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Mar 22, 2022 1:00 PM
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the titans or the rumbling specifically acts like nukes in real life so the balance of power is greatly in favor for the holder of nuclear codes aka the founding titan

Eren then "i will kill all the titans" so is he right all along? /s nah just kill the titan genes or titan biology

again the 50 year plan is better since in at least 50 years genetic editing can be achieved in their world to remove the titan genes in every eldians

so thoughts?
Mar 22, 2022 1:05 PM
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eren doesnt want to sacrifice historia or his freedom so its not an option even
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Mar 22, 2022 1:06 PM
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50 year plan is modernization plan while relying on the power of the founder. It doesn't include any gene editing.
Mar 22, 2022 1:09 PM
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50 year plan is modernization plan while relying on the power of the founder. It doesn't include any gene editing.


its not but it can be added considering Ackermans are products of Titan Science and there is blood test for identifying Eldians so Genetics Science is present in their world

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eren doesnt want to sacrifice historia or his freedom so its not an option even


its a what if scenario
Mar 22, 2022 1:14 PM
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Better make a thread regarding plan of hange's, Zeke's, Armin's, eren's and any other left to compare it and to get to know which one is best so far.

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Mar 22, 2022 1:51 PM
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That’s not the problem though. Eren could probably remove all Titan biology at any point now (unless Ymir prevents that somehow) but if their Titan powers are removed, Eldians will still be oppressed and killed and they will only lose their main strength in battle, so it means they’d need even more time to catch up in military power to the rest of the world.
Mar 22, 2022 1:53 PM
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That’s not the problem though. Eren could probably remove all Titan biology at any point now (unless Ymir prevents that somehow) but if their Titan powers are removed, Eldians will still be oppressed and killed and they will only lose their main strength in battle, so it means they’d need even more time to catch up in military power to the rest of the world.


the 50 year plan involves Eren passing on the Founding Titan to Historia and her children though until the titan powers become obsolete compared to human weapons technology
Mar 22, 2022 2:06 PM
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the titans or the rumbling specifically acts like nukes in real life so the balance of power is greatly in favor for the holder of nuclear codes aka the founding titan

Eren then "i will kill all the titans" so is he right all along? /s nah just kill the titan genes or titan biology

again the 50 year plan is better since in at least 50 years genetic editing can be achieved in their world to remove the titan genes in every eldians

so thoughts?
this plan is morally and logically, if not the best, one of the bests in the series. The only things here:
1) historia should be sacrificed (no! I don't want that)
2) the detitanization(if spelled it right) won't happen, which is actually a very big deal, who knows if someone like grisha and eren won't break the peace again in the future? But you're saying here that by genetic engineering and stuff like that, they can do it another way. Idk if it's even possible but let's say it is. Then it's literally a perfect plan yet ruined by eren's selfishness
Mar 22, 2022 2:11 PM
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LeonYeager said:
deg said:
the titans or the rumbling specifically acts like nukes in real life so the balance of power is greatly in favor for the holder of nuclear codes aka the founding titan

Eren then "i will kill all the titans" so is he right all along? /s nah just kill the titan genes or titan biology

again the 50 year plan is better since in at least 50 years genetic editing can be achieved in their world to remove the titan genes in every eldians

so thoughts?
this plan is morally and logically, if not the best, one of the bests in the series. The only things here:
1) historia should be sacrificed (no! I don't want that)
2) the detitanization(if spelled it right) won't happen, which is actually a very big deal, who knows if someone like grisha and eren won't break the peace again in the future? But you're saying here that by genetic engineering and stuff like that, they can do it another way. Idk if it's even possible but let's say it is. Then it's literally a perfect plan yet ruined by eren's selfishness


ye the only thing bad about this plan is historia and her children will still eat each other for at least 50 years
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deg said:
LeonYeager said:
this plan is morally and logically, if not the best, one of the bests in the series. The only things here:
1) historia should be sacrificed (no! I don't want that)
2) the detitanization(if spelled it right) won't happen, which is actually a very big deal, who knows if someone like grisha and eren won't break the peace again in the future? But you're saying here that by genetic engineering and stuff like that, they can do it another way. Idk if it's even possible but let's say it is. Then it's literally a perfect plan yet ruined by eren's selfishness


ye the only thing bad about this plan is historia and her children will still eat each other for at least 50 years
there were many suggestions in the fandom(and the series itself) as an alternative to the rumbling(mini rumbling, 50y plan and so on), but detitanization was never considered in those, and as the ft has to be passed, it always gets to historia and her kids so ig full rumbling is really the way to go around for eren
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The 50 year plan is typical of people with no deep ties to their people or history. You're essentially preserving one or two generations at most and then telling them to figure it out.

The Yeagerists are thinking 500+ years down the road when the Eldian Empire will be entering its Golden Age.
Mar 22, 2022 3:28 PM
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Zekkenshin said:
The 50 year plan is typical of people with no deep ties to their people or history. You're essentially preserving one or two generations at most and then telling them to figure it out.

The Yeagerists are thinking 500+ years down the road when the Eldian Empire will be entering its Golden Age.


Armin said it himself the Eldians of the future will fight over the Titan Powers too sooner or later so they need a plan to get rid of the Titan Powers once and for all
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If the founder could just smh delete the Titan curse, they would’ve done it. But they can’t, because the titans were created by the creature. Can they kill the creature aka “life”? Pretty sure they can’t. What they can do though is sever the link between the creature and Ymir. That’s how you stop the curse and by not doing studies and altering genes.


