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Jun 1, 2021 11:58 AM
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I genuinely have 0 clue how this show warrants a rating pretty close to 8 which means a show is pretty damn good for MAL standards to be honest.

Like, this entire show was boycotted in Japan lmao. Everything seems pretty average and despite having 12 episodes it legit feels like the story doesn't progress anywhere? Like, I still am perplexed at what this story was actually building up to in the end. Almost every character has had marginal development at best if any, and MC legit hasn't developed one bit. And the animation has so many inconsistencies it's hard to understand if the animators even paid attention to what they were doing at times.

I understand that people are a sucker of the unemotional character type, like Hachiman. However one thing to note is that despite Hachiman's seemingly unemotional and energy-less aura, he still develops a fair amount in every season of the SNAFU show, whilst keeping his original character trope. With this show though, it's just... average right?

There are a few things that I like such as the art style, the very intriguing school system, the cool island survival aspect as well. However everything else just feels half baked really. With all that being said I just can't see how this show is rated this highly. In my mind it belongs somewhere like 6.5-7.1 area. Personally a 6 to me though.

Do you guys agree with this sentiment? Anyone feel this anime is undeserving for the score it has? Or have I missed something like what the whole point of the show is about or something.
Jun 1, 2021 12:48 PM
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I never knew this anime was so beloved until I started actively looking at the Mal fourms.

And your quite rigth, a few elements like the animation and some of the OST tracks are quite good but the narritive is a disater(and apparently butchers the source) the characters are completely flat, self contradictory and inedneering and the story goes no where.

It's a solid 6/10, maybe a 6.5. It fails o accomplish its mission statement, is a slightly above average production and is overall unremarkable.

I've got no issue with any one who does it enjoy it, nothing wrong with watching a show for some ligth entertainmebt but certainly not an 8 by mals high standards.
Jun 1, 2021 1:04 PM
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momentie said:
I never knew this anime was so beloved until I started actively looking at the Mal fourms.

And your quite rigth, a few elements like the animation and some of the OST tracks are quite good but the narritive is a disater(and apparently butchers the source) the characters are completely flat, self contradictory and inedneering and the story goes no where.

It's a solid 6/10, maybe a 6.5. It fails o accomplish its mission statement, is a slightly above average production and is overall unremarkable.

I've got no issue with any one who does it enjoy it, nothing wrong with watching a show for some ligth entertainmebt but certainly not an 8 by mals high standards.


Completely agreed. It's slightly above average and I believe it really had great potential to become a next assassination classroom type show if only it had an actual story lmao.
Jun 1, 2021 1:09 PM
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aightbet said:
momentie said:
I never knew this anime was so beloved until I started actively looking at the Mal fourms.

And your quite rigth, a few elements like the animation and some of the OST tracks are quite good but the narritive is a disater(and apparently butchers the source) the characters are completely flat, self contradictory and inedneering and the story goes no where.

It's a solid 6/10, maybe a 6.5. It fails o accomplish its mission statement, is a slightly above average production and is overall unremarkable.

I've got no issue with any one who does it enjoy it, nothing wrong with watching a show for some ligth entertainmebt but certainly not an 8 by mals high standards.


Completely agreed. It's slightly above average and I believe it really had great potential to become a next assassination classroom type show if only it had an actual story lmao.

That's a good comparison, it had an opportunity to be a maybe darker version of AC but ya it ended up squandering it.
Jun 1, 2021 1:29 PM
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This anime is just a promotional adaptation for the Light Novel, it changes lots of things from the source material. That’s why japanese fans did not like it. Either way I still enjoyed the adaptation, probably because I just loved the main character.
Jun 1, 2021 2:26 PM
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Idk either, I rated it 4 cause it was boring...overhyped or something
Jun 1, 2021 2:36 PM
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This series gets the score because it has a massive fanbase.
It might not look like it because it failed as an adaptation. The studio took too many liberties that the author and the fans did not appreciate.
You might see it as “Too high”, but in fact is “Too low”, considering that the LN’s are at the Top 5 scorers in it’s genre and it has 20 volumes so far never decreasing sales.
The anime just worked as a promotional (As always) without the real intention (Hinted due to lack of real commitment) to make something good or even get another season.
If you decide to check the novels you would realize that the story and execution is vastly superior.
Is not the LN’s fault but rather the studio. The score should be higher because the LN deserves it, sadly the series gets a low score (In the bigger perspective) because the adaptation is horrible for what the plot actually offers.
Hence your initial statement is yes and no. Yes, you miss the main point of the story (Because the Anime failed to showed it. No, you are not wrong, the anime side should get a score of 7.1-7.3 maximum)
The LN’s should have a score closer to 9 so you can have an idea of how much of a failed adaptation it is and not because the plot is boring and uninteresting.
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Anime wise you're on point. Since it was only to promote the LN they changed some stuff and executed the anime adaptation badly IMO, in the end I gave it 5.
Jun 1, 2021 2:42 PM
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There's a lot of animes that can be described as the topic but I agree
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Jun 1, 2021 2:44 PM
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no, there are hundreds of way worse anime with higher score than this one.
Jun 1, 2021 6:55 PM
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aightbet said:
I genuinely have 0 clue how this show warrants a rating pretty close to 8 which means a show is pretty damn good for MAL standards to be honest.

