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Mar 7, 2022 5:43 AM
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Does anyone have any info from author Q/a or anything even speculation? It would have been very interesting to know what stance commander Erwin would have taken with eren's genocide plan, would thins have been vastly different if he was around? I feel there would be no jaegarist's, they started following eren since Hange was a much weaker leader than Erwin (who could have become the devil instead of Eren) if Erwin were still here, and Erens plan may have gone very very differently. ANY AND ALL SPECULATION IS WELCOME.(NO shipping plz XD)
Mar 7, 2022 5:45 AM
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SpRayquaza11 said:
Does anyone have any info from author Q/a or anything even speculation? It would have been very interesting to know what stance commander Erwin would have taken with eren's genocide plan, would thins have been vastly different if he was around? I feel there would be no jaegarist's, they started following eren since Hange was a much weaker leader than Erwin (who could have become the devil instead of Eren) if Erwin were still here, and Erens plan may have gone very very differently. ANY AND ALL SPECULATION IS WELCOME.(NO shipping plz XD)
I think erwin would have just retired after learning the truth tho, he did thirst to learn the truth , maybe after learning of it he would have just lost his zeal .
Mar 7, 2022 5:49 AM
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he will replace floch role and become aot biggest villain
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Hiro4ka11 said:
he will replace floch role and become aot biggest villain
I doubt hed work under eren, I see him either opposing him or not interfering in general
Mar 7, 2022 5:51 AM
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Erwin is more mature than the entire cast of AoT combined. He wouldn't just lose his zeal and abandon humanity or paradis. Saving them is equally important for him. He sacrificed himself for humanity afterall. He would lead a conquest for world domination instead of absolute genocide.
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Erwin is more mature than the entire cast of AoT combined. He wouldn't just lose his zeal and abandon humanity or paradis. Saving them is equally important for him. He sacrificed himself for humanity afterall. He would lead a conquest for world domination instead of absolute genocide.
How would he have opposed eren ho, in a similar fashion as Hange did? hange even if unknowingly caused a rift in survey corps jaegarists and others , I doubt such a situation would be possible ith erwin around, hence eren would ave been powerless to cause the havoc he did in season 4 part 1 without erwins help.
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Erwin was a nationalist, however he still had common sense and was a very rational person. His love for his nation would have not pushed him to support Eren, if anything he would do his best to prevent Eren from ever starting the rumbling. Things would've gone very differently if he were alive. I still believe letting Armin live was the wrong choice, I don't hate him or anything, but the world wouldn't have gone to shit if Erwin was there.
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SpRayquaza11 said:
Does anyone have any info from author Q/a or anything even speculation? It would have been very interesting to know what stance commander Erwin would have taken with eren's genocide plan, would thins have been vastly different if he was around? I feel there would be no jaegarist's, they started following eren since Hange was a much weaker leader than Erwin (who could have become the devil instead of Eren) if Erwin were still here, and Erens plan may have gone very very differently. ANY AND ALL SPECULATION IS WELCOME.(NO shipping plz XD)
If Erwin were here , he would have allied with Mid-East allied nations for military advantage and Hizuru for trade. We already saw his potential in overthrowing the corrupt government with negligible bloodshed. Erwin only devises cruel plans when he has no choice. He would have clearly overthrown Marley from within. In my opinion , Erwin is much like Eren Kruger not Eren Yeager. Both had their fathers killed by the corrupt government and they both died entrusting the next generation to succeed.

