| Mushoku Tensei is often hailed as one of the best isekai anime, yet its release structure remains divided into multiple parts rather than opting for a single continuous season of 24 episodes. Perhaps consolidating it into full 24-episode seasons would provide viewers with a more cohesive and satisfying viewing experience. |
Nekonuya said: That is true but the reasons why anime seasons are sometimes split into two parts instead of being continuous 24 episodes season is because it allows for better scheduling and planning for studios and it also gives them time to work on another season if they have it planned ahead of time without rushing it ..or sometimes internal struggles Marketing is also another main reason By splitting they create anticipation among viewers.it helps to promote the series sometimes and sometimes attract new viewers on different seasons like fall or spring summer etc ..it helps the studio make a better earning to support their work...And also make a new season without being pressurised too much I see your points about the benefits of splitting seasons into two parts, especially regarding scheduling and marketing strategies. While it does have its advantages, I personally lean towards the preference of having a continuous 24-episode season for the sake of a more immersive viewing experience. However, I understand how different approaches cater to various audience preferences and support studios in their endeavors. |
Anime_Skaddiel said: Itsmechinmoy said: Mushoku Tensei is often hailed as one of the best isekai anime, yet its release structure remains divided into multiple parts rather than opting for a single continuous season of 24 episodes. Perhaps consolidating it into full 24-episode seasons would provide viewers with a more cohesive and satisfying viewing experience. You can't ask those things from a dead production 🤣. Half the producers left, staff left. Bind played around with Onimai while Mushoku Tensei was shafted. It's still running because there are some passionate people left behind. It's really disheartening to learn about the struggles the production team has faced, especially with key members leaving and the challenges with resources. It's truly a testament to the passion and dedication of those remaining that they're keeping the project going. Here's hoping their hard work pays off, and Mushoku Tensei can continue to shine despite the difficulties. |
Otakupervert890 said: @Itsmechinmoy with how understaffed the industry is the cour will be split more and more and 24 in a row will continue to become a rarity it's also noted that they outsource a lot so if some production committee decide to do everything for the sake of creative control then obligated some sacrifice will be made and by the way it's not new gakusen Toshi asterisk did it in 2015 and re:zero season 2 in 2021 just for those I remember I think Gate too and bokuben it was announced as split cour. It's how the industry is and with the population of japan shrinking every year it's gonna be the norm until the industry find enough people to cater to his basis need which we are far far away from it now. It's really concerning to hear about the struggles the anime industry is facing with staffing shortages. Learning about how it's impacting the release schedules of shows like Mushoku Tensei is quite sobering. Your insight into past examples like Gakusen Toshi Asterisk and Re:Zero Season 2 really puts it into perspective. It's tough to see such talented teams stretched thin like this. Hopefully, the industry can find ways to address these challenges and ensure a sustainable future for anime production. |
| I can't wait but the affection towards a series that usually split the 2 cour will usually go down. Fans usually keep the hype but just as they did the 1st part, they botched it quite a lot iirc. We need better adaptations. However, you can't keep a hype that's not faithful to the material source. |
CrazyButNot4UFeb 11, 3:36 AM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
ghier said: Nekonuya said: That is true but the reasons why anime seasons are sometimes split into two parts instead of being continuous 24 episodes season is because it allows for better scheduling and planning for studios and it also gives them time to work on another season if they have it planned ahead of time without rushing it ..or sometimes internal struggles Marketing is also another main reason By splitting they create anticipation among viewers.it helps to promote the series sometimes and sometimes attract new viewers on different seasons like fall or spring summer etc ..it helps the studio make a better earning to support their work...And also make a new season without being pressured too much Seems fair, so long as they don’t adopt the Attack on Titan final season approach If they took the aot approach then most probably 30% of the users who watch mushoku tensei will drop it |
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I just think of this as season 4 in my head, that way I'm not bothered by the release schedule.
| @Zimzky well if we calculate like that then it will have more or within 6-7 seasons |
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Itsmechinmoy said:
@Zimzky well if we calculate like that then it will have more or within 6-7 seasons
@Zimzky well if we calculate like that then it will have more or within 6-7 seasons
That's more than fine with me.
