it as unethical for two people of the opposite sex to be attracted to each other.
And holy fuck you couldn't have been more wrong on the last part. Do you even know what socially acceptable means? It means that something is up to todays moral standards, not that the government decided to make it legal lmao, the government officials don't represent society. They're just the head of the country, and while it is true that they supposedly act on the will of the people, they cannot change things so easily.
Spoke a bit too harshly on that last part, sorry for that G.
| @SigmaAmarooX The fact that elites married their siblings, cousins, and other family members to "keep the bloodline pure" did not make it normal, look where it got them And you mention it not being mandatory to reproduce, but what you claim was "normal" not so long ago are case where they did reproduce Love between relatives is very different from romantic love I think abortion should only be used as a dire last resort if the life of the mother or child are in danger No one claimed it unethical for 2 people of the opposite sex to be attracted to eachother, what is considered unethical is 2 people who are related to eachother being attracted to eachother, the biggest concern is procreation, but that is but one issue, there is also the psychological impact of having 2 conflicting relationships with the same person, so if that's what you're wondering, yes i don't care if its bro + sis, sis + sis, or bro + bro, it's fucking wrong |
DigiCat said: @SigmaAmarooX The fact that elites married their siblings, cousins, and other family members to "keep the bloodline pure" did not make it normal, look where it got them And you mention it not being mandatory to reproduce, but what you claim was "normal" not so long ago are case where they did reproduce Love between relatives is very different from romantic love I think abortion should only be used as a dire last resort if the life of the mother or child are in danger No one claimed it unethical for 2 people of the opposite sex to be attracted to eachother, what is considered unethical is 2 people who are related to eachother being attracted to eachother, the biggest concern is procreation, but that is but one issue, there is also the psychological impact of having 2 conflicting relationships with the same person, so if that's what you're wondering, yes i don't care if its bro + sis, sis + sis, or bro + bro, it's fucking wrong just because it is known that nobles did this to keep their bloodline doesn't mean it didn't happen amongst commoners. Cousin marriages were very common, and sibling marriages would have been common as well if it happened in todays world, where cases are often that siblings live far apart. Why? because contrary to what you say, people can't have two conflicting relationships with each other. You can have a sister but not see her as a sister because of the lack of time spent with her. Therefore, it is possible to see her as romantic interest. You can't see someone as both a lover and a sibling psychologically speaking. That's why for the most of us, even for me, the thought of seeing your sister/brother that way is nothing more than disgusting. Not all cases are the same though, there are people who have never seen their siblings. Hence at meet-up they would be practically strangers in the eyes of each other, and they could very easily develop feelings for each other. Chat am I cooked or cooking?  |
SigmaAmarooXAug 6, 2024 7:12 AM
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DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX The fact that elites married their siblings, cousins, and other family members to "keep the bloodline pure" did not make it normal, look where it got them
And you mention it not being mandatory to reproduce, but what you claim was "normal" not so long ago are case where they did reproduce
Love between relatives is very different from romantic love
I think abortion should only be used as a dire last resort if the life of the mother or child are in danger
No one claimed it unethical for 2 people of the opposite sex to be attracted to eachother, what is considered unethical is 2 people who are related to eachother being attracted to eachother, the biggest concern is procreation, but that is but one issue, there is also the psychological impact of having 2 conflicting relationships with the same person, so if that's what you're wondering, yes i don't care if its bro + sis, sis + sis, or bro + bro, it's fucking wrong
@SigmaAmarooX The fact that elites married their siblings, cousins, and other family members to "keep the bloodline pure" did not make it normal, look where it got them
And you mention it not being mandatory to reproduce, but what you claim was "normal" not so long ago are case where they did reproduce
Love between relatives is very different from romantic love
I think abortion should only be used as a dire last resort if the life of the mother or child are in danger
No one claimed it unethical for 2 people of the opposite sex to be attracted to eachother, what is considered unethical is 2 people who are related to eachother being attracted to eachother, the biggest concern is procreation, but that is but one issue, there is also the psychological impact of having 2 conflicting relationships with the same person, so if that's what you're wondering, yes i don't care if its bro + sis, sis + sis, or bro + bro, it's fucking wrong
just because it is known that nobles did this to keep their bloodline doesn't mean it didn't happen amongst commoners. Cousin marriages were very common, and sibling marriages would have been common as well if it happened in todays world, where cases are often that siblings live far apart.
