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| He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. |
| Dung Beetle - Bokurano - He only does thing for the lols but people seem to hate him for it. He's still nice enough to fulfill the requests of the children, i mean how gutted would that kid have been if Dung Beetle said "No, I'm not transporting you to the hospital so you can give your friend the transplant". Deidara - Naruto - Even though he's works for Akatsuki he's a lot better than any members of Konoha, he killed Gaara so what? Konoha are being hypocrites since they're just as much of killers themselves. Aizen - Bleach - Hinamori deserved it, so do Renji and Ichigo since they were going against soul society to save Rukia... Even though Aizen set it up for Rukia to die that's just a small detail. Ichimaru - Bleach - He hasn't done anything wrong, in fact he had to withstand Toushirou's false allegations against him, and gate keepers are supposed to keep people out. Mayuri - Bleach - Nemu deserved it, i mean what was she thinking about letting go?! And then to start coughing, noisy woman. Ladd Russo - Baccano! - They all deserved it, especially that 10 or so year old kid in episode 1 (I'm bad at remembering names). All misunderstood people. And not the type of people who do the 'pussy out technique' that's quite popular in animes, which involves a flashback into some tragic event of their past that makes people pity and spare them. |
OriginalNameOct 4, 2007 11:26 AM
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OmegaJudgement said: Ladd Russo - Baccano! - They all deserved it, especially that 10 or so year old kid XD |
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| Makoto - Everyone is just jealous of his mad pimping skills. (but he still got what he deserved :P) |
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| Kyon: People don't see what a genius character he is! |
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windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Agreed! he has a good reason to become an emo XD I like Shinji >.> |
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Saika said: windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Agreed! he has a good reason to become an emo XD I like Shinji >.> Also agreed xD And all the other 'indecisive' or 'emo' characters people always hate. Even if the shows don't display the reasoning or /attempt/ to paint them the bad guy/loser, they always have a reason for what they have done. All humans are on an equal plane. Nobody is more "inherently" evil than anybody else. Characters like Tohru, however, from fruits basket, seem to have been graced with such a personality as to understand this. And (in some quite unrealistic but ideal ways, and through a method that is actually possible) is able to inspire people to overcome the personalities in which society has laid on them. See, I'm an optimistic cynic? Thanks indigo xD |
asandariOct 4, 2007 1:10 PM
asandari said: See, I'm an optimistic sinnick? (I don't know how to spell it -.-) Cynic you mean? And I also agree with all those above said. People have their own problems and its no like others can truly understand what you're passing through. It made me remember Jean Paul Sartre and his existencialism :o It's a great thing to read. |
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Indigo said: asandari said: See, I'm an optimistic sinnick? (I don't know how to spell it -.-) Cynic you mean? And I also agree with all those above said. People have their own problems and its no like others can truly understand what you're passing through. It made me remember Jean Paul Sartre and his existencialism :o It's a great thing to read. You mean existentialism? |
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Saika said: Kyon: People don't see what a genius character he is! 278 users have him as a favorite character. I don't see how he's misunderstood. XD I think Chibi-usa/Sailor Chibi Moon is misunderstood. Because well, people just hate her because she comes off as a stupid brat when she's actually more complex than that (at least, in the manga, I'm not 100% on her portrayal in the anime). |
url_elfOct 4, 2007 9:44 PM
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Saika said: windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Agreed! he has a good reason to become an emo XD I like Shinji >.> lol but he didn't really have a good reason to |
kei-clone said: Saika said: windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Agreed! he has a good reason to become an emo XD I like Shinji >.> lol but he didn't really have a good reason to ...I would of. Join the Asuka Soryuu Appreciation Club! *blush* |
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| Ito Makoto From School Days!!! Jesus that character is so misunderstood and i dont know why.. Its obvious that this is not his fault and i can really support my opinion (cause i know that many MANY ppl hate him).Just too many ppl hate this guy without reasojn.... Ushould focus all ur hate to Near From Deathnote instead and let all other character alone :) |
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Cloud1234 said: Ito Makoto From School Days!!! Jesus that character is so misunderstood and i dont know why.. Its obvious that this is not his fault and i can really support my opinion (cause i know that many MANY ppl hate him).Just too many ppl hate this guy without reasojn.... Ushould focus all ur hate to Near From Deathnote instead and let all other character alone :) Haha I agree, Makoto isn't that bad, but I love the fact that people hate him so much lol XD Death to Near!! |
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kei-clone said: Saika said: windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Agreed! he has a good reason to become an emo XD I like Shinji >.> lol but he didn't really have a good reason to yeah.... it was pretty weird 0,0 |
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OmegaJudgement said: Ladd Russo - Baccano! - They all deserved it, especially that 10 or so year old kid in episode 1 (I'm bad at remembering names). As for myself, I'm name dropping Fuhrer President King Bradley. Most people only know him from the Anime, with reduced screentime and low relevance. If people read the Manga, they'd know how awesome he truly is. Shinji Ikari's another big one, but that's been covered. |
