| The show itself acknowledges that Paul is scum, but their casual attitude makes me sick. He's a piece of shit, and I can't continue watching this show |
| Waaahhh waaah I can't have character complexity or depth |
Sammysama said: Waaahhh waaah I can't have character complexity or depth That's not the problem here, the problem is that every other character knows he is scum but are okay with it. We never got to see him get the punishment he deserves for cheating on Zenith, and allegedly raping Lilia a few years back. I still think the whole cheating part in the beginning of Episode 4 was a very forced family drama and was completely unnecessary. |
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Gilgameshuu said: Sammysama said: Waaahhh waaah I can't have character complexity or depth That's not the problem here, the problem is that every other character knows he is scum but are okay with it. We never got to see him get the punishment he deserves for cheating on Zenith, and allegedly raping Lilia a few years back. I still think the whole cheating part in the beginning of Episode 4 was a very forced family drama and was completely unnecessary. Did you not see the entire damn episode where they chew out Paul for making such an awful mistake and reconcile over it for the better of their family. You people are ridiculous, you act like someone should be raked over coals to repent. Nobody is "okay" with it. They just tolerate it because it would cause more problems and tragedy to break up the family over it. |
Gilgameshuu said: I suggest you read this scene in the webnovel because I feel like it was done much better. They omit a lot of things like zenith's pov, completly gloss over lilia's backstory, and that fact that zenith knew rudeus was lying.Sammysama said: Waaahhh waaah I can't have character complexity or depth That's not the problem here, the problem is that every other character knows he is scum but are okay with it. We never got to see him get the punishment he deserves for cheating on Zenith, and allegedly raping Lilia a few years back. I still think the whole cheating part in the beginning of Episode 4 was a very forced family drama and was completely unnecessary. |
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| Perfect example of an asshole parent |
| Then you really should stop watching because in this series everyone and I mean EVERYONE is grey, there's no black or white, if you think the series is not worth watching just because 1 character turns out to be not like you expected then you should stop. But remember that this is just episode 4, and this series is beloved by its fans and the Re zero author is its biggest fanboy for a reason. |
| Just a otaku... yup, that's it... |
| Omg, I wonder what would happen to them if Elinalise Dragonroad is finally introduced. |
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| HAHAHA! Now thats funny. I remember seeing someone last week saying Paul was such a great guy and how he was their favorite character. Oh boy... little did they know. Paul is human. Sometimes humans do pretty shitty stuff welcome to the real world. See ya goober don't let the door hit ya on your way out. |
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testamentKAISER said: Omg, I wonder what would happen to them if Elinalise Dragonroad is finally introduced. They'd be fine with it cuz slut shaming is bad bro. But just wait till the end of the 2nd cour with you know what... these people will fucking faint and die on the spot lmao. |
hoopla123 said: testamentKAISER said: Omg, I wonder what would happen to them if Elinalise Dragonroad is finally introduced. They'd be fine with it cuz slut shaming is bad bro. But just wait till the end of the 2nd cour with you know what... these people will fucking faint and die on the spot lmao. I can't wait. Hehehehehe MT is not for sjws and holier than thous. |
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| I hate how people are forcing all these "He is human" He's inherently flawed" or "He's realistic" or even "It's medieval era chill dude different morals" to justify Paul's actions down on people's throats. OP isn't even complaining about that, yes he is human and realistic but that doesn't make him any less of a piece of shit, that doesn't remove the fact that he did something horrible. Everyone is born in a different environment and have different cultures and traditions, it's only natural that we have different beliefs and perspectives on morality, a lot of people will find these uncomfortable and disgusting, and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, but people seem to judge others for feeling that way and are quick to defend MT, now I'm not going to make the same mistake as you and judge you for defending your viewpoint of the matter, since as I've stated we all have different beliefs and are raised in very different environments and cultures, but please for the love of god don't judge others for not having the same opinion as you. If someone finds Paul's actions to be shitty then that's fine! You don't have to spam with all these "But he's human and realistic!" bs. Here's an example: Suppose a guy murders his father because of all the abuse his father made him go through, yes you can argue his actions is justified, and understandable but that doesn't make murder a good thing, both the son and the father are fucked up. I'll take another example, now from my favorite show, Re:Zero. Subaru acts all cringey but it's realistic since he has a very human and flawed character, but that doesn't make his actions any less cringey.(I'm only using this as an example, I personally wasn't bothered by him) |