Why? because contrary to what you say, people can't have two conflicting relationships with each other. You can have a sister but not see her as a sister because of the lack of time spent with her. Therefore, it is possible to see her as romantic interest. You can't see someone as both a lover and a sibling psychologically speaking. That's why for the most of us, even for me, the thought of seeing your sister/brother that way is nothing more than disgusting. Not all cases are the same though, there are people who have never seen their siblings. Hence at meet-up they would be practically strangers in the eyes of each other, and they could very easily develop feelings for each other.
Chat am I cooked or cooking?
| @SigmaAmarooX And again, just because it did happened among some commoners didn't make it right I'd say your brain is cooked but you'd need to have one in the first place for that to be possible |
DigiCat said: @SigmaAmarooX And again, just because it did happened among some commoners didn't make it right I'd say your brain is cooked but you'd need to have one in the first place for that to be possible now we resort to insults? that's not something a smart person would do either so that doesn't make you any better. I provided as much reasoning as I could. If you choose to just deny with nothing solid to back it up, then I drop the mic, it's like I'm running in circles. (Random photo from my gallery below cuz why not)  |
Zarutaku said: Fishb0i said: Lolisho is the only boundary that I'd say can't be crossed. You do know that in the 1st episode of Oshi no Ko a loli asked an adult man to marry him and he answered she should ask him again when she's 16, just fyi. One of many reasons why this show was ass. |
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RobertBobert said:
@Zarutaku There's something funny about how the anime community, in just 10 years, has gone from being a gathering of people of culture to being a place of people who are literally shocked by imouto shipping.
@Zarutaku There's something funny about how the anime community, in just 10 years, has gone from being a gathering of people of culture to being a place of people who are literally shocked by imouto shipping.
Is people being shocked by that a bad thing?
| @squeekeez Yes. This shows the complete ignorance of these people about the anime industry and audience. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly appeared in the metal fandom and were shocked by songs about cruelty and violence. |
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@RobertBobert Probably because it became much more mainstream, but luckily there are still enough cultured people around.
| @Zarutaku There are so many new people in modern anime that some even criticize shonen fandom for pandering to the male audience. This says a lot. |
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DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX And again, just because it did happened among some commoners didn't make it right
I'd say your brain is cooked but you'd need to have one in the first place for that to be possible
@SigmaAmarooX And again, just because it did happened among some commoners didn't make it right
I'd say your brain is cooked but you'd need to have one in the first place for that to be possible
now we resort to insults? that's not something a smart person would do either so that doesn't make you any better. I provided as much reasoning as I could. If you choose to just deny with nothing solid to back it up, then I drop the mic, it's like I'm running in circles.
