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Ai should be supporting character
May 27, 2023 3:11 PM
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Main character is a type character that viewer focus on until the end of the story, interacts with the secondary characters, and is personally impacted by the plot's main conflict.

We can see she is muredered in the first eps so there is no way she can move the plot. She also archetype of mentor to guide her childs. She is almost same character like Haymitch Abernathy in Hunger Games, where he guide the main character. There is no way that a character labeled as main character but they died.  

If she still won't change to support character then Gorou Amemiya and Sarina Tendouji should be Main Character too because both introduce first than Ai and also they just switch body that can move the story plot.

May 27, 2023 3:23 PM
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I mean yeah that's like if in Harry Potter his parents were classed as main characters
May 27, 2023 3:48 PM
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tbh it doesn't rly matter if she's labelled as a main character or not, they did quite a bit of trolling with the trailer and making her seem like the main character of the series so it could just be an extension of that?
May 27, 2023 3:59 PM
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In theory yes, you are of course right. After all, main characters are those that stay the focal point throughout the majority of the story. 

However labeling her as main character is a good kind of "trolling" for those that haven't been spoiled. She's also like the face of the series and the poster girl.
May 27, 2023 4:06 PM
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restush said:
Main character is a type character that viewer focus on until the end of the story, interacts with the secondary characters, and is personally impacted by the plot's main conflict.

We can see she is muredered in the first eps so there is no way she can move the plot. She also archetype of mentor to guide her childs. She is almost same character like Haymitch Abernathy in Hunger Games, where he guide the main character. There is no way that a character labeled as main character but they died.  

If she still won't change to support character then Gorou Amemiya and Sarina Tendouji should be Main Character too because both introduce first than Ai and also they just switch body that can move the story plot.

If you think about it from the point that Ep 1 was marketed and produced as a film, we can essentially consider Ai as MC for the first episode only (like Yuuta from JJK 0)
May 27, 2023 4:46 PM
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I disagree. If one actually watched episode 1, which consists of 80+ minutes of time, wholeheartedly... ๐Ÿค
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
May 27, 2023 4:48 PM
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they do little amount of trolling
May 27, 2023 4:59 PM
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Listing Ai not as a main character would spoil the fun, not to mention it's not wrong anyway that she is a main character.

The show is still about her in the end.



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May 27, 2023 6:03 PM
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restush said:
Main character is a type character that viewer focus on until the end of the story, interacts with the secondary characters, and is personally impacted by the plot's main conflict.

We can see she is muredered in the first eps so there is no way she can move the plot. She also archetype of mentor to guide her childs. She is almost same character like Haymitch Abernathy in Hunger Games, where he guide the main character. There is no way that a character labeled as main character but they died.  

If she still won't change to support character then Gorou Amemiya and Sarina Tendouji should be Main Character too because both introduce first than Ai and also they just switch body that can move the story plot.

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May 27, 2023 6:36 PM
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I consider Ai still a main character, considering even after death she still is present in the story and is a central part of Aqua and Ruby's motivation going into the industry.
May 27, 2023 6:37 PM

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Well, despite being a titular character and poster child of the series, she is still a supporting character at most.
May 27, 2023 6:50 PM
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filimaua13 said:
I consider Ai still a main character, considering even after death she still is present in the story and is a central part of Aqua and Ruby's motivation going into the industry.

Exactly this.

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I mean yeah that's like if in Harry Potter his parents were classed as main characters

Harry's parents don't really hold a central role in the story. From the first book, the story ultimately revolves around Harry and Voldemort as a result of the former's parents murder, and that portion of the story doesn't leave anything substantial to be explored later on.

Relative to Harry Potter, Ai and whoever she was involved with before episode one are both clearly mysterious and unexplored characters. The story has continued to revolve around Ai's murder and past relationships for the current MCs (Aqua and Ruby) motivation.
May 27, 2023 8:54 PM
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She is definitely a main character seeing how everything is happening because of her. Her presence is always there and no matter what happens, everything comes back to her.
May 27, 2023 9:47 PM
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Everything that happened in this story came from ai hoshino. If she did not exist, there would not be a story at all. She is not exactly a main character but more of something beyond that, but for now the word "main character" shall suffice.

