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Jul 25, 2023 6:00 PM
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Question is simple just use your brain to find some loop holes or plot holes in this anime just for fun
Jul 25, 2023 6:08 PM
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I firmly believe that Steins:Gate have few problems, but I don’t think it has plot holes
Jul 25, 2023 6:11 PM
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Pekyo said:
I firmly believe that Steins:Gate have few problems, but I don’t think it has plot holes

Yeh it's kinda makes perfect time loop in the end so belive same
Jul 25, 2023 6:12 PM
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Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together
Jul 25, 2023 6:28 PM
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It's time travel, plot holes are irrelevant unless they slap you in the face upon first viewing. Somehow, this has always been a controversial subject on these boards, but even great time travel media should have a few plot holes, because making a compelling product is much more important than making sure there's no logical inconsistencies. As long as the "lie" makes sense when it's told and seems plausible, then there's no issue whatsoever if you go back and analyze the specifics only to realize, "wait, that's bullshit" because all that matters is that the narrative was constructed well enough to fool you in the first place. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jul 25, 2023 6:29 PM
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It does a good job with time travel. I can't think of any lope holes off the top of my head.
Jul 25, 2023 7:16 PM
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The only one that I've ever noticed, which had to be pointed out to me, is that after Faris sends her D-Mail and the worldline changes accordingly, there's a shot of Okabe on the PC with the same MayQueen + Nyan2 wallpaper
Jul 25, 2023 10:20 PM
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Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together

she helps her parents get together in a different timeline bruh
what did you even watch
Jul 25, 2023 10:47 PM
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Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together


Not a paradox in this universe and they even get together without her interaction.
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Jul 25, 2023 10:51 PM
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In episode 17 there's an issue with the D-mail that Faris sent from the previous world line regarding her being captured and the ransom thingie, a person named Resus-2 explained the issue with more details in the episode 17 thread so you should check that out, this issue is from the anime though, the VN fixed this issue by adding more things to it so in the anime, this can be considered a plot hole.

Suzuha disappearing at the end of episode 24 can be considered a plot hole too since she can't disappear, Reading Steiner didn't even activate, but I believe there is another explanation for this that is explained in another VN outside of Steins;Gate, I don't know much about it since I haven't played those VN but the cause of the disappearances is due to the persons being sent to the "R" world line or something like that, I may be wrong but that's a theory that is explained in another VN, this also happened in the Steins;Gate movie, Okabe was disappearing because he was being sent to the "R" world line too but again, I don't know much about it since I haven't played the others VN's. And just like this I can find other issues in this anime but there aren't really plot holes, just nitpicks here and there.

Anyway, Steins;Gate may have some issues or plot holes here and there but I don't mind, I only care about the story and the plot and if I enjoy it then I can forgive whatever plot holes this anime may have and let's be honest here, this is a time-traveling story, this genre are usually filled with plot holes or whatever and Steins;Gate did a good job in making the story interesting while keeping the issues or plot holes to a minimum and this is something that I respect in this anime.
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Jul 25, 2023 11:08 PM
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It doesn’t have plot holes but you can guess most of the plot ahead of time
Jul 26, 2023 12:16 AM
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Why care. Just watch and enjoy what was written. Or play the visual novels. It’s up to you.
Jul 26, 2023 12:42 AM
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i dont get it hahaha
Jul 26, 2023 1:52 AM
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RopeBuny said:
Why care. Just watch and enjoy what was written. Or play the visual novels. It’s up to you.

>joins a discussion that he doesn't care about to say "why care" instead of just ignoring it
Jul 26, 2023 2:50 AM
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i-Savage said:
RopeBuny said:
Why care. Just watch and enjoy what was written. Or play the visual novels. It’s up to you.

>joins a discussion that he doesn't care about to say "why care" instead of just ignoring it

It’s steins gate. I gotta join it.
Jul 26, 2023 2:55 AM
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Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together

But when their parents' date didn't go well and they couldn't get closer, Suzuya slowly began to fade from the picture.
Jul 26, 2023 4:03 AM

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KakashiLover1529 said:
Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together

But when their parents' date didn't go well and they couldn't get closer, Suzuya slowly began to fade from the picture.


No lmao. That photo was photoshopped like that so Suzuha could trick Daru believing that she is gonna disappear.