(Random photo from my gallery below cuz why not)
| @SigmaAmarooX Yes, cuz flaunting around "am i cooked or cooking" is so smart, and of course anyone who denies what you say has nothing solid to back up their arguments, how can they be solid when you deny them? |
DigiCat said: The fact that elites married their siblings, cousins, and other family members to "keep the bloodline pure" did not make it normal, look where it got them That's a typical example of forced multigenerational inbreeding where the family isolated itself and brainwashed their children to continue this scheme. This is rightfully criminalized because it's a type of systematic child abuse, so it doesn't work as an argument to criminalize all incest in general. |
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You cannot seriously be comparing homosexuality and incest
squeekeez said: You cannot seriously be comparing homosexuality and incest @_YaoiShotaIncest Let us know your opinion about this xD |
| @LoveYourSmile Fine by me - AkaYona - Mashiro-iro Symphony: The Color of Lovers - Utena movie - Vampire Knight Incase you want to avoid portrayals that aren't glorified - Code Geass - Sword Art Online Any other barf-inducing themes you wanna explore? |
LoveYourSmile said: I appreciate this long-read thread, but could someone just share a bunch of titles of taste? https://myanimelist.net/anime/634/Koi_Kaze https://myanimelist.net/anime/8861/Yosuga_no_Sora |
ZarutakuAug 6, 2024 11:15 AM
| Oh look, another thread where someone unconfident in their morality that they take to the forums to validate their stance via the court of public opinion. How boring. But I am curious, what would OP have done if they found out the majority of MAL users supported incest between consenting partners? Would they acknowledge they would be the "weirdo" if they were the statistical anomaly? Or, would that be the excuse to quit anime they've been searching for the whole time? |
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RobertBobert said:
@squeekeez Yes. This shows the complete ignorance of these people about the anime industry and audience. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly appeared in the metal fandom and were shocked by songs about cruelty and violence.
@squeekeez Yes. This shows the complete ignorance of these people about the anime industry and audience. Imagine if a bunch of people suddenly appeared in the metal fandom and were shocked by songs about cruelty and violence.
You say that as if all anime has that. Most anime doesn't and most people don't wanna see that. Ofc people would complain
| @squeekeez No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the show has a significant sibling couple as MCs and someone obviously ships them. It's normal to find shipping incest cringe, but it's not unique to the anime community, let alone the media in general. Read about the most popular ships in Wizards of Beverly Place or better yet, Supernatural, for example. |
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RobertBobert said:
@squeekeez No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the show has a significant sibling couple as MCs and someone obviously ships them. It's normal to find shipping incest cringe, but it's not unique to the anime community, let alone the media in general. Read about the most popular ships in Wizards of Beverly Place or better yet, Supernatural, for example.
@squeekeez No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the show has a significant sibling couple as MCs and someone obviously ships them. It's normal to find shipping incest cringe, but it's not unique to the anime community, let alone the media in general. Read about the most popular ships in Wizards of Beverly Place or better yet, Supernatural, for example.
We aren't taking about the fandom we're talking about the series itself. And call me blind but I haven't noticed any shipping between them.
| @squeekeez Do you have to have a canon ship tease to ship characters? Hell, there are a ton of shows where people ship characters despite any canon relationship between them. I don't believe you've never encountered this. |
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Skaldi2 said: From it's parents, it's flesh and it's relationships. Wow! This is inspirational! What an interesting idea. Does incest make "it's flesh" taste better? That's what I come to these forums for. Thank you! I'll off to write! |
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RobertBobert said:
@squeekeez Do you have to have a canon ship tease to ship characters? Hell, there are a ton of shows where people ship characters despite any canon relationship between them. I don't believe you've never encountered this.
@squeekeez Do you have to have a canon ship tease to ship characters? Hell, there are a ton of shows where people ship characters despite any canon relationship between them. I don't believe you've never encountered this.
When was that stated? Ive barely seen S2 yet.
| @squeekeez Are you aware that this is a manga adaptation? The incest shipping in this title stems from it. |
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LoveYourSmile said: More filthy ones please. I wanna bathe in filth If you mean sex, then maybe: https://myanimelist.net/anime/6987/Aki-Sora https://myanimelist.net/anime/16023/Kuro_to_Kin_no_Akanai_Kagi |
camay1997 said: Oh look, another thread where someone unconfident in their morality that they take to the forums to validate their stance via the court of public opinion. How boring. But I am curious, what would OP have done if they found out the majority of MAL users supported incest between consenting partners? Would they acknowledge they would be the "weirdo" if they were the statistical anomaly? Or, would that be the excuse to quit anime they've been searching for the whole time? lol, best post of the topic 👍 |
Skaldi2 said: The child is utterly doomed from the start. And that's mainly because other people make it believe that it's a weird child and starts feeling ashamed and isolates itself or even worse others vilify or ostracize it, so the problem are the other people in most cases. |
| @LoveYourSmile The first 4 are the filthier ones, and possibly gonna add Penguindrum to the mix Probs Vampire Knight is the filthiest if you have patience |
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RobertBobert said:
@squeekeez Are you aware that this is a manga adaptation? The incest shipping in this title stems from it.
