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Sep 13, 2009 2:57 PM
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Jacut said:
Limited animation at its best (huh or is it worst?). This arc was as short as it was boring, nothing much happened, and what happened had already been said and done in the previous arcs. Also no Senjougahara - THE main point of interest of the series -, which means less interesting 9th and 10th episodes. Oh and as previously said, animation AND direction were below average (for the first and last time I hope, since they were the two other strong points of the show).

Oh and once again, I totally agree with some comments on the fact that Bakemonogatari is overrated. It's barely in my top 5 of the season.


You have no idea what you are talking about, this show is clearly the best in this season and probably will be the top competitor for the next Kobe award.
Sep 13, 2009 3:22 PM

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nOObman said:
5/5 Just because of the OP.
I agree... also


Bakemonogatari is just average but not overrated...
considering the shows that are airing right now this is one of the Good series
that's airing. not everyone is going to notice but guess that's their loss..
Sep 13, 2009 3:25 PM

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The OP *______*

I didn't really like the ending though, I hope the DVD version will fix this.
Sep 13, 2009 3:43 PM
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OP was cute
episode was pretty good
battle scene was a nice change of pace as this show is built on dialogue
needs more senjougahara


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Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM

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Enjoyed the episode a lot, although I agree that the stills were overdone and I hope that they fix it in the dvd-version. Nadeko is a great, I hope that she'll make some more appearances aswell.

OP was great, just soo moe.
Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM

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Vinhthehero said:
The novels and even the anime shows use dialogue to progress the story. Since there's usually a lot of talking in each episodes, SHAFT use random screens to make it less boring. It's being creative. It's not a harem, he just meets girls with oddities that he helps with. Most of them don't fall in love with him and they don't follow him around saying 'Oniichan~'


This \o/
Sep 13, 2009 4:04 PM

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I have mixed feelings about this episode, something that I didn't have until now, while watching Bakemonogatari.

One thing for sure - this is the worst arc until now and I won't argue about it, but I will state why. The main reason, it was just boring. The previous ones weren't, because the new girls introduced where interesting personas that were fun to watch while they interacted with Araragi. Nadeko... well, I think of her as a sad loli crying about her past and clearly in love with the main guy.

It's not that bad though, what saves it is the gory/horror-ish atmosphere and that Kanbaru gets some screentime too. Ah, and the new OP we got this time, which is pretty cool.

I'm also lowering the rating this time because we don't get no Senjougahara and that pizzes me off!

7-/10
Sep 13, 2009 5:19 PM
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took me long enough to finally watch it :) AMAZING! ha ha... and with my new earphones I had a cold sweat on through half the episode :P
Sep 13, 2009 6:31 PM

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vinesage said:
very nice episode again, especially for those loli-lovers among the audience I guess ;-)
though once again, Senjougahara made no appearance at all, but I sure hope she will come more often in Tsubasa Cat next week!
and if Tsubasa Cat gets done in 2 episodes, I really hope we can learn a bit more about Shinobu in the left 3 episodes.
Anyone knows what those 3 episodes will actually be about?
Thats what im hoping for... i want to know the story about Shinobu chan her story really intrest me.
Sep 13, 2009 6:48 PM

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Vinhthehero said:
Producer Shaft has previously been the subject of derision after it was revealed that the company is in dire and constant danger of failing to meet its production deadlines, presumably due to a lack of staff – in fact the company advertises on its website the fact that it is “urgently” recruiting animators.

Fans are hoping the missing scenes and incomplete animation will be restored/finished in the DVD version, but even so this hardly augurs well for future Shaft productions…


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Thanks for pointing that out. I was under the impression that they where censors since they left out some vocal lines too (ie. Voice / Line cut due to circumstances) and all the stills happened when Araragi was fighting the snake.

It's pretty sad that they're releasing work when it's not even finished though. I really hope they finish it for the DVD releases.
Sep 13, 2009 6:51 PM

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Nice episode and new OP =] a few too many scenes with just the words there but I guess I should have gotten used to that now xD next episode Tsubasa cat =O hmmm ...
Sep 13, 2009 7:25 PM
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The second part was pretty crappy. Especially the place where they just showed a still image of Araragi while he was sobbing and apologizing. On the whole the episode, it was alright, but I was kind disspointed to see the loads of the fighting scenes were, well, simply not animated. I mean I like their style and all that, but they overused it here to cover up production problems as it seems.
Sep 13, 2009 9:40 PM
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OP is kinda catchy. I still really liked the episode despite the animation because it was intense. Wasn't expecting Araragi to get bitten. Oshino saying he will be leaving the city eventually is a shocker.
Sep 13, 2009 10:02 PM

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Nice, it was short but nice story, lacking of Senjougahara is hurt but not severely destroyed the show, the story was simple and easy to understand at least..

