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Mar 21, 2022 6:38 AM
#1
| First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. |
Mar 21, 2022 6:41 AM
#2
| Floch has earned his position of leadership among the yeagerists and has more than amply proven his organisational and administrative talents. He established yeagerists right under the nose of the military government, leaked info at the right time to gain maximum public support, recruited people into yeagerists from all the three branches of the military, performed a perfect political assassination that left him not hanged but being in charge and was acting leader of paradise during the rumbling. Not bad for someone who considered himself a fodder. Hatin floch is ok, but if you can't see where he was and where is now, how much impact he had now, how developed his character is now, then I seriously have nothing to say to you. |
Mar 21, 2022 6:44 AM
#3
TheFounder131 said: Floch has earned his position of leadership among the yeagerists and has more than amply proven his organisational and administrative talents. He established yeagerists right under the nose of the military government, leaked info at the right time to gain maximum public support, recruited people into yeagerists from all the three branches of the military, performed a perfect political assassination that left him not hanged but being in charge and was acting leader of paradise during the rumbling. Not bad for someone who considered himself a fodder. Hatin floch is ok, but if you can't see where he was and where is now, how much impact he had now, how developed his character is now, then I seriously have nothing to say to you. "Shinzou wo sasageyo" Erwin ultra lite (leader) just kidding lol |
Mar 21, 2022 6:45 AM
#4
| the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. |
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Mar 21, 2022 6:46 AM
#5
TheFounder131 said: First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. This recent episode was beyond perfect So many things happened and the execution and the animation was top tier MAPPA hearing critisisms and delivered everything 12/10 episode And I am warning you next episode will be 15/10 Ok to this episode Floch ,he did it for eldia,Shinzo wo sassageyo |
Mar 21, 2022 6:47 AM
#6
TheFounder131 said: First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. This recent episode was beyond perfect So many things happened and the execution and the animation was top tier MAPPA hearing critisisms and delivered everything 12/10 episode And I am warning you next episode will be 15/10 Ok to this episode Floch ,he did it for eldia,Shinzo wo sassageyo |
Mar 21, 2022 6:47 AM
#7
Mar 21, 2022 6:52 AM
#8
Akash_11 said: TheFounder131 said: Floch has earned his position of leadership among the yeagerists and has more than amply proven his organisational and administrative talents. He established yeagerists right under the nose of the military government, leaked info at the right time to gain maximum public support, recruited people into yeagerists from all the three branches of the military, performed a perfect political assassination that left him not hanged but being in charge and was acting leader of paradise during the rumbling. Not bad for someone who considered himself a fodder. Hatin floch is ok, but if you can't see where he was and where is now, how much impact he had now, how developed his character is now, then I seriously have nothing to say to you. "Shinzou wo sasageyo" Erwin ultra lite (leader) just kidding lol agreed! floch the real king and probably the only reason I'm sticking to AOT. If it wasn't for plot armor yeagerists would've annihilated cringevengers. |
Mar 21, 2022 6:56 AM
#9
| King Floch's suicidal charge >> Mikasa blowing up soldiers |
Mar 21, 2022 7:00 AM
#10
| I love floch’s character and think he is one of the best written characters in aot, but I can’t stand his fan base flochchads are annoying as fuck. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:01 AM
#11
SUPERX4PANDA said: I love floch’s character and think he is one of the best written characters in aot, but I can’t stand his fan base flochchads are annoying as fuck. not as annoying as shipper 💀 |
MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate Your taste is trash. Cope, seethe, mald |
Mar 21, 2022 7:05 AM
#12
| What really bothers me is Mikasa's anime original scene, don't get me wrong it was cool but Mappa didn't have to make it that brutal tbh, it felt like they wanted to make the Alliance look more morally grey but in reality it just felt really evil and it left me a bit conflicted. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:06 AM
#13
| dont worry his plot armour will not hold for long anymore. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:12 AM
#14
evoniee said: SUPERX4PANDA said: I love floch’s character and think he is one of the best written characters in aot, but I can’t stand his fan base flochchads are annoying as fuck. not as annoying as shipper 💀 fr, fanbase has became cancer thanks to thEM |
Mar 21, 2022 7:13 AM
#15
