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Aug 31, 2022 1:21 AM
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So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ? And what did horikita do on top of that ?
Aug 31, 2022 1:32 AM
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Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ? And what did horikita do on top of that ?

It is explain it the episode so I would just re watch it if i was you. As that was literally the bulk of the episode.
Aug 31, 2022 1:46 AM
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Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ?
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.
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And what did horikita do on top of that ?

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.
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Aug 31, 2022 1:47 AM
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Ayanokouji told Ryuuen that Kushida's paper wouldn't be accepted for Class C's paper shuffle as she promised him, and Ryuuen modified his own paper in return to fuck Kushida over.
All Horikita did was hand in Class D's actual paper to Chabashira before Kushida and told her to get rid of any other submissions. That resulted in Chabashira shredding Kushida's paper.
Aug 31, 2022 2:55 AM
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I can understand if you ask about first exam which is pretty complicated. But ep 9 have explained enough. You could just rewatch to understand it,or maybe you're just....y'now,slow?
Aug 31, 2022 3:22 AM
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I can understand if you ask about first exam which is pretty complicated. But ep 9 have explained enough. You could just rewatch to understand it,or maybe you're just....y'now,slow?

It's pretty clear.
Horikita while delivering questions told teacher exact same thing Kushida did later, but since Horikita was first, Kushida's questions were shredded without her knowing.
Aug 31, 2022 5:24 AM
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What’s not clear is how Ayanokoji was able to negotiate this deal. Does he just say, hey do as I ask and I’ll give you some info?

In that scenario, Ryuen has no guarantee that the information is of value to him.

If Ayanokoji went to him with the information upfront, well, then there is no incentive for Ryuen to help Ayanokoji anymore … because he already has the info.
Aug 31, 2022 6:18 AM
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Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ? And what did horikita do on top of that ?

don't post on mal asking fot answers. All you're getting are people roasting you for not knowing something so obvious lmao
Aug 31, 2022 6:58 AM
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itsrj20 said:
Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ?
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.
Saphhh said:
And what did horikita do on top of that ?

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

muddykita lmao (character limit)
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Aug 31, 2022 11:35 AM
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Zac22 said:
I can understand if you ask about first exam which is pretty complicated. But ep 9 have explained enough. You could just rewatch to understand it,or maybe you're just....y'now,slow?

why are you calling him or her slow 😭 they literally just asked for some clarification of the events that happened that confused them. That’s the point of threads and discussions. if you don’t want to clarify that’s fine but why are you insulting this person because they didn’t understand something that you did? Does that make your ego feel good or make you feel smart?
Aug 31, 2022 5:10 PM
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dylpickles said:
Zac22 said:
I can understand if you ask about first exam which is pretty complicated. But ep 9 have explained enough. You could just rewatch to understand it,or maybe you're just....y'now,slow?

why are you calling him or her slow 😭 they literally just asked for some clarification of the events that happened that confused them. That’s the point of threads and discussions. if you don’t want to clarify that’s fine but why are you insulting this person because they didn’t understand something that you did? Does that make your ego feel good or make you feel smart?

bro..πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€
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Kingcatzak said:
Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ? And what did horikita do on top of that ?

don't post on mal asking fot answers. All you're getting are people roasting you for not knowing something so obvious lmao

A majority of the initial answers are explanations though.




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XGDAVIDYT said:
dylpickles said:

why are you calling him or her slow 😭 they literally just asked for some clarification of the events that happened that confused them. That’s the point of threads and discussions. if you don’t want to clarify that’s fine but why are you insulting this person because they didn’t understand something that you did? Does that make your ego feel good or make you feel smart?

bro..πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

stand on that the rudeness wasn’t necessary
Aug 31, 2022 7:14 PM

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itsrj20 said:
Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ?
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.
Saphhh said:
And what did horikita do on top of that ?

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

So what benefit did ryuuen have of knowing that horikita was ahead of kushida ?
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Saphhh said:
itsrj20 said:
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

So what benefit did ryuuen have of knowing that horikita was ahead of kushida ?
I mean, think by yourself, if horikita was ahead of Kushida, isn't it obvious that she already knew that Kushida would betray her own class again, and so whatever work Kushida did is pointless. Which means, Ryuuen got the wrong sheet accidentally by Kushida but in return Ryuuen gave the wrong sheet too, but on purpose. In particular, Ryuuen got an overall intel regarding the matter going on, and it saved him from using the wrong sheet in exam, like kushida ended up with, also it somewhat helped him to think or get a little bit of view about the mastermind. Anyway, the real winner is Kiyo and suzune, while instead of losing outright in the test with the wrong sheet obtained from Kushida, Ryuuen was on neutral by the Intel received from kiyo and the one who lost on the both sides is Kushida. She got betrayed and lost the challenge, which means she can't sabotage suzune anymore. That's all.

