Princess Ashuna

opDYNO said:
Answering your last 2 lines


can't say i am enjoying it like some other airing animes, but it has quite different vibe to it and I want to see it through what happens to akari and about menou , so i haven't dropped it yet

kfsilver89 said:
Akari is no Mitsuki and that bothered me

EdgyLord666 said:
Same, Ashuna is clearly the best girl so far lol. I only dislike momo tho, she's just annoying man. I do hope she could get a character development because her banter with Ashuna is great.


I do wonder why you need to mention this?

kfsilver89 said:
So today I was going to drop the anime. I watch the first two episodes and hated the direction it went and I stopped caring about the characters. Menou I was indifferent about and her kind/sweet behavior irritated me. I hate Momo with a passion. After the twist where viewers needed to breathe Momo just suffocated me and I resent her and hated her personality. Akari is no Mitsuki and that bothered me but I was intrigued by her powers but not enough to continue the series. Episode 2 ended with introduction of Ashena but I didn’t care I was so done. Fast forward 3 weeks later… I had to watch this series to fulfill my 3 episode rule of either continue watching a series or dropping and wow.

Princess Ashuna convinced me to stick around! I love those types of characters! Leone from Akame Ga Kill, Mereoleona from Black Clover, Mirko from My hero academia, and so many to choose from! You can drop a character like Ashuna in any series and they’ll fit right in. Granted in my favorites is Aisha Clan Clan from outlaw Star, whom to me is the archetype of my obsession for these types of characters. But I stuck around because of her and after finishing episode 5 I do like the direction of where the story is going. It will be hard for me to like the other characters but the current antagonist and Ashuna really rejuvenated my interest in this series despite the first two episodes flopping for me.

What do you think about the series and Ashuna? Did you drop the series or are you still enjoying it? Also for anyone that does like Momo… no offense but why, I’m genuinely curious.

kfsilver89 said:
3 reasons: 1.) I was trying to be sly and not explain too much of the plot. 2.) Mitsuki is a familiar character trope within the genre… generic but familiar. 3.) As for Akira after all the events after the twist I ended up resenting her with her introduction… I’m not particularly familiar with her character trope… therefore I was not confident with the writer’s direction of the story. Menou I’m getting hawks my hero academia vibes from… but I hate his character. So any kind of interaction between Menou and Akira I’m hesitant to care about.

kfsilver89 said:
So today I was going to drop the anime. I watch the first two episodes and hated the direction it went and I stopped caring about the characters. Menou I was indifferent about and her kind/sweet behavior irritated me. I hate Momo with a passion. After the twist where viewers needed to breathe Momo just suffocated me and I resent her and hated her personality. Akari is no Mitsuki and that bothered me but I was intrigued by her powers but not enough to continue the series. Episode 2 ended with introduction of Ashena but I didn’t care I was so done. Fast forward 3 weeks later… I had to watch this series to fulfill my 3 episode rule of either continue watching a series or dropping and wow.

Princess Ashuna convinced me to stick around! I love those types of characters! Leone from Akame Ga Kill, Mereoleona from Black Clover, Mirko from My hero academia, and so many to choose from! You can drop a character like Ashuna in any series and they’ll fit right in. Granted in my favorites is Aisha Clan Clan from outlaw Star, whom to me is the archetype of my obsession for these types of characters. But I stuck around because of her and after finishing episode 5 I do like the direction of where the story is going. It will be hard for me to like the other characters but the current antagonist and Ashuna really rejuvenated my interest in this series despite the first two episodes flopping for me.

What do you think about the series and Ashuna? Did you drop the series or are you still enjoying it? Also for anyone that does like Momo… no offense but why, I’m genuinely curious.

EdgyLord666 said:

I see you just like a familiar character, don't you feel bored seeing similar character again & again?

Fail_Man_X said:
It's a shame Mitsuki wasn't so overpowered that he thwarted Menou's assassination attempt. Or better yet, he could have made her fall in love with his...main character status. Then, he could have her questioning everything she was taught after five minutes of being a nice guy, and they could have uncovered and foiled the evil church together with all the other girls who also fall in love with Mitsuki because reasons...

kfsilver89 said:
I hate everything you wrote. I would have dropped the series if that was what would happen just like how to summon a demon lord.

Sekirodiealotoft said:

Why do people want the same shit over and over again?

