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Aug 3, 2022 12:45 AM
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Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.
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Mha in favs lmao...
Aug 3, 2022 1:02 AM
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Just get to ennies lobby somehow and yea I kind of agree with you too I hate how major characters don't die in one piece that's one aspect of the show that's really predictable
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...


Has nothing to do with what he's saying bc he's making a point here, OP's fakeouts are the worst aspect about it
Aug 3, 2022 1:06 AM
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What do you expect from a Mickey Mouse of anime. It's is a good comfort fiction but don't expect anything peak from it.

Aug 3, 2022 1:15 AM
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...


huh? aren’t my favs code Geass, your lie in April, Akame ga kill, Naruto, clannad, a silent voice, bunny girl Senpai, toradora, hibike, and Evangelion
Aug 3, 2022 1:21 AM
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CickNipolla said:
MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...


huh? aren’t my favs code Geass, your lie in April, Akame ga kill, Naruto, clannad, a silent voice, bunny girl Senpai, toradora, hibike, and Evangelion

you have mha in your top 15 in your bio and it's in the top tens. That's besides the point though I also hate that aspect of shonen shows where no one dies. Makes the battles seem unimportant.
Aug 3, 2022 1:21 AM
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...

Rent a girlfriend in favs lmao…
Aug 3, 2022 1:23 AM
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AGK in favs talking about predictable 💀
Aug 3, 2022 1:23 AM

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first of all, it's common knowledge that enel is just a self proclaimed god, and secondly, 9/10 people who are struck by lightning tend to survive so that's not absurd? and he was 52, if not all then atleast get some facts right.
also he has a maximum of 200million volts, it's not that he necessarily uses 200million volts every single time.
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...

What's that got to do with this? It's not as if he's making a very bad point? If you don't have anything to defend it just close the thread
And you're the one talking with the trashiest romcom ever created and the worst new gen battle shonen in your favs?
Aug 3, 2022 1:26 AM
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

That's the exact problem I have with one piece, and that's why till enies lobby, skypiea and alabasta are worse arc for me even worse than the filler arc G8 is better.
Aug 3, 2022 1:27 AM
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The voltage doesn't kill tho. It's the current. But also the man might just be strong enough to resist it.
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Kasutoro-Kun said:
CickNipolla said:


huh? aren’t my favs code Geass, your lie in April, Akame ga kill, Naruto, clannad, a silent voice, bunny girl Senpai, toradora, hibike, and Evangelion

you have mha in your top 15 in your bio and it's in the top tens. That's besides the point though I also hate that aspect of shonen shows where no one dies. Makes the battles seem unimportant.


Oh that yea for sure mha is a top 15 show all time I’m fairly certain that’s a majority opinion
Aug 3, 2022 1:38 AM
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CickNipolla said:
MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...


huh? aren’t my favs code Geass, your lie in April, Akame ga kill, Naruto, clannad, a silent voice, bunny girl Senpai, toradora, hibike, and Evangelion
code geasss fanboy teaching others about great taste. BEHOLD MY POWER
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ryzxgum said:
first of all, it's common knowledge that enel is just a self proclaimed god, and secondly, 9/10 people who are struck by lightning tend to survive so that's not absurd? and he was 52, if not all then atleast get some facts right.
also he has a maximum of 200million volts, it's not that he necessarily uses 200million volts every single time.


Wiper unrealistically somehow surviving 4 lighting blasts does not make a 52 year old man surviving the 2nd strongest lightning blast any more sensible. In the beginning of the arc we literally see someone die from El Thor, so for a much older man to survive it without any damage is just bad writing
Aug 3, 2022 1:43 AM

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Here I agree with you even i don't like majority of the fights in one piece, the fights lack tension, they lack strategies, they lack choreography, they are repetitive and they involve huge plot armour.
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CickNipolla said:
ryzxgum said:
first of all, it's common knowledge that enel is just a self proclaimed god, and secondly, 9/10 people who are struck by lightning tend to survive so that's not absurd? and he was 52, if not all then atleast get some facts right.
also he has a maximum of 200million volts, it's not that he necessarily uses 200million volts every single time.


Wiper unrealistically somehow surviving 4 lighting blasts does not make a 52 year old man surviving the 2nd strongest lightning blast any more sensible. In the beginning of the arc we literally see someone die from El Thor, so for a much older man to survive it without any damage is just bad writing

listen, i've already told you why it's not absurd for him to survive but skypiea is my least fav arc in the whole show bc it's the only arc where i actually got bored so i'm not gonna bother defending it any further
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CickNipolla said:
Kasutoro-Kun said:

you have mha in your top 15 in your bio and it's in the top tens. That's besides the point though I also hate that aspect of shonen shows where no one dies. Makes the battles seem unimportant.