The statistics provided by MAL show that Mushoku Tensei's second season has seen a decline in engagement with each subsequent part. For instance, in the initial season, 1,280,589 users added it to their lists, with 962,872 completing it, and an overall rating of 8.37. However, for Season 1 Part 2, the numbers paint a different picture. Part one had 888,492 users adding it to their lists, with 691,968 completing it and a rating of 8.68, while part 2 only had 888,492 users adding it to their lists and 691,968 completing it, with a rating of 8.68 as well. Yet, for Season 2, there's a notable drop in engagement, with only 500,045 adding it to their lists and merely 304,444 completing it, despite a rating of 8.29. This decline raises questions about the effectiveness of the fragmented release schedule. Perhaps reverting to a cohesive season format could help maintain viewer interest and ensure a more consistent experience. |
| Hell no. Can barely bring up the strengh to follow 12 Episodes of this...24 would make me straight up not watch it. |
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Itsmechinmoy said:
The statistics provided by MAL show that Mushoku Tensei's second season has seen a decline in engagement with each subsequent part. For instance, in the initial season, 1,280,589 users added it to their lists, with 962,872 completing it, and an overall rating of 8.37. However, for Season 1 Part 2, the numbers paint a different picture. Part one had 888,492 users adding it to their lists, with 691,968 completing it and a rating of 8.68, while part 2 only had 888,492 users adding it to their lists and 691,968 completing it, with a rating of 8.68 as well. Yet, for Season 2, there's a notable drop in engagement, with only 500,045 adding it to their lists and merely 304,444 completing it, despite a rating of 8.29. This decline raises questions about the effectiveness of the fragmented release schedule. Perhaps reverting to a cohesive season format could help maintain viewer interest and ensure a more consistent experience.
The statistics provided by MAL show that Mushoku Tensei's second season has seen a decline in engagement with each subsequent part. For instance, in the initial season, 1,280,589 users added it to their lists, with 962,872 completing it, and an overall rating of 8.37. However, for Season 1 Part 2, the numbers paint a different picture. Part one had 888,492 users adding it to their lists, with 691,968 completing it and a rating of 8.68, while part 2 only had 888,492 users adding it to their lists and 691,968 completing it, with a rating of 8.68 as well. Yet, for Season 2, there's a notable drop in engagement, with only 500,045 adding it to their lists and merely 304,444 completing it, despite a rating of 8.29. This decline raises questions about the effectiveness of the fragmented release schedule. Perhaps reverting to a cohesive season format could help maintain viewer interest and ensure a more consistent experience.
Dr. Stone season 1 has 1,2 million completed, while season 2 has under 700k. Sure there might be some merit to your statistics but you can't say it's all because of the way the seasons are split.
I have a sneaking suspicion that plenty of people decided to not watch season 2 because a certain toxic part of the fandom decided to spread the word that season 2 was all about Rudeus trying fix his dick. People are sheep. They hear something and they blindly believe it.
Then there are the people who thinks season 2 had abysmal animation so they drop the show between parts for that, because we all know an anime is only as good as it's animation.
There could be plenty of reasons, maybe even a mix of all three plus more, but all we can do is speculate.
Zimzky said: r. Stone season 1 has 1,2 million completed, while season 2 has under 700k. Sure there might be some merit to your statistics but you can't say it's all because of the way the seasons are split. I have a sneaking suspicion that plenty of people decided to not watch season 2 because a certain toxic part of the fandom decided to spread the word that season 2 was all about Rudeus trying fix his dick. People are sheep. They hear something and they blindly believe it. Then there are the people who thinks season 2 had abysmal animation so they drop the show between parts for that, because we all know an anime is only as good as it's animation. There could be plenty of reasons, maybe even a mix of all three plus more, but all we can do is speculate. Ah, I see where you're coming from. Comparing Mushoku Tensei's stats to Dr. Stone's certainly adds another layer to the discussion. It's true, there could be multiple factors at play here, from rumors spreading like wildfire to concerns about animation quality. It's like trying to untangle a messy plot twist in a suspenseful thriller! But hey, at the end of the day, all we can do is speculate and try to piece together the clues. |
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12 + 12 = 24
24 == 24
I see no problem, better to have some gap to rewatch previous seasons and to continue further.
