I just finished HxH 1999 and not only did it exceed my expectations because of how the 2011 version felt underwhelming thanks to the overhype it gets, but I was also shocked to realise how overrated it is compared to the original. It's a bit criminal how the original with its attention to detail, artistry and eye for aesthetics (especially with all the nature and sky shots and the emphasis on the day-and-night cycle that complement the series' rural setting) gets overlooked for the remake. And regardless of what you think of Chimera Ant, it would've fit way better in that version. In essence, the 1999 adaptation had more soul put into it. But let's look at what each version does better:
HxH 2011:
>Provides a complete package (with all its highs and lows). More precisely, it has the highest peaks of the series that is the second half of Chimera Ant and it also has the sluggish first half and the 13th Hunter Chairman Election snoozefest. >By extension, it has a more conclusive ending (But this isn't a big deal honestly because HxH lacks an overarching narrative and themes and every arc is episodic, so the 1999 version doesn't really feel incomplete.) >Better pacing >Better voice acting
HxH 1999:
>Better character designs >Better character development >Far better tone and atmosphere - The main reason why the original is superior. From the visually pleasing colouration and lighting to the more stoic nature of the characters. Unlike the childish and ugly oversaturated colours of the remake, the original does a great job at capturing the sense of adventure with sinister undertones that the series tries to depict. It's evident in small details as well how the remake was targeted towards a younger audience, like the audience in Gon vs Hisoka behaving like ruffians. >Better music, more appropriate choice of soundtracks for scenes and doesn't constantly reuse the same few soundtracks. >Better directing (The staff for the original consisted of more big names, after all. Togashi also helped with the directing.) >Better, more dynamic animation - Fluidity and the lack of slideshows >By extension, generally better choreographed and more impactful fights >Greed Island is separated from the main title as two OVAs, meaning 1999 ends on arguably the strongest arc in the series (Yorknew City). >It has the elevator girl
I have watched both version twice at least, and I know how good HxH 1999 is, but it still can't compete with HxH 2011 simply because the latter covers more story and it also has more satisfying ending, it feels like it has been concluded.
Comparing both version is like comparing a beautiful gold sculpture with a bigger beautiful gold sculpture :)
Even if both HxH covered the same length of story, each version has their own charms.
I too think 1999 version did most arcs better except heavens arena and greed island imo I just had more fun rewatching them in 2011 version.
The reason why 2011 gets more attention because most people don't like older art styles and slow pacing, the 2011 version has some what of a conclusion and it has chimera ant arc one the most praised arcs in shounen
I basically agree with everything you pointed out lol, only thing I would argue is that 99 had the better pacing, especially with the first couple of arcs, it was altogether just a much better slow introduction into the world. The biggest thing, and most important thing 99 has over 2011 is the tone and aesthetic though, the difference imo is night and day.
Imagine thinking the enjoyment of a show isn’t up to each individual and that no one can truly define a shows unique qualities pertaining to an individual including themselves
Yeah, this is all subjective. I think the sound effects and voice acting sound really bad for the most part. And it’s just not great that’s it’s not completed. It’s not great (1999 version)
official_brownAug 24, 2022 5:28 PM
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Perfectrockstar said: Imagine thinking the enjoyment of a show isn’t up to each individual and that no one can truly define a shows unique qualities pertaining to an individual including themselves
SaMMy17BST said: I basically agree with everything you pointed out lol, only thing I would argue is that 99 had the better pacing, especially with the first couple of arcs, it was altogether just a much better slow introduction into the world. The biggest thing, and most important thing 99 has over 2011 is the tone and aesthetic though, the difference imo is night and day.
I appreciate the reboot's speedier pace in the Hunter Exam but you're right that the slower pace of the original allowed for better character development and an introduction to the world. Especially fleshing out the dynamics between the main cast, like that whole sequence between Gon, Kurapika and Leorio before they even got on the ship. The reboot deleting Kite from episode 1 was also awful when the cop-out for Gon not recognising him in Chimera Ant was that he forgot (lol), and that was also an important establishing of relations between the two that would help to explain why Gon cared for him so much in the first place that the reboot just cut out. Literally just bad directing that could've easily been avoided.
SaMMy17BST said: I basically agree with everything you pointed out lol, only thing I would argue is that 99 had the better pacing, especially with the first couple of arcs, it was altogether just a much better slow introduction into the world. The biggest thing, and most important thing 99 has over 2011 is the tone and aesthetic though, the difference imo is night and day.
I appreciate the reboot's speedier pace in the Hunter Exam but you're right that the slower pace of the original allowed for better character development and an introduction to the world. Especially fleshing out the dynamics between the main cast, like that whole sequence between Gon, Kurapika and Leorio before they even got on the ship. The reboot deleting Kite from episode 1 was also awful when the cop-out for Gon not recognising him in Chimera Ant was that he forgot (lol), and that was also an important establishing of relations between the two that would help to explain why Gon cared for him so much in the first place that the reboot just cut out. Literally just bad directing that could've easily been avoided.