@squeekeez Are you aware that this is a manga adaptation? The incest shipping in this title stems from it.
yeah I missed where you said manga, so could you tell me the chapter where Ruby supposedly said this?
| @squeekeez Also, use spoiler cat, please. This is a very important plot point for future arcs. |
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DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX Yes, cuz flaunting around "am i cooked or cooking" is so smart, and of course anyone who denies what you say has nothing solid to back up their arguments, how can they be solid when you deny them?
@SigmaAmarooX Yes, cuz flaunting around "am i cooked or cooking" is so smart, and of course anyone who denies what you say has nothing solid to back up their arguments, how can they be solid when you deny them?
ME deny what? you're the one denying what i said, I continued the conversation, argued, and you just indirectly told me that I don't have a brain and left it at that. There's no way out of that buddy, you ain't gaslighting me into thinking I'm the one who ignored what the other party was saying when it's obviously you who did that. Got to a point where you couldn't back yourself up so you resorted to insulting me.
you're going by the rule of "if you're losing an argument then just start insulting the other party, none of their arguments are viable if you discredit them as people" right?
| @SigmaAmarooX SigmaAmarooX said: and you just indirectly told me that I don't have a brain and left it at that. Yes, after you denied 3 post of mine backed up with reasoning claiming what i said was untrue |
squeekeez said: yeah I missed where you said manga, so could you tell me the chapter where Ruby supposedly said this? I'm just gonna add that "Ruby" already asked "Aqua" to marry him, in their previous lives at the beginning of the 1st episode. |
| Suprised Merve2love didn'T post here it's just the type of woke moralist stuff she likes. |
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DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX
Yes, after you denied 3 post of mine backed up with reasoning claiming what i said was untrue
@SigmaAmarooX
SigmaAmarooX said:
and you just indirectly told me that I don't have a brain and left it at that.
and you just indirectly told me that I don't have a brain and left it at that.
Yes, after you denied 3 post of mine backed up with reasoning claiming what i said was untrue
bro what!? did you just call arguing "denying"? Do you realize what you just said?
| @SigmaAmarooX You made an argument, i made an argument, the 2 arguments are the exact opposites of eachother, so technically each one denies the other |
JoeChip said: Suprised Merve2love didn'T post here it's just the type of woke moralist stuff she likes. Cursed idea, she might burn this topic to a crisp. |
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DigiCat said:
@SigmaAmarooX You made an argument, i made an argument, the 2 arguments are the exact opposites of eachother, so technically each one denies the other
@SigmaAmarooX You made an argument, i made an argument, the 2 arguments are the exact opposites of eachother, so technically each one denies the other
great bro, you discovered ARGUING. What's your point G?
Im just gonna sum up everything that happened so far with bullet points so it's easier for you to follow.
● I say something.
■You dont feel the same about that something, so you argue that it isn't right.
●I argue back, with my own reasoning.
■You argue back, with your own reasoning.
●I do the same thing
■You do the same thing
●I do it again
■You dont have any more arguments so you result to just insulting me
●I point that out and say that you just denied everything I said last time without providing reasoning this time around
■You then proceed to say that I also denied everything you said.
●I'm shoked at what you said
■You elaborate by saying that I denied what you said apparently by just arguing, holding my point.
Don't you see the problem here?
| @SigmaAmarooX What more arguments do you want? You claimed that never meeting your siblings makes them strangers, do you know how healthy functional family ties work? Do you know how fast the bond between siblings can be rekindled as if it has been there forever? The cases you say are "not the same" are cases in which one or both siblings are mentally unwell |
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