24 == 24
I see no problem, better to have some gap to rewatch previous seasons and to continue further.
iDre4M said: I see no problem, better to have some gap to rewatch previous seasons and to continue further. You make a fair point about the convenience of having a gap between seasons for rewatching and anticipation. However, it's worth considering the statistics that show a decline in viewer engagement over subsequent parts. While the math may add up, the data suggests that there could be drawbacks to this approach. Perhaps finding a balance between the benefits of a gap and maintaining viewer interest could be a solution worth exploring. |
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You know, the fun and the profit will lose more if they release full 24 episodes.
Also, the studio have workers, who have a life to live(I mean make you a season with 24 episodes, without pause).
Is good they make this way, because is a win-win, we get the episodes, they got a pause.
Also, the studio have workers, who have a life to live(I mean make you a season with 24 episodes, without pause).
Is good they make this way, because is a win-win, we get the episodes, they got a pause.
EasyAdv said: know, the fun and the profit will lose more if they release full 24 episodes. Also, the studio have workers, who have a life to live(I mean make you a season with 24 episodes, without pause). Is good they make this way, because is a win-win, we get the episodes, they got a pause. While it's understandable to consider the workload of the studio and the benefits of having breaks between seasons, it's essential to acknowledge the data showing a decrease in viewer engagement with each part of the series. Balancing the needs of the studio and maintaining audience interest is crucial for the long-term success of the show. |
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Hell no. Can barely bring up the strengh to follow 12 Episodes of this...24 would make me straight up not watch it.
Merve2Love said: Hell no. Can barely bring up the strengh to follow 12 Episodes of this...24 would make me straight up not watch it. Get where you're coming from! Wrapping your head around 12 episodes can be a feat in itself, let alone doubling it. We're all about those bite-sized, action-packed anime experiences, like Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen. But hey, everyone's got their anime flavour, and that's what makes it fun... |
ItsmechinmoyFeb 13, 4:57 AM
Otaku_4511 said: Because otherwise you basically get low quality animation and you'll still be complaining. It's understandable to have concerns about animation quality, especially with longer series. However, it's worth noting that there are examples like Frieren and Apothecary Diaries that demonstrate how longer anime can still maintain excellent animation standards. It's all about finding that balance between episode count and production quality. |
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@Itsmechinmoy it's possible but the 2 you mentioned are very rare exceptions that we basically never happen nowadays also it's probably for the best cuz Studio bind is going through some management issues(see how we have different directors for 2 separate cours)so lets just pray that they can adapt the source material well in S2 P2
rolopolo78 said: Itsmechinmoy it's possible but the 2 you mentioned are very rare exceptions that we basically never happen nowadays also it's probably for the best cuz Studio bind is going through some management issues(see how we have different directors for 2 separate cours)so lets just pray that they can adapt the source material well in S2 P2 You make a valid point about Frieren and Apothecary Diaries being rare exceptions when it comes to maintaining high animation quality in longer series. And it's concerning to hear about Studio Bind's management issues, especially evident with different directors for separate cours. Let's hope they can overcome these challenges and do justice to the source material in S2 P2. Fingers crossed for a smooth and satisfying adaptation! |
GRPAttackOnAnime said: Now, there are many reasons as why they might not go for a complete 24 episodes in one go but here's what I think. Mushoku Tensei has had a lot of quality variations in its different parts. Season 1 Part 1 felt different to Part 2 and very very different to Season 2 Part 1. Hence, one can come to conclusion that there is an inconsistent quality throughout the production. If it were to be 24 episodes in one season itself, the production might suffer more inconsistency as time will become much more constricted and quality crunch can become a huge issue. You bring up a valid point about the quality variations in different parts of Mushoku Tensei. It's true that Season 1 Part 1 felt distinct from Part 2, and Season 2 Part 1 introduced yet another change in tone or style. This inconsistency could indeed pose challenges if condensed into a single 24-episode season. Tighter production schedules could exacerbate quality issues, leading to a potential decline in overall consistency. It's a delicate balance between quantity and quality, and ensuring a consistent standard throughout the series is crucial for maintaining viewer engagement and satisfaction. |