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BerserkerArmorr said:
Erwin was a nationalist, however he still had common sense and was a very rational person. His love for his nation would have not pushed him to support Eren, if anything he would do his best to prevent Eren from ever starting the rumbling. Things would've gone very differently if he were alive. I still believe letting Armin live was the wrong choice, I don't hate him or anything, but the world wouldn't have gone to shit if Erwin was there.
yes I think erens rumbling plan would have failed immediately since no jaegarist faction would be born.
Mar 7, 2022 6:02 AM
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Commander Erwin did countless things for the humanity no one can count them in one post
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sammymahesh said:
SpRayquaza11 said:
Does anyone have any info from author Q/a or anything even speculation? It would have been very interesting to know what stance commander Erwin would have taken with eren's genocide plan, would thins have been vastly different if he was around? I feel there would be no jaegarist's, they started following eren since Hange was a much weaker leader than Erwin (who could have become the devil instead of Eren) if Erwin were still here, and Erens plan may have gone very very differently. ANY AND ALL SPECULATION IS WELCOME.(NO shipping plz XD)
If Erwin were here , he would have allied with Mid-East allied nations for military advantage and Hizuru for trade. We already saw his potential in overthrowing the corrupt government with negligible bloodshed. Erwin only devises cruel plans when he has no choice. He would have clearly overthrown Marley from within. In my opinion , Erwin is much like Eren Kruger not Eren Yeager. Both had their fathers killed by the corrupt government and they both died entrusting the next generation to succeed.
true ain't it? i think allying with the anti pardis country like marley or any other with their enemies like the black dudes country would have been a way more feasible plan with erwins wit and perfect control on his soldiers they could totally wing it.
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AliGG23 said:
Commander Erwin did countless things for the humanity no one can count them in one post
I know but that's not what I am asking:/ , I am asking what would he do if he was around right now in the series , would he stop eren since the beginning ? would he do so when he knew genocide plan? or would he let it happen?or would have taken a completely different approach?
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SpRayquaza11 said:
AliGG23 said:
Commander Erwin did countless things for the humanity no one can count them in one post
I know but that's not what I am asking:/ , I am asking what would he do if he was around right now in the series , would he stop eren since the beginning ? would he do so when he knew genocide plan? or would he let it happen?or would have taken a completely different approach?

I think Erwin will not just stop Eren, he will kill him cuz he is now the enemy of the world and the will be the demons that Marley were talking about
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If Erwin stayed alive, Eren wouldn't have been demoralized. Zeke would've been pressured to come to Eldia's side to enact his plan. It would have to go through Erwin. Erwin would dissuade Zeke from the Euthanasia plan and instead Zeke team up, pressuring Marley to negotiate and learn the truth of Eldia, make amends and everyone can hope for peace.
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>Isayama said it himself the dead scouts like Erwin will never say "as long as the island have freedom then that is all that matters"

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If Erwin stayed alive, Eren wouldn't have been demoralized. Zeke would've been pressured to come to Eldia's side to enact his plan. It would have to go through Erwin. Erwin would dissuade Zeke from the Euthanasia plan and instead Zeke team up, pressuring Marley to negotiate and learn the truth of Eldia, make amends and everyone can hope for peace.
eren could still betray erwin tho since only he has the final say in the control of the founding titan , I think he would have just killed eren and inherited the founding titan himself to make sure of it . that is how far he will go to ensure his plans work.
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AliGG23 said:
SpRayquaza11 said:
I know but that's not what I am asking:/ , I am asking what would he do if he was around right now in the series , would he stop eren since the beginning ? would he do so when he knew genocide plan? or would he let it happen?or would have taken a completely different approach?

I think Erwin will not just stop Eren, he will kill him cuz he is now the enemy of the world and the will be the demons that Marley were talking about
yep this is much more likely to happen , but what would happen to other titans now that founding titan is gone? he certainly would rather make himself or one of the his aides inherit it .
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>Isayama said it himself the dead scouts like Erwin will never say "as long as the island have freedom then that is all that matters"

true so he would have certainly made erens plan fail right from the get go.
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There's a reason Isayama wrote him out. I'm sure things wouldn't have escalated in the first place with him still around.

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SpRayquaza11 said:
iamKetranLang said:
If Erwin stayed alive, Eren wouldn't have been demoralized. Zeke would've been pressured to come to Eldia's side to enact his plan. It would have to go through Erwin. Erwin would dissuade Zeke from the Euthanasia plan and instead Zeke team up, pressuring Marley to negotiate and learn the truth of Eldia, make amends and everyone can hope for peace.
eren could still betray erwin tho since only he has the final say in the control of the founding titan , I think he would have just killed eren and inherited the founding titan himself to make sure of it . that is how far he will go to ensure his plans work.
No one gets anything out of betraying Erwin whether Eren or Zeke if it means Eldia would survive. The founding titan won't even be needed and dropped entirely since if Zeke joins Eldia early would mean the truth comes out. Reiner, Gabi would question why he left and the rest of Marley would find out, without ever fighting each other again as enemy. And if the truth comes out, Marley would be pressured to peace.
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I think if Erwin were alive it wouldn’t have come that far like now
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he will replace floch role and become aot biggest villain

