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Jan 1, 2022 8:52 AM
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I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?
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Jan 1, 2022 9:00 AM
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ever heard of incest ;)
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Jan 1, 2022 9:01 AM
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Incest is wincest
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


They are cousins I think. Not sure if their first or second cousins. In fantasy worlds its not uncommon at all for cousins to hook up.

Actually, even in many parts of the world cousins still do this (especially developing countries).

But yeah theres much worse things than cousins hooking up in this show when it comes to morality. So if that bothers you than don’t watch it.

But honestly, its a work of fiction. Things like incest and morality shouldn’t matter at all to the viewer.

There’s a reason Game of Thrones is one of the most famous and popular shows ever created, despite it being riddled with incest and rape. It’s fiction and the story is excellent. Just because characters in a story may act immorally it has nothing to do with us viewers.
Jan 1, 2022 9:03 AM
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As I understand it, they are from separate branches of the family which would make them distant cousins. Not sure if there’s any info out there on how distant they are, though.
Jan 1, 2022 9:04 AM
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1. Incest
2. 60 year old in 14 year old body
3. Gropes her all the time
Hehehe absolutely chad lmao
Jan 1, 2022 9:06 AM
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Arickettsf16 said:
As I understand it, they are from separate branches of the family which would make them distant cousins. Not sure if there’s any info out there on how distant they are, though.
her father is Rudy uncle… Rudy father something rat, he is the brother of eris father. So basically they are literally cousins like no 2nd or anything straight related by blood
Jan 1, 2022 9:06 AM
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short answer: they are
long answer: dont worry about it. if you go deep into mushoku tenseis lore then the fact that they are related actually makes a lot of sense. more so than if they weren't.
Jan 1, 2022 9:07 AM
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TwoSideWarScythe said:
Arickettsf16 said:
As I understand it, they are from separate branches of the family which would make them distant cousins. Not sure if there’s any info out there on how distant they are, though.
her father is Rudy uncle… Rudy father something rat, he is the brother of eris father. So basically they are literally cousins like no 2nd or anything straight related by blood
GREYRAT that’s the name,
Jan 1, 2022 9:10 AM
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Nvm was mistaken actually 2nd cousin
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Nvm was mistaken actually 2nd cousin
Jan 1, 2022 9:11 AM
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i mean it was a pretty normal thing historically families would marry within to keep the bloodline pure and this anime takes place in those times
Jan 1, 2022 9:13 AM
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TwoSideWarScythe said:
Arickettsf16 said:
As I understand it, they are from separate branches of the family which would make them distant cousins. Not sure if there’s any info out there on how distant they are, though.
her father is Rudy uncle… Rudy father something rat, he is the brother of eris father. So basically they are literally cousins like no 2nd or anything straight related by blood


Just looked it up on the wiki and it says Eris’ father is Paul’s cousin, not his brother.
Jan 1, 2022 9:14 AM
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They're distant cousins. But it doesn't really bother me. I watched GOT and remember at the end of the first ep🤭
Jan 1, 2022 9:20 AM
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There second cousin's which is blood related and would not lead to any screwed up incest babies. I'm Not saying I think it's still totally fine that they do it though.
Jan 1, 2022 9:35 AM
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Why not? (15 words)
Jan 1, 2022 9:51 AM
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


The story of mushoku tensei plays in a middle agish era and in that era incest was normal later into the story there happens few other incest things (not related to rudeus) so like u don't need to compare everything u see in anime to this age or like anime cultures like lolis are not bad things in Japan but people from America just hate the Loli culture it's mostly just a cultural/era difference
Jan 1, 2022 10:50 AM
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They are first cousins once removed, so it's like a weak blood relation.
Jan 1, 2022 10:53 AM

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This happens in most of the anime, Japan is fucked up.

Jan 1, 2022 10:56 AM
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I mean simply put its a different world with different societal standards idrk why people overthink it
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I mean, it seems to be vaguely based on European society in the medieval period. Just like in another world with magic and all that jazz.

