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May 24, 2021 1:58 PM
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do you still like the series or not? season 4 was really well written and its amazing especially in the second half, but after the ending, it does feel bad. second half of season 4 is probably going to be my favourite attack on titan anime release but because of the ending i dont really know. i dont really know how to feel about it. it is so well written with eren and his half brother monkey, that part was fantastic, i just dont know how to feel about it since the second half of s4 is the one with best written stuff and worst (the ending). i hope anime is not the same.

when attack on titan ended i actually liked it and wanted to move on, many people too liked it and many hated it. but then they added the new chapters, now everyone hates it.

attack on titan new chapters are about everything being normal, and then moving to 2020 corona and north korean air force dropping those bombs. after that a kid goes the the place where eren was burried, but that doesnt make sense since nothing will happen because when u die ur body is basically only bones so nothing will really happen.

i am not sure if i should remove attack on titan from my favourites or keep it. i really dont know. i want to give it 3/10 but at the same time i want to keep it at 10/10.

i dont know and i want to ask for opinions if i should stay on being a fan or not.
its so bad i have never read anything bad in my entire life but damn season 4 is so good at the same time.
May 24, 2021 2:05 PM
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was a 10/10 for me before, didn't expect the ending to be perfect but didn't expect it to be this retconned and just unenjoyable either.

eren was removed from my faves as well was the manga.
for a lot of stories with bad endings i did reduced my vote with 1 or 2 points but this ending I absolutely hated everything about it and ruined the whole story for me. I have no desire to reread or rewatch the series no longer again after they lead up to... well this. So yeah the journey was great, but was extreamly ruined in the span of few chapters soooo by the end I rated it 3/10.

for me this says a lot if an ending is so bad that it makes you not pick up the story ever again.
i'm gonna give an example for another ending i hated and that was tokyo ghoul: re, even though i do think it could be wrapped up better, it did not ruin the whole story or kaneki's character so one day i might want to revisit it again.

May 24, 2021 2:07 PM
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Griff-ith said:
was a 10/10 for me before, didn't expect the ending to be perfect but didn't expect it to be this retconned and just unenjoyable either.

eren was removed from my faves as well was the manga.
for a lot of stories with bad endings i did reduced my vote with 1 or 2 points but this ending I absolutely hated everything about it and ruined the whole story for me. I have no desire to reread or rewatch the series no longer again after they lead up to... well this. So yeah the journey was great, but was extreamly ruined in the span of few chapters soooo by the end I rated it 3/10.
the anime is still not ruined and i dont think they will ruin the anime. the manga is kinda ruined, i might remove manga from favourites but anime will probably stay if they dont animate virus 139
May 24, 2021 2:09 PM
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the anime is still good yes and it's fine to keep it in faves, every season stands up to itself it can be view as if this was your fave arc even. we shall see if the last season is going to have an anime original ending but i highly doubt so.

i do see a lot of emtards praising still the ending because uwwu eren simps for mikasa awww cute soooo idk

May 24, 2021 2:14 PM
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Griff-ith said:
the anime is still good yes and it's fine to keep it in faves, every season stands up to itself it can be view as if this was your fave arc even. we shall see if the last season is going to have an anime original ending but i highly doubt so.

i do see a lot of emtards praising still the ending because uwwu eren simps for mikasa awww cute soooo idk
s4 part 2 will be the best if they dont put the ending, actually, i dont even think its possible to animate those extra pages, it litteraly goes from normal world to 2020 world and then to bombs and a damn tree. i dont think its possible to animate something like that because it was just skipping panels randomly. it will 100% be a different ending.
May 24, 2021 2:15 PM
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well for me chapters since 137 were horrible too not only the 8 extra ones

May 24, 2021 2:21 PM
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Griff-ith said:
well for me chapters since 137 were horrible too not only the 8 extra ones
for me everything was good and those extra pages are the only thing that made me cringe so much, i was laughing reading them.
May 24, 2021 2:30 PM
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Seigjo said:
About a 9/10 for me, I have my grips with the final few chapters but nothing that really ruined the rest of the series like they did for other people. Hell, the 8-extra pages made the final chapter better for me, seeing that Paradis (in the future) was eventually destroyed by some kind of war helped change the unrealistic and optimistic conclusion the original chapter was going for into a bittersweet and thematically-consistent conclusion.