This isn't Back to the Future lol.
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Jul 26, 2023 4:35 AM
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Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together

bruh you ever seen terminator
Jul 26, 2023 4:35 AM
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lostkeysci said:
The only one that I've ever noticed, which had to be pointed out to me, is that after Faris sends her D-Mail and the worldline changes accordingly, there's a shot of Okabe on the PC with the same MayQueen + Nyan2 wallpaper

lol thats the most inconsequential shit ever
Jul 26, 2023 5:00 AM
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I was always wondering about the Movies Logic🤔
That Okabe starts changing Timelines without any technical Help of the D-Mail or Timemachine always struck me as a big Logicerror/ Inconsitency/ Plothole🤷‍♂️
Can Someone explain the Logic behind that?
Jul 26, 2023 6:42 AM

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ihr_nervt said:
I was always wondering about the Movies Logic🤔
That Okabe starts changing Timelines without any technical Help of the D-Mail or Timemachine always struck me as a big Logicerror/ Inconsitency/ Plothole🤷‍♂️
Can Someone explain the Logic behind that?


Okabe does not switching worldlines in the movie. He basically gets erased by the world to the "R wordline" because he is realized as an error in the system. The "R worldline" is not a worldline but a container for errors
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Jul 26, 2023 10:15 AM
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@ncf6789 suzuha was just making sure that her existence didn’t CHANGE the timeline, either way daru ends up with her mom but suzuha didn’t want her existence to alter that part of the timeline so she pressured him
Jul 26, 2023 10:23 AM
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The Op does not know what loophole means
Jul 26, 2023 10:49 AM
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yes I mean it prove me wrong
Jul 27, 2023 3:28 AM

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I've been into the Steins;Gate subreddit for a while before joining MAL, so I can provide a definitive answer. After connecting the dots and filling the gaps, the die-hard fans managed to provide an explanation for every little thing from S;G and S;G 0, except Suzuha disappearing at the end of ep 24.

On the other hand, the Deja-vu movie is a mess written by someone who completely misunderstood how Reading Steiner works.
Jul 27, 2023 4:46 AM

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Nirinbo said:
except Suzuha disappearing at the end of ep 24.

On the other hand, the Deja-vu movie is a mess written by someone who completely misunderstood how Reading Steiner works


Both of your claims is wrong. Even on the subreddit, the opinion on the movie and Suzuha's disappearance have shifted recently. Both of them make sense and consistent with the presented mechanics in SciADV.

In the past, most of the subreddit users (including myself) were Steins;Gate onlies who simply didn't have enough context to interpret the movie and Suzuha's disappearance.
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Jul 27, 2023 5:02 AM

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SciADV_Maniac said:
Nirinbo said:
except Suzuha disappearing at the end of ep 24.

On the other hand, the Deja-vu movie is a mess written by someone who completely misunderstood how Reading Steiner works


Both of your claims is wrong. Even on the subreddit, the opinion on the movie and Suzuha's disappearance have shifted recently. Both of them make sense and consistent with the presented mechanics in SciADV.

In the past, most of the subreddit users (including myself) were Steins;Gate onlies who simply didn't have enough context to interpret the movie and Suzuha's disappearance.

Last time I checked was like 5 years ago, so I admit I'm not up to date. Can you link me some threads about those matters?
Jul 27, 2023 5:13 AM

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Nirinbo said:
SciADV_Maniac said:


Both of your claims is wrong. Even on the subreddit, the opinion on the movie and Suzuha's disappearance have shifted recently. Both of them make sense and consistent with the presented mechanics in SciADV.

In the past, most of the subreddit users (including myself) were Steins;Gate onlies who simply didn't have enough context to interpret the movie and Suzuha's disappearance.

Last time I checked was like 5 years ago, so I admit I'm not up to date. Can you link me some threads about those matters?


https://www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/comments/140hk6r/steins_gate_movie_question/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/steinsgate/comments/140y5th/the_canonicity_of_the_steinsgate_movie_is_unclear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
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Jul 27, 2023 12:58 PM
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when suzuha and okabe change the world line to the steins gate timeline, suzuha and her time machine dont instantly disappear. and when they "return" to the present in that timeline, suzuha and her time machine disappear before they get there, so somehow okabe would have just materialized. Literally my least favorite thing about this whole show.

still the best anime ever made tho :)
Jul 27, 2023 2:56 PM

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PeeBeeBoi said:
suzuha and her time machine disappear before they get there,


No, not what happens. Where did you get that? It didappears after they arrive
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Jul 27, 2023 2:58 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
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suzuha and her time machine disappear before they get there,


No, not what happens. Where did you get that? It didappears after they arrive

maybe I need to rewatch the show but my recollection was Okabe and Suzuha get in the time machine, they see glowy lights, suzuha says bye, and then okabe is outside the time machine again in the present
Jul 27, 2023 3:02 PM