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Saphhh said:
itsrj20 said:
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

So what benefit did ryuuen have of knowing that horikita was ahead of kushida ?


Ryuuen could avoid mass expulsions in his class (since they believed they didn't have to study for an exam they already would have the answers to)
Sep 1, 2022 9:13 AM
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itsrj20 said:
Saphhh said:
So finished ep 9 just some hours and I'm a bit confused.
What deal did Ayanokouji and Ryuuen make which benefited both of their classes ?
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.
Saphhh said:
And what did horikita do on top of that ?

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

can you explain about the cheat kiyo got which were answers of Kushida's paper? tho it is shown i don't get it , too much shown in that episode
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itsrj20 said:
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

can you explain about the cheat kiyo got which were answers of Kushida's paper?
Rephrase if it's something else, but if you're asking about how the slips came under Kushida's blazer, then it was set up by Kiyo and Kei. But, if you're asking "How did kiyo got it", then Kiyo traded it with Ryuuen, and running a slip in the exams, could lead to expulsion.
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tho it is shown i don't get it , too much shown in that episode
Well, adaptation is meh. It's been a long time since I've read this volume, but there is still a lot more to be told in this, except what I have said and what is shown in the anime. So, it is obvious to anyone that they might not be getting a few things.

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itsrj20 said:
It was explained well enough in the anime. Still, if you don't get it, then here you go. Kiyo gave the Intel to ryueen, about Muddykita making her first move. However, kiyo wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions.
First, to provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers.
or
Second, to make changes to the paper, he gave to Kushida.

Ryueen choosed the second option, and kushida got betrayed.

Muddykita met Chibashira, to agree on two conditions.
First, as the class representative, only Muddykita will submit the question paper.
Second, if anyone else tries to hand in questions on her behalf, Chibashira must pretend to accept, but follow none of their instructions.

can you explain about the cheat kiyo got which were answers of Kushida's paper?
Rephrase if it's something else, but if you're asking about how the slips came under Kushida's blazer, then it was set up by Kiyo and Kei. But, if you're asking "How did kiyo got it", then Kiyo traded it with Ryuuen, and running a slip in the exams, could lead to expulsion.
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tho it is shown i don't get it , too much shown in that episode
Well, adaptation is meh. It's been a long time since I've read this volume, but there is still a lot more to be told in this, except what I have said and what is shown in the anime. So, it is obvious to anyone that they might not be getting a few things.
But the "then Kiyo traded it with Ryuuen" part was never shown / mentioned in the anime, or was it? At least not in the different subs that I checked. That confused me a bit because all that was mentioned was "give Kikyo changed answer sheets" not "give Kikyo AND X changed answer sheets".

I know I'm a year late, but I'm a binge watcher and don't really watch ongoing (apart from a few exceptions), so I don't know if this will be seen.
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But the "then Kiyo traded it with Ryuuen" part was never shown / mentioned in the anime, or was it? At least not in the different subs that I checked. That confused me a bit because all that was mentioned was "give Kikyo changed answer sheets" not "give Kikyo AND X changed answer sheets".

I know I'm a year late, but I'm a binge watcher and don't really watch ongoing (apart from a few exceptions), so I don't know if this will be seen.

Read the second paragraph. The adaptation is meh, they cut off more than they show.

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Okay. The show is about a genius who outsmarts everyone. But I don't think it's as smart as it's trying to be. Ayanokouji's strategy in this case doesn't guarantee a 100% win.

So, Ayanokouji wanted Ryuuen to accept one of the two conditions:
- First, provide Class 1-C’s questions and answers. If Ryuuen chose this, then Kushida would be expelled, as Ayanokouji would expose the cheat sheet in her blazer.
or
- Second, change the paper and give to Kushida. If Ryuuen chose this, then Horikita won the bet as in the anime.

Ok, sounds good in both scenarios, but that's only when Ryuuen is virtuous enough to follow the rule and agree to one of the two requests. But he is a cunning bastard so you would never know. Ryuuen would:
- Third, defy Ayanokouji, give him some random set of questions and answers, then give Kushida the correct questions. In this case Kushida wins, Horikita and Ayanokouji get expelled.

I know many people said that Ryuuen had high interest in Horikita and X(Ayanokouji), so he wouldn't want to do that. But then that means the MC who's supposed to be extremely smart, has let his future to be decided by others. Who knows, on a bad day Ryuuen may just do the third one, there is nothing to guarantee that he won't do it. It is a risk and based on what the show is trying to be, the MC should have not overlooked it.

I don't read the LN. That's my thought after watching ep 9. Overall I'm not very impressed with what happened. Very open to further discussion.

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