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Nov 14, 2023 10:48 AM
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article https://animehunch.com/jjk-s2-animators-reach-breaking-point-at-mappa/

Jujutsu Kaisen animators undergo a collective meltdown in the past few hours on Twitter, talking about the production crash and their poor working conditions. Staff requested a delay but was denied a delay by the production committee. Episodes are being completed mere hours before being aired

Ep 17 will still look good as it has a stacked list of animators but from then on it’s not looking good. For those wondering why can’t they just take a break and delay the episodes. There are multiple factors included in this. Firstly the production committee is made up of many parties including TOHO and Sheuisha. So unless the majority vote to delay nothing will happen. Secondly, it costs a lot to delay, rebooking airing slots, redoing marketing strategies, BD releases etc. I’m not trying to justify why they haven’t delayed, just trying to state the reasons as to why one might not want to delay.

more here https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/comments/17vairi/jujutsu_kaisen_production_meltdown_continues/
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/17va4qp/jujutsu_kaisen_animators_have_a_collective/

and more
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1724490186120180003
https://twitter.com/cjAus101723/status/1724492467934765067

Hell nah nothing is gonna get delayed business partners and board members are the only priority. It took d*sney 10 yrs to start feeling the repercussion I wonder how long this small company will last as how it is universally recognized among audience right now https://twitter.com/hakuoishii/status/1717798303348437105 this is hakuyu go and here is his works https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=135110
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Nov 14, 2023 10:58 AM
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Craptastic stretch incoming, sadly. Unless a miracle happens.
Not the animators' fault. Just Manabu the CEO being a dick as usual.
Deadass hope MAPPA files for bankruptcy after this soon.
RyuseishunNov 14, 2023 11:07 AM
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Its soo over for mappa studio the hell schedule is finally showing sighs quite unfortunate
Nov 14, 2023 11:05 AM
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Could someone explain why the last episodes are going to be crap? Or is this more nonsense from the haters. This season has been very enjoyable for me and I’m sure most people, the new animation style has been different but interesting and certainly stunning to boot.
Nov 14, 2023 11:06 AM
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probably those eps barely or aren't even in production yet. Imagine if mappa decided to broadcast the entire storyboards of those eps
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It's crazy that the schedule is so shit when they had an additional 3 weeks in-between Hidden Inventory and Shibuya. At this point, I wish they'd just shut it down
Nov 14, 2023 11:07 AM
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I dont think I've ever seen animators in such multitudes collectively complain this much about a production and that says a lot. The mismanagement at that company currently is laughable. https://twitter.com/MappaSakuga/status/1724493908317487358
Nov 14, 2023 11:12 AM
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I dont think I've ever seen animators in such multitudes collectively complain this much about a production and that says a lot. The mismanagement at that company currently is laughable. https://twitter.com/MappaSakuga/status/1724493908317487358
@deg There were always problems in the 2nd department and it never got better, it got worse. The 1st department went well again except for Jigokuraku.
Nov 14, 2023 11:45 AM
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are Twitter (oh sorry I mean X) threads enough to draw conclusions now
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Mappa has had its plate full for so long, finally seeing the animators wake up from being overworked. Sad to see none of them probably haven’t seen daylight in years haha (hyperbole).
Nov 14, 2023 12:20 PM
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Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?
Nov 14, 2023 12:21 PM
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Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?
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Nov 14, 2023 12:21 PM
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Ryuseishun said:
Craptastic stretch incoming, sadly. Unless a miracle happens.
Not the animators' fault. Just Manabu the CEO being a dick as usual.
Deadass hope MAPPA files for bankruptcy after this soon.

Just for file bankruptcy and let the workers finally touch some grass
Nov 14, 2023 12:23 PM
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FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?


If you know how it works, why can’t they move to a healthier environment? Bro you didn’t even try to answer the question you just shat on him.

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They really should have made the second half of this season split-cour. Maybe then the animation staff wouldn't be suffering so much.

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FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?


Its a job like any other and before starting a project they could've left because they basically knew what they were getting into with Mappas bad record when it comes to treating animators and tight schedules. What exactly are you on about?

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MineFord_gurme said:
FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?


If you know how it works, why can’t they move to a healthier environment? Bro you didn’t even try to answer the question you just shat on him.

Because they're a fucking animation studio. That's why. They're not responsible for this in any way - THEY ARE THE FUCKING CONTRACTOR STUDIO WHO MUST TO ADAPT THE TITLE.
It's all the fault of the production committee of the project, which put absolutely fucking deadlines, and animators have to suffer because of this. But of course, of course - it's all animation studio and CEO of MAPPA fault, exactly)))


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Well I think the most fucked show will be csm. There will be no animators willing to work on it
Nov 14, 2023 12:38 PM
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MineFord_gurme said:
MysticMochi said:

If you know how it works, why can’t they move to a healthier environment? Bro you didn’t even try to answer the question you just shat on him.