GilgameshuuFeb 1, 2021 11:06 PM
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Gilgameshuu said: I hate how people are using "He is human" He's inherently flawed" or "He's realistic" or even "It's medieval era chill dude different morals" to justify Paul's actions when it's not justifying anything. ) Is anyone really justifying his actions? I'm justifying the show/LN. Yes Paul is a real bastard for the things he has done. But this isn't like other isekai where everyone associated(friendly) with the MC is a perfect person that simply lives to serve the MC. These people are real. They are flawed. They can do some shitty things. You even complained earlier that we didn't see him get the punishment he deserved. Like.... welcome to the real world where people get away with some fucked up shit. Buckle up buckeroos it's gonna be a bumpy ride. |
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Gilgameshuu said: I hate how people are forcing all these "He is human" He's inherently flawed" or "He's realistic" or even "It's medieval era chill dude different morals" to justify Paul's actions down on people's throats. OP isn't even complaining about that, yes he is human and realistic but that doesn't make him any less of a piece of shit, that doesn't remove the fact that he did something horrible. Everyone is born in a different environment and have different cultures and traditions, it's only natural that we have different beliefs and perspectives on morality, a lot of people will find these uncomfortable and disgusting, and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, but people seem to judge others for feeling that way and are quick to defend MT, now I'm not going to make the same mistake as you and judge you for defending your viewpoint of the matter, since as I've stated we all have different beliefs and are raised in very different environments and cultures, but please for the love of god don't judge others for not having the same opinion as you. If someone finds Paul's actions to be shitty then that's fine! You don't have to spam with all these "But he's human and realistic!" bs. Here's an example: Suppose a guy murders his father because of all the abuse his father made him go through, yes you can argue his actions is justified, and understandable but that doesn't make murder a good thing, both the son and the father are fucked up. I'll take another example, now from my favorite show, Re:Zero. Subaru acts all cringey but it's realistic since he has a very human and flawed character, but that doesn't make his actions any less cringey.(I'm only using this as an example, I personally wasn't bothered by him) You literally said don't use the words "realistic and flawed" for Paul only to proceed to use it for your example with Subaru. Full on clown mode lmao. |
hoopla123 said: Gilgameshuu said: I hate how people are forcing all these "He is human" He's inherently flawed" or "He's realistic" or even "It's medieval era chill dude different morals" to justify Paul's actions down on people's throats. OP isn't even complaining about that, yes he is human and realistic but that doesn't make him any less of a piece of shit, that doesn't remove the fact that he did something horrible. Everyone is born in a different environment and have different cultures and traditions, it's only natural that we have different beliefs and perspectives on morality, a lot of people will find these uncomfortable and disgusting, and there is nothing wrong with feeling that way, but people seem to judge others for feeling that way and are quick to defend MT, now I'm not going to make the same mistake as you and judge you for defending your viewpoint of the matter, since as I've stated we all have different beliefs and are raised in very different environments and cultures, but please for the love of god don't judge others for not having the same opinion as you. If someone finds Paul's actions to be shitty then that's fine! You don't have to spam with all these "But he's human and realistic!" bs. Here's an example: Suppose a guy murders his father because of all the abuse his father made him go through, yes you can argue his actions is justified, and understandable but that doesn't make murder a good thing, both the son and the father are fucked up. I'll take another example, now from my favorite show, Re:Zero. Subaru acts all cringey but it's realistic since he has a very human and flawed character, but that doesn't make his actions any less cringey.(I'm only using this as an example, I personally wasn't bothered by him) You literally said don't use the words "realistic and flawed" for Paul only to proceed to use it for your example with Subaru. Full on clown mode lmao. Man, are you quick to find faults in my statement. I was just simply really pissed off and had to vent out my frustrations. |
GilgameshuuFeb 1, 2021 11:20 PM