... Why? The dude said he wasn't sure what he wanted after he found the basement.
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FMmatron said:
There's a reason Isayama wrote him out. I'm sure things wouldn't have escalated in the first place with him still around.
Erwin was too powerful :"D
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he will replace floch role and become aot biggest villain

... Why? The dude said he wasn't sure what he wanted after he found the basement.
yeah I think he would just retire to a beach resort after his hunger for truth was satisfied . as funny as it sounds it was entirely possible hed lose his interest after that
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Erwin would probably either go with the planned mini-rumbling or just 100% full rumbling. Nothing in between.
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SpRayquaza11 said:
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There's a reason Isayama wrote him out. I'm sure things wouldn't have escalated in the first place with him still around.
Erwin was too powerful :"D


At the very least things would've been way more intriguing with him as a player. Though, it's also harder to write an arc with a genius like.

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FMmatron said:
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Erwin was too powerful :"D


At the very least things would've been way more intriguing with him as a player. Though, it's also harder to write an arc with a genius like.
atleast he was sent off like a badass , so i wont complain.
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At the very least things would've been way more intriguing with him as a player. Though, it's also harder to write an arc with a genius like.
atleast he was sent off like a badass , so i wont complain.


Yeah, I'm grateful that he wasn't ruined xD

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FMmatron said:
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atleast he was sent off like a badass , so i wont complain.


Yeah, I'm grateful that he wasn't ruined xD
true its a shane he has lesser favorites than levi or eren even surely if he was around now , those numbers would be so different xD
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The reason floch became the biggest villain of AOT is because He was the sole survivor of Zeke's massacre. He wanted to save Erwin because he wanted him to suffer by living rather than die peacefully. Even his pseudo patriotism for Paradis was because he was drunk with pride over the fact that he survived that frenzy kill alone and he has to make other living people suffer as he suffered(just my speculation).

Erwin on other hand, I feel is a pacifist. Of course he fought back only when needed to fight. He wanted to avoid unnecessary fights and killing as it is stupid to do that. He'd have definitely kept Eren under his fist because I noticed that Eren had great respect for Erwin.
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eren could still betray erwin tho since only he has the final say in the control of the founding titan , I think he would have just killed eren and inherited the founding titan himself to make sure of it . that is how far he will go to ensure his plans work.
No one gets anything out of betraying Erwin whether Eren or Zeke if it means Eldia would survive. The founding titan won't even be needed and dropped entirely since if Zeke joins Eldia early would mean the truth comes out. Reiner, Gabi would question why he left and the rest of Marley would find out, without ever fighting each other again as enemy. And if the truth comes out, Marley would be pressured to peace.

But at that time Zeke was delusional that Eren was brainwashed by Greesha. That was why he was interested in kidnaping him in return to Shiganshina arc, right?
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No one gets anything out of betraying Erwin whether Eren or Zeke if it means Eldia would survive. The founding titan won't even be needed and dropped entirely since if Zeke joins Eldia early would mean the truth comes out. Reiner, Gabi would question why he left and the rest of Marley would find out, without ever fighting each other again as enemy. And if the truth comes out, Marley would be pressured to peace.

But at that time Zeke was delusional that Eren was brainwashed by Greesha. That was why he was interested in kidnaping him in return to Shiganshina arc, right?
yes , but he mistook the fact that the final say of using in ymirs powers lies with him, because , it didn't.
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Erwin would probably sacrifice Historia and go with mini-rumbling, but if that wasn't an option, he would be on Eren's side, imo.
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Erwin would probably sacrifice Historia and go with mini-rumbling, but if that wasn't an option, he would be on Eren's side, imo.
hmm this panel seems to indicate that he would also prefer elimination
Mar 7, 2022 8:12 AM
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Erwin is the person who destroyed city and let his soldiers die for sake his own curiosity to know what outside the wall

I think He is not the person who will take Hange side in this situation


Anyway Armin is great mistek.
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Erwin is the person who destroyed city and let his soldiers die for sake his own curiosity to know what outside the wall