And yeah, cousins marrying each other was basically accepted practice. Often encouraged in richer families like Eris and Rudeus'. Well that's just my guess at least
Jan 1, 2022 11:42 AM

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Think of this as people from the Uchiha clan having babies with other people of the Uchiha clan.
Jan 1, 2022 11:54 AM
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


They are cousins so i meannnnnn



Jan 1, 2022 12:29 PM
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They are not cousins, you could say they belong to one clan and different branch families, and the branching had been going on for a very long time, considering the asura kingdom was a very old kingdom too, rudeus born in the branch of the notos family, eris was born in the branch of the boreas family.
Jan 1, 2022 1:00 PM
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?



Idk why everyone is saying incest, I mean yeah it is, but this is set in a medieval world, back in the day it was very common for cousins and distant family to end up together
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Arickettsf16 said:
As I understand it, they are from separate branches of the family which would make them distant cousins. Not sure if there’s any info out there on how distant they are, though.
no, they are direct cousins, Paul was just the younger brother, making him part of the branch family
Jan 1, 2022 4:10 PM
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Arickettsf16 said:
TwoSideWarScythe said:
her father is Rudy uncle… Rudy father something rat, he is the brother of eris father. So basically they are literally cousins like no 2nd or anything straight related by blood


Just looked it up on the wiki and it says Eris’ father is Paul’s cousin, not his brother.


Basically, paul father and sauros is a distance relative but their parent are different. Sauros have a sister named Valentine, and Paul father, Amarant notos married with Valentine, so there is paul. So his relative comes from his mother. If you say that paul is Sauros uncle is not wrong but there is a miss if you say that he was related by his father. I got info from the game, and the game give you backstory to Paul from childhood and runaway from his house.
Jan 1, 2022 4:19 PM

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They are technically cousins, but very distant cousins. There are no biological problems with them getting together.

The Greyrat family has 4 main branches. Rudeus is from the Notos branch, while Eris is from the Boreas branch. The branches separated a long time ago, so they might as well not even be related anymore.
Jan 1, 2022 5:02 PM
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that's an easy one... Difference in cultures and environment. In the world of nobles and royals, what ur thinking of is completely normal. By the fact the Greyrats have multiple branches in their family should show this is a big family and every single child in the Greyrat family share blood albeit by multiple generations.
Jan 1, 2022 5:48 PM

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Cousins can get married and have regular children most of the time.
Rudeus and Eris are distant cousins, which means they probably barely share the same blood.
Jan 1, 2022 6:26 PM
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


In medieval Europe and in other royal families globally, they did this to keep the blood line pure and power within the family. Cousins still marry now but more so in developing countries and not for the same reasons they did in the past I don't think.
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


In medieval Europe and in other royal families globally, they did this to keep the blood line pure and power within the family. Cousins still marry now but more so in developing countries and not for the same reasons they did in the past I don't think.
Now they're for different reasons. I understand that there are traditions about cousin marriage in rural regions, but there's also discussion about the legality of the relationship between blood people (including marriage).

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Jan 1, 2022 6:51 PM

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They are barely related, but because they both have Greyrat last names it looks worse.

Trust me alot worse happens later.
Jan 1, 2022 8:44 PM
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They are only relative of a family tree
Jan 1, 2022 8:58 PM
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This is surprisingly more common in our world than you think. I am asian american born and raised in the U.S. and I’ve always found it gross to date/marry your cousin. But my parents, who have immigrated to U.S., do not. In fact, they actually asked if I was interested in dating my cousin, which I declined. Different cultures, different morals.
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Don't worry about it. Incest is just fetish material in anime and Mushoku Tensei isn't bucking the trend. It's a fetish here too.

Just anime being anime.
Jan 1, 2022 9:37 PM

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In the setting it's at, stuff like that can happen there. Hell, even Eris' own parents were down with Rudeus going for her when he was way younger so it's not like they would have been outraged with this shit happening. They be distant cousins so it could be way, way worse. Values from nowadays dont correlate necessarily with values in this isekai world exactly with differences like these, it aint comparable.
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Dunning krueger effect in this post is so strong bruh. Sauros's sister (sauros is eris grandfather) married to paul's father. That mean eris father is paul's cousin. That make eris and rudeus a second cousin. Greyrat are not their noble name. It's an old noble house that got branched to four. Eris noble name is boreas. Rudeus aren't a noble but paul noble name (before he run out of his home) is notos
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Don't worry about it. Incest is just fetish material in anime and Mushoku Tensei isn't bucking the trend. It's a fetish here too.