Because they're a fucking animation studio. That's why. They're not responsible for this in any way - THEY ARE THE FUCKING CONTRACTOR STUDIO WHO MUST TO ADAPT THE TITLE.
It's all the fault of the production committee of the project, which put absolutely fucking deadlines, and animators have to suffer because of this. But of course, of course - it's all animation studio and CEO of MAPPA fault, exactly)))

You again said whole lotta nothing about my question.
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MysticMochi said:
Mappa has had its plate full for so long, finally seeing the animators wake up from being overworked. Sad to see none of them probably haven’t seen daylight in years haha (hyperbole).

it's not that they're "waking up", they had to sign NDAs that didn't allow them to talk about how bad it was, that's how bad it is
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FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?


If you know how it works, why can’t they move to a healthier environment? Bro you didn’t even try to answer the question you just shat on him.

Because they're a fucking animation studio. That's why. They're not responsible for this in any way - THEY ARE THE FUCKING CONTRACTOR STUDIO WHO MUST TO ADAPT THE TITLE.
It's all the fault of the production committee of the project, which put absolutely fucking deadlines, and animators have to suffer because of this. But of course, of course - it's all animation studio and CEO of MAPPA fault, exactly)))


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@MineFord_gurme This is very much the fault of MAPPA, more specifically on Otsuka, for this kind of terrible management. When you look at the general release between S1-0-S2, they would´ve had more than enough time to make a decently comfortable schedule to make S2. But Otsuka's decision to take CSM entirely on his own will and have it release sandwhiched between 0 and S2 with a lot of staff divided between the two fucked things up.
Nov 14, 2023 12:43 PM
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MineFord_gurme said:
FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?


If you know how it works, why can’t they move to a healthier environment? Bro you didn’t even try to answer the question you just shat on him.

Because they're a fucking animation studio. That's why. They're not responsible for this in any way - THEY ARE THE FUCKING CONTRACTOR STUDIO WHO MUST TO ADAPT THE TITLE.
It's all the fault of the production committee of the project, which put absolutely fucking deadlines, and animators have to suffer because of this. But of course, of course - it's all animation studio and CEO of MAPPA fault, exactly)))


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@MineFord_gurme nah MAPPA marketed themselves as the fastest studio that makes anime so obviously the production committee will have high expectations for them and just give them short production time or schedule, now tweets are saying MAPPA requested delay for the production but the production committee declined their request since MAPPA again marketed themselves as the fastest studio to make anime
Nov 14, 2023 12:54 PM

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How many episodes are left?
This means that those will have questionable animation?
Nov 14, 2023 12:55 PM
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How many episodes are left?
This means that those will have questionable animation?
@cAbaddon https://twitter.com/cjAus101723/status/1724492467934765067
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deg said:
@MineFord_gurme nah MAPPA marketed themselves as the fastest studio that makes anime so obviously the production committee will have high expectations for them and just give them short production time or schedule, now tweets are saying MAPPA requested delay for the production but the production committee declined their request since MAPPA again marketed themselves as the fastest studio to make anime

And? And what? That doesn't say, exactly, anything. In fact that they advertised themselves in this way means absolutely nothing. They don't set their own deadlines (hell nah, it even sounds an absolutely absurd) and allocate funds. They don't have that privilege at all - they're a contracting studio, and unlike Production I.G who acts as both an adaptation studio and producers at the same time - MAPPA is ONLY an adaptation studio, that's all.
Nov 14, 2023 12:59 PM
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@MineFord_gurme nah MAPPA marketed themselves as the fastest studio that makes anime so obviously the production committee will have high expectations for them and just give them short production time or schedule, now tweets are saying MAPPA requested delay for the production but the production committee declined their request since MAPPA again marketed themselves as the fastest studio to make anime

And? And what? That doesn't say, exactly, anything. In fact that they advertised themselves in this way means absolutely nothing. They don't set their own deadlines (hell nah, it even sounds an absolutely absurd) and allocate funds. They don't have that privilege at all - they're a contracting studio, and unlike Production I.G who acts as both an adaptation studio and producers at the same time - MAPPA is ONLY an adaptation studio, that's all.
@MineFord_gurme you the CEO of MAPPA promise or branded yourself as the fastest studio to make anime guess what will be expected from you by your customers the production committee
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Could someone explain why the last episodes are going to be crap? Or is this more nonsense from the haters. This season has been very enjoyable for me and I’m sure most people, the new animation style has been different but interesting and certainly stunning to boot.

