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If Eren does not end up with rumbling ,or if rumbling betrays Eren

Attack on Titan will for forever remain a generic story of Good vs Evil

There is no racism when there is only one race

All hail Eren !! All hail Rumbling!!
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There is no racism when there is only one race


are you a nazi in real life?
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Nowadays, what's left for aot discussion is troll, bait and ship posts.

This post includes all of the above💀
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itsrj20 said:
Nowadays, what's left for aot discussion is troll, bait and ship posts.

This post includes all of the above💀

It's impressive, in a sad kind of way...
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Eren × Traitors best ship ever . . .
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deg said:
Mack_Yeager said:
There is no racism when there is only one race


are you a nazi in real life?

He's much more of a Yeagarist, I would say.
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deg said:


are you a nazi in real life?

He's much more of a Yeagarist, I would say.


whats the difference between yeagerists and nazis that both believe in that saying "There is no racism when there is only one race"
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PikaboyTK said:

He's much more of a Yeagarist, I would say.


whats the difference between yeagerists and nazis that both believe in that saying "There is no racism when there is only one race"

Ah, you have got a point.
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deg said:
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He's much more of a Yeagarist, I would say.


whats the difference between yeagerists and nazis that both believe in that saying "There is no racism when there is only one race"

Marley is more kind of nazis too.
they attacked first and their plan is to take the founding titan and kill every eldian on paradis island.

"there will be no hatred if the people they hate are extinct"
as per marley.
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deg said:


whats the difference between yeagerists and nazis that both believe in that saying "There is no racism when there is only one race"

Marley is more kind of nazis too.
they attacked first and their plan is to take the founding titan and kill every eldian on paradis island.

"there will be no hatred if the people they hate are extinct"
as per marley.


no since they only hate one race and not all races other than their own like nazis does
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racism is racism no matter how many races you hate.
yeah eren is like a nazi but that doesn't mean he is the only wrong guy in this situation.
and eren doesn't hate any races.
he is just killing people who are trying to kill or are against him and his people at first place.
HE IS DOING IT TO IN SELF DEFENCE.
IF HE DOESN'T DEFEND HIMSELF THEN HIM AND HIS WHOLE ISLAND WILL GET KILLED FOR NO REASON.
only way to defend himself is to end the hatred but the peace option didn't worked, they showed it in s4 ep28 so the only option was to fight and kill.
if he kills ONLY the world military alliance and not the rest of the world then do you think that the rest of the world will stop hating him and his people?
No they will not. instead they will hate paradis more.
it's a war man there are not good or bad.
the nuclear Blast on Japan.
it ended the war and the USA got praised for it from many countries but the USA also got hate for it from many countries including Japan.
eren is doing rumbling which is wrong but the rest of the world gave him no choice but to do it.
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racism is racism no matter how many races you hate.
yeah eren is like a nazi but that doesn't mean he is the only wrong guy in this situation.
and eren doesn't hate any races.
he is just killing people who are trying to kill or are against him and his people at first place.
HE IS DOING IT TO IN SELF DEFENCE.
IF HE DOESN'T DEFEND HIMSELF THEN HIM AND HIS WHOLE ISLAND WILL GET KILLED FOR NO REASON.
only way to defend himself is to end the hatred but the peace option didn't worked, they showed it in s4 ep28 so the only option was to fight and kill.
if he kills ONLY the world military alliance and not the rest of the world then do you think that the rest of the world will stop hating him and his people?
No they will not. instead they will hate paradis more.
it's a war man there are not good or bad.
the nuclear Blast on Japan.
it ended the war and the USA got praised for it from many countries but the USA also got hate for it from many countries including Japan.
eren is doing rumbling which is wrong but the rest of the world gave him no choice but to do it.


