Is eps 2 really that BAD?

Oct 13, 2021 12:36 AM

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No, it's not bad. Not as clean as episode 1, but I can understand why they didn't focus as much resources for it as episode 1, since this wasn't an action episode.

People love making drama about overblown stuff

Oct 13, 2021 12:37 AM

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Who tf is saying the episode 2 is bad!!?
We got to know how cosette turned into destiny and how Tákt lost his arm, and their backstory and regarding the animations they were really awesome in my opinion. like I don’t know what people want at this point…

Oct 13, 2021 12:39 AM

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Xacobe01 said:
No, it's not bad. Not as clean as episode 1, but I can understand why they didn't focus as much resources for it as episode 1, since this wasn't an action episode.

People love making drama about overblown stuff

Forreal. It was nice seeing the backstory of Takt and Cosette. People just want action action action lmao

Oct 13, 2021 12:43 AM

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Tanay-AnimeLover said:
Who tf is saying the episode 2 is bad!!?
We got to know how cosette turned into destiny and how Tákt lost his arm, and their backstory and regarding the animations they were really awesome in my opinion. like I don’t know what people want at this point…

those people on twitter, mosty AOT fans

Oct 13, 2021 12:49 AM

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People nowaday (most probably shounen fan) only like to watch action action action and dont really care too much on actually story.

Anime fandom nowaday, No Action Scene = Bad Anime. 💁

What a point watching an anime without any actual story.

Oct 13, 2021 12:51 AM

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I said its not bad,but its supper mediocre,its like the definition of a 7.5,it had ok-ish moment but most event are quite predictable

Oct 13, 2021 12:54 AM

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Episode 2 was not bad but it was handled differently from Episode 1. Madhouse handled Episode 1 entirely while MAPPA "handled" Episode 2 (Read: outsourced it to Studio VOLN). So if you tried to really pay attention there is a stark difference to shot composition/key animation/character design but overall parity was maintained and the way they handled the CG hands in the piano scenes was just lovely.

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Oct 13, 2021 1:06 AM

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Beside from the piano shading, I can’t spot ANY difference between 2 episodes. People are just making this become serious and I guess I should be expecting this because the MAPPA AOT hate are still there.

Dinxama said:
I said its not bad,but its supper mediocre,its like the definition of a 7.5,it had ok-ish moment but most event are quite predictable

We are talking about the animation here.

Oct 13, 2021 1:08 AM

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AbelNhom said:
Beside from the piano shading, I can’t spot ANY difference between 2 episodes. People are just making this become serious and I guess I should be expecting this because the MAPPA AOT hate are still there.

Dinxama said:
I said its not bad,but its supper mediocre,its like the definition of a 7.5,it had ok-ish moment but most event are quite predictable

We are talking about the animation here.

Then make it clear that you are talking about the animation,i see nothing that says that i should talk about the animation in this thread

Oct 13, 2021 1:09 AM

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People were just expecting this anime to be fighting D2s until they get to New York or whatever. Backstory and character building is what makes these anime original anime good. This stuff is needed. The animation in this episode was still good but just subpar to episode 1, but there's been way worse, people just overreact too much.

Oct 13, 2021 1:15 AM

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Ep 2 was a lot better than ep 1

Oct 13, 2021 1:18 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:

Tanay-AnimeLover said:
Who tf is saying the episode 2 is bad!!?
We got to know how cosette turned into destiny and how Tákt lost his arm, and their backstory and regarding the animations they were really awesome in my opinion. like I don’t know what people want at this point…

those people on twitter, mosty AOT fans

twitter is a joke don't take it seriously.

Oct 13, 2021 1:21 AM

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The only thing that I don't get is why the heck was there a music festival out in the open when the D2s are roaming freely! What sense does it make? The authorities allowed it, the people participated without a second thought and boom the expected happened. I really hope that they will have a good explanation ready for this.

PS: I know this thread is mostly about the Mappa vs Madhouse and other similar factors, but I wanted to make a general point.

Oct 13, 2021 1:32 AM

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Nope, people complain that AD work is less than the previous eps but I don't really see that. for me eps 2 looks fine. Moreover, this eps is reportedly transferred by MAPPA to VOLN studio which is their subsidiary. I understand that because maybe they put all their best staff on their 3 big projects Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen Movie, AOT Final Season Part 2. I think that's why they asked Madhouse to help them do Takt Op Destiny which is MAPPA's 10th anniversary project and the Movie "Alice To Therese No Maboroshi Koujou" are fully worked on by them.