| I think it was kinda plot armor but also not. It's kinda like a worse version of season 3 vs Kenny's soldiers in the underground church. In that fight the point was that the smoke plan made the fight advantageous for the protags. The difference in this fight is the yeagerists are actually relatively inexperienced fighters compared to the bonafide veterans of the alliance. That makes it a bit less plot armor for me, although a part of me wished floch succeeded because he did so well and gave everything. I was literally hyping him up watching his suicide charge like floch is definitely certified badass, even if he is a villain imo. Always been a floch fan, till the end 😭 |
Mar 21, 2022 7:13 AM
#16
animu007 said: dont worry his plot armour will not hold for long anymore. Read the post before commenting. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:14 AM
#17
evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:14 AM
#18
animu007 said: dont worry his plot armour will not hold for long anymore. "his(floch)"? ohh no I think you meant their(alliance) |
Mar 21, 2022 7:14 AM
#19
4nimehunter said: Akash_11 said: TheFounder131 said: Floch has earned his position of leadership among the yeagerists and has more than amply proven his organisational and administrative talents. He established yeagerists right under the nose of the military government, leaked info at the right time to gain maximum public support, recruited people into yeagerists from all the three branches of the military, performed a perfect political assassination that left him not hanged but being in charge and was acting leader of paradise during the rumbling. Not bad for someone who considered himself a fodder. Hatin floch is ok, but if you can't see where he was and where is now, how much impact he had now, how developed his character is now, then I seriously have nothing to say to you. "Shinzou wo sasageyo" Erwin ultra lite (leader) just kidding lol agreed! floch the real king and probably the only reason I'm sticking to AOT. If it wasn't for plot armor yeagerists would've annihilated cringevengers. ... What? You do realize you just said this when Floch literally survived the walls crumbling on himself, right? |
Mar 21, 2022 7:15 AM
#20
| who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding |
Mar 21, 2022 7:15 AM
#21
| I think it was kinda plot armor but also not. It's kinda like a worse version of season 3 vs Kenny's soldiers in the underground church. In that fight the point was that the smoke plan made the fight advantageous for the protags. The difference in this fight is the yeagerists are actually relatively inexperienced fighters compared to the bonafide veterans of the alliance. That makes it a bit less plot armor for me, although a part of me wished floch succeeded because he did so well and gave everything. I was literally hyping him up watching his suicide charge like floch is definitely certified badass, even if he is a villain imo. Always been a floch fan, till the end 😭 |
Mar 21, 2022 7:17 AM
#22
Fax001s said: animu007 said: dont worry his plot armour will not hold for long anymore. Read the post before commenting. nah, later maybe. TheFounder131 said: animu007 said: dont worry his plot armour will not hold for long anymore. "his(floch)"? ohh no I think you meant their(alliance) not really :I |
Mar 21, 2022 7:18 AM
#23
racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. |
MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate Your taste is trash. Cope, seethe, mald |
Mar 21, 2022 7:20 AM
#24
evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:21 AM
#25
racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia |
Mar 21, 2022 7:25 AM
#26
TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia For his plan? He took advantage of the fact that she was pregnant to force Zeke to be important, so they wouldn't turn her into a titan? The ending wasn't bad at all. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:25 AM
#27
Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:26 AM
#28
| It's really painful watching mikasa kill her former comrades like they were titans 😭😭 |
Mar 21, 2022 7:26 AM
#29
| It's really painful watching mikasa kill her former comrades like they were titans 😭😭 |
Mar 21, 2022 7:29 AM
#30
TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed |
Mar 21, 2022 7:32 AM
#31
racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia For his plan? He took advantage of the fact that she was pregnant to force Zeke to be important, so they wouldn't turn her into a titan? The ending wasn't bad at all. Eren is no one to say historia to get pregnant, atlast it was historia's decision. Also pregnancy plot was irrelevant asf. Zeke was already secured by wine plan, he was no near to be getting eaten. titan curse disappeared so even if historia inherited beast titan it wouldn't have made much difference pregnancy plot just ruins historia's Character cause she got pregnant just to save her own skin, she had the child not out of love but to save herself, completely opposite of historia's Character but same as her mom. So pregnancy plot was irrelevant, badly written plot point. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:36 AM
