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Jan 21, 2021 6:41 PM
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Essentially what is says in the title.

I really appreciate good fight scenes and story in my shounen anime and whilst the story of FMA:B was good at best, for me, the fight scenes felt a bit bland.

The only fight scenes I enjoyed were
Though they were pretty short.

In my opinion even the openings had better animated fight scenes than the entire show combined.

The only redeeming quality for me was the story.

What do you guys think regarding this?


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Jan 21, 2021 7:27 PM
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Im pretty sure the anime was not really dependent on the fight scenes but more driven by its characters and plot. But i see where your coming from and i totally agree with you, i think the creators intended it to be like that especially since i believe the first anime FMA was somewhat similar.
Jan 21, 2021 7:46 PM
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Im pretty sure the anime was not really dependent on the fight scenes but more driven by its characters and plot. But i see where your coming from and i totally agree with you, i think the creators intended it to be like that especially since i believe the first anime FMA was somewhat similar.


I do get your point though for me the characters felt pretty shallow, except for


I watched this show for the first time a few months ago and from all the media I've consumed in my 19 years of living, in my opinion the plot too was pretty mediocre. "Good" at best. Though that could also be because this came out over a decade ago...


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Jan 21, 2021 8:00 PM
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RayAnna81194 said:
Vish03 said:
Im pretty sure the anime was not really dependent on the fight scenes but more driven by its characters and plot. But i see where your coming from and i totally agree with you, i think the creators intended it to be like that especially since i believe the first anime FMA was somewhat similar.


I do get your point though for me the characters felt pretty shallow, except for


I watched this show for the first time a few months ago and from all the media I've consumed in my 19 years of living, in my opinion the plot too was pretty mediocre. "Good" at best. Though that could also be because this came out over a decade ago...


Personally for me I watched it about like 5-6 years ago and it was like one of the first couple of shows that dragged me into to the anime community. So it could be that this show was aiming to be like an introduction to anime community because most people know about this show even those that are not heavily committed to watching anime shows. The feeling you might be feeling is that your knowledge in anime shows has developed and expectations have been raised, hence that can explain the feeling of not what you wanted it to be.
Jan 21, 2021 8:03 PM
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No, only you probably.

This is not dragon ball you know and there arent any disappointing fights in FMAB imo, they are all nice enough.



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Jan 21, 2021 8:11 PM
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Bones bullshitting me every night when I watched that series.
Jan 21, 2021 8:11 PM
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No, only you probably.

This is not dragon ball you know and there arent any disappointing fights in FMAB imo, they are all nice enough.


I mean maybe it is just me but I don't think the fight scenes were nearly as good as Studio Bones' other stuff.

I'm also not asking for Dragon Ball quality as that would be unrealistic.

Sorry if I come off as passive-aggressive, not my intention.
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Jan 21, 2021 8:14 PM
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Vish03 said:
The feeling you might be feeling is that your knowledge in anime shows has developed and expectations have been raised, hence that can explain the feeling of not what you wanted it to be.


That could be it though I don't want to come off as arrogant.

My knowledge in anime is as layman as it gets.


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Jan 21, 2021 8:14 PM
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Not really. How they had fewer fight scenes improved the characters and writing. One of the Roy fights were top tier too, made up for the number of fights in this show too
Jan 21, 2021 8:15 PM

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Bones bullshitting me every night when I watched that series.


Lol, straight to the point I see...


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Jan 21, 2021 8:17 PM
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RayAnna81194 said:
Rinrinka said:
No, only you probably.

This is not dragon ball you know and there arent any disappointing fights in FMAB imo, they are all nice enough.


I mean maybe it is just me but I don't think the fight scenes were nearly as good as Studio Bones' other stuff.

I'm also not asking for Dragon Ball quality as that would be unrealistic.

Sorry if I come of as passive-aggressive, not my intention.

Dont worry about that, I was just kinda surprised because this is the first time I see someone disappointed of FMAB fight scenes so I thought you were expecting some explosive Dragon Ball level of fight or something hhe

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Jan 21, 2021 8:20 PM

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HelProcks said:
Not really. How they had fewer fight scenes improved the characters and writing. One of the Roy fights were top tier too, made up for the number of fights in this show too


I agree to disagree, I think the characters overall were pretty cliché and their actions - predictable - except as I mentioned before


As for plot, eh. The majority of plot twists were expected for me except for
Its one of the reasons I think he's the best written character of the show.

I didn't think any of Roy's fights were good to be honest. Sure, the animation was clean though it was just him essentially
You could say that's oversimplifying it, though I would need some form of valid argument to support that claim.


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RayAnna81194 said:
HelProcks said:
Not really. How they had fewer fight scenes improved the characters and writing. One of the Roy fights were top tier too, made up for the number of fights in this show too


I agree to disagree, I think the characters overall were pretty cliché and their actions - predictable - except as I mentioned before


As for plot, eh. The majority of plot twists were expected for me except for
Its one of the reasons I think he's the best written character of the show.