Oh that yea for sure mha is a top 15 show all time I’m fairly certain that’s a majority opinion

You are right with the no deaths of One Piece, but MHA is not top 15 of anime xd

Maybe top 50 lmao
Aug 3, 2022 2:55 AM

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didn't you make a thread a while a go talking about Enies Lobby
why u circling back to Skypeia

actively searching the show for things to hate on🤣 see people don't watch the show to enjoy it, just looking for the smallest reasons to put it down
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

why do you want the straw hat crew members to die? and I guarantee you, people die, u just have not reached that point yet
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

family cartoon level story telling? you have mha in your top 15, that shit is the exact definition of family cartoon level story telling
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nsscloud said:
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Oh that yea for sure mha is a top 15 show all time I’m fairly certain that’s a majority opinion

You are right with the no deaths of One Piece, but MHA is not top 15 of anime xd

Maybe top 50 lmao

nah, top 50000000
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lilMocca said:
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Mha in favs lmao...

Rent a girlfriend in favs lmao…

having a rent a gf in favs is crazy but, SAO IN FAVS?
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...

OP fans are so unbelievably cringe and insecure that they start crying when someone has actual criticism towards their favourite
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I love One Piece but I do agree that there are too many fake deaths. I don’t know why Oda does that
Aug 3, 2022 3:41 AM

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Bruh this guy has trash geass , Naruto trash , my trash hero academia and other trashes in favs lmao . His opinion does not count.
One piece is peak fiction . One piece easily solos all 15 of your favorite series at once Lil bro . One piece clears your favorites with ease .
GODA is peak story teller .
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

a person who has rated fmab a 1/10.
lmaoooo
A typical Code geass fanboy.
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

Can't agree more, I kept Ennies lobby on hold bcoz of all these typical cartoon like logic is bothering me so much.
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Moxxyyyyy said:
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Rent a girlfriend in favs lmao…

having a rent a gf in favs is crazy but, SAO IN FAVS?

Yea, my Top #2 actually
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lilMocca said:
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having a rent a gf in favs is crazy but, SAO IN FAVS?

Yea, my Top #2 actually

that's crazyyyy, anyways you do you
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that's kinda shitty about it, yeah, but its truly peak fiction imo because it will never stop becoming good, even in the latest manga arc, everything just keeps getting better and better to the point when u look back, it will remind you how far it has come.

people not dying is a major issue in early parts till skypiea tho, i agree. and apparently, its there because oda wanted to make one piece fun and games to the most part and not very serious. well, atleast he realized soon enough how it needs to go from enies lobby.
but idk where you are coming from, its certainly not family cartoon level even then lol, but w/e.
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It's called plot armor + fake out death. Vast majority of characters are safe since Oda doesn't like killing characters. The upcoming arcs will nonetheless surprise you.

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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

Woahhh this person hates chimera abt arc? And actually enjoys MHA as a top 10? Irrelevant opinion overall I think.


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Worst part is, people are using the same “ just wait, 500 episodes in things change “ excuse that one piece fans always use
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ryzxgum said:
first of all, it's common knowledge that enel is just a self proclaimed god, and secondly, 9/10 people who are struck by lightning tend to survive so that's not absurd? and he was 52, if not all then atleast get some facts right.
also he has a maximum of 200million volts, it's not that he necessarily uses 200million volts every single time.

but what would have changed in the story if the old man have died?
I mean he was an non important side character because oda didn't even used him later in the show.
If the old man was not important in the future of the story, then what was the point of showing him dying in the series and later show him he is alive.

I mean it's ok to use plot armor in shows but basically I am saying that why do you use plot armor on those characters who are not important in the future of the animes too.

example-
Reiner from AOT has one of the major plot armors in anime.
since s3 part 2 he almost died many times but he still survived.
there is not any problem in his plot armor because he is important in future of AOT story in season 4 pt1, pt2 and pt3.

And only the old man from sky island is not the problem with it.

we have vivis bodyguard from alabasta who was able to turn into an eagle .
he took that huge bomb into sky and sacrifice himself to save the whole alabasta kingdom.
but later we found that he is alive and yet he had no use in the future story.
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The voltage doesn't kill tho. It's the current. But also the man might just be strong enough to resist it.

really???
that move was the one of the strongest moves of enel and he always used this move to kill people in skypiea.
THAT'S WHY ALL PEOPLE IN SKY ISLAND FEARS ENEL.
if his move didn't kill an OLD AGE MAN then why do people fear him and why did straw hats struggled so much to defeat him if he couldn't kill a oldman from it.
Enel used one of small version of voltage on Ussop and Sanji and they were lost consciousness for 1/3 of that arc.
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This is neither the first nor the last asspull/plothole in the series. But one piece is held to much lower standards than the rest as it appeals to the lowest common denominator (Locoden for short) and subpar makes for peak by such low ceilings.

There's a reason they call it Roof Piece. Because a low ceiling is as high as it's gonna get. It doesn't aim for the sky and won't even bother reach the moon. Conversely, when you fall from the roof it's rarely fatal. So OPs blunders are overlooked, brushed off.
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Sujal234 said:
ryzxgum said:
first of all, it's common knowledge that enel is just a self proclaimed god, and secondly, 9/10 people who are struck by lightning tend to survive so that's not absurd? and he was 52, if not all then atleast get some facts right.
also he has a maximum of 200million volts, it's not that he necessarily uses 200million volts every single time.

but what would have changed in the story if the old man have died?
I mean he was an non important side character because oda didn't even used him later in the show.
If the old man was not important in the future of the story, then what was the point of showing him dying in the series and later show him he is alive.

