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He controlled it from the future, his future self was the one who did it using the founder's power under Ymir's orders to keep Bert alive so that Armin eats him later and gets the colossal to ultimately nuke the founder and give Mikasa a chance to kill Eren and end the curse.

Of course, if you look deeply into the time travel loop it won't make sense but whatever.

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plot holes like lot of thing in the last couples of chapter lmao you can always imagine that's a "shut up it's magic" kind of thing ....... yeah the ending was trash + rushed so isayama can go open his trash spa ........

They 100 percent explained this its just people like u are so ignorant to read with understanding than just look at words on a paper. Its not Isseyama's fault that you lack basic reading capabilities taught to you in kindergarten.

Please explain to me what he meant it wasn't Bert's time to die. And what was the point of the second half of chapter 130 if eren actually let his mom die.

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because P A T H S, that's how he did it.

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Coordinate (explained in ch50, allows to control pure titans like Dina) + Power of Attack Titan (explained in ch 121, allows to influence both the past and the future) = control of Dina.

Eren didn't have the titan at the time, but when Grisha killed the royal family he didn't have it either.

If you still see it illogical, the founding titan can control the Eldians' mind however he wants, then if he only had the attack titan he could only control Grisha and his other ancestors, but having the founding titan he can control anyone Eldiano, in the past and in the future. Except Ackermans.

He did it to save Bertholdt who in the future would save Armin, who would be the "hero of humanity". He let his mother die because although it could save her that would imply that many future events are not fulfilled and that Paradis is inevitably invaded by future nations, condemning the lives of Eren's friends and possibly the life of his mother if he were still alive..

Sorry for my english

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The problem is the explanation really, the problem is that this twist comes up with all the time travel confusion these things always have, like how his future self reached this state if in the future if the original timeline didn't have the titan eating his mother, but it was his future self who kick started this timeline ? Are we talking about alternative timelines here ?

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''this...only ymir will know''-hacksayama

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because P A T H S, that's how he did it.

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LMAO that's exactly that's a " shut up it's all thanks to the path " bullshit time travel + in juste one page we learn that in fact he was the one to let his mother die ...... it's not like his mother death was pretty much what have motivated him during the most important/long part of his life but in just one case it's " OH yeah BTW eren was the one to kill his mom for no fucking reaseon" just like why he decided to kill pretty much the all word ........

Apr 8, 2021 12:44 PM

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el3mel said:
The problem is the explanation really, the problem is that this twist comes up with all the time travel confusion these things always have, like how his future self reached this state if in the future if the original timeline didn't have the titan eating his mother, but it was his future self who kick started this timeline ? Are we talking about alternative timelines here ?

You mean Causal loop?
Well, let's not talking about time paradox. I just want to know how Eren able to control Dina in the past, and I already have the answer. I don't want to get deep into time travel/time jump shit.

Apr 8, 2021 12:44 PM

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quanbe said:
plot holes like lot of thing in the last couples of chapter lmao you can always imagine that's a "shut up it's magic" kind of thing ....... yeah the ending was trash + rushed so isayama can go open his trash spa ........

They 100 percent explained this its just people like u are so ignorant to read with understanding than just look at words on a paper. Its not Isseyama's fault that you lack basic reading capabilities taught to you in kindergarten.

exactly man. Some people just read everything at face value and then complain that they don't understand things its ridiculous

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ezz365 said:
Coordinate (explained in ch50, allows to control pure titans like Dina) + Power of Attack Titan (explained in ch 121, allows to influence both the past and the future) = control of Dina.

Eren didn't have the titan at the time, but when Grisha killed the royal family he didn't have it either.

If you still see it illogical, the founding titan can control the Eldians' mind however he wants, then if he only had the attack titan he could only control Grisha and his other ancestors, but having the founding titan he can control anyone Eldiano, in the past and in the future. Except Ackermans.

He did it to save Bertholdt who in the future would save Armin, who would be the "hero of humanity". He let his mother die because although it could save her that would imply that many future events are not fulfilled and that Paradis is inevitably invaded by future nations, condemning the lives of Eren's friends and possibly the life of his mother if he were still alive..

Sorry for my english

or if the story was better writed don't make him do this because in realitty from pretty much all the chapter since the begenning his mother death was the most powerful impact of his life and he would have wished to save her and even if armin was dead since at the end he is still pretty much uselss ( the rest of the world still want to exterminate all eldians) eren could still have use the GT to kill most of the humanity to protect all his other friends it's just an bad esay way to tell the thing isayam doesn't needded to make eren become so detestable by making him kill his own mother to save his friend for no fucking reason because at the end he is not " the hero of humanity" for the rest of the world armin is just a demon from eldian who need to be exterminated even historia said that at the end only eldia or the rest of the world could survive ........

