Which anime has the best lore ?
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| Berserk from the choices presented, personally I've always been a sucker for the Nasuverse. |
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| The whole nasuverse has the best lore. |
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The whole nasuverse has the best lore.
@FZREMAKE Yeah, Nasuverse is best. Can't believe it wasn't on the poll.  I'd make my own, but even then One Piece would win. |
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@FZREMAKE Yeah, Nasuverse is best. Can't believe it wasn't on the poll.
I'd make my own, but even then One Piece would win.
I'd make my own, but even then One Piece would win.
| @AnimePedestrian Anyone who thinks that one piece has better lore than nasu clearly doesn't know anything about it. I can't blame them though. Not even the big fans know everything about the whole nasuverse. |
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@AnimePedestrian
Anyone who thinks that one piece has better lore than nasu clearly doesn't know anything about it. I can't blame them though. Not even the big fans know everything about the whole nasuverse.
Anyone who thinks that one piece has better lore than nasu clearly doesn't know anything about it. I can't blame them though. Not even the big fans know everything about the whole nasuverse.
| @FZREMAKE Yeah, the Nasuverse is deep in terms of lore. Like stuff going back to Notes such as Type ORT or where specific story's are within the wider timelines. Such as Strange Fake and so on. As someone who's only played a few of the games, and watched most the anime, read two of the smaller light novels, I'm by no means an expert. But it makes it one of the most interesting series to follow and get into as you always find out something new. Weather it be a male King Arthur, the difference between the Fate and Tsukihime worlds, if Astolfo truly is best girl. Always something. It certainly my go to for lore. The only series which feels sort of similar is Mobile Suit Gundam - as it also has multiple timelines which can get pretty complicated. But Gundam (and no disrespect meant when I say this) often feels outside of the work by Tomino himself (or with his involvement) a little artificial and some of the spin off stuff feels sort of ancillary. But with Fate, even something like Fate/Extra or Fate/Apocrypha still allows us to view a character from a different perspective, and allow us to learn about different aspects of the world whilst telling a new story with new plots, character motivations and so on. |
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Kingdom
If u read the manga, the amount of worldbuilding and lore is mindblowing
The anime is getting there with the lore but is not quite on par.
If u read the manga, the amount of worldbuilding and lore is mindblowing
The anime is getting there with the lore but is not quite on par.
| @Adster123 because its based off real life chinese history lol |
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| Poll is kind of limiting. Mushoku Tensei has pretty good lore, the world feels alive and moves with or without our main character. |
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| I have to say that Kingdom has the best lore I have seen in anime. |
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| I love seeing people's answers here. Looks like they don't even know what lore means and straight up giving their opinions on said titles. |
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@FZREMAKE Yeah, the Nasuverse is deep in terms of lore. Like stuff going back to Notes such as Type ORT or where specific story's are within the wider timelines. Such as Strange Fake and so on.
As someone who's only played a few of the games, and watched most the anime, read two of the smaller light novels, I'm by no means an expert. But it makes it one of the most interesting series to follow and get into as you always find out something new. Weather it be a male King Arthur, the difference between the Fate and Tsukihime worlds, if Astolfo truly is best girl. Always something.
It certainly my go to for lore. The only series which feels sort of similar is Mobile Suit Gundam - as it also has multiple timelines which can get pretty complicated. But Gundam (and no disrespect meant when I say this) often feels outside of the work by Tomino himself (or with his involvement) a little artificial and some of the spin off stuff feels sort of ancillary.
But with Fate, even something like Fate/Extra or Fate/Apocrypha still allows us to view a character from a different perspective, and allow us to learn about different aspects of the world whilst telling a new story with new plots, character motivations and so on.
As someone who's only played a few of the games, and watched most the anime, read two of the smaller light novels, I'm by no means an expert. But it makes it one of the most interesting series to follow and get into as you always find out something new. Weather it be a male King Arthur, the difference between the Fate and Tsukihime worlds, if Astolfo truly is best girl. Always something.
It certainly my go to for lore. The only series which feels sort of similar is Mobile Suit Gundam - as it also has multiple timelines which can get pretty complicated. But Gundam (and no disrespect meant when I say this) often feels outside of the work by Tomino himself (or with his involvement) a little artificial and some of the spin off stuff feels sort of ancillary.