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Gilgameshuu said: hoopla123 said: You literally said don't use the words "realistic and flawed" for Paul only to proceed to use it for your example with Subaru. Full on clown mode lmao. Man, are you quick to find faults in my statement. I was just simply really pissed off and had to vent out my frustration. I can agree with your point if you want to argue that people are saying that Paul cheating on Zenith is okay and dandy and doesn't make him a shitty person just because he is realistic and that he is flawed (which makes no sense in the first place since they are stating that he is flawed). The problem is, you are talking to a wall here. No one is saying that Paul isn't a piece of shit for cheating on Zenith. All they are saying like you did with Subaru is that Paul is a flawed and realistic character in the show and the setting of the world in the series does not have a high moral standard when it comes to cheating (this is a world where polygamy is accepted for nobles and royalty etc). If you don't like cheating in your series, that's fine. Shows that cover shit like this aint for you but don't make an argument out of thin air and vent out your frustration, |
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Considering she left her family because of the strict conditions and married a playboy like Paul shows she aint much of a devout follower of it that's for sure. |
hoopla123 said: testamentKAISER said: Omg, I wonder what would happen to them if Elinalise Dragonroad is finally introduced. They'd be fine with it cuz slut shaming is bad bro. But just wait till the end of the 2nd cour with you know what... these people will fucking faint and die on the spot lmao. kek. If they exploded over what happened last week, that revelation is going to be a atomic bomb. |
| who cares about Paul? |
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ExcaliburAO said: I suggest you read this scene in the webnovel because I feel like it was done much better. They omit a lot of things like zenith's pov, completly gloss over lilia's backstory, and that fact that zenith knew rudeus was lying. My favorite Paladin of the situation ! MAL need an army of people like you ! Sorry , for me is so obvious that important pieces are missing when making anime that clearly it's a fact that they do it on purpose or people would stop reading its main source lol XD I might starting to act like a FAN for any anime just because of pointless discussions like this one are made ROFL If you guys don't like its animation read is a good option if you liked it but dropped it for reasons like those one alike who opened the thread ... I've nothing to say more than this as its beyond stupid of me trying to reason with people that don't reach ExcaliburAO level of understanding ... Always thanx for writing that ! See you around 😎 |
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| Back just after 7 min of watch time on ep4 ... I'm laughing so much to all the situation that I really don't understand what's the problem with it ... Get some real life experience ! That animation is so good lol , anyway I doubt non adults users can understand all of that . Go back and watch shows more suited to your age , have fun with those , this is 18-24+ content , and if you don't understand it clearly you are not an adult . Don't waist time on quoting me , I'm 27 and this is fun content for anyone that is CAPABLE of understand it . Bye PG-13 or older viewers ! See you again 18+ and adults 😎 |
IA_HuryKane_BTXDFeb 2, 2021 3:31 PM
If you don't appreciate art , anime aren't for you , there is nothing wrong in them , nothing is perfect ! If you criticize Anime you should release your reviews directly to people and authors that made em ! Anime will not get any better if reviews do not get outside the borders of this website , change this ! |
Shirase-san said: who cares about Paul? Yo agreed lol , F him and is decisions , it made it so much more entertaining hahaha |
IA_HuryKane_BTXDFeb 2, 2021 6:07 AM
If you don't appreciate art , anime aren't for you , there is nothing wrong in them , nothing is perfect ! If you criticize Anime you should release your reviews directly to people and authors that made em ! Anime will not get any better if reviews do not get outside the borders of this website , change this ! |
bledsoe60 said: The show itself acknowledges that Paul is scum, but their casual attitude makes me sick. He's a piece of shit, and I can't continue watching this show Ok bye. Stop virtue signaling, nobody cares if you continue to watch this or not. |
| @Sammysama Did you not see the entire damn episode where they chew out Paul for making such an awful mistake and reconcile over it for the better of their family. You people are ridiculous, you act like someone should be raked over coals to repent. Nobody is "okay" with it. They just tolerate it because it would cause more problems and tragedy to break up the family over it. LoL, if "rape" and cheating isn't enough reason to break up the family, what would they consider "crossing the line" then??? I've seen women more mad during their period than Zenith was after her husband impregnated their maid in their own house!!! Don't know about LN, but anime executed the drama very poorly. Makes you wonder why Paul can't just go F some other women out there in the village? Zenith will be mad like for a week, so who cares? |
| Feel free, you'll be the only one missing out. It's up to you what you do watch and what you don't watch, but your reason is pretty stupid. |
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bledsoe60 said: The show itself acknowledges that Paul is scum, but their casual attitude makes me sick. He's a piece of shit, and I can't continue watching this show If this is enough for you to drop an anime, go better watch some shonen for kids. You clearly can understand some complex characters and the fact that life is not just black and white. |
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