no thats like saying all crimes are the same, there is also difference in the amount of racism involve this is not simply nationwide genocide either this is global genocide so its a greater evil and not a lesser evil at all

there is a limit to self-defense in real life for example like the moment the threat stops then you stop the self-defense too but Eren goes into full offensive mode and overkill instead of just destroying all the military bases that are the immediate threat

by that logic you can just kill anyone that harms you for the sake of self-defense
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the moment when the threat stops then you stop.
but that's not the same in real life when the whole world is a threat to you.
just tell me when did the marley stopped attacking paradis at the first place.
in these 4 years they still sended so many military ships.
it someone tries to kill you then you try to stop him then what happens.
the person goes to jail and police/law takes care of him.
its totally changes when the entire world is trying to kill you.
if he only had killed military, will the world will stop to hate him and his people?
no they will not.
if the military is gone then they will make a new one in a few years and then they will again attack the paradis to take revenge of their previous military soldiers.
the proof=extra pages of chp139.
where paradis again got attack 100s of years later.
That means even 80% of people are gone.
the remaining 20% people didn't stop hating eldians, they still spread hate against eldians to their children's and grandchildrens and then few centuries later again the war started.
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Sujal234 said:
the moment when the threat stops then you stop.
but that's not the same in real life when the whole world is a threat to you.
just tell me when did the marley stopped attacking paradis at the first place.
in these 4 years they still sended so many military ships.
it someone tries to kill you then you try to stop him then what happens.
the person goes to jail and police/law takes care of him.
its totally changes when the entire world is trying to kill you.
if he only had killed military, will the world will stop to hate him and his people?
no they will not.
if the military is gone then they will make a new one in a few years and then they will again attack the paradis to take revenge of their previous military soldiers.
the proof=extra pages of chp139.
where paradis again got attack 100s of years later.
That means even 80% of people are gone.
the remaining 20% people didn't stop hating eldians, they still spread hate against eldians to their children's and grandchildrens and then few centuries later again the war started.


sure but that is not realistic at all then and its not a good moral message even a good political message

new generations (every 20 years) often do not care about the past like the current new generation in real life does not care much about how Germany and Japan started World Wars heck we worship Japan here right
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yeah you are right but in this anime the marlians and the rest of the world DID care about their ancestors.
the whole attack of s1ep1 was to take the founder and kill everyone on the island later.
this was the revenge of their ancestor who suffered a century ago.
and the people on paradis of that time are already dead but still without even thinking that current people of paradis are not the one who killed and made their ancestors suffer, they attacked.

at any rate it's just a fictional story and the characters are good or bad it just depends on perspective.

if we watch eren/aot on paradis people's perspective then we think eren is a hero.

if we watch eren/aot on the rest of the world perspective then we think eren is the villian.
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deg said:
Sujal234 said:
the moment when the threat stops then you stop.
but that's not the same in real life when the whole world is a threat to you.
just tell me when did the marley stopped attacking paradis at the first place.
in these 4 years they still sended so many military ships.
it someone tries to kill you then you try to stop him then what happens.
the person goes to jail and police/law takes care of him.
its totally changes when the entire world is trying to kill you.
if he only had killed military, will the world will stop to hate him and his people?
no they will not.
if the military is gone then they will make a new one in a few years and then they will again attack the paradis to take revenge of their previous military soldiers.
the proof=extra pages of chp139.
where paradis again got attack 100s of years later.
That means even 80% of people are gone.
the remaining 20% people didn't stop hating eldians, they still spread hate against eldians to their children's and grandchildrens and then few centuries later again the war started.


sure but that is not realistic at all then and its not a good moral message even a good political message

new generations (every 20 years) often do not care about the past like the current new generation in real life does not care much about how Germany and Japan started World Wars heck we worship Japan here right

in any case I just love how the writer divided the fandom in 2 parts and in the whole world there are only few writers who are able to do it so brilliantly.
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Sujal234 said:
deg said:


sure but that is not realistic at all then and its not a good moral message even a good political message

new generations (every 20 years) often do not care about the past like the current new generation in real life does not care much about how Germany and Japan started World Wars heck we worship Japan here right

in any case I just love how the writer divided the fandom in 2 parts and in the whole world there are only few writers who are able to do it so brilliantly.


