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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I don't get why Noah wasn't with Sagiri at the end, or why Zed attacked Amil, or why Zed had to leave for worlds unknown, or how shards could be used against the power source of all shards :/ the plot holes were many, varied and huge. the battles were generally pathetic and fought by morons. the characters behavior was inconsistent to the point that I seriously doubt that the writer(s) actually knew who their characters were. and they had the idiotic habit of making everyone but Zed weaker no matter how hard they trained while making Zed stronger no matter how little he trained, something that I find both unrealistic and incredibly stupid. this was a so-so anime at best, 5/10 is being extremely generous, but I try to reserve 4 and below for anime that I actively hate. |
| I'm a little more generous (complaining about plot holes at this point seems almost redundant - the whole series is rife with them :) ) I do think the whole 'lets send Zed off on a journey' was a tool move on the part of whoever wrote this series though - would it have killed them to just let him go home? |
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| good anime overall. Not exceptional but good. |
Gigacorona said: I'm a little more generous (complaining about plot holes at this point seems almost redundant - the whole series is rife with them :) ) well i was marathoning the series, so i was reserving final judgment till the end. tho i do see your point. |
| dude i thought it rocked!!! If you feel as if you were "jew'ed" at the end then re-watch it. All plot holes were pretty much covered. At the end tho you actually have to think. Zed and Amil were fused, and in order to keep peace and have no more destruction that had to happen. The entire series basically foreshadow this last event. Zed was always one to follow the wind. and at the end that is what he was doing. I will say this tho before the ending credits were over I was like "wtf" then when they showed Zed I was like "oohhhhh I get it haha!!" And If you didn't notice at the end Noa was in a wheel chair. Ever consider that his time was almost up? Since he no longer had his key spirit maybe that completely did it for him? At the beginning they were talking about how terrible Noas body was and that one day was like living 10 days or something. Yeah I remember. =] And I believe he said something about the shards making him strong along with his key spirit. I just think tht he couldn't go back because of his health and he rather not let Sagiri see him in such state... anyways - like I said if you feel that you were given so many holes go re-watch it because you missed something somewhere along the lines. I was extremely happy with the ending but like any hardcore fan I would love to see more. HAHA!! Anyways last episode was great!!! Loved it. So glad that I happened upon this series!! I was skeptical at first but alls well now =]. - just saying =D! |
| ^ you rated this a 10, a masterpiece? Don't know what to say to that. Overall a fairly decent anime, I thought it ended nicely. But i can't really forgive the massive amounts of stupid this show had packed in it. Plot holes or not there was mass quantities of stupid scenes and poorly executed storyline with a "average" ending. Probably being generous, but this is gonna go down as a 7/10 for me. |
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| Double post, bleh |
brinanJan 3, 2010 9:07 PM
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| I couldn't think of any good animes too watch and had seen Kiba several times while searching for an anime to watch and was like "hmm..I can finish 51 episodes in no time." so i decided to watch. I loved this series especially the last couple of episodes, i teared up, probably i teared up the most was when - Zed's mother wanted power so badly she would even kill Zed for Amil Gaoul.- Kay kay, so at the end they fused together. Where did Zed end up though? Was that his hometown Calm, or still in the world of Spirits? Or is that the world inside Amil Gaoul? I didn't know they fused until they showed Zed at the end and I saw his eyes. I was like "OMFG, I want your f*kin eyes Zed!" and then the thought of Amil fused with Zed came to mind. Then he said "Let's go Amil." and bam! Wings. Loved it. A favorite series now. Roia!!! |
iiSatouJan 11, 2010 5:44 PM