Sekirodiealotoft said:

Why do people want the same shit over and over again?

kfsilver89 said:
I think he’s being sarcastic but the point that needs to be made is that there are tropes that I hate but it still sells in Japan and it gets old really fast.

kfsilver89 said:
Well I said familiar not similar. An example would be watching a character that is dealing with grief. You can empathize with the character because you dealt with losing a love one. Because the way this story is structured it’s impossible to relate to a groomed assassin that fakes her emotions or an annoying brat that has the worst introduction to anime or an even overpowered character that just wants a friend to bathe with. It’s just imposible to relate to. As for Ashuna despite the fact shes a character I can’t relate to she is ‘similar’ enough to other anime character which makes her feel familiar to a story that kind of shot itself in the foot earlier on.

GalacticMagna said:
For now, it's meh. While the latest episode did answer the questions I had for the show it kinda felt underwhelming. Like it was stuff that was obvious when you look into more deep enough.

Not to even mention the characters are one note. Momo is just there and the only she's thing she's there for is be that clingy girl. And Akari is a bland plot device. Menou is a underdeveloped character, even despite her backstory it's really hard for me to even care about her.

Tbh, I don't know why am I even continuing it either, it's the worst anime I'm watching this season (not counting Dawn of the Witch considering I drop that one). I guess I wanna see where it goes will it improve or will stay uninteresting.

EdgyLord666 said:

I see you just want relatable character, still don't you feel bored seeing familiar characters again & again?

Sekirodiealotoft said:
I'm not referring to him in particular. I was only asking give how hung up people here are for the show trying something different

GalacticMagna said:


From looks of it, Momo is probably not gonna change much at from her backstory this episode where she met Menou. Maybe the princess would change her a bit but idk. As for Menou herself as I said just being an assassin isn't enough to be interesting, maybe when we get a bit more interaction with Akari she could open up a bit.

kfsilver89 said:
No because if the story is good and the characters drive the plot, then they develop into unique characters through their experiences but a character must establish a baseline. And if that baseline isn’t familiar then as a viewer we can’t understand him or her or their motivations.

daft_mariner said:
If I look at it from face value, five episodes in this show is boring. The twist in the latest episode could've been made into a more interesting twist in episode 1-2. This show's concept and world is ridiculous already, but I think a twist like that would've really added spice to it, and even brought more people on board for it. Instead, it was dragged out and now spoon-fed to us in overly dramatic way. They should've come out guns blazing. If you're not going to explain things and lay the area where the surprise is, until the surprise, just show it already. It became really predictable overtime. And as I expected, the reasoning behind it was completely out of the blue.

That whole train sequence was COMPLETELY unnecessary, and it's partly because of Akari. She just feels like a sore spot on the cast that doesn't have much going for her. We're told in the first episode that she's important, but she's had minimal presence all things considered. It's to insert more adventure for Menou and Akari to connect, but all of it feels too half-assed.

That being said, Ashuna is definitely interesting to me. Her fight during the train scene was just bad, but she still stands out from the rest. Her interactions with Momo are the best part so far. It's not just her personality either, her background and position gives potential for a lot of interesting storytelling. Thing is, with Menou and Akari being center, we probably won't see it go that far.

All in all, I'm still going to watch it. I wasn't going to drop it unless there was a really, really dumb and unnecessary moment. What really keeps me going is how they're going to handle this concept the story's author decided to churn out. It's hit or complete, utter dogshit miss.

EdgyLord666 said:

Now now mate, how about don't use "we" and just use "I", because I actually dislike a relatable character.

kfsilver89 said:
hold up lol now I’m interested. Because I don’t often meet people like you. But I heard viewers like you it’s just far popular before my time. Like nowadays, the average viewer which is why used ‘we’ the ‘audience,’ prefers characters that express emotions and have character flaws and have reasons to do things. But!!! In the old days, when it was black and white… good vs evil… there was Superman and Lex Luthor. Villains like snidely whiplash and the stereotypical twirl my mustache and be evil for the sake of just being evil. It used to work. Superman was the most popular hero because he’s virtually flawless and incorruptible inspire hope in others, before other writers decide to make him more human and more relatable, then taking it to the extreme with the injustice series. I respect it but I don’t meet viewers like you.

EdgyLord666 said:

Sorry mate, but I'm not talking about black & white characters. It's just empathy exist, so you don't need to relate to characters just to understand them.

kfsilver89 said:
Menou is unrelatable because she killed someone’s who trusted her and was beginning to consider her a friend and she felt NOTHING.