Ya, the Kite thing just baffles me, it really detracts from the Chimera Ant arc, and Gon's overall development, by that point in 2011, everything felt forced and contrived, Gon getting revenge on Pitou is supposed to be this earth shattering moment, and all I could do was laugh to myself at what I was witnessing, I dunno, maybe it's just me lol. Also, what they do to aunt Mito in 2011 is a crime, she practically raised Gon all by herself, and she just gets pushed to the side, her character is handled with much more care in 99.
official_brown said: Yeah, this is all subjective. I think the sound effects and voice acting sound really bad for the most part. And it’s just not great that’s it’s not completed. It’s not great (1999 version)
-FALSE said: I just finished HxH 1999 and not only did it exceed my expectations because of how underwhelming the 2011 version was (not that it was bad) thanks to the overhype it gets, but I was also shocked to realise how overrated the remake actually is compared to the original. It's kind of criminal how the original with its attention to detail, artistry and eye for aesthetics (especially with all the nature shots, skies and emphasis on the day-and-night cycle that complement the series' rural setting) gets overlooked for the remake; and regardless of what you think of Chimera Ant, it would've fit way better in that version. In essence, the 1999 adaptation had more soul put into. But let's look at what each version does better:
HxH 2011:
>Provides a complete package (with all its highs and lows). More precisely, it has the highest peaks of the series that is the second half of Chimera Ant and it also has the sluggish first half and the 13th Hunter Chairman Election snoozefest. >By extension, it has a more conclusive ending (But this isn't a big deal honestly because HxH lacks an overarching narrative and themes and every arc is episodic, so the 1999 version doesn't really feel incomplete.) >Better pacing >Better animation generally >Better voice acting
HxH 1999:
>Better character designs >Far better tone and atmosphere - The main reason why the original is superior. From the excellent and visually pleasing colouration and lighting to the more stoic nature of the characters. Unlike the childish and ugly oversaturated colours of the remake, the original does a great job at capturing the sense of adventure with sinister undertones that the series tries to depict. It's evident in small details as well how the remake was targeted towards a younger audience, like the audience in Gon vs Hisoka behaving like ruffians. >Better music, more appropriate choice of soundtracks for scenes and doesn't constantly reuse the same few soundtracks. >Better directing (The staff for the original consisted of more big names, after all. Togashi also helped with the directing.) >More dynamic animation - Fluidity, lack of slideshow animation. >By extension, generally better fights with more weight and emotional impact. >Greed Island is separated from the main title as two OVAs, meaning 1999 ends on arguably the strongest arc in the series (Yorknew City). >It has the elevator girl
Thoughts? Do you agree?
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME LMAO
I agree with all of your points but I like the pacing in the 1999 one better
official_brown said: Yeah, this is all subjective. I think the sound effects and voice acting sound really bad for the most part. And it’s just not great that’s it’s not completed. It’s not great (1999 version)
neither is the 2011 version lol
But it concluded very well, and 2011 conclusion is better than the most of the long running shounen endings.
official_brown said: Yeah, this is all subjective. I think the sound effects and voice acting sound really bad for the most part. And it’s just not great that’s it’s not completed. It’s not great (1999 version)
neither is the 2011 version lol
But it concluded very well, and 2011 conclusion is better than the most of the long running shounen endings.
2011 has the best arc of all time so yes its better
stop begging for attention by trying to be different, clearely the killing majoraity thinks that the 2011 version is better thats why theyre 0.60 points apart
-FALSE said: I just finished HxH 1999 and not only did it exceed my expectations because of how underwhelming the 2011 version was (not that it was bad) thanks to the overhype it gets, but I was also shocked to realise how overrated the remake actually is compared to the original. It's kind of criminal how the original with its attention to detail, artistry and eye for aesthetics (especially with all the nature shots, skies and emphasis on the day-and-night cycle that complement the series' rural setting) gets overlooked for the remake; and regardless of what you think of Chimera Ant, it would've fit way better in that version. In essence, the 1999 adaptation had more soul put into. But let's look at what each version does better:
HxH 2011:
>Provides a complete package (with all its highs and lows). More precisely, it has the highest peaks of the series that is the second half of Chimera Ant and it also has the sluggish first half and the 13th Hunter Chairman Election snoozefest. >By extension, it has a more conclusive ending (But this isn't a big deal honestly because HxH lacks an overarching narrative and themes and every arc is episodic, so the 1999 version doesn't really feel incomplete.) >Better pacing >Better animation generally >Better voice acting
HxH 1999:
>Better character designs >Far better tone and atmosphere - The main reason why the original is superior. From the excellent and visually pleasing colouration and lighting to the more stoic nature of the characters. Unlike the childish and ugly oversaturated colours of the remake, the original does a great job at capturing the sense of adventure with sinister undertones that the series tries to depict. It's evident in small details as well how the remake was targeted towards a younger audience, like the audience in Gon vs Hisoka behaving like ruffians. >Better music, more appropriate choice of soundtracks for scenes and doesn't constantly reuse the same few soundtracks. >Better directing (The staff for the original consisted of more big names, after all. Togashi also helped with the directing.) >More dynamic animation - Fluidity, lack of slideshow animation. >By extension, generally better fights with more weight and emotional impact. >Greed Island is separated from the main title as two OVAs, meaning 1999 ends on arguably the strongest arc in the series (Yorknew City). >It has the elevator girl
Thoughts? Do you agree?