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el3mel said:
The problem is the explanation really, the problem is that this twist comes up with all the time travel confusion these things always have, like how his future self reached this state if in the future if the original timeline didn't have the titan eating his mother, but it was his future self who kick started this timeline ? Are we talking about alternative timelines here ?

It is a single timeline, created based on the decisions Eren made throughout his life. There is no other timeline, or we never saw it throughout history. Everything that happens in the manga is because Eren wanted it that way.

The closest thing to an alternate timeline is Eren's farewell to Mikasa at ch 138, but that's a "what would have happened" that Eren wanted to show her.

Sorry for my english

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quanbe said:

ezz365 said:
Coordinate (explained in ch50, allows to control pure titans like Dina) + Power of Attack Titan (explained in ch 121, allows to influence both the past and the future) = control of Dina.

Eren didn't have the titan at the time, but when Grisha killed the royal family he didn't have it either.

If you still see it illogical, the founding titan can control the Eldians' mind however he wants, then if he only had the attack titan he could only control Grisha and his other ancestors, but having the founding titan he can control anyone Eldiano, in the past and in the future. Except Ackermans.

He did it to save Bertholdt who in the future would save Armin, who would be the "hero of humanity". He let his mother die because although it could save her that would imply that many future events are not fulfilled and that Paradis is inevitably invaded by future nations, condemning the lives of Eren's friends and possibly the life of his mother if he were still alive..

Sorry for my english

or of the story was better writed don't make him do this because in realitty from pretty much all the chapter since the begenning his mother death was the most powerful impact of his life and he would have wished to save her and even if armin was dead since at the end he is still pretty much uselss ( the rest of the world still want to exterminate all eldians) eren could still have use the GT to kill most of the humanity to protect all his other friends it's just an bad esay way to tell the thing isayam doesn't needded to make eren become so detestable by making him kill his own mother to save his friend for no fucking reason because at the end he is not " the hero of humanity" for the rest of the world armin is just a demon from eldian who need to be exterminated even historia said that at the end only eldia or the rest of the world could survive ........

how were you expecting Eren to save his mother who had her legs crushed and was stuck under debris whilst a bunch of mindless titans were coming streaming in through the hole, with the only protection being the fucking useless military police. How was he supposed to save his mum? Did you want him to catch the rock that destroyed his home? Was he supposed to command titans to pick her up and carry her to safety?

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ezz365 said:

el3mel said:
The problem is the explanation really, the problem is that this twist comes up with all the time travel confusion these things always have, like how his future self reached this state if in the future if the original timeline didn't have the titan eating his mother, but it was his future self who kick started this timeline ? Are we talking about alternative timelines here ?

It is a single timeline, created based on the decisions Eren made throughout his life. There is no other timeline, or we never saw it throughout history. Everything that happens in the manga is because Eren wanted it that way.

The closest thing to an alternate timeline is Eren's farewell to Mikasa at ch 138, but that's a "what would have happened" that Eren wanted to show her.

Sorry for my english

don't apologize for your English bro, its pretty good 👌

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ezz365 said:

el3mel said:
The problem is the explanation really, the problem is that this twist comes up with all the time travel confusion these things always have, like how his future self reached this state if in the future if the original timeline didn't have the titan eating his mother, but it was his future self who kick started this timeline ? Are we talking about alternative timelines here ?

It is a single timeline, created based on the decisions Eren made throughout his life. There is no other timeline, or we never saw it throughout history. Everything that happens in the manga is because Eren wanted it that way.

The closest thing to an alternate timeline is Eren's farewell to Mikasa at ch 138, but that's a "what would have happened" that Eren wanted to show her.

Sorry for my english

Then how did his future self reached this state, if Dina wasn't supposed to kill his mother, it was his future self who directed it from the future to start the events that already started ? Whelp, this looks even confusing as I'm writing. That's why I hate the time travel loop shit.

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How are people just ignoring the fact that war was declared on paradis. The whole world vs one island. Part of the rumbling plan was that it was retaliation against the declaration of war. Saying it was pointless is ridiculous because if he didn't do it surely the united armies would have overpowered Paradis

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quanbe said:
plot holes like lot of thing in the last couples of chapter lmao you can always imagine that's a "shut up it's magic" kind of thing ....... yeah the ending was trash + rushed so isayama can go open his trash spa ........

They 100 percent explained this its just people like u are so ignorant to read with understanding than just look at words on a paper. Its not Isseyama's fault that you lack basic reading capabilities taught to you in kindergarten.