Like, this entire show was boycotted in Japan lmao. Everything seems pretty average and despite having 12 episodes it legit feels like the story doesn't progress anywhere? Like, I still am perplexed at what this story was actually building up to in the end. Almost every character has had marginal development at best if any, and MC legit hasn't developed one bit. And the animation has so many inconsistencies it's hard to understand if the animators even paid attention to what they were doing at times.

I understand that people are a sucker of the unemotional character type, like Hachiman. However one thing to note is that despite Hachiman's seemingly unemotional and energy-less aura, he still develops a fair amount in every season of the SNAFU show, whilst keeping his original character trope. With this show though, it's just... average right?

There are a few things that I like such as the art style, the very intriguing school system, the cool island survival aspect as well. However everything else just feels half baked really. With all that being said I just can't see how this show is rated this highly. In my mind it belongs somewhere like 6.5-7.1 area. Personally a 6 to me though.

Do you guys agree with this sentiment? Anyone feel this anime is undeserving for the score it has? Or have I missed something like what the whole point of the show is about or something.
read the light novel of it the LN is leagues above the anime .anime was just created for promoting the LN alot of things were cutted out in the anime from LN cause the LN is even there in top 20 in manga side of Mal and it deserves it so yeah read the LN
Jun 1, 2021 10:09 PM
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Loved the idea of the show. That’s was what got me hooked.
Jun 1, 2021 10:40 PM
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Funny, i was just thinking the same thing yesterday. Good to see im not the only one. A 6 is where it should go
Jun 1, 2021 10:45 PM

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RandomGuyScott said:
This series gets the score because it has a massive fanbase.
It might not look like it because it failed as an adaptation. The studio took too many liberties that the author and the fans did not appreciate.
You might see it as “Too high”, but in fact is “Too low”, considering that the LN’s are at the Top 5 scorers in it’s genre and it has 20 volumes so far never decreasing sales.
The anime just worked as a promotional (As always) without the real intention (Hinted due to lack of real commitment) to make something good or even get another season.
If you decide to check the novels you would realize that the story and execution is vastly superior.
Is not the LN’s fault but rather the studio. The score should be higher because the LN deserves it, sadly the series gets a low score (In the bigger perspective) because the adaptation is horrible for what the plot actually offers.
Hence your initial statement is yes and no. Yes, you miss the main point of the story (Because the Anime failed to showed it. No, you are not wrong, the anime side should get a score of 7.1-7.3 maximum)
The LN’s should have a score closer to 9 so you can have an idea of how much of a failed adaptation it is and not because the plot is boring and uninteresting.


Oh yeah I know about the enormous success the LN has. I am considering reading it some day since as I really did enjoy the initial premise and setting of the show, but that kind of it tbh.

So yeah, I mean I guess it's cause of the fanbase this show's rating is way higher than it should be but still like, if I was a fan of the LN and I watched this show, I don't know tbh personally I might have actually hated it more for what it got wrong from the original source material.
Jun 1, 2021 11:04 PM

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Op I always see you just trashing on bad anime.Why don't you just find some good anime and talk good things about it?It looks like you're looking for attention.
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Anime wise you're on point. Since it was only to promote the LN they changed some stuff and executed the anime adaptation badly IMO, in the end I gave it 5.
GreiLugaj said:
This anime is just a promotional adaptation for the Light Novel, it changes lots of things from the source material. That’s why japanese fans did not like it. Either way I still enjoyed the adaptation, probably because I just loved the main character.

??It doesn't make sense.If the anime was just to promote the LN then why didn't they just stick to the source material?