I didn't think any of Roy's fights were good to be honest. Sure, the animation was clean though it was just him essentially
You could say that's oversimplifying it, though I would need some form of valid argument to support that claim.

Really? A lot of the characters were not clich'e for me. But if that's what you think then it's fine.

When did I talk about plot twists tho? I'm confused

Ray's fights was really good. His rage was beautiful smh
Jan 21, 2021 8:39 PM

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HelProcks said:
RayAnna81194 said:


I agree to disagree, I think the characters overall were pretty cliché and their actions - predictable - except as I mentioned before


As for plot, eh. The majority of plot twists were expected for me except for
Its one of the reasons I think he's the best written character of the show.

I didn't think any of Roy's fights were good to be honest. Sure, the animation was clean though it was just him essentially
You could say that's oversimplifying it, though I would need some form of valid argument to support that claim.

Really? A lot of the characters were not clich'e for me. But if that's what you think then it's fine.

When did I talk about plot twists tho? I'm confused

Ray's fights was really good. His rage was beautiful smh


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.



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Jan 21, 2021 8:46 PM

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RayAnna81194 said:
HelProcks said:

Really? A lot of the characters were not clich'e for me. But if that's what you think then it's fine.

When did I talk about plot twists tho? I'm confused

Ray's fights was really good. His rage was beautiful smh


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.


Yeah the plot twists aren't the most enjoyable but there were really exciting.

Oh I meant the emotions put in the fight.
How it showed Rize and Roy's relationship with each other was great
Jan 21, 2021 8:49 PM

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HelProcks said:
RayAnna81194 said:


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.


Yeah the plot twists aren't the most enjoyable but there were really exciting.

Oh I meant the emotions put in the fight.
How it showed Rize and Roy's relationship with each other was great


I'm all about shipping characters, so I agree.


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Jan 21, 2021 8:51 PM

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RayAnna81194 said:
HelProcks said:

Yeah the plot twists aren't the most enjoyable but there were really exciting.

Oh I meant the emotions put in the fight.
How it showed Rize and Roy's relationship with each other was great


I'm all about shipping characters, so I agree.

These two were cute haha
Jan 21, 2021 8:56 PM

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HelProcks said:
RayAnna81194 said:


I'm all about shipping characters, so I agree.

These two were cute haha


At least we agreed on something lol.


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These two were cute haha


At least we agreed on something lol.

Yep. This ship is my fav in the FMA series
Jan 22, 2021 12:01 AM
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I agree with you

Only fight i liked was Wrath and Scar but they were pretty short

They also have many moments where they try to be funny but fail at it
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true. i also enjoyed the fire dude going berserk on envy but that was just a str8 murder instead of a fight. fmab story is good tho
Jan 22, 2021 8:33 PM
This anime is very overrated. I've watched FMAB weeks ago and I can only remember 3 or 4 good fight scenes in 64 episodes: almost all King Bradley fights and he just an amazing character in a mediocre anime.

Just like someone mentioned: "So it could be that this show was aiming to be like an introduction to anime community". This explains the high score and why many people tend to ignore most FMAB flaws since they were new at that time. FMAB overall score is just like a typical overrated seasonal anime.
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This anime is very overrated. I've watched FMAB weeks ago and I can only remember 3 or 4 good fight scenes in 64 episodes: almost all King Bradley fights and he just an amazing character in a mediocre anime.

Just like someone mentioned: "So it could be that this show was aiming to be like an introduction to anime community". This explains the high score and why many people tend to ignore most FMAB flaws since they were new at that time. FMAB overall score is just like a typical overrated seasonal anime.


I agree with this completely.


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This is not a Battle shonen anime, is a fantasy Focus anime, Adventure and mystery (kinda for the plot twist here a d there) , also is very character driven so if battles happen all the time It would Lost the spark, i think It has the correct amount .

I also enjoyed a LOT that if the person was badly Hurt then they needed to rest, showing that they were not invensible , i hate when character are punch and slam to walls and SEND nuclear booms and they happen to be ok lol.

I like that the mangaka try to make the anime a little realistic taking into account they use Magic and everything
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I was also disappointed with the lack of good action scenes, the only decent action scenes are the ones with King Bradley but the action scenes are the least of my worries, this anime has plenty of other stupid dumb shit that I disliked.

This is by far the most overrated garbage anime I have witnessed.
Jan 25, 2021 5:02 AM
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Yep, and characters having same mind set and not changing at all made me so bored
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What do you mean? They were really good.
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RayAnna81194 said:
HelProcks said:

Really? A lot of the characters were not clich'e for me. But if that's what you think then it's fine.

When did I talk about plot twists tho? I'm confused

Ray's fights was really good. His rage was beautiful smh


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable.

Well if its a mystery-thriller, yes. But its a fantasy universe. So whats more important is creating a fantasy world which is believable and enjoyable. the characters should feel real etc... Then only things like plot twist, fight scenes etc... can add on those. I think that what fmab achieved best was creating a fantasy world which was believable and enjoyable. I liked the characters and there interactions very much. The plot was also really good.
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shubh_jain_2 said:
RayAnna81194 said:


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable.