Just anime being anime.


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Jan 2, 2022 2:54 AM
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Eris BOREAS greyrat
Rudy NOTOS greayrat
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They are not closely related...also the story takes place in a mediaeval setting where incest is not considered bad.
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generation gap its a different time

still im too lazy to watch this sequel and im not willing to at the moment when new season is about to begin
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This thread is not even about MT, you are literally asking about why people do incest IN GENERAL... I guess you wouldn't know tho, since you didn't even watch the anime yet...
Jan 2, 2022 8:02 PM
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There fathers are cousins so that's how there realated in my opinion it isn't as bad as people make it
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Nvm was mistaken actually 2nd cousin
They are 1st cousins
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Their fathers are either brothers or first cousins. I can't recall which, but that makes Eris and Rudeus cousins nonetheless.

So called royal/noble families in Europe still intermarry. Prince Charles and Diana were cousins some how. And I believe their oldest son's (forget his name) wife is a distant cousin as well.
Jan 3, 2022 2:39 AM
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Rudeus is a man of culture and understands that incest is wincest.
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Salva01 said:
I haven't seen the anime fully yet, but I heard
Somebody could explain it to me, please?


They are cousins I think. Not sure if their first or second cousins. In fantasy worlds its not uncommon at all for cousins to hook up.

Actually, even in many parts of the world cousins still do this (especially developing countries).

But yeah theres much worse things than cousins hooking up in this show when it comes to morality. So if that bothers you than don’t watch it.

But honestly, its a work of fiction. Things like incest and morality shouldn’t matter at all to the viewer.

There’s a reason Game of Thrones is one of the most famous and popular shows ever created, despite it being riddled with incest and rape. It’s fiction and the story is excellent. Just because characters in a story may act immorally it has nothing to do with us viewers.


Incest has got nothing to do with whether a country is relatively devoloped or not. It has to do with culture and tradition. A country doesn't change that once it develops economically.
There are just some cultures where this kind of relation between cousins are totally acceptable.

Oftentimes, it happens among people with royal bloodline who would marry their own cousins just to have a pure bloodline without marrying someone from a different family.

Incest being illegal is more of a social rule of contemporary era. It was not that uncommon earlier.
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In medieval Europe and in other royal families globally, they did this to keep the blood line pure and power within the family. Cousins still marry now but more so in developing countries and not for the same reasons they did in the past I don't think.
Now they're for different reasons. I understand that there are traditions about cousin marriage in rural regions, but there's also discussion about the legality of the relationship between blood people (including marriage).
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In medieval Europe and in other royal families globally, they did this to keep the blood line pure and power within the family. Cousins still marry now but more so in developing countries and not for the same reasons they did in the past I don't think.
Now they're for different reasons. I understand that there are traditions about cousin marriage in rural regions, but there's also discussion about the legality of the relationship between blood people (including marriage).

I think you were trying to say "morality" and not "legality".

Well, they do not have a law banning incestuous relationship in their world. And incest isn't really 'morally' bad. After all, why genetic relationship should determine what the ideal standard of human bonds should be. It's just a social rule because some people just decided that it's weird to be attracted to a woman if she happens to be your cousin.
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Now they're for different reasons. I understand that there are traditions about cousin marriage in rural regions, but there's also discussion about the legality of the relationship between blood people (including marriage).
Rachiba said:
Now they're for different reasons. I understand that there are traditions about cousin marriage in rural regions, but there's also discussion about the legality of the relationship between blood people (including marriage).

I think you were trying to say "morality" and not "legality".

Well, they do not have a law banning incestuous relationship in their world. And incest isn't really 'morally' bad. After all, why genetic relationship should determine what the ideal standard of human bonds should be. It's just a social rule because some people just decided that it's weird to be attracted to a woman if she happens to be your cousin.
Yeah, it's that the whole issue comes down to the moral system that each society has on consensual relationships.

But in order not to deviate from the tread: In Mushoku Tensei there are worse things like murder, rape and slave trade, so why is this scene still a problem?

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