True hahahaha
If you check out the exact panel before Eren says the Dina thing, he explains the time thing.

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el3mel said:

ezz365 said:

It is a single timeline, created based on the decisions Eren made throughout his life. There is no other timeline, or we never saw it throughout history. Everything that happens in the manga is because Eren wanted it that way.

The closest thing to an alternate timeline is Eren's farewell to Mikasa at ch 138, but that's a "what would have happened" that Eren wanted to show her.

Sorry for my english

Then how did his future self reached this state, if Dina wasn't supposed to kill his mother, it was his future self who directed it from the future to start the events that already started ? Whelp, this looks even confusing as I'm writing. That's why I hate the time travel loop shit.

thats where the whole Attack titan sees the future hosts memories come into play, it assumes that the attack titan path is fixed, no matter what or those memories wouldn't exist, so Eren would always become the attack titan, he would always exist, kind of like a slave to his own destiny (ironically tragic), and because he exists (because i was born into this world) and was able to use the founding power, he was able to alter events

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el3mel said:

Then how did his future self reached this state, if Dina wasn't supposed to kill his mother, it was his future self who directed it from the future to start the events that already started ? Whelp, this looks even confusing as I'm writing. That's why I hate the time travel loop shit.

thats where the whole Attack titan sees the future hosts memories come into play, it assumes that the attack titan path is fixed, no matter what or those memories wouldn't exist, so Eren would always become the attack titan, he would always exist, kind of like a slave to his own destiny (ironically tragic), and because he exists (because i was born into this world) and was able to use the founding power, he was able to alter events

But shouldn't the events have started out differently, then his future self uses the power to alternate the past or something ? What happens kinda give me the sensation as if a higher up power is the one who is moving the pieces as he please, like as if Eren is someone who's viewing his life line in front of him and chopping and changing it to fit into a certain time line.

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ezz365 said:
Coordinate (explained in ch50, allows to control pure titans like Dina) + Power of Attack Titan (explained in ch 121, allows to influence both the past and the future) = control of Dina.

Eren didn't have the titan at the time, but when Grisha killed the royal family he didn't have it either.

If you still see it illogical, the founding titan can control the Eldians' mind however he wants, then if he only had the attack titan he could only control Grisha and his other ancestors, but having the founding titan he can control anyone Eldiano, in the past and in the future. Except Ackermans.

He did it to save Bertholdt who in the future would save Armin, who would be the "hero of humanity". He let his mother die because although it could save her that would imply that many future events are not fulfilled and that Paradis is inevitably invaded by future nations, condemning the lives of Eren's friends and possibly the life of his mother if he were still alive..

Sorry for my english

or of the story was better writed don't make him do this because in realitty from pretty much all the chapter since the begenning his mother death was the most powerful impact of his life and he would have wished to save her and even if armin was dead since at the end he is still pretty much uselss ( the rest of the world still want to exterminate all eldians) eren could still have use the GT to kill most of the humanity to protect all his other friends it's just an bad esay way to tell the thing isayam doesn't needded to make eren become so detestable by making him kill his own mother to save his friend for no fucking reason because at the end he is not " the hero of humanity" for the rest of the world armin is just a demon from eldian who need to be exterminated even historia said that at the end only eldia or the rest of the world could survive ........

Exactly, the death of his mother was a turning point in Eren's personality, a before and after. If his death had not occurred the most logical thing is that he would not have become a genocide in the future and if he had not done it everyone on the island would be dead, including his mother, who would die anyway. Or maybe she would not have died at that time, but would have been sent to retrieve Shiganshina like Armin's grandfather did.
Her death was surely inevitable and Eren surely knew it.

Anyway, it is fiction, and like all other fictions it is obvious that they leave things to the imagination, what I say is a relatively coherent way of seeing things, otherwise we would know until Eren used shampoo.

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el3mel said:

Then how did his future self reached this state, if Dina wasn't supposed to kill his mother, it was his future self who directed it from the future to start the events that already started ? Whelp, this looks even confusing as I'm writing. That's why I hate the time travel loop shit.

thats where the whole Attack titan sees the future hosts memories come into play, it assumes that the attack titan path is fixed, no matter what or those memories wouldn't exist, so Eren would always become the attack titan, he would always exist, kind of like a slave to his own destiny (ironically tragic), and because he exists (because i was born into this world) and was able to use the founding power, he was able to alter events

If I were Eren, I would say "fuck destiny", command Dina to eat Bertholt, and see how it goes.