Well if its a mystery-thriller, yes. But its a fantasy universe. So whats more important is creating a fantasy world which is believable and enjoyable. the characters should feel real etc... Then only things like plot twist, fight scenes etc... can add on those. I think that what fmab achieved best was creating a fantasy world which was believable and enjoyable. I liked the characters and there interactions very much. The plot was also really good.


Personally I felt the world was a bit too believable.

It just felt like they were living on Earth with a bit of alchemy sprinkled in.

I was disappointed because the potential could have been so much more. Where're the chimera civilisations? Where's the complicated architecture? Where's the advanced technology?

If alchemy were real I would have expected a much more fantastical setting as a result of using that alchemy for so long but it seems that the humans in the FMA universe just seem to use alchemy for militaristic purposes mostly - they even have 'state alchemists' for crying out loud...


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RayAnna81194 said:


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable. That along with the overarching plot itself being quite hard to understand until later on in the series. It felt like although there was a looming threat - I didn't know enough about it to really understand how significant it was until the end of the show at which point it really didn't matter because
I have a bunch more to say about the plot but I'll leave it for now.

Roy did have a lot of rage sure, but, rage does not equal good fight - unless that's not what your implying.


Plot twists are arguably a must-have in fiction to make it so a narrative is unpredictable and arguably enjoyable.

Well if its a mystery-thriller, yes. But its a fantasy universe. So whats more important is creating a fantasy world which is believable and enjoyable. the characters should feel real etc... Then only things like plot twist, fight scenes etc... can add on those. I think that what fmab achieved best was creating a fantasy world which was believable and enjoyable. I liked the characters and there interactions very much. The plot was also really good.


Also the plot in my opinion was "good" at best.

It might be because I've seen most of the tropes before and in a huge quantity.


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Kaiz- said:
What do you mean? They were really good.


My explanation is somewhere above your comment.

I'm sorry, I can't be bothered to write it out again...


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Yep, and characters having same mind set and not changing at all made me so bored


I agree, it felt like the characters basically had little to no development.

The only real thing I can remember is Ed and Al saying something along the lines of: "philosopher's stones' are made out of people. We don't like that."

Even their goals at the end of the series seemed a bit odd. I would've hated alchemy by the end of the journey seeing what they had seen.


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Do u know this anime was made in 2009?

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Scordolo said:
Do u know this anime was made in 2009?


I don't see how that's relevant to be quite frank. Just saying X was made in Y year doesn't argue anything. It's simply stating a fact.

Don't bother elaborating, I feel as if it'd be a repeat of all the points I've already dealt with.


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Scordolo said:
Do u know this anime was made in 2009?


I don't see how that's relevant to be quite frank. Just saying X was made in Y year doesn't argue anything. It's simply stating a fact.

Don't bother elaborating, I feel as if it'd be a repeat of all the points I've already dealt with.

i said that because it is made in 2009 so you shouldn't be expecting godlike animation.

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Scordolo said:
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I don't see how that's relevant to be quite frank. Just saying X was made in Y year doesn't argue anything. It's simply stating a fact.

Don't bother elaborating, I feel as if it'd be a repeat of all the points I've already dealt with.

i said that because it is made in 2009 so you shouldn't be expecting godlike animation.


I thought you might repeat a previous argument.

I'm not expecting 'godlike' animation like DBZ or something. Just a bit better than what it ended up being. Considering how good Bones' animation was in previous works before FMA:B, it was pretty disappointing.


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RayAnna81194 said:
Essentially what is says in the title.

I really appreciate good fight scenes and story in my shounen anime and whilst the story of FMA:B was good at best, for me, the fight scenes felt a bit bland.

The only fight scenes I enjoyed were
Though they were pretty short.

In my opinion even the openings had better animated fight scenes than the entire show combined.

The only redeeming quality for me was the story.

What do you guys think regarding this?


I think your disappointment might stem from the fighting style in this world.
People in Amestris rarely fight in hand to hand combat. So, there is little choreography there.
They mostly depend on Alchemy during fights, which results in ranged attacks.
The fun in tge fights, is actually the innovative ways they use there Alchemic skills during a fight.
Their fighting style is in tune with the the world they live in.
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I prefer the fights in FMA over most other shonens.

For the same reason the final fight in Fate Zero is among my favorites.

Shonens are too obbssed with long ass 1v1 fights to me.
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I agree with what most others are saying about how FMAB is not about the fights as much as the characters and worldbuilding. However if we are focusing on fights i think you are forgetting some of the greatest.
Mustang vs Lust
Mustang vs Envy
Ed vs Pride
Scar vs Kimberly
Armstrong vs Sloth
Greedling vs Wrath
Those are a few of my favorites that you didn't mention, so even if they weren't the main focus there were a ton of great fights.
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My only disapointment was that Edward never really won a fight.

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