I mean it's ok to use plot armor in shows but basically I am saying that why do you use plot armor on those characters who are not important in the future of the animes too.

example-
Reiner from AOT has one of the major plot armors in anime.
since s3 part 2 he almost died many times but he still survived.
there is not any problem in his plot armor because he is important in future of AOT story in season 4 pt1, pt2 and pt3.

And only the old man from sky island is not the problem with it.

we have vivis bodyguard from alabasta who was able to turn into an eagle .
he took that huge bomb into sky and sacrifice himself to save the whole alabasta kingdom.
but later we found that he is alive and yet he had no use in the future story.

a dude has already stated this in a reply slightly above but i'll state it again, it's called a fake out death and oda does this bc he just doesn't like killing off characters.
it's his story and his choice, so how does one even argue with that
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

when time comes oda kills really important characters
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ryzxgum said:
Sujal234 said:

but what would have changed in the story if the old man have died?
I mean he was an non important side character because oda didn't even used him later in the show.
If the old man was not important in the future of the story, then what was the point of showing him dying in the series and later show him he is alive.

I mean it's ok to use plot armor in shows but basically I am saying that why do you use plot armor on those characters who are not important in the future of the animes too.

example-
Reiner from AOT has one of the major plot armors in anime.
since s3 part 2 he almost died many times but he still survived.
there is not any problem in his plot armor because he is important in future of AOT story in season 4 pt1, pt2 and pt3.

And only the old man from sky island is not the problem with it.

we have vivis bodyguard from alabasta who was able to turn into an eagle .
he took that huge bomb into sky and sacrifice himself to save the whole alabasta kingdom.
but later we found that he is alive and yet he had no use in the future story.

a dude has already stated this in a reply slightly above but i'll state it again, it's called a fake out death and oda does this bc he just doesn't like killing off characters.
it's his story and his choice, so how does one even argue with that
i know i have no right to doubt on his choice and creativity but because of those fake deaths many people like me expect that those characters are still alive because they are going to be important in further eps/chps.
I mean if it's odas creative choice, then every mangakas(including oda) also have their own creative choices but still people are creating argument one each of them.

"It's his story and his choice, so how does one even agry with that"
This line also implies to other mangalas too and yet people are debating with it because everyone doesn't have the same opinion.
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MxrcoH1Ibxr said:
Mha in favs lmao...


Imagine not having a valid argument and making fun of someone else's tastes
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Sujal234 said:
ryzxgum said:

a dude has already stated this in a reply slightly above but i'll state it again, it's called a fake out death and oda does this bc he just doesn't like killing off characters.
it's his story and his choice, so how does one even argue with that
i know i have no right to doubt on his choice and creativity but because of those fake deaths many people like me expect that those characters are still alive because they are going to be important in further eps/chps.
I mean if it's odas creative choice, then every mangakas(including oda) also have their own creative choices but still people are creating argument one each of them.

"It's his story and his choice, so how does one even agry with that"
This line also implies to other mangalas too and yet people are debating with it because everyone doesn't have the same opinion.

well yea exactly, everyone has different opinions, some people like it and some don't, you can't please everyone. if something as trivial as someone not dying is a problem for you then that's too bad but for me, the overall enjoyment overwhelms such things as that.
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CickNipolla said:
Skypiea arc + spoilers (duh). It really baffles me when people call one piece peak fiction when so much of the show relies on family cartoon level story telling. Like, literally nobody ever dies. Pell gets hit by a nuke? Survives. Vivi caretaker ship explodes? Yep he’s fine. A 60 year old Conis father gets hit by gods lightning bolt? Oh he’s just knocked out. It’s to the point where the arcs are so predictable because you know the main crew will never die + the arc characters won’t either.

You again 😭
We get it that you don't like One Piece. Making multiple threads about it won't get you anywhere. Don't ruin everyone else's mood by making these Unnecessary threads. Just drop it.
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DeonX said:
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Mha in favs lmao...


Imagine not having a valid argument and making fun of someone else's tastes
imagine it was fun but everyone takes that seriously lmao :p
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PLOT………..
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I won’t lie. The angriest I ever got was when watching OP is when they had this awesome endgame theme for Pell. It was emotional, intense, and perfect for a sacrifice theme. Then he lived. They did similar things in Skypeia. I personally hate fake outs like this. I am not saying I like death, but I understand how you feel. With that said despite this major flaw, the show is still one of my favorite and it’s great. But keep watching. It will be worth it in the end because there are some amazing moments in the show that are yet to come. Ennies lobby and Marineford are major highlights
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lilMocca said:
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Mha in favs lmao...

Rent a girlfriend in favs lmao…

I like MHA. But I lose respect when it comes to Rent a Girlfriend XD thanks for the fun comment!
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go kid just watch some more anime and develop a better taste .
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Up until the newest arc Oda (the author) didn’t like to kill characters because he felt if there was a death he couldn’t have a proper celebration at the end. I do definitely think characters like Pell, Igaram, and Kin’emon have plot armour that they shouldn’t have
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