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deg said:
the titans or the rumbling specifically acts like nukes in real life so the balance of power is greatly in favor for the holder of nuclear codes aka the founding titan

Eren then "i will kill all the titans" so is he right all along? /s nah just kill the titan genes or titan biology

again the 50 year plan is better since in at least 50 years genetic editing can be achieved in their world to remove the titan genes in every eldians

so thoughts?



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OP, you're also one of those who say it'd be in best interest of Ukraine if they just capitulated to Russia, huh?

50 year plan is still genocide against Eldians. Screw that.
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Mar 23, 2022 10:34 AM
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RamanathPai said:
deg said:
the titans or the rumbling specifically acts like nukes in real life so the balance of power is greatly in favor for the holder of nuclear codes aka the founding titan

Eren then "i will kill all the titans" so is he right all along? /s nah just kill the titan genes or titan biology

again the 50 year plan is better since in at least 50 years genetic editing can be achieved in their world to remove the titan genes in every eldians

so thoughts?



Historia will have to consume Eren to get the founding titan powers and they will pass on the titan powers to the next generation until genetic editing is ready

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OP, you're also one of those who say it'd be in best interest of Ukraine if they just capitulated to Russia, huh?

50 year plan is still genocide against Eldians. Screw that.


no? the 50 year plan includes the rumbling of all military bases and passing of the founding titan powers until genetic editing is ready

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Historia cannot consume Eren, she wouldn't be able to use the FT's power because of Karl Fritz's Vow Of Renouncing War. Historia has to consume someone else, or just become a pure titan, and Eren must touch her in her titan form to activate FT's power. And when Eren's time is up, someone else gotta consume him and keep the rumbling threat on while touching titan Historia.
Mar 23, 2022 11:01 AM
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Historia cannot consume Eren, she wouldn't be able to use the FT's power because of Karl Fritz's Vow Of Renouncing War. Historia has to consume someone else, or just become a pure titan, and Eren must touch her in her titan form to activate FT's power. And when Eren's time is up, someone else gotta consume him and keep the rumbling threat on while touching titan Historia.


well Zeke is royal blood but he dispel the vow against war though so Isayama can do the same in this what if scenario
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deg said:
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Historia will have to consume Eren to get the founding titan powers and they will pass on the titan powers to the next generation until genetic editing is ready




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Mar 23, 2022 11:17 AM
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deg said:


Historia will have to consume Eren to get the founding titan powers and they will pass on the titan powers to the next generation until genetic editing is ready


No. She doesn't need to. All this time, the power of titans was passed within the royal family, by consuming the former's spinal fluid. If the spinal fluid is consumed, then the power of titan is passed down. But, if the founding titan holder doesn't get consumed by another person and gets killed[There is more to it, which even I honestly don't understand], Then every titan will turn back to humans. The shitty manga ending that everyone was talking about, is the above thing that happens. So, If Eren dies now, while he is controlling the power of founder titan, Every titans will lose their power and turn back to humans


err that is just your own interpretation since that was never mentioned, if that is true then Grisha eating Frieda will make the titans lose their powers since they are both in Titan form when they fought

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No. She doesn't need to. All this time, the power of titans was passed within the royal family, by consuming the former's spinal fluid. If the spinal fluid is consumed, then the power of titan is passed down. But, if the founding titan holder doesn't get consumed by another person and gets killed[There is more to it, which even I honestly don't understand], Then every titan will turn back to humans. The shitty manga ending that everyone was talking about, is the above thing that happens. So, If Eren dies now, while he is controlling the power of founder titan, Every titans will lose their power and turn back to humans


err that is just your own interpretation since that was never mentioned, if that is true then Grisha eating Frieda will make the titans lose their powers since they are both in Titan form when they fought

Eating a titan and killing a titan are two different things over here. It's not my interpretation. I'm feeding you with manga ending.

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deg said:


err that is just your own interpretation since that was never mentioned, if that is true then Grisha eating Frieda will make the titans lose their powers since they are both in Titan form when they fought

Eating a titan and killing a titan are two different things over here. It's not my interpretation. I'm feeding you with manga ending.




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deg said:
RamanathPai said:

Eating a titan and killing a titan are two different things over here. It's not my interpretation. I'm feeding you with manga ending.





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deg said:
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Historia cannot consume Eren, she wouldn't be able to use the FT's power because of Karl Fritz's Vow Of Renouncing War. Historia has to consume someone else, or just become a pure titan, and Eren must touch her in her titan form to activate FT's power. And when Eren's time is up, someone else gotta consume him and keep the rumbling threat on while touching titan Historia.


well Zeke is royal blood but he dispel the vow against war though so Isayama can do the same in this what if scenario

Because he made it there without being tainted by the vow, like he himself said, which is why he could act against it. He wasn't the holder of the FT, it was Eren, he was there through Eren.
Mar 23, 2022 11:35 AM
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well Zeke is royal blood but he dispel the vow against war though so Isayama can do the same in this what if scenario

Because he made it there without being tainted by the vow, like he himself said, which is why he could act against it. He wasn't the holder of the FT, it was Eren, he was there through Eren.


ok fair enough someone is gonna consume Eren instead then
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