Oct 13, 2021 1:35 AM

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It was decent, I guess people just expect action from this anime.

Oct 13, 2021 1:36 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:

Tanay-AnimeLover said:
Who tf is saying the episode 2 is bad!!?
We got to know how cosette turned into destiny and how Tákt lost his arm, and their backstory and regarding the animations they were really awesome in my opinion. like I don’t know what people want at this point…

those people on twitter, mosty AOT fans

Don't listen to AOTard, most of them are MAPPA haters especially after they were disappointed AOT Final Season Part 1 didn't get the same treatment as Jujutsu Kaisen.

Oct 13, 2021 1:43 AM

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What? It was bad? I didn't feel like that

Oct 13, 2021 1:46 AM

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Shrey_Hehe_ said:
The only thing that I don't get is why the heck was there a music festival out in the open when the D2s are roaming freely! What sense does it make? The authorities allowed it, the people participated without a second thought and boom the expected happened. I really hope that they will have a good explanation ready for this.

PS: I know this thread is mostly about the Mappa vs Madhouse and other similar factors, but I wanted to make a general point.

Probably because the Americans have a "in your face" attitude? Lmao

Oct 13, 2021 2:35 AM

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Nah, I don't really see much difference. Moreover, it seems that eps 2 was done entirely not by MAPPA but by VOLN studio. but VOLN studio did good job.

Oct 13, 2021 2:47 AM

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Maybe some people cant get over AOT

Oct 13, 2021 3:10 AM

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Madhouse did the first episode I'm not surprised Mappa couldn't keep the same consistent quality madhouse laid out.

Oct 13, 2021 3:11 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:
apparently, there's a drama about outsourcing stuff and how bad eps 2 quality is, do you think is really that bad?

i think the main reason for me is the piano playing scenes, its not as clean and natural looking as ep 1

Oct 13, 2021 3:12 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:
apparently, there's a drama about outsourcing stuff and how bad eps 2 quality is, do you think is really that bad?

i think the main reason for me is the piano playing scenes, its not as clean and natural looking as ep 1

Oct 13, 2021 3:12 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:
apparently, there's a drama about outsourcing stuff and how bad eps 2 quality is, do you think is really that bad?

i think the main reason for me is the piano playing scenes, its not as clean and natural looking as ep 1

Oct 13, 2021 3:13 AM

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Here is your Answer : 'NO'

Oct 13, 2021 3:20 AM

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Watermelon364 said:
Madhouse did the first episode I'm not surprised Mappa couldn't keep the same consistent quality madhouse laid out.

MAPPA didn't fully work on eps 2. Apparently MAPPA didn't even animate this episode and outsourced it to VOLN Studio. but I agree about Madhouse did a good job in eps 1.

Oct 13, 2021 3:22 AM

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I don’t think it was bad tbh. It felt somewhat decent since we get to see the backstory of them

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Oct 13, 2021 3:31 AM

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Nah, Episode 2 was good, probably people who say episode 2 was bad, are people who watch this anime because of the "action"

Oct 13, 2021 3:56 AM

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Not really. The vibes is just like the first one so if it don't change in the future then it's bad.

Oct 13, 2021 4:06 AM

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For me it's better than ep 1 and gives some promise to have a decent story at least. Remember episode of any anime is bad if you think it's bad. Everyone has their own taste and opinion, so you should decide by your feelings if it was bad :v

Oct 13, 2021 4:49 AM

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Episode 2 is MUCH MORE better than Episode 1, people have just too much time in their life to hate instead of appreciating the hardwork of other people.

Oct 13, 2021 4:58 AM

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i enjoyed the episode, i didn't mind the lack of action but there was a little bit of a disconnect in the animation from episode one

Oct 13, 2021 5:17 AM

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Who said it was bad? Great episode

Oct 13, 2021 5:43 AM

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Shrey_Hehe_ said:
The only thing that I don't get is why the heck was there a music festival out in the open when the D2s are roaming freely! What sense does it make? The authorities allowed it, the people participated without a second thought and boom the expected happened. I really hope that they will have a good explanation ready for this.

PS: I know this thread is mostly about the Mappa vs Madhouse and other similar factors, but I wanted to make a general point.