I am not saying you guys need to like it, hate it all you want. I just personally liked some of the themes Isayama was elaborating on with the ending and felt it was consistent with the rest of the series, even though the ending was a bit rushed and anti-climactic.

Let's hope that the anime can fix some of the pacing issues, mistranslations and elaborate further on Eren's absolute BS omnipotent and time-transcending god powers.
the extra pages felt too fast, as i said, it went from normal town, to future, to planes dropping bombs, and then a kid going to a tree without us knowing how he even survived and why he is going there
May 24, 2021 2:52 PM
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Seigjo said:
NormalExploiter said:
the extra pages felt too fast, as i said, it went from normal town, to future, to planes dropping bombs, and then a kid going to a tree without us knowing how he even survived and why he is going there


The fact that the panels were done practically back-to-back is probably what makes it better (for me personally), there is literally no context to them so we can spend hours and hours theorizing as to the context behind them. For instance, was Paradis wiped out in retaliation to Eren's genocide? Did Mikasa marry Jean? How far into the future does this boy live in? what kind of power lies in the tree anyway?

I don't particularly need answers for everything when a series ends, for me its probably better when an ending raises a few new questions since it stays relevant in my mind for a long time. e.g. Monster and Oyasumi Punpun.

Also, to what you said about the extra pages being unadaptable, I think that is untrue.
These pages could be easily done as the credit role after Mikasa talks to Birb Eren, as the credits roll (and some new Sawano song plays in the background) we see the tree growing incrementally in the centre of the screen with society changing in the background. Eventually the focus will be placed on the boy and his dog at the end of the credits. They find the tree and move towards its entrance, the show then fades to black.
thats the bad thing, it is rushed. it doesnt feel like a story but rather it feels like a story plan before a story is even out.
May 24, 2021 3:12 PM

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Seigjo said:
NormalExploiter said:
thats the bad thing, it is rushed. it doesnt feel like a story but rather it feels like a story plan before a story is even out.


I can't really argue with you there, since I can't really see the problem with it. It didn't need a story since the story of our protagonists and the plot had already ended. These panels exists as a small epilogue with a single purpose, to show the growth of the Eren tree while the rest of history played out in the background.
its nice if you like it, at least it didnt ruin the story for you. to me, attack on titan manga now went on a lower place as one of my favourite mangas.
May 24, 2021 3:20 PM
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the ending retconned the entire storyline throwing the last 50 chapters in the trash, previous great scenes are now meaningless knowing that Eren was lying this entire time, you can't even enjoy them anymore dropping the series rating for me effectively to 0/10 I'm waiting for AOTNoRequim.
May 24, 2021 3:32 PM
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the ending retconned the entire storyline throwing the last 50 chapters in the trash, previous great scenes are now meaningless knowing that Eren was lying this entire time, you can't even enjoy them anymore dropping the series rating for me effectively to 0/10 I'm waiting for AOTNoRequim.


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May 24, 2021 4:28 PM

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After decade long run of a series I say it’s ok.

S3 part 2 peaked too high for me to call AoT a shitshow as a whole but the ending is a complete mess. Solid 7 right next to GoT
May 24, 2021 6:04 PM

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Well I mean it's gotta end somehow right :v? I really respect Isayama's ending but I hope maybe they can re-evaluate a bit on the ending while producing the anime that is soon to come.
May 24, 2021 7:44 PM

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Great show if you ignore the ending somehow
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May 24, 2021 8:06 PM
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I still have respect for the entire story which is why my rating is still at a 9 for now. The peaks that the story offers are still super high for me




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May 24, 2021 8:35 PM
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AoT is one of my favorite series, I think the ending was good, I would have liked the extra pages to be used for Armin and Eren's conversation to better explain some things but it didn't ruin my experience with the ending either.