TERRIBLE deadlines, like snk s4p1 level or even worse for the last episodes, the schedule have been insanely bad since episode 8 and now the show is falling apart. delay soon sadly
Nov 14, 2023 1:04 PM

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He is informing us?


I was looking for reasons to read the manga and this is the best one. If it is going to be low quality, I'll just read it all at once after this week's episode.
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Lol the reddit thread got removed. r/anime mods paid off by mappa?!?! :tinfoilhat:

Hope the animators do something to get better conditions, but I have a feeling mappa would just fire them and hire cheap labor from overseas to finish it lule
Nov 14, 2023 1:11 PM
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Lol the reddit thread got removed. r/anime mods paid off by mappa?!?! :tinfoilhat:

Hope the animators do something to get better conditions, but I have a feeling mappa would just fire them and hire cheap labor from overseas to finish it lule
@Mirai yep its strange for them to delete the thread
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@MineFord_gurme you the CEO of MAPPA promise or branded yourself as the fastest studio to make anime guess what will be expected from you by your customers the production committee
@deg When and where did Mappa brand itself as the fastest studio? I was curious because I don't remember anything like that at all.
Nov 14, 2023 1:14 PM
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@deg When and where did Mappa brand itself as the fastest studio? I was curious because I don't remember anything like that at all.
@feyyazu35 https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1724498340862443648
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He is informing us?


I was looking for reasons to read the manga and this is the best one. If it is going to be low quality, I'll just read it all at once after this week's episode.
@manelist1

My man, you're right.

I want to read up on the news, via random MaL-Guy. My bad^^
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This is the result of the stupid #ThankYouMAPPA the fanboys made trend on social media sites after every off-model AoT episode. Now MAPPA got a big head and think they can do anything because they never got any backlash for mediocrity. Instead, the fans praised mediocrity. You cannot totally blame MAPPA for this as this was caused by the stupid fanboys who made MAPPA overconfident by praising mediocre work.
Nov 14, 2023 1:48 PM
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damn a collective breakdown of 2 people on x 😩😩😩😩
Nov 14, 2023 1:51 PM

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My man, you're right.

I want to read up on the news, via random MaL-Guy. My bad^^
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Well if you don't want to read it there is no problem, but there is some of us that do.
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noooo!! I NEED CSM season 2. I hope they can resolve everything and the employees can get some well deserved rest. They need to back off the production speed or something.
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Well I think the most fucked show will be csm. There will be no animators willing to work on it

I know! so disappointing 😔
Nov 14, 2023 2:25 PM

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Pls delay jjk 2 Mr mappa so the episodes can get produced
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at least they got out one of the best animated episodes ever in 16
Nov 14, 2023 2:52 PM

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Ep 17 at least from what staff leaks are saying will still be a strong episode. Everything after though... Seems like TOHO and Sheisha are to blame for the block on MAPPA'S request of a delay in this specific context. Still trash of MAPPA though because this whole situation began when they used the same Production pipeline for CSM and JJK. Spreading only a certain amount of animators thin in less than a year and then covering up the holes by contracting a bunch of webgen and Twitter animators


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Time to post this again!!!
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If it’s so bad, as we are lead to believe, maybe they should quit. I’m sure there are 1,000s of animators in Japan that would love to take their position.

Complaining on social media seems weak and is probably going to get them nowhere, but im sure the MAPPA haters will eat this up
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If it’s so bad, as we are lead to believe, maybe they should quit. I’m sure there are 1,000s of animators in Japan that would love to take their position.

Complaining on social media seems weak and is probably going to get them nowhere, but im sure the MAPPA haters will eat this up
@Todday People don't just quit in the middle of contract. That just hurts future prospects for them. Also add that JJK S2 had a set deadline from TOHO so replacing animators doesn't change anything. The only reason the season looks this good is because these animators are brute forcing their deadlines.


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bruh either im blind, or none of yall care about the alleged "dishuman" and "hellish" work conditions 💀
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FriendlyIncubus said:
Can someone remind me why cant they leave for a studio with healthier environment already instead of crying and complaining on twitter for the past half a year or so?

I’m sure they’ve signed contracts so that there will be financial penalties if they just up and leave and even if they haven’t, what’re they supposed to do if they don’t have a second job lined up? Just take the L and go broke??😭😭 It’s the same reason why most people who work in toxic environments can’t just leave. People need money and if their options are to work like this or be homeless then they don’t rly have a choice.
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Sincerely hope something is shaken up at Mappa. Nothing good will come from working their best talents like dogs.
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We all loose, the animators, Jujutsu Fans, the corporations because the eps dont turn out as good as they could be... this is just mere ignorance for the animators well being.
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