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el3mel said:

Bigballzman said:

thats where the whole Attack titan sees the future hosts memories come into play, it assumes that the attack titan path is fixed, no matter what or those memories wouldn't exist, so Eren would always become the attack titan, he would always exist, kind of like a slave to his own destiny (ironically tragic), and because he exists (because i was born into this world) and was able to use the founding power, he was able to alter events

But shouldn't the events have started out differently, then his future self uses the power to alternate the past or something ? What happens kinda give me the sensation as if a higher up power is the one who is moving the pieces as he please, like as if Eren is someone who's viewing his life line in front of him and chopping and changing it to fit into a certain time line.

I don't think so because presumably Eren is the first attack titan who obtained the ability to actually use the founding power (with contact) and he is the Final attack titan, meaning there were no future hosts memories to see. So in a sense he himself is the final piece who controls himself. What I'm trying to say is that his life "starts" out in the way that it is already altered, because the attack titan line is fixed. Its like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I can't explain it well but I know what I mean

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el3mel said:

But shouldn't the events have started out differently, then his future self uses the power to alternate the past or something ? What happens kinda give me the sensation as if a higher up power is the one who is moving the pieces as he please, like as if Eren is someone who's viewing his life line in front of him and chopping and changing it to fit into a certain time line.

I don't think so because presumably Eren is the first attack titan who obtained the ability to actually use the founding power (with contact) and he is the Final attack titan, meaning there were no future hosts memories to see. So in a sense he himself is the final piece who controls himself. What I'm trying to say is that his life "starts" out in the way that it is already altered, because the attack titan line is fixed. Its like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I can't explain it well but I know what I mean

It's confusing but I can see your point, yeah.

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el3mel said:

Bigballzman said:

I don't think so because presumably Eren is the first attack titan who obtained the ability to actually use the founding power (with contact) and he is the Final attack titan, meaning there were no future hosts memories to see. So in a sense he himself is the final piece who controls himself. What I'm trying to say is that his life "starts" out in the way that it is already altered, because the attack titan line is fixed. Its like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I can't explain it well but I know what I mean

It's confusing but I can see your point, yeah.

yeah I actually like it when stuff involving time doesn't create multiple timelines, because it means the characters face the consequences of their actions with messing with time. Better to have one fixed timeline than having alternate timelines I think

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el3mel said:

But shouldn't the events have started out differently, then his future self uses the power to alternate the past or something ? What happens kinda give me the sensation as if a higher up power is the one who is moving the pieces as he please, like as if Eren is someone who's viewing his life line in front of him and chopping and changing it to fit into a certain time line.

I don't think so because presumably Eren is the first attack titan who obtained the ability to actually use the founding power (with contact) and he is the Final attack titan, meaning there were no future hosts memories to see. So in a sense he himself is the final piece who controls himself. What I'm trying to say is that his life "starts" out in the way that it is already altered, because the attack titan line is fixed. Its like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I can't explain it well but I know what I mean

Exactly, the timeline has no beginning or end, the only thing that has a beginning and an end is Eren's life itself.

Eren himself says it in a chapter: it is already engraved in stone.

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In chapter 139, Eren controlled Dina's titan to ignore Bertholt and kill his mom. How did he do it?
Eren can manipulate his dad, because Grisha is Attack Titan. But Dina is not a Titan shifter, and by the time Dina killed Carla, Eren still hasn't received the Founding Titan power.
So, how can Eren control Dina's titan in 845?

dude future eren manipulated dina to kill his mom because he knew he wouldn't even have become a soldier if his mom hadn't died. Tho eren doing the rumbling still is 60% pointless for me but for him to do it he has to has his mom killed. Go watch or read aot again and you'll understand what you're missjng

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its been revealed Eren is a puppet or slave by Ymir (the Founder) so she is the mastermind all along and she did use the PATHS to control Dina

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You have to be intellectually superior in order to understand that. This just shows how great writer Yams is. He is truly genius.

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ReRakCakMag said:
In chapter 139, Eren controlled Dina's titan to ignore Bertholt and kill his mom. How did he do it?
Eren can manipulate his dad, because Grisha is Attack Titan. But Dina is not a Titan shifter, and by the time Dina killed Carla, Eren still hasn't received the Founding Titan power.
So, how can Eren control Dina's titan in 845?

dude future eren manipulated dina to kill his mom because he knew he wouldn't even have become a soldier if his mom hadn't died. Tho eren doing the rumbling still is 60% pointless for me but for him to do it he has to has his mom killed. Go watch or read aot again and you'll understand what you're missjng

I know WHY he killed his mom, I just don't get HOW he did it.
Anyway, got the answer.