But with Fate, even something like Fate/Extra or Fate/Apocrypha still allows us to view a character from a different perspective, and allow us to learn about different aspects of the world whilst telling a new story with new plots, character motivations and so on.
| @AnimePedestrian I agree with what you said. That's exactly how I view it as well. I haven't even watched all the spin offs or played all the games but I feel like they are not necessary to enjoy the anime. The interest in its lore develops itself once you watch a single fate anime. I haven't watched a single gundam anime but from what I know, I can agree that every entry feels different from the others. That's not entirely true for nasuverse. Everything feels connected in some ways or the other. |
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@AnimePedestrian
I agree with what you said. That's exactly how I view it as well. I haven't even watched all the spin offs or played all the games but I feel like they are not necessary to enjoy the anime. The interest in its lore develops itself once you watch a single fate anime. I haven't watched a single gundam anime but from what I know, I can agree that every entry feels different from the others. That's not entirely true for nasuverse. Everything feels connected in some ways or the other.
I agree with what you said. That's exactly how I view it as well. I haven't even watched all the spin offs or played all the games but I feel like they are not necessary to enjoy the anime. The interest in its lore develops itself once you watch a single fate anime. I haven't watched a single gundam anime but from what I know, I can agree that every entry feels different from the others. That's not entirely true for nasuverse. Everything feels connected in some ways or the other.
| @FZREMAKE I've watched most the spin offs, I've not watched the Lord El Melloi special yet. I've even watched the anime that shan't be named (I didn't mind it). Not watched the Garden of Sinner movies yet. But beyond that I'm mostly caught up anime wise, as for the games I've only really played Fate Grand Order up to Observer on Timeless Temple and Extella Link. And I've read a few small LNs in the wider Nasuverse; Coral of the Moon, Notes, Garden of Avalon and have started Fate/Apocrypha.  Also above is the timeline of Gundam, now I've only been chipping my way through UC, but it seems the timeline FC, AC, AW timelines along with the new RC timeline all end up converging with the CC timeline. I have no idea how that works, but that's the Gundam one. Not to mention all the spin off timelines which don't get pulled and connected to the CC timeline.  And people say Fate (and Nasuverse) fans have a confusing mess of a timeline. |
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| The Twelve Kingdoms wins the title for the best lore in anime. Lotgh second. |
| The best lore in anime, is not any one of those options. Frankly, I am going to suggest either The Big O or Galaxy Express 999. MAL still has not separated The Big O into two season, but in season 1 (1999) a full world is developed and a backstory about a corrupt city built within a glass dome, the mysterious fog that covers the landscape and the apparent amnesia everyone seems to suffer from. These first start off as mysterious elements, but they are eventually learned piece by piece all with epic mech fights in between accompanied by a full orchestral score. Season 2 follows much of the same, but it was made almost exclusively for American audiences and the story is a little bit less focused and meandering. This is probably what gives The Big O a 7.50(ish) average, as opposed to something higher for season 1 and lower for season 2 (since the quality drop is almost universally agreed upon. The other anime is Galaxy Express 999 and really you can group Captain Harlock, Queen Millennia and any related sequels and/or spinoffs, since the series goes to great length at establishing continuity and a link between all of the series, along with fleshing out several world's in great detail (and some less so). I would recommend you are to give both a try. |
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@FZREMAKE
I've watched most the spin offs, I've not watched the Lord El Melloi special yet. I've even watched the anime that shan't be named (I didn't mind it). Not watched the Garden of Sinner movies yet. But beyond that I'm mostly caught up anime wise, as for the games I've only really played Fate Grand Order up to Observer on Timeless Temple and Extella Link. And I've read a few small LNs in the wider Nasuverse; Coral of the Moon, Notes, Garden of Avalon and have started Fate/Apocrypha.
Also above is the timeline of Gundam, now I've only been chipping my way through UC, but it seems the timeline FC, AC, AW timelines along with the new RC timeline all end up converging with the CC timeline. I have no idea how that works, but that's the Gundam one.
Not to mention all the spin off timelines which don't get pulled and connected to the CC timeline.
And people say Fate (and Nasuverse) fans have a confusing mess of a timeline.
I've watched most the spin offs, I've not watched the Lord El Melloi special yet. I've even watched the anime that shan't be named (I didn't mind it). Not watched the Garden of Sinner movies yet. But beyond that I'm mostly caught up anime wise, as for the games I've only really played Fate Grand Order up to Observer on Timeless Temple and Extella Link. And I've read a few small LNs in the wider Nasuverse; Coral of the Moon, Notes, Garden of Avalon and have started Fate/Apocrypha.