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Jun 1, 2021 11:08 PM
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Scordolo said:
Op I always see you just trashing on bad anime.Why don't you just find some good anime and talk good things about it?It looks like you're looking for attention.
Hot_Green_Tea said:
Anime wise you're on point. Since it was only to promote the LN they changed some stuff and executed the anime adaptation badly IMO, in the end I gave it 5.
GreiLugaj said:
This anime is just a promotional adaptation for the Light Novel, it changes lots of things from the source material. That’s why japanese fans did not like it. Either way I still enjoyed the adaptation, probably because I just loved the main character.

??It doesn't make sense.If the anime was just to promote the LN then why didn't they just stick to the source material?

Because with the anime being bad, the fans are forced to pick up the Light Novel if they find the premise interesting. It’s a tactic used by many companies in Japan, especially manga companies.
Jun 1, 2021 11:15 PM

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Scordolo said:
Op I always see you just trashing on bad anime.Why don't you just find some good anime and talk good things about it?It looks like you're looking for attention.

??It doesn't make sense.If the anime was just to promote the LN then why didn't they just stick to the source material?

Because with the anime being bad, the fans are forced to pick up the Light Novel if they find the premise interesting. It’s a tactic used by many companies in Japan, especially manga companies.

The companies should really stop doing that.It affects the sales very badly.Many people wouldn't even want to pick up the material if they find the anime genuinely bad.Yes the LN sales are doing great for COTE but if the anime stuck to the original material it probably would've been the highest selling LN in Japan.

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Scordolo said:
GreiLugaj said:

Because with the anime being bad, the fans are forced to pick up the Light Novel if they find the premise interesting. It’s a tactic used by many companies in Japan, especially manga companies.

The companies should really stop doing that.It affects the sales very badly.Many people wouldn't even want to pick up the material if they find the anime genuinely bad.Yes the LN sales are doing great for COTE but if the anime stuck to the original material it probably would've been the highest selling LN in Japan.

That is not so true. These companies have done their research. Most japanese fans always buy the source material of an anime if they like it. The anime of COTE gathered enough attention as it would’ve gotten even if the adaptation was good. Japanese companies mostly only care about sales in Japan, they know how japanese fans think so they use that to make them buy the source material.
Jun 1, 2021 11:52 PM

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Scordolo said:
Op I always see you just trashing on bad anime.Why don't you just find some good anime and talk good things about it?It looks like you're looking for attention.


Not at all, there are many anime I say good things about. If you see the spring anime line-up I'm pretty active on them and have opened discussions praising them as well. To be honest I've only trashed 1 anime in particular which is the Osananajimi one and rightfully so, it's a terrible show. That doesn't mean you can't like it though, if you like a show I respect that.

Even with COTE, I am not actually trashing this show. I've said that the show is slightly above average (so by no means a 'bad' anime) in my eyes but is simply undeserving of such a high rating of near 8 on its overall MAL score. I ain't saying it's a garbage show. With my brief analysis of COTE, I've explained my criticism for it but also let people know what I liked about it. If I was truly trashing COTE I would've just focused on the criticisms right?
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Dude you people are out of your minds if you think this was a bad anime. You have a badass emotionless MC. One of the top best MC you can get. Insanely good art. Not only that the setting is probably one of the best settings I've ever seen. Of course it's not as good as the light novel. But to be honest it was still an extremely entertaining show.

The score is pretty wrong though. It should be around 8.2 ish. If shit like fmab, Gintama, fruits baskets, and fate series get to be immensely over-rated. Then classroom of the elite should at least get the score it deserves. They should really resest fmab though. That's like 8.0 flat score show. Maybe a bit higher.
Jun 2, 2021 3:55 AM
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There's a very clear double standard involving this. Look at Yakusoku no Neverland season 2, it was objectively a very messy and bad adaptation that didn't do the source material justice in the eyes of many, and what did that get it? A pretty bad score, it was at 5.64 last time I checked. However, the Classroom of the Elite anime was boycotted in Japan for a similar reason, it's also a messy adaptation with very little faith to the source material, and yet it has a very high 7 score.

Both have the same problems, but Classroom of the Elite didn't get a bandwagon against it from western fans, so it got away with it among the western fanbase.