I think He is not the person who will take Hange side in this situation


Anyway Armin is great mistek.
true that perhaps eren would have ad an easier time with erwin, but I have faith that erwin would have found a better solution than genocide.
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Erwin died because he was an anti vaxxer, L character🥱
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it would have been a different yet a great ending in AOT if commander Erwin was revived....
he would actually make the situation in control and would make everyone in control...
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imo, his character doesn't really coincide to this topic. He'd probably do the same as Hange because he'd think of his fallen comrades wondering of where their hearts they dedicated go
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imo, his character doesn't really coincide to this topic. He'd probably do the same as Hange because he'd think of his fallen comrades wondering of where their hearts they dedicated go
he is way better of a leader than change tho , I doubt there would be a faction split if he was there
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I think Erwin would’ve solved the whole conflict a lot faster but he would’ve died to the rumbling
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to be honest since Erwin wanted to know the truth and reach the basement and was willing to sacrifice so much I think he would be just satisfied with finding out the truth, and in doing so at first would want to try and negotiate with the outside world which I don't doubt would most likely fail therefore knowing Erwin I feel like if he felt negotiations couldn't go further then I believe he wouldn't hesitate to go to war with the world, there are a lot of spots I could be missing here but I'm tired
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Erwin and his men weren't nationalists. They were people who saw themselves as humans (since that was what they were told growing up).... Which is why his entire generation of army commanders were wiped out by the Yeager sits, simply because cause they weren't nationalist enough.


If Erwin lived, he'd most likely sort a diplomatic way out first. He doesn't like unnecessary bloodshed. He'd likely have formed an Anti Marley alliance with Hizuru and The Mid East Fed like the other guy said. Alternatively, I can also see him leading an partial Rumbling against the world, destroying their military and forcing them to negotiate and come to a peace deal. That'd likely allow Eldia decades to modernize while the rest of the world rebuilds their forces.

Even in the future, I can see Eldia holding their own pretty well. They're an island after all, and it's hard to invade islands. They'd only need a modern navy and airforce. Plus the wall titans can be posted as sentinels along the coast to stomp out any invading force that manages to beat their navy
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Erwin and his men weren't nationalists. They were people who saw themselves as humans (since that was what they were told growing up).... Which is why his entire generation of army commanders were wiped out by the Yeager sits, simply because cause they weren't nationalist enough.


If Erwin lived, he'd most likely sort a diplomatic way out first. He doesn't like unnecessary bloodshed. He'd likely have formed an Anti Marley alliance with Hizuru and The Mid East Fed like the other guy said. Alternatively, I can also see him leading an partial Rumbling against the world, destroying their military and forcing them to negotiate and come to a peace deal. That'd likely allow Eldia decades to modernize while the rest of the world rebuilds their forces.

Even in the future, I can see Eldia holding their own pretty well. They're an island after all, and it's hard to invade islands. They'd only need a modern navy and airforce. Plus the wall titans can be posted as sentinels along the coast to stomp out any invading force that manages to beat their navy
wish this was the true ending , it makes so much more sense , i dont know why armin doesnt think of this before and negotiate with eren given he is supposed to be tactical genius , but you cant fault armin since he has zero control over eren unlike levi or erwin.
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SpRayquaza11 said:
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Erwin and his men weren't nationalists. They were people who saw themselves as humans (since that was what they were told growing up).... Which is why his entire generation of army commanders were wiped out by the Yeager sits, simply because cause they weren't nationalist enough.


If Erwin lived, he'd most likely sort a diplomatic way out first. He doesn't like unnecessary bloodshed. He'd likely have formed an Anti Marley alliance with Hizuru and The Mid East Fed like the other guy said. Alternatively, I can also see him leading an partial Rumbling against the world, destroying their military and forcing them to negotiate and come to a peace deal. That'd likely allow Eldia decades to modernize while the rest of the world rebuilds their forces.

Even in the future, I can see Eldia holding their own pretty well. They're an island after all, and it's hard to invade islands. They'd only need a modern navy and airforce. Plus the wall titans can be posted as sentinels along the coast to stomp out any invading force that manages to beat their navy
wish this was the true ending , it makes so much more sense , i dont know why armin doesnt think of this before and negotiate with eren given he is supposed to be tactical genius , but you cant fault armin since he has zero control over eren unlike levi or erwin.



The plan was discussed, it's just Eren went apeshit and rejected it cuz.. you know.
Erwin would probably try to find a way to neuter him after this.

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