its just genocide justification message and i hate that or even nationalism vs globalism or simply us vs them mentality so even in real life right now you have those political arguments
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Now in today's generation us vs them is almost erased from this world.
but it won't be completely erased since we are not at any war today.
us vs them was started again in Ukraine vs Russia war right?
but including that in anime and making it so good that people can't ignore the fact that it is divided is really difficult for writers.
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deg said:

there is a limit to self-defense in real life for example like the moment the threat stops then you stop the self-defense too but Eren goes into full offensive mode and overkill instead of just destroying all the military bases that are the immediate threat


Umm, you are forgetting the big picture here. Eren has to die in one year because of the Ymir curse. If he only destroys military bases, then military bases will be rebuilt in 2–3 years again and he will die after 1 year. So he is not confident that his heir will be able to deal with the outside world. And he wants to ensure the safety of Pardis Island(more specifically his friends' safety). So, he is just ensuring after his death they will face no problem.



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deg said:

there is a limit to self-defense in real life for example like the moment the threat stops then you stop the self-defense too but Eren goes into full offensive mode and overkill instead of just destroying all the military bases that are the immediate threat


Umm, you are forgetting the big picture here. Eren has to die in one year because of the Ymir curse. If he only destroys military bases, then military bases will be rebuilt in 2–3 years again and he will die after 1 year. So he is not confident that his heir will be able to deal with the outside world. And he wants to ensure the safety of Pardis Island(more specifically his friends' safety). So, he is just ensuring after his death they will face no problem.


thats why the 50 year plan is better plus like i said in the real world new generations (every 20 years) does not care much about the past like what happen with Japan and Germany that started World Wars
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deg said:
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There is no racism when there is only one race


are you a nazi in real life?

He’s not wrong. There is only one race, its prejudice that people are referring to, not race.
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
deg said:


are you a nazi in real life?

He’s not wrong. There is only one race, its prejudice that people are referring to, not race.


be honest that racism is prejudice or bigotry and even in real life its still a problem
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deg said:
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He’s not wrong. There is only one race, its prejudice that people are referring to, not race.


be honest that racism is prejudice or bigotry and even in real life its still a problem

I can’t co-sign that, as old as I am I never experienced prejudice, I follow the rules and keep on moving.

I currently live in a 90% white neighborhood now and I’ve never felt safer than when I lived in the Hood in New York. Black people
in New York attack other blacks more than whites and the police. So I left.
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
deg said:


be honest that racism is prejudice or bigotry and even in real life its still a problem

I can’t co-sign that, as old as I am I never experienced prejudice, I follow the rules and keep on moving.

I currently live in a 90% white neighborhood now and I’ve never felt safer than when I lived in the Hood in New York. Black people
in New York attack other blacks more than whites and the police. So I left.


you got prejudice or dislike of blacks? why are you saying there is only one race then? (and i agree there is only the human race but he said this "There is no racism when there is only one race" so he does not believe there is only one human race) youre conflicted or confused with your beliefs
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deg said:
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I can’t co-sign that, as old as I am I never experienced prejudice, I follow the rules and keep on moving.

I currently live in a 90% white neighborhood now and I’ve never felt safer than when I lived in the Hood in New York. Black people
in New York attack other blacks more than whites and the police. So I left.


you got prejudice or dislike of blacks? why are you saying there is only one race then? (and i agree there is only the human race but he said this "There is no racism when there is only one race" so he does not believe there is only one human race) youre conflicted or confused with your beliefs

It’s prejudice. Everyone is of the human race, but there are different ethnicities that some people do not like. You can say in a way, we have more wisdom than those in the past 1000 years separating people because of different colored skin. Its foolishness
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
deg said:


you got prejudice or dislike of blacks? why are you saying there is only one race then? (and i agree there is only the human race but he said this "There is no racism when there is only one race" so he does not believe there is only one human race) youre conflicted or confused with your beliefs