| I think they lost some of their animators in the middle of the series or something. I noticed quite a downgrade in animation around the middle of the series. They really pulled off some decent animation in the end though. The last few episodes were full of fabulicious effects. I think he fused with Amil Gaoul and went back to Calm so he could keep the key spirits from being joined again. Though, it seems that they can shift to Calm, so... won't people shift to his home and hunt him down eventually? Not sure. Anyways, I don't understand why he would WANT to go back to Calm. There's no wind in the city. Doesn't he want to be in the land of the wind? It seems to go against his character. I don't see how that airplane made it to Calm... vhat? Sure, symbolism, but it should be explained. He must make one helluva good airplane if it can shift XD I would have preferred seeing Roia and Zed get together, Noa and Zed become friends again, and Noa come to see Sagiri again, but meh, w/e. They must love to break our hearts. Hair pulling bitter-sweet ending, the overplayed pokemon-esque style, loss of all semi-main characters, shifting paper airplanes, friends who should be together abandoning each other in the end, animation quality degrading towards the middle, Noa in a wheel chair, knowledge that the key spirits are still there and could be rejoined later..... etc etc.. I give it a 5/10. |
| It's a fairly decent anime compared to other animes we've been getting recently. I enjoyed this series and providing a synopsis and a full review seems to be a pain so I'll drop the flat rating. 8/10 There were plot holes and some flaws here and there but nonetheless, it was a good watch. The ending had me confused a bit. So he fuses with Amil Gaoul and becomes the true savior is what they were trying to convey I suppose. But he ended up in Calm? or rather our world? What was his purpose for leaving tempura and the world of shard casters? I don't quite understand the purpose. |
| Man, what an uneven anime. After the first half I was going for an 8, and thought this could be a niner, but, yeah, too unconsistent. I've seen shows of lesser quality that were better overall because of consistency (if you get my point). So it ended up a 7. But this one had the potential, which doesn't happen that often, so I enjoyed that. Good dimensional plot, various worlds, lots of characters, a few cool powers/invocs... all good. I didn't really mind all the plot holes, since in my eyes, what I really can't forgive is the character treatment. For almost no reason, the coolest iceberg-like characters (Dumas, Hugh, Sarah) started to act like crazies (and not even cool crazies). What a let down. I also expected Sagiri/Roya to play a bigger part in the end. Plus Robes that becomes an obvious drunk; and the whole Noa is also questionable... oh well. Fun anyway, no regrets! ^^ |
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| Finally, it's over. The plot holes and illogical parts made this show too ridiculous to enjoy. Everything just seemed so forced and the characters are all so shallow. And how is it that Roya with her special healing shard couldn't keep Noah healthy? Seriously, the ending was very unsatisfying. I did like it how all the characters got to make an appearance in this episode. |
| A very satisfying series I'd say! 8/10 from me I agree with everyone there were a lot of plot holes, but I thought the animation was good, the OST was outstanding (especially the gorgeous Bulgarian song/ Amir Gaul theme or whatever, I found myself listening to the song and ignoring the scenes showed :D ), the plot was a good combination in general. I've had it on my plan to watch list since a bit after it aired, but I saw it just now and don't know why I hadn't done it earlier. |
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| Such a beautiful anime that I just ended up watching, totally worth watching and even more since it’s not well known. |
d_agra said: Started great but it has so many problems. The inconsistences, the bad dialogue & writing, terrible pace and there so many plot holes that it spins my head. Characters popping in and out of nowhere ( hello Diane), characters changing personalities on a whim (dumas, noah, sara etc). I need to express again how horrible dialogue is. The following is the dialogue where Zed finds out about this father. "However, he was attacked by a Tuskan soldier who infiltrated Calm after him, and he was gravely injured. The one who happened to find and save him was your mother Sara.But injuries from the battle eventrually claimed his life leaving Sara and her unborn child behind." Unless Zed father got a quickie before dying I can't see how he is Zed'd father, the anime is filled with head scratching dialogue. 5/10 it was a retelling from a guy who wasn't 10/10 |
ItsCrisBoI said: What volume in the manga would ep 51 be No manga lol, this show is original |
| Even though there were many issues with this show Zed's character and the world-building brought it all together. This is for sure a 9/10 show for me. |
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