I guess this is kind of understandable, given that a lot of western fans often can't access light novels easily as they aren't translated as often as manga, so many didn't know it was different. It's understandable, but still worth pointing out in my opinion.
Jun 2, 2021 4:12 AM
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This is show has one of the best Mc I've ever seen
Jun 2, 2021 4:17 AM
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Despite all of the flaws, the show's quite entertaining. So, a score of 7.84 is fine imo.
Jun 2, 2021 9:20 AM
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Overrated as fuck, boring and hard to watch, overrated what should I say
Jun 2, 2021 10:19 AM
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It released at the perfect time IMO, when I feel like a lot of people in the west and specifically teens got into anime.

They fell in love with characters like your Hachiman's, Oreki's and in turn Ayanokoji since for some odd reason the anime portrayed him like that. A lot of people also haven't read the LN since it's way less common for someone to actually go and try out the LN, unlike a manga.

I was still a fairly new anime fan when I watched this, so I put it high. But after reading the LN not too long ago I can't say I believe that anymore. I believe a lower 7 would be perfect or maybe a high 6?

You often see people saying if the anime were to comeback it should be a reboot instead of a season 2 on stuff like its subreddit.
Jun 2, 2021 10:33 AM

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I mean it had a good plot I just really wished they went into the MC's backstory because it seemed interesting.
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There's a very clear double standard involving this. Look at Yakusoku no Neverland season 2, it was objectively a very messy and bad adaptation that didn't do the source material justice in the eyes of many, and what did that get it? A pretty bad score, it was at 5.64 last time I checked. However, the Classroom of the Elite anime was boycotted in Japan for a similar reason, it's also a messy adaptation with very little faith to the source material, and yet it has a very high 7 score.

Both have the same problems, but Classroom of the Elite didn't get a bandwagon against it from western fans, so it got away with it among the western fanbase.

I guess this is kind of understandable, given that a lot of western fans often can't access light novels easily as they aren't translated as often as manga, so many didn't know it was different. It's understandable, but still worth pointing out in my opinion.


To your last point, yes, it's quite unfortunate that, most of the LN titles are unaccessible to non-japanese fans, even if they want to. And sometimes, some may not like LNs as they are only textual with very rare time illustration
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Yeah that's the problem with the anime adaptation. It changed quite a few things and not in a good way. Another problem with the anime is that the material they adapted was only the set up. They should have made the anime a 2 cour if they actually wanted people to read the LN's. The anime staff were hoping that the "badass secret Light Yagami type MC," the ecchi fanservice was enough to hook peope in to read the LN's when that's not even the reason its so loved.

Its the different dynamics in each class, seeing the different strengths of each character and how they're relevant to succeeding each challenge. Seeing how characters develop and show depth is a major part to the success of the source material. Ofc Ayanokoji being an OP badass is a major reason, but that alone would get boring.
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Yeah that's the problem with the anime adaptation. It changed quite a few things and not in a good way. Another problem with the anime is that the material they adapted was only the set up. They should have made the anime a 2 cour if they actually wanted people to read the LN's. The anime staff were hoping that the "badass secret Light Yagami type MC," the ecchi fanservice was enough to hook peope in to read the LN's when that's not even the reason its so loved.

Its the different dynamics in each class, seeing the different strengths of each character and how they're relevant to succeeding each challenge. Seeing how characters develop and show depth is a major part to the success of the source material. Ofc Ayanokoji being an OP badass is a major reason, but that alone would get boring.


Yeah, I believe the point made about Ayanokoji being a badass, overall dark/unemotional character makes the premise of the show very interesting and also alluring. As you said though, if there is no development, which there wasn't in the anime, it gets boring which was what I felt when watching the anime.

I'm sure I will read the light novel some time eventually. Have heard tremendous things about it.
Jun 5, 2021 7:45 AM

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I don't really know about the Ln coz I haven't read it, but I totally agree on the anime. The anime was a shitshow. The first 4 episodes were ok while the rest of the show was boring af. Just to create a good moment in the final episode, they made the entire Island Arc so boring. By the last episode, I had already lost all interest in the show. The edgelord MC is one of the shittiest I have ever seen coz he is shown doing absolutely nothing until the last episode. And then suddenly in the last moment they try to change his character. You could think that the upcoming season would be good but you will never know. Don't know why it's rated so high.....
Jun 5, 2021 7:47 AM

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Lmao and do you guys remember that blonde dude? Wtf was he even there for? I remember that he did absolutely nothing other than running around here and there.
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Lmao and do you guys remember that blonde dude? Wtf was he even there for? I remember that he did absolutely nothing other than running around here and there.


lmao I had to go to the wiki to figure out who you were talking about. Bruh true, he legitimately served no purpose.

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