couldn't have said it better I prefer 1999 for the earlier arcs, but overall chimera ant arc just tips the scales in 2011's favour for me
I guess this is subjective and depends on preference, in my opinion 2011 HxH is better than 1999 version in every aspect, be it soundtrack, animation, fights and anime direction, but your statement 'Imagine thinking this is better than HxH 1999' is corny af.
I haven't watched the 1999 version but I do like its retro aesthetic. It looks 10x better and all the more reason why I shouldn't have wasted my time with Huntrash X Hiatus 2011. Perhaps the reason why the 2011 version looks soulless compared to the original is because it was primarily concerned with getting a new generation of anime fans into the series, thus it got a new mainstream coat of paint added to it. Of course the original would serve to boost the series' popularity too as all anime adaptations do, but I'd assume the majority of its viewers were pre-existing fans considering it was released only a year after the manga's debut.
Haven’t seen 1999, but the darker presentation seems like it would subtract from the tonal dissonance 2011 manages to pull off. The dark arcs like Chimera Ant hit as hard as they do because of the bright color palette and lighthearted presentation of less tense moments. Hunter x Hunter is a dark show but 1999 seems like it only really captures half of its overall focus. idk I’ll watch 1999 eventually to see
Actually all of us who saw the 99 version in our time, believe that it is better. So it is not a question of wanting to be different.
Both are good, but watching the York Shin City saga on TV and recording it on VHS to watch it another 30 times will never be equaled. Also seeing animated what one had been reading in the manga was good, neither of the two adaptations should be detracted from.
It is such a good series... I recommend watching both and reading the manga as it is.
ShySeishuro said: Actually all of us who saw the 99 version in our time, believe that it is better. So it is not a question of wanting to be different.
Both are good, but watching the York Shin City saga on TV and recording it on VHS to watch it another 30 times will never be equaled. Also seeing animated what one had been reading in the manga was good, neither of the two adaptations should be detracted from.
It is such a good series... I recommend watching both and reading the manga as it is.
Yeah, that sounds very nostalgic. Something about older anime in general that's just more 'real', for the lack of a better term. HxH 1999 was also at the tail-end of the era where anime was mostly hand-drawn, before they were digitalised, so that plays a big part in it and would make the anime feel a lot more like an animated manga. The anime still looks great to this day.
the only argument of the 2011 version is that the 1999 version doesn't have the Chimera Ant Arc and the Greed Island arc had a different animator but those 62 episodes are blissful, the 2011 version is tame and shows it was aimed at a much softer generation , what's with the bright colours and glossy look, the 1999 version is much more grittier and has a dark tone , which suits the story better, even Killua and Hisoka are far more scarier and intimidating in the 1999 version ,if the Chimera Ant Arc would have been adapted in Yoshiro Togashi's vision, the 1999 version would best represent it, too bad the new generation is missing out on a masterpiece which is the 1999 version , you can see that the 2011 version is a cash grab, there is no soul and care put into it, even Forgotten Relics has a video showcasing the fight between Gon vs Hanzo, which clearly shows, that there is so much detail put into every scene inorder to capture significant moments, even the backgrounds are realistic, the world building in the 1999 version is unmatched , character development is far more superior, as you are rooting for the main cast as you understand their goals and ambitions and you got to know them , nothing is rushed, even the side characters are given far better treatment in the 1999 version. But who am I kidding this generation doesn't care about substance.
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I don't know hxh 1999 looks like someone with 90s aesthetics fascination would prefer solely for visual preference.
Whatever u are saying is pretty much generic 90s whitewashing. Like there is simply no way to have better character development because it's just same story. Tone, direction, character design, dynamic animation etc... What U are simply taking about just one thing rather than multiple which is basically 90s universal style
Anonychan said: Was elevator girl in the manga? I can't remember.
Nope, it's another soulful creative liberty taken by the 1999 version to elevate the original source material.
"elevate the source material"? it was unnecessary and anime-original content only serves to drag the pace of the show and stretch it to keep the show on air for as long as possible. overstretched and badly paced, manga best
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Ersbon said: Haven’t seen 1999, but the darker presentation seems like it would subtract from the tonal dissonance 2011 manages to pull off. The dark arcs like Chimera Ant hit as hard as they do because of the bright color palette and lighthearted presentation of less tense moments. Hunter x Hunter is a dark show but 1999 seems like it only really captures half of its overall focus. idk I’ll watch 1999 eventually to see
the 1999 doesnt have the futuristic-fantasy feel that Togashi was going for. it feels bland
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