#32
Khushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. your explanation doesn't validates the plot armour. Even Levi got injured after fighting in season 3 but these people are just...... |
Mar 21, 2022 7:36 AM
#33
TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia For his plan? He took advantage of the fact that she was pregnant to force Zeke to be important, so they wouldn't turn her into a titan? The ending wasn't bad at all. Eren is no one to say historia to get pregnant, atlast it was historia's decision. Also pregnancy plot was irrelevant asf. Zeke was already secured by wine plan, he was no near to be getting eaten. titan curse disappeared so even if historia inherited beast titan it wouldn't have made much difference pregnancy plot just ruins historia's Character cause she got pregnant just to save her own skin, she had the child not out of love but to save herself, completely opposite of historia's Character but same as her mom. So pregnancy plot was irrelevant, badly written plot point. It wasn't about the wine, it was about Zeke being treated well, and being captured to be moved to Paradis. Also, what do you mean it's out of character? Historia was the same person to say humanity should be destroyed, in that infamous cave scene that everyone loves. She's selfish. That's who she is. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:41 AM
#34
racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia For his plan? He took advantage of the fact that she was pregnant to force Zeke to be important, so they wouldn't turn her into a titan? The ending wasn't bad at all. Eren is no one to say historia to get pregnant, atlast it was historia's decision. Also pregnancy plot was irrelevant asf. Zeke was already secured by wine plan, he was no near to be getting eaten. titan curse disappeared so even if historia inherited beast titan it wouldn't have made much difference pregnancy plot just ruins historia's Character cause she got pregnant just to save her own skin, she had the child not out of love but to save herself, completely opposite of historia's Character but same as her mom. So pregnancy plot was irrelevant, badly written plot point. It wasn't about the wine, it was about Zeke being treated well, and being captured to be moved to Paradis. Also, what do you mean it's out of character? Historia was the same person to say humanity should be destroyed, in that infamous cave scene that everyone loves. She's selfish. That's who she is. "Zeke being treated well" lmfao you are watching aot right?? Yeah she is somewhat selfish but not this much selfish that she would get pregnant to save herself, literally same as mother. you are soo much deluded in thinking that aot is masterpiece which is actually not after the ending that you can't see the actual and obvious flaws in the story. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:43 AM
#35
TheFounder131 said: Floch has earned his position of leadership among the yeagerists and has more than amply proven his organisational and administrative talents. He established yeagerists right under the nose of the military government, leaked info at the right time to gain maximum public support, recruited people into yeagerists from all the three branches of the military, performed a perfect political assassination that left him not hanged but being in charge and was acting leader of paradise during the rumbling. Not bad for someone who considered himself a fodder. Hatin floch is ok, but if you can't see where he was and where is now, how much impact he had now, how developed his character is now, then I seriously have nothing to say to you. he is a fine written character and I love him (he is my 4th favourite aot character) , he's atleast better than all the characters in the alliance for me , Idc about what others say , I just genuinely like him |
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Mar 21, 2022 7:46 AM
#36
TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: TheFounder131 said: racers551 said: evoniee said: racers551 said: evoniee said: the fact eren only told king floch and historia about his plan says something. Huh? It means the people he will be fine with manipulating? Floch is his tool. stop with the head canon, the story already over, read the manga. Yeah, the manga shows him using Historia and Floch for his plan. I've read this manga 9 times. yeah ending was garbage, still I don't see how tf he used historia For his plan? He took advantage of the fact that she was pregnant to force Zeke to be important, so they wouldn't turn her into a titan? The ending wasn't bad at all. Eren is no one to say historia to get pregnant, atlast it was historia's decision. Also pregnancy plot was irrelevant asf. Zeke was already secured by wine plan, he was no near to be getting eaten. titan curse disappeared so even if historia inherited beast titan it wouldn't have made much difference pregnancy plot just ruins historia's Character cause she got pregnant just to save her own skin, she had the child not out of love but to save