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BadSeafood said: OmegaJudgement said: Ladd Russo - Baccano! - They all deserved it, especially that 10 or so year old kid in episode 1 (I'm bad at remembering names). |
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windy said: Shinji Ikari - I have no way to defend him but I don't think he deserves 100% of the bad way he's treated. I mean come on, wouldn't you be emo too? Yeah, totally agreed. What was he, 14 years old when all that happened? Please, he was still growing up. I wouldn't have done half of the great things he did at that age. I would've just bawled my eyes out and refused to move from mommy's side. |
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| I think Darcia the Third is awesome, even though many people are quick to call him simply evil. I consider him the most tragic character in Wolf's Rain not only because |
| He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. |
| Are we talking about characters who are misunderstood in the actual anime they're in? Or characters who are misunderstood by us watchers? If it's the former, it's definitely Kawahira Keita from Inukami, hands down. He always somehow ends up naked in the city, and he always ends up in prison and being labeled as a pervert because of it. And a bunch of other stuff that I'm forgetting. He's awesome though. xD |
OmegaJudgement said: Aizen - Bleach - Hinamori deserved it, so do Renji and Ichigo since they were going against soul society to save Rukia... Even though Aizen set it up for Rukia to die that's just a small detail. Mayuri - Bleach - Nemu deserved it, i mean what was she thinking about letting go?! And then to start coughing, noisy woman. Please tell me you're kidding. Almost everyone is going to either disagree with me, or not care, but I'm gonna say Uchiha Sasuke from Naruto. Now, I don't disagree with people calling him a rude little brat, but it's more the "emo" thing I disagree with. Like a lot of the others have already said, it's not fair to call someone emo when they have a legitamite reason to be angsty. I'm impressed the kid has actually kept his sanity as much as he has. Another one I want to mention is not so much a specific character, but kind of an archetype. It's the female character, usually in love with the main character, who is weaker than the other characters, or just dislikes fighting all together, and needs to be protected by the others. Sooner or later, she realizes this fault, and looks down on herself for it. Most people only see this aspect of the character. They see her as weak and whiney. But, more often than not, this character's resolve is stronger than people give them credit for, and she legitimately tries to better herself for the sake of those around her. The writers, however, put a lot more emphasis on the character looking down on herself, rather than showing her trying to better herself, or showing the results of that effort. Sometimes I feel like they entirely forget to show any kind of character development for these girls past the point in which they resolve to change. |
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ichikiba said: Almost everyone is going to either disagree with me, or not care, but I'm gonna say Uchiha Sasuke from Naruto. lolwut ^^ |
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| I glad that so many people on this thread feel the same way that I do about Shinji. In the world of anime full of bad-ass protangonists who all seem to be trigger/sword/fist-happy louts, I think it is refreshing to find a hero who is somewhat realistic. All those who accuse Shinji of being such a wimp should try living his life and then fighting giant monsters while driving a suit that takes a psychological toll on the pilot. They would be singing a different tune. And hey, at least Shinji put in the effort to do what was required. I would have just said fuck humanity and fuck you to that bastard Gendo. Then the human race would have been pretty much screwed (which they basically were anyway with what Gendo had in mind, but you get the idea). Also, I think that Kikyo from Inuyasha gets a bad rap. She does things that are no worse than alot of the other characters for reasons that are no more stupid that alot of them. Yet she is hated by the same people who adore some of these other characters (like Sesshomaru and Naraku). Do I sense a little misogyny at work here? |
-AtaraxiA- said: Are we talking about characters who are misunderstood in the actual anime they're in? Or characters who are misunderstood by us watchers? If it's the former, it's definitely Kawahira Keita from Inukami, hands down. He always somehow ends up naked in the city, and he always ends up in prison and being labeled as a pervert because of it. And a bunch of other stuff that I'm forgetting. He's awesome though. xD I love him too! Only.. he really enjoys being naked, kyahahaa x3 I can't think of any characters that have a bad reputation... only the ones that don't have any reputation should get some recognition. x_X |
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| I know they've been said before in this thread but definately Itou from School Days and Shinji from Evangelion. Itou is just like a drug addict who cant get enough of his fix, and poor Shinji has just had a really hard life and just needs someone to give him a hug! |
| asa shigure- some hate her because they think she's a theif... i don't think so.. i think there is more to it. she didint force the guy to like him, its his own feelings to love asa so i think there's more to her than a nice body and face, she is also a graet cook and very sweet and considerate... |
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| I don't really see what's so misunderstood about the characters, everyone can interpret a character differently because of how they are, it's when they convince other people to hate a character that they hate that annoys me, I liked a lot of characters listed here like Shinji, Shinku, Misuzu, and Sasuke. With that said, I hated Itou Makoto from School days, I just can't understand how he acts and I don't think I would understand the comparison between him and a drug addict either because I haven't been addicted to drugs before. |