Also above is the timeline of Gundam, now I've only been chipping my way through UC, but it seems the timeline FC, AC, AW timelines along with the new RC timeline all end up converging with the CC timeline. I have no idea how that works, but that's the Gundam one.
Not to mention all the spin off timelines which don't get pulled and connected to the CC timeline.
And people say Fate (and Nasuverse) fans have a confusing mess of a timeline.
| @AnimePedestrian I am planning to watch all the spin offs in the upcoming holidays hopefully. Grand order was a good game (the waifus are amazing) and KNK movies were astounding for its time. I haven't read many light novels but I got interested in coral of the moon recently so might pick it up. Gundam does seem a bit confusing. People interested in it would still watch it. Nasu still seems a bit more vast. |
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@AnimePedestrian
I am planning to watch all the spin offs in the upcoming holidays hopefully. Grand order was a good game (the waifus are amazing) and KNK movies were astounding for its time. I haven't read many light novels but I got interested in coral of the moon recently so might pick it up.
Gundam does seem a bit confusing. People interested in it would still watch it. Nasu still seems a bit more vast.
I am planning to watch all the spin offs in the upcoming holidays hopefully. Grand order was a good game (the waifus are amazing) and KNK movies were astounding for its time. I haven't read many light novels but I got interested in coral of the moon recently so might pick it up.
Gundam does seem a bit confusing. People interested in it would still watch it. Nasu still seems a bit more vast.
| @FZREMAKE Its likely due to how much older Gundam is. I do wonder why they have so many timelines, I mean some suggest that it isn't a multiverse but multiple calendar systems, with UC being the beginning of this extended timeline of shows and CC being the end. I'm not entirely sure as then there's stuff like Gaia Gear which was a fanfiction written by the original author Tomino after he parted ways with Sunrise due to creative differences. So its very messy.  One thing I'd like to know is if Tomino always intended for this, or if its slowly just developed. Whereas with Nasu it seems from inception he's always been against direct sequels for the most part. Tsukihime and Fate could have existed in the same world, but he wanted there to be that multiverse. Yet with shared elements; the Mages Association, Clocktower, The Holy Church. I'm generally not one for multiverses, the current Star Wars with the 'world between worlds' and Marvel and DC multiverses generally never appealed to me. Yet for some reason Fate's and the wider Nasuverse just sort of clicked. |
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| Aot at first glance seems like it would be filled with lore like the elder scrolls series but in reality it's just monkeys having territorial war. Haven't read berserk. So I will go with rezero, there's still lots to uncover in that world. |
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@Zefyris well, no LNs Or anime/manga are even comparable to owari no chronicle, so... 😅
(Completed 2 arcs of OnC, starting arc3 now...)
(Completed 2 arcs of OnC, starting arc3 now...)
So.. I know you know, but you didn't explain it so others won't get it : -> Both Owari no Chronicle that Vardhand mentioned and Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon that I talked about are the exact same verse, and therefore same lore, just at different point in time, as this author has written stories happening in 5 different "eras" of his verse, starting from a world still similar to our own in 2015 where things behind the scene start to diverge from our normal, day to day world, to millenias in the future where things have gone really crazy after all those accumulated changes across the ages. There's technically 6 eras but only the last 5 are really important so far, and all have at least one series in it : [ERA codename : (series name) explanation]  AHEAD : (Owari no chronicle) happens in our modern 2015 world, when several universes parallel to our own are collapsing into one another, a secret war starts raging behind the scenes between human agencies and other races for who will survive.  EDGE : (Kamigami no inai hoshi de) series . the "Era of gods" that peoples in Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon want to go back to. "Humanity" is leaving Earth and play on the field of gods themselves.  GENESIS : (Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon, Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon NEXT BOX), an era where "humanity" fell from godhood back on an Earth that was left in shamble and pretty much unhabitable for mankind. Series starts hundred of years after the fall, as humanity still strives to get back the technologies they lost that allowed them long ago to "reach the heavens", and had to put in place very unique rules to avoid the whole mix of races and ethnies to wage war on each other in the very small area they all have to cohabit in, while enforcing re-enactment of the past in search of the missing technologies and events to get them. But in the last 30 years, it seems that something has gone horribly wrong, and there are persistent rumours that the world will end very soon...  OBSTACLE : (Gekitotsu no Hexxennacht ) -> I still have no real clue of how we get there from the previous one, as I haven't read everything pertaining to it, but they seem to have re acquired at least the ability to create pocket dimensions again.  CITY : (CITY series) the last Era, and first written series. ... Anyway, the thread was about anime though, and only Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon got one, hence why I answered that rather that the more global answer that would have been to call it the "Kawakami verse". Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon alone is approaching the 30,000 pages of content by now, so let's just said that this verse is absurdly humongous. |
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@FZREMAKE
Its likely due to how much older Gundam is. I do wonder why they have so many timelines, I mean some suggest that it isn't a multiverse but multiple calendar systems, with UC being the beginning of this extended timeline of shows and CC being the end. I'm not entirely sure as then there's stuff like Gaia Gear which was a fanfiction written by the original author Tomino after he parted ways with Sunrise due to creative differences. So its very messy.