herself, completely opposite of historia's Character but same as her mom. So pregnancy plot was irrelevant, badly written plot point. It wasn't about the wine, it was about Zeke being treated well, and being captured to be moved to Paradis. Also, what do you mean it's out of character? Historia was the same person to say humanity should be destroyed, in that infamous cave scene that everyone loves. She's selfish. That's who she is. "Zeke being treated well" lmfao you are watching aot right?? Yeah she is somewhat selfish but not this much selfish that she would get pregnant to save herself, literally same as mother. you are soo much deluded in thinking that aot is masterpiece which is actually not after the ending that you can't see the actual and obvious flaws in the story. What? Historia is selfish enough to get pregnant. Of course she is. Where do you see that she's this selfless person in season 3? In fact, she's the opposite, with Ymir being gone. She gets to choose her own path. Also, yes, it is a masterpiece. And you won't change my mind about that. |
Mar 21, 2022 7:46 AM
#37
TheFounder131 said: it's not about story can be better or not it is about it is good or not, and it is goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour |
Mar 21, 2022 8:01 AM
#38
evoniee said: SUPERX4PANDA said: I love floch’s character and think he is one of the best written characters in aot, but I can’t stand his fan base flochchads are annoying as fuck. not as annoying as shipper 💀 They are both bad camps to be in |
Mar 21, 2022 8:10 AM
#39
Khushal_v said: this battle was not written well at all imo, it was stupid.TheFounder131 said: it's not about story can be better or not it is about it is good or not, and it is goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour |
Mar 21, 2022 8:12 AM
#40
TheFounder131 said: whether you like it or not most people like this battle enough to give ep 11 9.9/10 rating on imdbKhushal_v said: this battle was not written well at all imo, it was stupid.TheFounder131 said: Khushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour |
Mar 21, 2022 8:17 AM
#41
Khushal_v said: if rating mean something then kny season 2 wouldn't have been rated more than vinland sagaTheFounder131 said: whether you like it or not most people like this battle enough to give ep 11 9.9/10 rating on imdbKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: it's not about story can be better or not it is about it is good or not, and it is goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour |
Mar 21, 2022 8:19 AM
#42
TheFounder131 said: I am not talking about rating on mal it is shit, I am talking about rating on imdb which is genuinely goodKhushal_v said: if rating mean something then kny season 2 wouldn't have been rated more than vinland sagaTheFounder131 said: Khushal_v said: this battle was not written well at all imo, it was stupid.TheFounder131 said: it's not about story can be better or not it is about it is good or not, and it is goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour |
Mar 21, 2022 8:27 AM
#43
Khushal_v said: they aren't generally good, they are same site as mal but with more normies using it. Also don't forget botting happens in the both the apps. TheFounder131 said: I am not talking about rating on mal it is shit, I am talking about rating on imdb which is genuinely goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: whether you like it or not most people like this battle enough to give ep 11 9.9/10 rating on imdbKhushal_v said: this battle was not written well at all imo, it was stupid.TheFounder131 said: it's not about story can be better or not it is about it is good or not, and it is goodKhushal_v said: TheFounder131 said: nah, it was a great episode either you say it was because of animation or bgm or the character development of magath, floch ( yes I said it), annie etc or the story to set up a great grayish situation Khushal_v said: who the f*ck care it was an amazing episode whether you hate it not won't change the fact also, mikasa is a Ackerman so that explains why she wasn't killed jean was killing yeagerist by hiding, so he was secured connie also have great experience of killing both titans and humans magath isn't commander for nothing, for him to be killed off easily others are either titans or are just hiding people just see some good animation and consider it as amazing episode, demon slayer is probably masterpiece with your logic. And I did answered the question why no one from alliance was killed it would have been soo much better for the story if someone died from the scout side. They would have realised the path they have taken is difficult to walk on but I never said anyone has to be killed but no one from the scouts even got injured, not single one of them got shot by bullet. This what my problem is. This is what we call insane plot armour. And literally every show out there has more or less plot armour Also I don't speak for everyone this ep was bad imo. |
Mar 21, 2022 9:00 AM
#44
| As a character he's really well written probably more well written than majority of the main sidecast of the show definitely top 5 aot characters |