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PeeBeeBoi said:
SciADV_Maniac said:


No, not what happens. Where did you get that? It didappears after they arrive

maybe I need to rewatch the show but my recollection was Okabe and Suzuha get in the time machine, they see glowy lights, suzuha says bye, and then okabe is outside the time machine again in the present


It's just a visual effect bro. And no, it is not shown in the anime that Oksbe is suddenly out of the time machine in the present

Description directly from the VN:

[268][name]Suzuha[line]“Once we arrive, I’ll probably disappear. I won’t be able to thank you for bringing me to Steins Gate.”[%p]
[269][name]Suzuha[line]“So I’ll thank you now.”[%p]
[270][name]Suzuha[line]“Thank you, Uncle. Don’t die. Live.”[%p]
[271]Just as she predicted, Suzuha vanished the moment we returned to August 21st.[%p]
[272]Right before my very eyes, the time machine was enveloped in rainbow light and disappeared.[%p]
[273]She was smiling as she faded away.[%p]
[274]That was proof I had reached Steins Gate.[%p]
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Jul 27, 2023 3:03 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
PeeBeeBoi said:

maybe I need to rewatch the show but my recollection was Okabe and Suzuha get in the time machine, they see glowy lights, suzuha says bye, and then okabe is outside the time machine again in the present


It's just a visual effect bro.

Description directly from the VN:

[268][name]Suzuha[line]“Once we arrive, I’ll probably disappear. I won’t be able to thank you for bringing me to Steins Gate.”[%p]
[269][name]Suzuha[line]“So I’ll thank you now.”[%p]
[270][name]Suzuha[line]“Thank you, Uncle. Don’t die. Live.”[%p]
[271]Just as she predicted, Suzuha vanished the moment we returned to August 21st.[%p]
[272]Right before my very eyes, the time machine was enveloped in rainbow light and disappeared.[%p]
[273]She was smiling as she faded away.[%p]
[274]That was proof I had reached Steins Gate.[%p]

so then she only disappears after okabe exits the time machine? that seems pretty weird too
Jul 27, 2023 6:06 PM
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PeeBeeBoi said:
SciADV_Maniac said:


It's just a visual effect bro.

Description directly from the VN:

[268][name]Suzuha[line]“Once we arrive, I’ll probably disappear. I won’t be able to thank you for bringing me to Steins Gate.”[%p]
[269][name]Suzuha[line]“So I’ll thank you now.”[%p]
[270][name]Suzuha[line]“Thank you, Uncle. Don’t die. Live.”[%p]
[271]Just as she predicted, Suzuha vanished the moment we returned to August 21st.[%p]
[272]Right before my very eyes, the time machine was enveloped in rainbow light and disappeared.[%p]
[273]She was smiling as she faded away.[%p]
[274]That was proof I had reached Steins Gate.[%p]

so then she only disappears after okabe exits the time machine? that seems pretty weird too

Maybe Suzuha and the time machine disappeared while Okabe was inside it, they just vanished right in his eyes while he was inside and they got sent to the "R Worldline" which is the other theory thingie going around while Okabe remained in the Steins;Gate worldline.

I guess I don't have an issue with this one with the "R Worldline" thingie, the bigger issue IMHO is the one I mentioned in episode 17 earlier around here.

Edit:

BTW @SciADV_Maniac, in your opinion, Suzuha was sent to the "R Worldline" at the end of episode 24, correct?
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BTW @SciADV_Maniac, in your opinion, Suzuha was sent to the "R Worldline" at the end of episode 24, correct?


Yes. But I will (maybe) get my answer after September 8 when Anonymous;Code finally arrives to the West :)
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SciADV_Maniac said:
xZabuzax said:
BTW @SciADV_Maniac, in your opinion, Suzuha was sent to the "R Worldline" at the end of episode 24, correct?


Yes. But I will (maybe) get my answer after September 8 when Anonymous;Code finally arrives to the West :)

Alright mate, be sure to keep us up-to-date with the answers you find in that VN =)
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SciADV_Maniac said:
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But when their parents' date didn't go well and they couldn't get closer, Suzuya slowly began to fade from the picture.


No lmao. That photo was photoshopped like that so Suzuha could trick Daru believing that she is gonna disappear.

This isn't Back to the Future lol.
oh, i guess i thought wrong. thanks for that info :D
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Ncf6789 said:
Suzuha’s existence is a paradox because she gets her parents together

but I thought thr whole show was one big paradox

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