Ionliosite2 said:


This is actually not true, she actually feels sorry for them for being trapped in a fight in a world which isn't theirs, but she doesn't let her emotions get in the way of her work since she decided to be "the villain", that's why she even buried him; besides from that, the one feeling trust in Menou was Mitsuki, not Menou, and that was part of her work. Maybe the anime didn't convey it in the right way?

kfsilver89 said:
no the anime 3 episodes late to convey it right and even still Menou comes off as a sociopath. But I’m not bashing her. I don’t call character trash or whatever… maybe Hawks from My hero academia can be considered trash but that’s Shonen Jumps fault not the creator. I think that there should have been more facial expressions with Menou after she killed Mitsuki instead of her very simply justifying her actions through her brainwashed groomed mind. Menou expressing pity for other worlders don’t mean she cares. As for the whole friendship thing, yeah you’re right but he clearly thinks differently… thought lol differently.

Ionliosite2 said:


I see, well, Menou is kinda a sociopath yeah, that is part of what her training was about, going as far as lure Lost Ones with kind and friendly words to caught them off guard and stuff.

I don't think you called her trash anyways, at least I never saw you saying that. I think she is good but our opinions can differ, that's fine.

kfsilver89 said:
what do you think relatable means? Empathy? Do you mean sympathy? You can’t have empathy towards someone or a character unless you went through or going through something similar. You can’t empathize with someone grieving unless you’re grieving or have grieved before; otherwise it’s just sympathy. That you feel sorry that a character or a friend is going through a rough time. So let’s bring up the most shonen set up ever… a hero watches a friend dies and flies into a rage against the villain. Most likely as an audience never a situation happened before where we saw someone murdered in real life forget about a close friend of ours dying right before us. Most audience haven’t even squared off with a psychopath. But what we find relatable is the rage. Because some of us has experience intense moments of anger and that bit issss relatable and it’s exciting for us to watch a character go beyond. An UNRELATABLE character would watch a friend die and feel NOTHING. Or find a peaceful resolve with the villain… or instead of killing the villain… put him behind bars. Menou is unrelatable because she killed someone’s who trusted her and was beginning to consider her a friend and she felt NOTHING. Joker killed Robin and all Batman did was put him behind bars like business as usual. By relatable I don’t mean a self-insert character or what you would be exactly how you are in an anime world. That’s lol that’s pretty extreme.

kfsilver89 said:
So today I was going to drop the anime. I watch the first two episodes and hated the direction it went and I stopped caring about the characters. Menou I was indifferent about and her kind/sweet behavior irritated me. I hate Momo with a passion. After the twist where viewers needed to breathe Momo just suffocated me and I resent her and hated her personality. Akari is no Mitsuki and that bothered me but I was intrigued by her powers but not enough to continue the series. Episode 2 ended with introduction of Ashena but I didn’t care I was so done. Fast forward 3 weeks later… I had to watch this series to fulfill my 3 episode rule of either continue watching a series or dropping and wow.

Princess Ashuna convinced me to stick around! I love those types of characters! Leone from Akame Ga Kill, Mereoleona from Black Clover, Mirko from My hero academia, and so many to choose from! You can drop a character like Ashuna in any series and they’ll fit right in. Granted in my favorites is Aisha Clan Clan from outlaw Star, whom to me is the archetype of my obsession for these types of characters. But I stuck around because of her and after finishing episode 5 I do like the direction of where the story is going. It will be hard for me to like the other characters but the current antagonist and Ashuna really rejuvenated my interest in this series despite the first two episodes flopping for me.

What do you think about the series and Ashuna? Did you drop the series or are you still enjoying it? Also for anyone that does like Momo… no offense but why, I’m genuinely curious.

Sekirodiealotoft said:
Am i the only one that loves princess ashuna's design

TheCupSlammer said:


while im not surprised that people dont like momo, i do but because of her backstory... ive read the manga up to just past the current arc. tbh so far in that sense ashuna is my least fav, mainly because i liked momo and menou's backstorys and theres a sequence with akari that intreagued me near the end of this arc.

Violet42 said:
There's a lot in this series that is potentially interesting, but Ashuna's the only outright fun major character (although Flare seems cool in a twisted way). She was introduced being kind of crazy, but her dialogue with Momo in the most recent episode shows she's perfectly capable of being rational and even playful.

also I loooooove her design, and the idea of a princess who is an ultra-powerful swordswoman. also, MAO