This had potential, sad to see what it's become

PlayMaker22 said:
I just can't understand how people say that D. Gray-Man has dropped in story's quality. Heck, the whole first part is an absurd mediocrity, taking advantage of the typical battle tropes without trying to give a minimum of personality. The fights were the biggest problem, almost all based on the same gimmicks. Fight ---> character in difficulty ------> Innocence stronger ---> Victory (look at all the battles of Lenalee or Allen vs Tiky). And the bad thing is that everyone in these fights Hoshino always found narrative expedients to stretch them beyond belief. Instead, since the manga has focused more on the story, everything has become more interesting. She manages to better manage the characters by intertwining their backgrounds, a decrease in fights that have never been Hoshino's forte, many plot points that seemed negligible have been resumed and evolved. It still has problems (I didn't like the whole handling of that living Johnny plot device instead of focusing on the real main characters) but I have no idea how it can be worse than the first part and if the only argument is the cadence of the chapters then make yourself a reason

Raamzeyy said:
Yeaa i know right it just so sad the author really struggling and comes with a lot of hiatus , theres a news that the d gray man is close to the main point? idk what that means but anyway i will support and love this manga. its one of the shonen that i really devoted in to.

coolxal said:


No, author said it's only 1/3 of the way through.

At the rate this is going, it's unlikely to get finished. The author is more likely to retire due to her health issues as she ages.

coolxal said:


It is what it is. It was a battle shounen with exorcists fighting against demons that plagued humanity. This type of story isn't anything special but it was a good one with good characters.

But ever since the hiatus / plagiarism stuff started, the story has certainly gotten more complicated. You can call it deep and complex if you want. But lots of these new plot points either seem like ass pulls or retcons (especially with all this bullshit about Mana / Earl, retcons and stuff that came out of nowhere). The 14th stuff, Aprocryphos (where the fuck was this guy the whole time the organization was fighting life or death).

coolxal said:


It is what it is. It was a battle shounen with exorcists fighting against demons that plagued humanity. This type of story isn't anything special but it was a good one with good characters.

But ever since the hiatus / plagiarism stuff started, the story has certainly gotten more complicated. You can call it deep and complex if you want. But lots of these new plot points either seem like ass pulls or retcons (especially with all this bullshit about Mana / Earl, retcons and stuff that came out of nowhere). The 14th stuff, Aprocryphos (where the fuck was this guy the whole time the organization was fighting life or death).

Jack_Shadows said:

It wasn't just another battle shonen to begin with. It is simmilar to Pandora Hearts where true story only begins at half of chapters. But unlike Pandora it has story bulding and plot that is more likeble at the very begining. Untill Noah'a arc we only heard about World End, about exorcist and akuma. But there was always some hidden part, but unlike in Pandora Hearts reader here didn't feel dumb. So big revelation that planned from begining is happening right now. And yes, it's hard when chapter release only 4 times in year, but the reason for that is Hoshino health. I'm sure there planned much more fights between last 30 chapters, but she rashed this to show us the most important revelation. We received the Lore, Lore that is important to continue into final phase of series. Also this is simmilar to Berserk where solid fights happened 100+ chapters ago. And Miura is dead now, so why we should complaine about Hoshino, who still gives ys 4 chapters in year?!
Now what prove we have that Hoshino planned eveeything?
1. History about World End that happened 7000 ago;
2. We saw Nea first time in Allen dream after he lose his hand;
3. Road Kamelot really strange behaviour;
4. Skin Borick wrath...his feeling against Innocence, and ofc first chapters Allen attack: GraveCross is similar to pillar on Noah's family head was just saying;
5. From novell we could find out that Mana was Nea's brother at the very begining;

So for me D.Gray Man have everything to became masterpiece, and it still could happen. Yes it will took longer but I've got feeling that in the end D.Gray Man will easily beat any shonen or even shoinen.