One thing I'd like to know is if Tomino always intended for this, or if its slowly just developed. Whereas with Nasu it seems from inception he's always been against direct sequels for the most part. Tsukihime and Fate could have existed in the same world, but he wanted there to be that multiverse. Yet with shared elements; the Mages Association, Clocktower, The Holy Church.
I'm generally not one for multiverses, the current Star Wars with the 'world between worlds' and Marvel and DC multiverses generally never appealed to me. Yet for some reason Fate's and the wider Nasuverse just sort of clicked.
Its likely due to how much older Gundam is. I do wonder why they have so many timelines, I mean some suggest that it isn't a multiverse but multiple calendar systems, with UC being the beginning of this extended timeline of shows and CC being the end. I'm not entirely sure as then there's stuff like Gaia Gear which was a fanfiction written by the original author Tomino after he parted ways with Sunrise due to creative differences. So its very messy.
One thing I'd like to know is if Tomino always intended for this, or if its slowly just developed. Whereas with Nasu it seems from inception he's always been against direct sequels for the most part. Tsukihime and Fate could have existed in the same world, but he wanted there to be that multiverse. Yet with shared elements; the Mages Association, Clocktower, The Holy Church.
I'm generally not one for multiverses, the current Star Wars with the 'world between worlds' and Marvel and DC multiverses generally never appealed to me. Yet for some reason Fate's and the wider Nasuverse just sort of clicked.
| @AnimePedestrian Haven't watched gundam so can't say for sure but I agree with the fate multi verses. DC and marvel multiverse never appealed to me either but there is something about the nasuverse that keeps me more and more interested. |
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@AnimePedestrian
Haven't watched gundam so can't say for sure but I agree with the fate multi verses. DC and marvel multiverse never appealed to me either but there is something about the nasuverse that keeps me more and more interested.
Haven't watched gundam so can't say for sure but I agree with the fate multi verses. DC and marvel multiverse never appealed to me either but there is something about the nasuverse that keeps me more and more interested.
| @FZREMAKE You know I looked into it a little, and I think I might have worked it out. See with Gundam it only got turned into a multiverse by Sunrise when Victory Gundam flopped and they decided that prehaps branching out from the UC was the only chance to attract a new audience which apparently caused a rift between Tomino and Sunrise. As a result early AU series lacked Tomino (Gundam creators) touch. A similar thing happened with Marvel, as writers and artists leave and new one comes in slowly they reset the universe to allow new creative takes on existing characters and storylines. This is all well and good, but eventually most people settle for a certain visionaries take on the series. But Fate is the only one beyond prehaps the works of the late Leiji Matsumoto where the same auteur has his input across all the different stories. Sure there are other writers in Fate, with the two that come to mind for me being Gen Urobuchi and Yūichirō Higashide, but Nasu always has his creative input and I think that what maintains that same feeling and consistancy across all the different timelines in the Nasuverse. |
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The most obvious series that come to mind is Legend of the Galactic Heroes  As a series that focus on big social cometary and history as a narrative being a prevalent theme the lore is very good, perhaps one of the best narratives that doesn't rely on multiverses but rather on a canonical historical record. This video below by Seven Nights sums up a lot of the stuff about this in his video below As a inverse of this we also have the Leijiverse which is a very interesting as it is a shared universe of sought with different timelines but in reality its more of a shared cast; Characters like Maetel  And Harlock  Are sought of like actors/actress who are taking on different roles in Leiji projects. That was kind off how this video here put it and I think its a really interesting way of justifying a multiverse as a sought of homage to the Holywood Star System the video below by Leijiverse gives the best introduction to these concepts and the legendary manga artist himself so I'll link below |
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