GRPAttackOnAnime said: Itsmechinmoy said: You bring up a valid point about the quality variations in different parts of Mushoku Tensei. It's true that Season 1 Part 1 felt distinct from Part 2, and Season 2 Part 1 introduced yet another change in tone or style. This inconsistency could indeed pose challenges if condensed into a single 24-episode season. Tighter production schedules could exacerbate quality issues, leading to a potential decline in overall consistency. It's a delicate balance between quantity and quality, and ensuring a consistent standard throughout the series is crucial for maintaining viewer engagement and satisfaction. I am glad that you understood it. It is hard to make people understand complex topics on internet. Thanks for taking the while to read it and comprehend it. Ah, how could I forget the privilege of being educated by the internet's foremost genius? Thanks for the crash course, Professor Know-It-All! And hey, breaking down complex topics is clearly your forte—I'll be sure to enroll in your online seminar series. As for the 12-episode split, brilliant move, indeed! Who needs a full 24-episode season when you can stretch the suspense and keep fans on the edge of their seats with twice the anticipation? Clearly, I'm just a mere mortal in the presence of your internet wisdom. Keep enlightening us, oh great one! |
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Itsmechinmoy said:
Ah, how could I forget the privilege of being educated by the internet's foremost genius? Thanks for the crash course, Professor Know-It-All! And hey, breaking down complex topics is clearly your forte—I'll be sure to enroll in your online seminar series. As for the 12-episode split, brilliant move, indeed! Who needs a full 24-episode season when you can stretch the suspense and keep fans on the edge of their seats with twice the anticipation? Clearly, I'm just a mere mortal in the presence of your internet wisdom. Keep enlightening us, oh great one!
GRPAttackOnAnime said:
I am glad that you understood it. It is hard to make people understand complex topics on internet. Thanks for taking the while to read it and comprehend it.
I am glad that you understood it. It is hard to make people understand complex topics on internet. Thanks for taking the while to read it and comprehend it.
Ah, how could I forget the privilege of being educated by the internet's foremost genius? Thanks for the crash course, Professor Know-It-All! And hey, breaking down complex topics is clearly your forte—I'll be sure to enroll in your online seminar series. As for the 12-episode split, brilliant move, indeed! Who needs a full 24-episode season when you can stretch the suspense and keep fans on the edge of their seats with twice the anticipation? Clearly, I'm just a mere mortal in the presence of your internet wisdom. Keep enlightening us, oh great one!
oh come on, I thought I was being nice. It was the words of gratitude. But I guess people on internet can't take thank you for an answer.
| Oh, my apologies, Professor of Gratitude! How could I have missed your generous offering of thanks? Clearly, I must have been blinded by the sheer brilliance of your enlightenment. Thank you, oh wise one, for gracing us mere mortals with your benevolence. Please, do continue bestowing your wisdom upon us, for we are unworthy of such kindness. |
| they do split cours more often this days to have better production schedules and maintain the hype between cours there is anime overproduction this days so talented staff are spread thin too |
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they do split cours more often this days to have better production schedules and maintain the hype between cours
there is anime overproduction this days so talented staff are spread thin too
there is anime overproduction this days so talented staff are spread thin too
deg said: ore often this days to have better production schedules and maintain the hype between cours there is anime overproduction this days so talented staff are spread thin too You're absolutely right about the benefits of splitting cours for better production schedules and sustained hype. However, it's worth noting that this approach can also lead to disjointed storytelling and a loss of momentum between parts. Finding the right balance between production efficiency and maintaining a cohesive viewing experience is key in navigating the complexities of the modern anime industry. |
Zimzky said: DEMSpirit said: @Zimzky doesn't really have anything to do with that. By season 2, people realize mushoku tensei will be a slow burn show about rudy living to old age. That is enough for anyone to lose interest. For a series to truly leave its mark, it needs to get better and better Who's to say it won't get better and better? People just lack patience nowadays. I for one am along for the ride. he's not wrong though, most people lose interest if it has many seasons, except few like aot. If you check mal and anilist too you'll find a decline of audience from S1 part 2 to season 2 part 1. |
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DEMSpirit said:
@Zimzky it is not going to making headlines that is for sure. Very few animes get exponentially better towards the end.
