Mandatory vaccines violate basic human rights.

Digoligo said:
OP lost the argument when the Omicron Variant started fucking in the africa (which has, SHOCKINGLY, the least percentage of people vaccinated)

but yeah, keep thinking tha vaccine fucks with us, gives autism, yadayadayada.

I preffer being pummelled in the ground by a syringe than not vaccinating, not only that, this hive-mind mentality that vaccines are not good is one of the reasons covid's still around.

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Scordolo said:

I'm lost here. How is this racism? And I'll always see Anti Vaxxers as stupid beings. You won't change my mind on that.

Feircei said:


Prejudice of people you never met is racism, the fact that you don't even realize it explains your low education level.

the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.

paintpixie said:
I like reading threads like this, even though they typically devolve into bickering, because it does show you what people are thinking. I wish there was a way for people to come to an understanding with people they disagree with, but I guess that's as easy as trying to solve world peace, huh?

Still, being so polarized isn't very healthy. Better to hear your enemies out, in my opinion.

In my opinion, yes, we should have rules across the board or we shouldn't. We shouldn't get to pick and choose. This is not the bubonic plague. There's no reason why people shouldn't be able to make their own choices for their own health. Especially, since there are people who are unable to take the vaccines due to health risks, etc. making vaccines "mandatory" is dangerous. I think this has gotten to a point where it has been so blown out of proportion and politicized that there is no longer an easy solution to any of it.

Until people start listening to both sides, and not treating each other like the enemy, or like they are an out-right idiot just for disagreeing about something, anyway.

Scordolo said:

Your ignorance and your point of view on racism is on another level LMAO.
Here's the actual definition of racism

Racism is based on "Races" and not "Mindset".
I'm pretty sure you came from Twitter.

Kaasfondue said:
Not taking it violates other people's rights. You don't have a case lol

Feircei said:


Other people can take the vaccine, problem solved, no one is violated of their rights.

TubbyPangolin said:
This is an anime listing site, a private company which can choose to moderate their public forum however they want. Your understanding of free speech is about as accurate and Randy from Southpark.

Kaasfondue said:

Those who don't take up too much space and resources by their own choice.

Feircei said:


Elaborate please.

How is *not* taking a vaccine if you don't want to and letting only people afraid of the Rona take a waste of space and resources? On the contrary it saves resources.

GreyIllusion said:


Sure, might be the case since this is an anime website. Then why are Reddit, Youtube and other social media platforms silencing anyone who dares speak badly about the vaccine and/or mandates? Let's just call them 'uninformed' and censor anyone who has a different opinion and view. I've also seen people getting cancelled for simply stating that they are against mandatory vaccines.

Feircei said:


Hey guys! Look at him! He just did a Google research and also made another assumption about me!

Imagine being called out for prejudices and making baseless assumptions and instead of asking forgiveness, continuing making baseless assumptions.

Also learn to read, I said your comments follow the same BASE of racism, which is PREJUDICE. Learn to read duh.

Scordolo said:

I know how to read. I'm just not that good in English. I'm seeing that you have been arguing for the past couple of days. Don't you have a life? Also, you haven't answered my question in the second page of this thread. How the fuck is Covid another "Common Cold"?

Feircei said:


I haven't been arguing with anyone lol.
Also I have been on this thread for as long as you, the hypocrisy lol.

And I'm still waiting for you to say something along the lines of "I'm sorry".

TubbyPangolin said:
Those places also have the right to choose what you can and can't say or do on their websites. They are businesses and will do whatever they feel is in their best interests that also aligns with their personal beliefs.

Scordolo said:

You already lost the argument the moment you are avoided my question lmao. And I don't see why I should say "I'm sorry".

Scordolo said:

You already lost the argument the moment you are avoided my question lmao. And I don't see why I should say "I'm sorry".

Deathko said:
Western govts murder civilians and overthrow leaders every 6 months in the Middle East since the end of the Second World War, and drown the migrants in the sea: I sleep
Western govts try to vaccinate me to save my life: REEEEEEEEEH BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS WTF!!!?

thumbs up guys, you're real freedom and human rights heroes.

KaiserZz said:


Well, I wasn't talking about us paying. I was referring to all of the politicians, elites and companies (sure call me crazy all you want) making money off this 'vaccine'. Have you seen how much money Pfizer has been making off of this, let alone other companies? They'll never let this go. The more boosters, the better. Whether you want to believe me or not is up to you.

From the daily case counts I see here in my country, it is pretty much 50/50 between vaccinated and unvaxxed. Also not to mention that the omicron variant seems to be quite popular amongst the vaccinated, at least from what I've seen.

Spektral_Beast said:


It's true that there is capitalism to some extent but you motherfuckers, how will you have basic human rights when you can't fucking survive?

Feircei said:


ehm ehm ehm, just gonna say it 98.11% survival rate, so calm down the situation isn't so serious.
There's more people dying from eating burgers.

Also there's more people dying from pollution than people dying from corona, I don't see you spouting insults at anyone who drives a car or anyone who buys plastic.

Kaasfondue said:
Not taking it violates other people's rights. You don't have a case lol

MF_Kane said:
I've had two jabs and I won't be taking anymore. What's the point of getting jabbed and going through side effects when theyre just going to invent new variants?

Feircei said:


I think I do, google the total covid deaths and cases and calculate the deaths ratio, it's less than 2% death chance.
I fell in the sewers and had to swim in literal feces, I also almost died of gangrene.