I don't think we'd have a "oshi no ko" without ai hoshino, same way we wouldn't have a death note without light yagami, that qualifies her as a main character.
May 27, 2023 10:10 PM
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UnknownOriginal said:
Everything that happened in this story came from ai hoshino. If she did not exist, there would not be a story at all. She is not exactly a main character but more of something beyond that, but for now the word "main character" shall suffice.

I don't think we'd have a "oshi no ko" without ai hoshino, same way we wouldn't have a death note without light yagami, that qualifies her as a main character.

well by that logic you could say nothing in death note would've happened if it weren't for light's mom, but does that make her a main character?
May 27, 2023 10:14 PM

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i mean she's still at the hearth of the anime after episode 1.

She's the reason Aqua is seeking revenge, the reason ruby is trying to become an idol, she's the character Akane attempt to roleplay/become (sure bcus of Aqua but it is still relevant)

She's also constantly reminded of throughout the episodes.

You can't say it's a secondary character when litteraly the whole anime revolves around her, not only first episode.
May 27, 2023 10:19 PM

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droLmuCehT said:
UnknownOriginal said:
Everything that happened in this story came from ai hoshino. If she did not exist, there would not be a story at all. She is not exactly a main character but more of something beyond that, but for now the word "main character" shall suffice.

I don't think we'd have a "oshi no ko" without ai hoshino, same way we wouldn't have a death note without light yagami, that qualifies her as a main character.

well by that logic you could say nothing in death note would've happened if it weren't for light's mom, but does that make her a main character?

I don't even remember light's mother tbh.

It's not about the consequences of a character, it's rather about how the story is narrated.
Ai Hoshino is constantly there, in every episode, and throught many characters.
May 27, 2023 10:26 PM
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droLmuCehT said:
UnknownOriginal said:
Everything that happened in this story came from ai hoshino. If she did not exist, there would not be a story at all. She is not exactly a main character but more of something beyond that, but for now the word "main character" shall suffice.

I don't think we'd have a "oshi no ko" without ai hoshino, same way we wouldn't have a death note without light yagami, that qualifies her as a main character.

well by that logic you could say nothing in death note would've happened if it weren't for light's mom, but does that make her a main character?

Well, light's mom doesn't really even need to exist in death note, she can be replaced by anyone or anything. Can the same be done with light himself or ai hoshino?

If ai weren't Ai, all the events would change, signaling her influence in the series. However, like i mentioned before, shes not exactly fitting the mold of main character but at the same time if anything else were different about her, almost every single thing in the story would change.

I think the author meant for it to be this way and that's also why she appears in the intro during each episode. It's quite creative(not exactly original in concept but original in execution) if you think about it, a main character who only exists as a shadow in every single episode, where all the events are tied to her even though she is no longer alive.

Almost everything Ruby does, us fans probably think of what Ai did, at least for me. I was always comparing all the things that aqua and ruby do with Ai, for example with the dancing and singing of ruby, how she struggles with it compared to Ai, and how aqua approaches acting compared to Ai, both are extremely natural in the way they act, Ai being able to immediately fit in in that first shooting she had and Aqua immediately bringing the level of shooting of the drama he was involved in up by being involved in the way he did.

No matter what it appears that she isn't exactly not present every episode. It appears as if in each episode, things are plotted in such a way that there will always be a natural reminiscence involving Ai.
May 27, 2023 11:00 PM
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She died in episode one, shes very clearly not a main character
May 28, 2023 1:20 AM
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Yes, i feel like she the one to overhyped character in this show. she responsible for lot of people calling this show overratted. Cause in the end  of the day oshi no ko not really about her but it's about backstaage of japanese entertaiment industry
May 28, 2023 2:19 AM
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I hope moderator see this thread and can change Ai to supporting character. 

Zrytst said:
If you think about it from the point that Ep 1 was marketed and produced as a film, we can essentially consider Ai as MC for the first episode only (like Yuuta from JJK 0)

I see, so because it marketed as first eps like a movie making it as MC? I think it's not. Oshi No Ko should be treat same as other anime. If main character died, then the story finish.