Mar 21, 2022 9:13 AM
#45
TheFounder131 said: First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. I agree with every word you just said! To be honest i was on Floch side during the entire episode (even though i don't like his type of nationalism, outside the context of the story), especially when i saw Mikasa and Annie killing the yeagerist in the most brutal way possible... As anime only i hope Annie dies before the end of the story. |
Mar 21, 2022 9:32 AM
#46
| Holy fuck it’s not that deep chill lmao |
Mar 21, 2022 10:54 AM
#47
| I feel so bad for Floch and his guys who were annihilated by alliance, hope Floch survived, because I think he was only shot in the shoulder |
Mar 21, 2022 11:11 AM
#48
Za_Panda said: Mikasa stans on twitter are defination of cancerTheFounder131 said: First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. Damn that youtuber/reactor is based Honestly speaking. Seeing bozos on twitter spamming cringey shit for mikasa in ALL CAPS while she was killing her former comrades was quite something. It said a lot about our Susciety |
Mar 21, 2022 11:13 AM
#49
JackB001 said: I appreciate it. Feels good when people agree with your opinion.TheFounder131 said: First of all gonna debunk some critiscism against floch. "He is a coward, he just want to stay in power, he doesn't care abt survival of his people, he is weak" People who just want to stay in power, who are coward doesn't fight on frontlines and floch literally lead the yeagerists in every situation. If just wanted to stay in power he could have just stayed away from the battles. Floch literally took on 2 titan shifters and scouts commander at the same and if wasn't for the plot armour, he probably would have blown the ship. Where coward? Even before this ep Floch being coward and weak wasn't even an logical argument, just haters making nonsense arguments against him after they can't find anything to shit on him. How can you say he doesn't care abt his people?? When in his speech he was soo much clear abt it When Floch decided to join the survey corps he thought of the suicide charge mission to retake wall Maria as something beneficial, but in fact it was just dying as fodder to protect the experienced soldiers. Floch got told as a rookie to die along with all the other soldiers who was a part of the suicide charge that's the moment Floch’s view of the SC had changed entirely and him being the last survivor from that mission benched on him as survivor guilt. Floch's carrying on Erwin's will within the military and became the "devil" himself he was looking for. Floch being left traumatized and struggled alone with that while his friends Gordon and Sandra had died back then. It does something to you and this is what we can see as the result of trauma, oppression and survivors guilt which becames a cause within Floch’s mentality. You can literally see Whenever his comrades dies, how much he feels bad for them, he probably remembers the horror of the suicide charge. Floch is just trying to do-: to survive and to fight what's important to him. The future and the safety of paradise became his top priority. He himself lived his whole life as a cattle within the walls without knowing outside world that wishes that his people should perish. People like 50 year old maggot who is probably the most racist and fascist guy cause he "redeemed himself" but hates 19 year guy who is trying survive and payback after getting oppressed for several years. Now abt the plot armour So you are telling there was a fight between 4 titan shifters (in which one of them had lost its sense) and 4 scouts (in which one of them is Ackerman) and one marleyan general with atleast 50+ yeagerists in which almost all the yeagerists died without injuring any of the scouts? Tf? No they didn't died they were wiped out in the most inhumane way. I am not saying yeagerists should win but not a single scout or maggot was even shot, no they weren't even injured at all. Not a single yeagerists was able to shoot any scouts nor they were able to even shoot the big ass ship but gabi shot one bullet in the entire fight and hits floch In mid air, absolutely bullshit. It was a badly written fight, animation somewhat saved it. This type of fight I saw in typical action movies were few people are able to kill army of 100 never thought it will also happen in aot. I agree with this, I won't lie I got soo much emotional seeing the yeagerists getting brutally murdered by the alliance. And people are enjoying seeing this horrendous act. Yeagerists getting killed literally gave me flashbacks of season 1, I was literally crying. But probably people will like annie now cause she is now on the "good" side. I agree with every word you just said! To be honest i was on Floch side during the entire episode (even though i don't like his type of nationalism, outside the context of the story), especially when i saw Mikasa and Annie killing the yeagerist in the most brutal way possible... As anime only i hope Annie dies before the end of the story. |
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