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jared072 said: asa shigure- some hate her because they think she's a theif... i don't think so.. I can't speak for every Asa hater, but I only loathed her guts after the crap she pulled in the final episode. You don't... That's why I hate her. |
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Splitter said: jared072 said: asa shigure- some hate her because they think she's a theif... i don't think so.. I can't speak for every Asa hater, but I only loathed her guts after the crap she pulled in the final episode. You don't... That's why I hate her. Yeah, I thought she was the most likable character in Shuffle until then too. I might've given the show a 7 instead of a 6 if it weren't for that crap ending. |
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| Actually I am not very sure myself but I tend to wonder if Shinn Asuka from Gundam Seed Destiny really deserves all the hate for him. Even though it is true that he is easily manipulated and easily confused which is why most people labeled him as a brainless, emo destroyer. However, he does experience more tragedies than anyone deserves to. I would say he is rash and allowed his emotions to cloud his judgment but he was never downright evil. In the end when I would not say he is a good person but I do not think that he deserves to be crucified for what he did. He did have the potential to do much more unsalvageable mistakes though. As for other characters such as Shinji, Misuzu, Shinku and Satsuke, I did not hate them and I do like both Shinku and Misuzu. Personally, I do not get whats wrong with Shinku and Misuzu as they both do not deserve to be hated. However, everyone's perception of things and preferences do differ so I have nothing to say about that. |
InfernalMar 4, 2008 10:33 AM
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| Have to agree with everybody on Shinji. At the age of 14 being asked to pilot a robot and save the world non the less, sorry but for me that is quite a burden to have to carry. But what he did in Asuka's room was wrong though. |
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| Ulquiorra(Bleach) - People keep saying he's friggin EMO! They look at his rather "unique" look that seems like he's always crying. The irony is he's far from emo as in emotionless. Suzaku(Code Geass) - C'mon, he's not a whiney emo kid like everyone assumes. His bestfriend played him, the whole Euphemia thing...wouldn't you be mad? >_> Sasuke(Naruto) -....naw j/k hehe |
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| I actually like Relena from Gundam Wing. I never understood all the seething hatred for her. Maybe the slash fandom didn't want to think of anyone getting in the way of their precious 1x2 pairings or whatever? I dunno. ^^; |
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MagicalEmi said: I actually like Relena from Gundam Wing. I never understood all the seething hatred for her. Maybe the slash fandom didn't want to think of anyone getting in the way of their precious 1x2 pairings or whatever? I dunno. ^^; God bless her English voice actress for the way she calls out Heero's name. That will amuse me forever. |
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Seanpb said: Have to agree with everybody on Shinji. At the age of 14 being asked to pilot a robot and save the world non the less, sorry but for me that is quite a burden to have to carry. But what he did in Asuka's room was wrong though. Well, I thought he at least had self control and masturbating was all he did, if he was someone like Itou Makoto I don't think thats all he would have done. He also regretted it after, he said "I'm so messed up". One character I feel is misunderstood, probably because I interpreted him differently from others, is Yagami Light from Death Note, I feel that a lot of people think he's a heartless psychopath and that could be true... Here's my translation of him anyways... He had no one to talk to and was very lonely because of how different he was from others. He lacked the ability to effectively communicate his thoughts to other people and was frustrated because of that. Because he couldn't communicate his thoughts to other people he couldn't have any enjoyment talking to other people. Because he didn't talk to other people he believed that only his thoughts were correct. He couldn't stand seeing people in pain so he would rather see them dead. Because he believed his thoughts are correct he judged people based on his own thoughts when he obtained the Death Note. Because he was lonely he was bored, boredom makes people do pretty crazy things. |
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PandaPuff said: Agreed. Ulq is the biggest badass in Bleach. Emo kids can't be badasses.Ulquiorra(Bleach) - People keep saying he's friggin EMO! They look at his rather "unique" look that seems like he's always crying. The irony is he's far from emo as in emotionless. |
PandaPuff said: Suzaku(Code Geass) - C'mon, he's not a whiney emo kid like everyone assumes. His bestfriend played him, the whole Euphemia thing...wouldn't you be mad? >_> i don't think he's very whiny, or all that emo he's the antagonist of the story, and i don't like him, cuz, sure, you can get angry that your girlfriend my misunderstood character is Takaki Tōno from 5 centimeters per second, i've heard a lot of times that he's just an emo kid that can't get over a childhood crush, but i don't think that. It's not like he didn't continue his life, he made friends, had some lovers, even though they didn't work out, it just meant that up til that point, he has yet to find a girl that matches up, and who wants to just settle? I'd say his personality isn't emo, but more reminiscing or nostalgic, he thinks about the past, and what could've been, but lots of people think "what if" too |
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