It’s prejudice. Everyone is of the human race, but there are different ethnicities that some people do not like. You can say in a way, we have more wisdom than those in the past 1000 years separating people because of different colored skin. Its foolishness


thats the point though racism or prejudice is bad so i do not get what youre trying to say when he said "There is no racism when there is only one race" so clearly Eren and his supporters wants Eldians to be the only race left
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deg said:
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It’s prejudice. Everyone is of the human race, but there are different ethnicities that some people do not like. You can say in a way, we have more wisdom than those in the past 1000 years separating people because of different colored skin. Its foolishness


thats the point though racism or prejudice is bad so i do not get what youre trying to say when he said "There is no racism when there is only one race" so clearly Eren and his supporters wants Eldians to be the only race left

So what race is the Marleyans? Or the rest of the world? Non-titan race and titan race?
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be honest do you agree that to remove prejudice like racism then Eren should kill all other races besides his own (Eldians)?
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White Titans? Black Titans? Asian Titans?
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
White Titans? Black Titans? Asian Titans?


Oyakupon is said to be black, there as muslims too and asians like Mikasa too why are you dodging my question? be honest do you agree that to remove prejudice like racism then Eren should kill all other races besides his own (Eldians)?

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be honest do you agree that to remove prejudice like racism then Eren should kill all other races besides his own (Eldians)?

Eren’s killing all the other people who view the people of Paradis as some sort of plague people, not race, they’re all the same.
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deg said:
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White Titans? Black Titans? Asian Titans?


Oyakupon is said to be black, there as muslims too and asians like Mikasa too why are you dodging my question? be honest do you agree that to remove prejudice like racism then Eren should kill all other races besides his own (Eldians)?


I don’t dodge, I answer in order, be patient
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
deg said:
@Linus_Li_Lelouch

be honest do you agree that to remove prejudice like racism then Eren should kill all other races besides his own (Eldians)?

Eren’s killing all the other people who view the people of Paradis as some sort of plague people, not race, they’re all the same.


no there are other races in Attack on Titan like i said Mikasa is asian, Oyakupon is black, there are Muslims too and etc

whats your point anyway? it looks like you wrongly quoted me there first it seems youre trying to say Eren is not doing it for racism but his fans even said it again "there will be no racism if there is only one race" so im not the one saying that at first
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If you want to remove prejudice, and racism…

stop talking about it.

Everyone is a human of one race with different features. That’s it.
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Eren’s killing all the other people who view the people of Paradis as some sort of plague people, not race, they’re all the same.


no there are other races in Attack on Titan like i said Mikasa is asian, Oyakupon is black, there are Muslims too and etc

whats your point anyway? it looks like you wrongly quoted me there first it seems youre trying to say Eren is not doing it for racism but his fans even said it again "there will be no racism if there is only one race" so im not the one saying that at first

So Eren is a racist now?
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If you want to remove prejudice, and racism…

stop talking about it.

Everyone is a human of one race with different features. That’s it.


then why quote me first? i did not say the race or racism words first

@Linus_Li_Lelouch

yes Eren is racist (he dehumanizes all other races) according to his fans too
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deg said:
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If you want to remove prejudice, and racism…

stop talking about it.

Everyone is a human of one race with different features. That’s it.


then why quote me first? i did not say the race or racism words first

@Linus_Li_Lelouch

yes Eren is racist (he dehumanizes all other races) according to his fans too

No he said there is no racism if there is only one race.

You said:

“Are you a Nazi?”

I said, he’s not wrong, its just prejudice not actual racism because we’re all the same
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deg said:
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If you want to remove prejudice, and racism…

stop talking about it.

Everyone is a human of one race with different features. That’s it.


then why quote me first? i did not say the race or racism words first

@Linus_Li_Lelouch

yes Eren is racist (he dehumanizes all other races) according to his fans too

Eren would have to be a different race to be racist. What race is he then? Saiyan Race? Shinigami Race?
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then why quote me first? i did not say the race or racism words first

@Linus_Li_Lelouch

yes Eren is racist (he dehumanizes all other races) according to his fans too

No he said there is no racism if there is only one race.