I'm glad it ended like this, I really thought for a moment that Eren would end up killing everyone in the alliance, which would have been out of place after all the times he emphasized wanting to save them.

I would have preferred that the ending be EreHisu and that the whole topic of Ymir loving the king be removed, but other than that I have no complaints.

As I said in other threads, I really do not consider that the entire series has been ruined by the final chapter. Maybe it's because I always had the feeling from the beginning that Eren was hiding other intentions (at least since he talked to Mikasa and Armin at the restaurant).

Of course I will enjoy the series when it comes out and much more now that I know how the thoughts of each character are.
May 24, 2021 8:50 PM

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If MAPPA gives us an anime original ending, they can go from zero to hero. However, that seems to be extremely unlikely.
May 24, 2021 9:38 PM

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I lost all respect for history, I can no longer take it seriously and all the compliments I gave it, they are gone.
I mean, mostly I don't care so much about an ending as long as I enjoyed the story, but AOT was overly dependent on the ending and deserved to end as a great and amazing story, but I guess it didn't lol.
Unlike many people, AOT was not a "journey" for me, because I have seen it like any other anime and I did not get the affection, so I can better notice the errors.

overall: 3/10, amazing story, the best narrative structure I have ever seen (the best of the series) and some good characters, but with a waste of potential in dealing with sensitive subjects that could turn it into something else, it has some of the worst characters I have seen, horrible final arc, unnecessary elements in the last part (time travel, ymir, the worm, etc) and has the worst endings I have seen (and maybe the worst) staining the legacy of a great manga.
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May 24, 2021 9:53 PM

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I can't forgive the Rumbling arc and the horrendous ending but I still like Return to Shiganshina arc and basically everything before it.

With the extra pages, I'm starting to lose all my respect for it because of more retcons and character assassinations which makes me losing my interest to watch S4 Pt2. Hell I might as well just drop this series completely.
May 24, 2021 11:26 PM
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It's a 8/10 for me.

If he was going to give a ending where nothing change then why make us spend 11 years in process. It could have been said and done in 100 chapter instead of 140.

Plus, the original Mist ending sound better and more tragically satisfying.
May 24, 2021 11:43 PM

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It is garbage at this point for me and I already moved on from it. Still gave it 4/10, just because pre-timeskip stuff is really great and something that I really appreciate.
May 25, 2021 1:29 AM
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in my opinion the best thing about the ending is that people always use words like "retcons" and "character assassinations" to criticize it. which basically just shows how they're unable to accept that this is Isayama's ending and the blame is just shifted over to pressure from the fans or the editor/publisher. and then they pretend how it's not canon and that the canon ending is going to be written by some fans on twitter or reddit lmfao.

May 25, 2021 5:25 AM
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10/10. Eren is to good to hate. Episode 2(when he says he is gonna wipe them all out), episode 5 (when he saves armin), episode 13 ( i was born into this world), Avenging levi squad, vs Reiner, Season 3 part 2 we are all free, beach episode, handshake, chapter 121, wtc etc, he is just best most complex MC in manga and one of the most complex characters in fiction. Similarity with Guts is that they are, regardless of the conditions inwhich they live, they both are natalists. Story is insane. Chapter 137 has probably what I'd call the best dialog. Watching that loser Zeke have his whole anti natalist ideology crumbled by a baseball it's one of the best and funniest shit ever. Chapter 139 with extra pages was 8/10. I didn't like Annie surviving. And I still am not sure whether all the titan powers/curse resided inside eren's head, and if yes, how? 10/10
May 25, 2021 8:00 AM

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I still see S1-S3 as untarnished and S3P2 remains the best of AoT. It feels like a proper farewell to the series and no horrible endings will take away what it did for me when I first experienced it. I did have to lower my score for Final Season P1 because it's a buildup that is directly tied to the results of what comes next.

Overall, the humans vs titans side of things is still phenomenal, it's just disappointing to think that all of that masterclass worldbuilding & mystery didn't go where it needed to.

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