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tbh it doesn't rly matter if she's labelled as a main character or not, they did quite a bit of trolling with the trailer and making her seem like the main character of the series so it could just be an extension of that?
I believe trolling is not a good idea because it ruin literature format of character in myanimelist. Or something going fishy with myanimelist that I can't tell what will happening in future. I also want to see if the anime make season 2, will she be in a list as main character?

May 28, 2023 2:39 AM

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True, maybe.

Who cares, tho?
May 28, 2023 5:02 AM

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Ai is basically what you can call as a combination of a Main Character and a Side Character.
Lemme Explain...

Without Hoshino Ai, the story would not even start or continue as it is being. What we call a main character is a person who influences the story plot the most. This also means that without Ai, neither Aqua could continue her death's revenge, not would Ruby try to become an idol herself.
This makes Ai a main character.

But, as the definition is given in the start of this post, I most definitely agree with it too, that a main character is someone who, in most common sense, is alive(even 'kind-of' alive in some cases).
So, by this perspective she doesn't hold the right to be considered the mc of this series.
May 28, 2023 5:46 AM
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I disagree. If one actually watched episode 1, which consists of 80+ minutes of time, wholeheartedly... ๐Ÿค

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May 28, 2023 5:52 AM
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I don't think so , I mean she is not the the protagonist ofcourse but she is like a plot of the anime but as a character , I mean it's not like she is just some supportive character only present to make the main characters more awesome, she can be considered as the tritagonist , I mean she has the most influence on the story and has screen time white close to the main protagonists. So theoretically she should not be a main character but practically we can consider her as one , I mean there isn't a proper criteria to properly differentiate between a main character and a supporting one .
May 28, 2023 6:57 AM

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I think she is considered somewhat the main as the plot revolves around her.

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May 28, 2023 10:06 AM

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It would be kind of a spoiler though if she was labeled as a support character
Nino is the objectively superior one, don't @ me
May 28, 2023 10:27 AM
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irrelevant debate
May 28, 2023 12:15 PM
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Honestly you’re not wrong but at the same time she does get a lot of attention in the anime. By that I mean the anime is literally about getting revenge for her.
So being a mc or supporting character would both be right.



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May 28, 2023 5:10 PM
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i mean she's still at the hearth of the anime after episode 1.

She's the reason Aqua is seeking revenge, the reason ruby is trying to become an idol, she's the character Akane attempt to roleplay/become (sure bcus of Aqua but it is still relevant)

She's also constantly reminded of throughout the episodes.

You can't say it's a secondary character when litteraly the whole anime revolves around her, not only first episode.

So is gol d rogers from one piece a main character? Everyone’s motivations or at least a large cast is to find the one piece he led behind the entire story literally surrounds gol d rogers “one piece” it began the entire pirate era and all
May 28, 2023 6:24 PM

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...But viewers DO focus on Ai throughout the whole story and she definitely is impacted by the main and side plot of the story, even if she died.

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ErisLover said:
i mean she's still at the hearth of the anime after episode 1.

She's the reason Aqua is seeking revenge, the reason ruby is trying to become an idol, she's the character Akane attempt to roleplay/become (sure bcus of Aqua but it is still relevant)

She's also constantly reminded of throughout the episodes.

You can't say it's a secondary character when litteraly the whole anime revolves around her, not only first episode.

So is gol d rogers from one piece a main character? Everyone’s motivations or at least a large cast is to find the one piece he led behind the entire story literally surrounds gol d rogers “one piece” it began the entire pirate era and all

Thats superfluous at best. She's a main character because we follow her through the story, and even though she dies, she gets brought up constantly even after. Gol D Roger does not get brought up constantly (keyword, constantly) throughout the story of One Piece even though he is an important character. The adventure is around his treasure, not him. Would be different if we followed his adventure from the beginning, but we do not. We get stories about him at best.

A better example, Nedd Stark. Used in the narrative in GoT similar to how Ai was used. Hes still a main character because we followed him through the story up until his death, not to mention has impacted the plot and main characters that arose after his death.
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May 28, 2023 6:29 PM
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It’s not just his treasures that we follow though. Almost every mystery revolves around him from the will of d to the ponogrpyhs he’s arguably the most important character ye sure he doesn’t appear as often but like the series is over 1k eps watd u want for him to be mentioned every single time to be a main character? Cause even luffy doesn’t get that

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