I think nature was quite generous with me when she created my immune system.

Feircei said:


Do you acknowledge that if you are found infected, in most countries you are forced to go to the hospital even if you don't want to?

Feircei said:


In the middle ages real pandemics had between 12% to 90% death rate, not 1.89%
Good thing natural selection exists and the weak ones didn't survive so today we don't have to suffer the plagues.
I'd say we are stronger today because all those disseases wiped out the weak immune systems.

Just let everyone die and in 90 years, the next pandemic will have 0.189% chance of death.

No matter what you do, humanity will always kneel down and lose to nature, just let natural selection do it's course, it's better for the future of humanity.

Feircei said:


So someone with no side effects because his body is strong enough to take the virus, should put their own health at risk with a vaccine that has been literally proven to kill?

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.670370/full

^ this is no news article or anything, it's a literally scientific document.

For what? to not infect others born with a weak immunitary system?

So, it works like that:

Weaklings have 1.89% chance to die of covid, you are immune and your chance of death is 0%, now you take the vaccine and it becomes 0.0053%

Sounds ethical to force others to raise their chances of death from a dissease they are immune to?

Spektral_Beast said:


Natural selection is good. In fact, it's the best thing.

But what if Natural Selection decides every person you ever knew dies because well, good for the environment. Shouldn't you be happy that they died as a positive effect to Earth? Judging by this, shouldn't we celebrate when someone dies instead of mourning?

Spektral_Beast said:

btw the population's really high right now so why don't you go ahead and do mother earth a favor?

Feircei said:


In my culture we literally celebrate every death, we dance and feast and imagine they were dancing with us.

I'll ratther kill someone else if I had to choose between me and others. My life is worth a lot to me, just beacause I also enjoy berserk this doesn't mean I'm a depressed wimp with no lust for life.

Spektral_Beast said:


so everyone should dance and enjoy because people are dying

guys lets party people are fucking dying and families are losing their emotional and economical support LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Spektral_Beast said:


Don't worry. You've achieved the pinnacle of human evolution.

spacebunnies said:


death toll of the common flu in the US is somewhere between 12k - 52k from 2010 - 2020.
death toll of covid-19 in the US is approximately 780k.

inb4 u tell me this is propaganda. or better yet, be the prime example that anti-vaxxers are too superior to comprehend basic math.

Auron_ said:
Mildly hot take: all unvaxxed people without a medical condition that makes it so they can't be vaxxed should be refused service and left to their own devices in the event they contract covid and request medical assistance.

GreyIllusion said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10244297/Leading-cardiologist-says-cluster-collapses-footballers-likely-coincidence.html

It's just a coincidence, nothing to see here. Totally not related to the vaccine. Good example of the media and scientists brainwashing people.

Currently no evidence to suggest heart problems are becoming more common

Players suffering cardiac arrest is not a new problem. Former West Ham and Manchester City midfielder, Marc-Vivien Foe, died at 28 while playing for Cameroon in 2003 and ex-Newcastle United midfielder Cheick Tiote collapsed and died aged 30, while training with the Beijing Enterprises Group in 2017.

And it is not only elite players, who are affected. In September, 17-year-old Dylan Rich, a popular and talented left-winger for West Bridgford Colts, died after a suspected cardiac arrest during an FA Youth Cup game in Nottinghamshire.

Bolton Wanderers' Fabrice Muamba in 2012 and Porto goalkeeper Iker Casillas in 2019 are among those to have had lucky escapes.

Judevin said:
Perhaps if you read the article more carefully, you'd see it actually is a coincidence LOL.

I quote from the article:

I see all the dates pre-dating the existence of covid-19 or its vaccines, so good example of antivaxxers making a jump in logic tbh but carry on, lad.

GreyIllusion said:


The point is that there is an increase in footballers collapsing AFTER they have been vaccinated. And scientists and media dare call that 'just a coincidence'.

Currently no evidence to suggest heart problems are becoming more common

Judevin said:
Where does it say they are vaccinated in the article, please show.

GreyIllusion said:


The article doesn't mention if the players are vaccinated or not. There is not benefit in stating that the players are vaccinated because that would directly go against their narrative. On the other hand, they could have mentioned that the players were not vaccinated so we know for sure that the vaccine doesn't have anything to do with the increase in players collapsing.

A quick search on google says that a lot of football players are vaccinated, which leads you to think that the players that collapsed were indeed vaccinated as well https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/19/premier-league-68-per-cent-of-players-fully-vaccinated-against-covid And this is one month ago, the previous article is like one week ago.

Feircei said:


Should we also throw away and block people from entering hospitals if they buy plastic and consume burgers or drive cars?

All of these are choices that kill you and kill the people around you, and they have a higher kill count and death rate than corona.
Should you lose your right to a hospital if you eat a burger and purposely sicken your body?

By your logic if one doesn't take the vaccine they choose to be infected.

So if one eats like crap they choose to get cancer.

Judevin said:
So you are going to say 68% and then just assume some people's vaccine status? Why are you forcing your bias down people's throat? Why are you assuming stuff about people? What if they don't like being vaccinated? What if they have chosen to not get vaccinated? What if they are the 32%? You do realize that making medical history public like that regardless of being vaccinated or unvaccinated is not good for privacy also the reason why vaccine passports are so hated? Again, an interesting leap in logic there but alright.