@Zimzky it is not going to making headlines that is for sure. Very few animes get exponentially better towards the end.
Only time will tell. It could end up being the greatest anime ever and I still think people will not watch it because of the "pedophilic nature" of it.
| meanwhile they are the same people who watch cp in dark wb |
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@Itsmechinmoy Ah but Frieren's being handled by Madhouse, which is quite an old studio with decades of experience in handling high quality projects plus there is very little focus on fast moving action sequences (at least from the amount of episodes I have seen. there has been no action/fights)
Studio Bind falls UNDER White Fox and being managed by Egg Firm which is also a relatively new planning firm.
Every project has different timelines and planning.
Having said that, you'd think a veteran company like Toei would understand that but just look at the disaster that was one their biggest IPs, Dragon Ball Super (TV 2015).
MT's schedule also probably worked out better for the staff this way.
Studio Bind falls UNDER White Fox and being managed by Egg Firm which is also a relatively new planning firm.
Every project has different timelines and planning.
Having said that, you'd think a veteran company like Toei would understand that but just look at the disaster that was one their biggest IPs, Dragon Ball Super (TV 2015).
MT's schedule also probably worked out better for the staff this way.
Otaku_4511 said: Ah but Frieren's being handled by Madhouse, which is quite an old studio with decades of experience in handling high quality projects plus there is very little focus on fast moving action sequences (at least from the amount of episodes I have seen. there has been no action/fights) Studio Bind falls UNDER White Fox and being managed by Egg Firm which is also a relatively new planning firm. Every project has different timelines and planning. Having said that, you'd think a veteran company like Toei would understand that but just look at the disaster that was one their biggest IPs, Dragon Ball Super (TV 2015). MT's schedule also probably worked out better for the staff this way. Ah, you bring up some valid points about the differences between studios and their approaches to handling projects. Madhouse's extensive experience and focus on quality certainly set a high standard, especially with projects like Frieren. And you're right about Studio Bind's affiliation with White Fox and Egg Firm, which may impact their workflow and planning process. It's true that each project has its own unique timeline and challenges to overcome. While a veteran studio like Toei might be expected to handle these complexities with ease, we've seen even the biggest IPs, like Dragon Ball Super, face their fair share of challenges. And yes, considering the well-being of the staff is crucial in any production. Perhaps Mushoku Tensei's schedule was a strategic choice to ensure a smoother workflow and better work-life balance for the team. It's a complex industry, but here's hoping for the best outcome for all involved! |
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@Itsmechinmoy I mean that is just a given to happen. Like even aot, compare the difference between the first season and final season audience.. pretty big difference. It' just a given where the sequel will always have less audience(or Ig members for MAL's case?) than the prequel
rolopolo78 said: You make a solid point about the natural decline in audience or MAL members over the course of a series, especially when comparing the excitement surrounding the first season to the later ones. It's a phenomenon we've seen with big hitters like Attack on Titan, where the initial buzz gradually wanes as the series progresses. It's just par for the course in the world of sequels.I mean that is just a given to happen. Like even aot, compare the difference between the first season and final season audience.. pretty big difference. It' just a given where the sequel will always have less audience(or Ig members for MAL's case?) than the prequel |
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