| ahh yeah yeah i def get what you mean. especially with this show where i can't even argue that it was gonna end "happily", so i knew all of them were gonna get redeemed and turn to better people. which isn't bad, and i dont hate at all though with how they started the "dark/mature" themes i think they could've ended some better. especially miranjo's. everyone forgiving her on spot just because she went through something horrible (which i also feel bad for) was so đź’€ it felt like undermining her actions to me. she and her mother, her village were innocent good people when they were wronged, yes. but what about the hundreds and thousands of innocent people SHE wronged? did that just not matter anymore bc She went through something bad as well???? and if we're going with the "peace and forgiving" route they could've still forgave her, but how about a few years later? where she is already doing things to try to atone for her sins. |
Duberr said: every character is being redeemed that's not the only problem of the second cour. pacing was too fast, the whole arc felt kinda rushed. the mystery elements are all gone, and tension went downhill. again, bojji dev arc felt rushed, he did zero to hero in no time. personally didn't like the plot convenience of hiling and daida healing power and how it was used all the time. plus, but that's just my opinion, I didnt like how it was handled bosse and miranjo relationship, I didn't care for those characters and I still don't, they didn't grow on me. |
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| yeah, yeah I totally feel that. This show is so different from the shounen formula we get most of the time and I think that's why ppl felt weird about it I don't mind if all the characters get redeemed or if none of them die, bc I don't feel that's the point of this anime?? it's still an amazing anime with great characters and a story I want to keep following, they could give us a whole season of bojji learning how to cook and I would absolutely LOVE it!! |
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| It is random,predictable,weirdly paced and most importantly,doesnt carry the feelings like the first half did |
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| The "everyone can be healed no problem" really lowered the stakes, Bojji is borderline invincible now, and I think Daida marrying Miranjo is a terrible idea. I'm still on the edge of my seat with the story, but if things can be fixed and people forgiven so easily, it's less compelling. |
| this show has really fallen off hard. this is why u dont crown a show "___ of the year " before it stops airing. if its second half is as bad as this has been |
RaMdsC said: I am going by first impressions on these few points. - The first half sets high expectations for the second half, so the negative criticism is probably oversized. - Redeeming is not bad until the point in which it diminishes the meaning of the story, there is no meaning if there are no consequences, and Ouken is the embodiment of that. The point at which this happens depends on the viewer. For me, the second half reaches this point. - Kage's character development flattens even before reaching the second half, with few exceptional peaks. There are other characters that I liked until the end, particularly the three brothers. Overall, I liked the narrative elements of the story (which I think are the main value of this series), and how they were presented in the 1st half. During the 2nd half I couldn't suspend my disbelief enough to like their unfolding, but I would understand if other people can. I thought I was the only person bugged by Kage's character in the second half. I think, generally speaking ,a lot of the incredible world building and character development in the first half were because of the slower pace they took, whereas the second half it felt like they were rushing and trying to jam the whole story in, and as a result the subtleties of several characters just went out the window, and I felt like this was most apparent in Kage, who essentially just becomes a cheerleader. I still like the show, but the show went from having near masterpiece potential to stumbling over itself. I definitely agree though that the negative criticism is unnaturally inflated because of the high expectations set by the first half. |
| Like, I get what it's doing, and id totally be on board to have a happy ending where everyone is redeemed, but the execution of how it went in the last few episodes was... wonky I guess. For me, It's still an 8 for now, but it did lose my 9/10 I had for a good chunk of its airing because I did have a few bad whiplashes while watching these last few episodes. I'm just hoping the last episode doesn't get too bad to the point that I'm considering going lower. |
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Flakbeard said: Look at how boji was unsure whether or not to forgive dormas for attempting to murder him by pushing him off a cliff (Which the blame can literally be traced back to miranjo) That is a normal ass reaction. IF anything boji should of been mad at dormas for longer. But miranjo who actually did kill someone. Boji's own mother or Her "husbands" step mother in law gets off with literally nothing? Bro all villians got trauma why is she getting off so easily. Bojji also sees his mother tell Miranjo she has forgiven her. She also saved his life by healing him, and I think he's seen part of the misfortune she faced although I might be misremembering that last part (everything just went too fast in second half for me to remember). Anyways, obviously for most people the person that killed their mom would be unforgiveable. But then again, most people don't see their mother talking to Miranjo from across the river Styx, and Bojji is clearly set aside to a higher standard than other characters in the show (because he is best boi). His father's dying wish also ends up being that they save Miranjo. Part of the point is that all villains have trauma. In reality, most people that seem like villains in the real world aren't straight up villains. Most of them aren't the devil or Hitler. Granted, Miranjo did worse than "just" killing Bojji's mother, but then again what she did is also nothing compared to what the "gods" did to her people, and are likely trying to do to all peoples. I agree though, she definitely got off too easily. I'm hoping that we end up seeing her working her ass off in penance for what she did. |
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