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its been revealed Eren is a puppet or slave by Ymir (the Founder) so she is the mastermind all along and she did use the PATHS to control Dina

remember past, present and future are one in PATHS

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isn't why dina ignores berthold because she is an abnormal titan? and because of her promise to Grisha that she will always chases Grisha and for some reason chases Eren as well and kills hannes and eren's mother in the process?

Correct me if i am wrong

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Only Ymir will ever know.

That reminds me of quote from Rise of Skywalker

sOmehOW palPAtinE cAme baCk........

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Pecado_Carnal said:
Only Ymir will ever know.

That reminds me of quote from Rise of Skywalker

sOmehOW palPAtinE cAme baCk........

Both quotes are on the similar level of poorly written explanation of something big happening in their franchises, lol.

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isn't why dina ignores berthold because she is an abnormal titan? and because of her promise to Grisha that she will always chases Grisha and for some reason chases Eren as well and kills hannes and eren's mother in the process?

Correct me if i am wrong

She's not abnormal. She's just a mindless pure titan who happens to have royal blood that's all. The smile is because she was smiling at Grisha while she was transforming so her face got stuck like this as a titan. Her being there during the attack was just pure coincidence.

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I honestly don't know if he was referring to himself or to Ymir when saying that. Idk how he could choose to do that, but if he, under the influence of Ymir, were to do that, it'd make sense. Or simply, if Ymir was the one that made it happen and Eren blames himself, idk.

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deninanut said:
isn't why dina ignores berthold because she is an abnormal titan? and because of her promise to Grisha that she will always chases Grisha and for some reason chases Eren as well and kills hannes and eren's mother in the process?

Correct me if i am wrong

She's not abnormal. She's just a mindless pure titan who happens to have royal blood that's all. The smile is because she was smiling at Grisha while she was transforming so her face got stuck like this as a titan. Her being there during the attack was just pure coincidence.

okay i see the difference
I mean isayama implies that the reason dina always follows eren is because of the promise she made with grisha, otherwise there is no reason that dialogue exists.

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ReRakCakMag said:
In chapter 139, Eren controlled Dina's titan to ignore Bertholt and kill his mom. How did he do it?
Eren can manipulate his dad, because Grisha is Attack Titan. But Dina is not a Titan shifter, and by the time Dina killed Carla, Eren still hasn't received the Founding Titan power.
So, how can Eren control Dina's titan in 845?

Because Ymir for fuck sake.

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el3mel said:

She's not abnormal. She's just a mindless pure titan who happens to have royal blood that's all. The smile is because she was smiling at Grisha while she was transforming so her face got stuck like this as a titan. Her being there during the attack was just pure coincidence.

okay i see the difference
I mean isayama implies that the reason dina always follows eren is because of the promise she made with grisha, otherwise there is no reason that dialogue exists.

Considering that future Eren controlled her at this scene to eat his mother so that he kickstarts his journey, it won't really be a big surprise if he's the one who also controlled her to confront himself during Clash of Titans arc so that he discovers his founder ability.

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The Founding Titan can alter the past and control pure titans. Not to mention that it can also create pure titans, change the subjects of Ymir biologically, alter their memories, etc, etc. Therefore, when Eren unlocked it's full power, he was able to do that.

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el3mel said:

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okay i see the difference
I mean isayama implies that the reason dina always follows eren is because of the promise she made with grisha, otherwise there is no reason that dialogue exists.

Considering that future Eren controlled her at this scene to eat his mother so that he kickstarts his journey, it won't really be a big surprise if he's the one who also controlled her to confront himself during Clash of Titans arc so that he discovers his founder ability.

i think that fair
I just like it when she says that without eren's interference because it makes her character more compelling and more dramatic.
The same reason why I like the reason why Levi doesn't turn into a Titan is because he prefers black tea over wine, because it emphasizes Levi's character more. not just because of the titan rules or something, But I think Isayama has done a great job, btw thanks man

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deninanut said:

el3mel said:

Considering that future Eren controlled her at this scene to eat his mother so that he kickstarts his journey, it won't really be a big surprise if he's the one who also controlled her to confront himself during Clash of Titans arc so that he discovers his founder ability.

i think that fair
I just like it when she says that without eren's interference because it makes her character more compelling and more dramatic.
The same reason why I like the reason why Levi doesn't turn into a Titan is because he prefers black tea over wine, because it emphasizes Levi's character more. not just because of the titan rules or something, But I think Isayama has done a great job, btw thanks man

But the Ackerman clan are immune to titanization, Levi made it clear in chapter 138 when the worm released the gas to turn everyone into titans. Levi drinking the wine or not wouldn't have mattered. He wouldn't have turned either way.

Apr 8, 2021 3:39 PM

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