You said:

“Are you a Nazi?”

I said, he’s not wrong, its just prejudice not actual racism because we’re all the same


no thats not how it works because racism is prejudice too they are not much different

youre trying to disqualify me through semantics and technicalities

besides


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deg said:


then why quote me first? i did not say the race or racism words first

@Linus_Li_Lelouch

yes Eren is racist (he dehumanizes all other races) according to his fans too

Eren would have to be a different race to be racist. What race is he then? Saiyan Race? Shinigami Race?


he is Eldian race
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No he said there is no racism if there is only one race.

You said:

“Are you a Nazi?”

I said, he’s not wrong, its just prejudice not actual racism because we’re all the same


no thats not how it works because racism is prejudice too they are not much different

youre trying to disqualify me through semantics and technicalities

besides


Linus_Li_Lelouch said:

Eren would have to be a different race to be racist. What race is he then? Saiyan Race? Shinigami Race?


he is Eldian race

That’s exactly how it works, just because society wants to complicate the word racism and prejudice doesn’t change the core definition. We are the human race with different ethnicities, and if someone does not like a certain ethnicity, its prejudice, not racist.
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no thats not how it works because racism is prejudice too they are not much different

youre trying to disqualify me through semantics and technicalities

besides




he is Eldian race

That’s exactly how it works, just because society wants to complicate the word racism and prejudice doesn’t change the core definition. We are the human race with different ethnicities, and if someone does not like a certain ethnicity, its prejudice, not racist.


the user specifically said race and racism and you reworded it a prejudice youre the one who is wrong here
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deg said:
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That’s exactly how it works, just because society wants to complicate the word racism and prejudice doesn’t change the core definition. We are the human race with different ethnicities, and if someone does not like a certain ethnicity, its prejudice, not racist.


the user specifically said race and racism and you reworded it a prejudice youre the one who is wrong here

You’re right, I went deeper than the original post called for.

That’s just how I am.
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the user specifically said race and racism and you reworded it a prejudice youre the one who is wrong here

You’re right, I went deeper than the original post called for.

That’s just how I am.


even if we accept that Eren is just prejudice that is no way better or an excuse to do world genocide anyway because if you read the manga then Eren is worst than a prejudice he is a psychopath
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Linus_Li_Lelouch said:
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no thats not how it works because racism is prejudice too they are not much different

youre trying to disqualify me through semantics and technicalities

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he is Eldian race

That’s exactly how it works, just because society wants to complicate the word racism and prejudice doesn’t change the core definition. We are the human race with different ethnicities, and if someone does not like a certain ethnicity, its prejudice, not racist.


There are different human races. What you meant with human race is species, not race, we are the same species. Race being used to mean the whole species is a modern thing due to frequent usage in the context of human. But the word usage have always exists in animals/plants, and are treated synonymous as "subspecies", and for which there also exists the word "subrace".

"Human races are distinguished by anthropologists on the basis of anthropometric traits. Geneticists delineate the races on the basis of gene frequenciesshared within the group and as different from other “racial” populations. The classification of “races” is compounded by social and cultural factors. The main human races are Caucasoid, Mongoloids (including Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, and American Indians, etc.), and Negroid. Khoisanoids or Capoids (Bushmen and Hottentots) and Pacific races (Australian aborigines, Polynesians, Melanesians, and Indonesians) may also be distinguished. "

It's like there are different breeds of the dog species. And it makes much more sense(not complication) to use the word breed, than saying "different ethnicities of dogs".

"The term race has also historically been used in relation to domesticated animals, as another term for breed; this usage survives in combining form, in the term landrace, also applied to domesticated plants. The cognate words for race in many languages (Spanish: raza; German: Rasse; French: race) may convey meanings the English word does not, and are frequently used in the sense of 'domestic breed'."
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There's no racism when there's only one race.

You severely underestimate humans my friend.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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