Because the simphonica goes there in order to protect the town where the festival is going on, keeping the D2s out of the town while people inside enjoy the music

Oct 13, 2021 5:45 AM

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Weaponchicken said:

DrkSeid69 said:
apparently, there's a drama about outsourcing stuff and how bad eps 2 quality is, do you think is really that bad?

i think the main reason for me is the piano playing scenes, its not as clean and natural looking as ep 1

What????? Those scenes specifically were done quite better in episode 2, what are you talking about

Oct 13, 2021 6:29 AM

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Who said that episode 2 is bad, MAPPA work was amazing thought it was not an action episode but it tells us the origin of Takt and Cosette powers.

Oct 13, 2021 6:33 AM

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No. Not really. There were some Animation movements that felt off but not that much to completely take away my enjoyment. This episode was not as clean as episode 1 either.

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Oct 13, 2021 6:41 AM

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How can this be bad???? BACKSTORY PPL, BACKSTORY
i mean yea the animation is not as smooth like ep1 but their hand while playing piano tho, idk if they played correct or not but im sure they put a lot of efforts into those hands

Oct 13, 2021 6:51 AM

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Nope, people complain that AD work is less than the previous eps but I don't really see that. for me eps 2 looks fine. Moreover, this eps is reportedly transferred by MAPPA to VOLN studio which is their subsidiary. I understand that because maybe they put all their best staff on their 3 big projects Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen Movie, AOT Final Season Part 2. I think that's why they asked Madhouse to help them do Takt Op Destiny which is MAPPA's 10th anniversary project and the Movie "Alice To Therese No Maboroshi Koujou" are fully worked on by them.

VOLN is a independent studio and not a subsidiary of mappa it's just they have ties with them since both were founded by ex madhouse animators also they did worked together on Ushio and Tora before anyways from what i heard that the schedule is tight too for a 1 cour anime which why the quality fall down from the first episode.

Oct 13, 2021 6:54 AM

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DrkSeid69 said:

Tanay-AnimeLover said:
Who tf is saying the episode 2 is bad!!?
We got to know how cosette turned into destiny and how Tákt lost his arm, and their backstory and regarding the animations they were really awesome in my opinion. like I don’t know what people want at this point…

those people on twitter, mosty AOT fans

Probably those people complained because there wasn’t any action. Both episodes were great

The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10

Oct 13, 2021 7:12 AM

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Nope, I actually thought it was much better than ep 1 imo. So apparently people are saying that the episode had a drop in animation and art, although that is completely false. Cause it's basically the same as the last episode. Yes there are a few differences if you put ep 1 and 2 side by side, but honestly people are just trying find something to nitpick at. Lol.

Oct 13, 2021 7:24 AM

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LMAOOO not even close to being bad, the backstory is good and their musical performance is awesome.

Oct 13, 2021 7:39 AM

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Bro Ep 2 was really good. Dude we got the backstory. It all makes sense now.

Oct 13, 2021 7:55 AM

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Lol what? The second episode was amazing.

Oct 13, 2021 8:49 AM

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Characters are generic but the plot was fine 6-7/10 for this episode.

Oct 13, 2021 8:55 AM

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Dinxama said:

AbelNhom said:
Beside from the piano shading, I can’t spot ANY difference between 2 episodes. People are just making this become serious and I guess I should be expecting this because the MAPPA AOT hate are still there.

We are talking about the animation here.

Then make it clear that you are talking about the animation,i see nothing that says that i should talk about the animation in this thread

the first post makes it clear it's about outsourcing which involves animation

Oct 13, 2021 8:56 AM

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Dinxama said:

AbelNhom said:
Beside from the piano shading, I can’t spot ANY difference between 2 episodes. People are just making this become serious and I guess I should be expecting this because the MAPPA AOT hate are still there.

We are talking about the animation here.

Then make it clear that you are talking about the animation,i see nothing that says that i should talk about the animation in this thread

the first post is about outsourcing which means they're probably talking about the animation quality

Oct 13, 2021 9:17 AM

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Is the story and characters (beyond the underlying premise) kinda generic and predictable? Yes, very much so far.

Was this episode bad or boring? No I wouldn't say so. Though the ending didn't really have an impact on me since I could exactly see what coming from a mile away.

Not everything has to be either terrible or amazing. Not everything has to be super original and mold breaking. I'd say lets give this a few more episodes before judging it.

Oct 13, 2021 9:23 AM

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Other than some weird hand movements,this episode is quite decent its nice knowing how Cossete/Destiny became what she is now but im still expecting some explanations down the line

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