Yet again we can see how Araragi's hobbies with oddity, well now i can see that vampire is the king of oddity, no wonder he always bumped with oddity..

Anyone saw Senougahara in apron? i hope it's a good sign for the next arc, i'm very welcoming Senjougahara to make an appearance after long time..
Sep 13, 2009 10:24 PM

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Was an okay episode. Didn't love it, didn't hate it, bored me a little in some parts but then interested me in others. I wasn't too fond of all the cuts either, they annoyed me.
Sep 13, 2009 10:38 PM

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somehow i feel like the intro is rather misleading but whats to be expected this far into the show
Sep 13, 2009 10:58 PM

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I find that as every episode goes by, the show strays further from the original plot.

Unless I'm mistaken and Senjougahara isn't really a main character.
I originally thought this was going to revolve around the couple and how weird they both are. But it turns out there are a million characters and the protagonist has to have is own little story with every single one of them.

I still find this interesting but I was expecting something a little more ground breaking like the first 3 episodes were.
Sep 13, 2009 11:31 PM

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I luff the new opening. Pwnage. I want it on my ipod D=
Sep 13, 2009 11:50 PM

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I'd first like to point out that I, apart from quite a few others, apparantly, did not think the new OP was all that good. I prefer Staple Stable : 3

Anyway, about the episode itself;
There wasn't only one, there were two! : O
And it's got to be hard fighting something that's invisible O.o

And I realized the greatest difference between Araragi and me, he does things because he wants to help people, I'm the opposite, I do things for others if it can be of any kind of benefit for myself : 3

Oh and btw, the ED is still the best around, can't come up with any other song that beats it at the moment : D
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Sep 13, 2009 11:57 PM
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Can Shaft animate 5 seconds before cutting to a Black screen?
Sep 14, 2009 12:11 AM
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devilish000 said:
I have mixed feelings about this episode, something that I didn't have until now, while watching Bakemonogatari.
i agree. the new OP was really really great; her voice was very cute and pretty.

However, there was not enough good animation compared to most of the previous episodes; too many shots of "Red", "White", "Black", Araragi's eye, "Voice/Line (cut due to circumstances)", etc.
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Sep 14, 2009 12:35 AM

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1. i want more senjougahara
2. but sengoku is ok. LOL

nice episode, and fan service was very good.
too bad there were lots of stills in the second half of the episode... ran out of money?
also... harem kind isn'it? araragi kun has 3 by now -_-'
Sep 14, 2009 1:42 AM

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Nice episode :3

BUT i want more senjougahara T___T

and one part of the animation was little boring,like araragi apologizen with a long delay O3O
Sep 14, 2009 2:49 AM

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Hopefully SHAFT recovers from the dive in their budget thats all too obvious this episode. But other than that, I liked it. The OP was clearly where most of their lack of budget went to ;D.
Sep 14, 2009 4:57 AM

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Quite liked this episode, but it's still not up to the standards of the first few. Really liked the new OP though.
Sep 14, 2009 8:00 AM

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archonflux said:
I find that as every episode goes by, the show strays further from the original plot.

Unless I'm mistaken and Senjougahara isn't really a main character.
I originally thought this was going to revolve around the couple and how weird they both are. But it turns out there are a million characters and the protagonist has to have is own little story with every single one of them.

I still find this interesting but I was expecting something a little more ground breaking like the first 3 episodes were.



I agree! Basically with this comment and many others especially about the lack of Senjougahara! Plus the past openings were coordinated with the the episodes in question. This moetastic opening just didn't fit the episode or the show. I scratched my head, then fast forwarded. I kinda got the impression that snake girl was in love Araragi. What was that about? I must have missed something. Probably because of all the unfinished animation and flash screens that I just didn't have the patients to pause and read. Best anime of this Summer? Maybe if they just stopped after the first seven episodes. Spice and Wolf is better, even though it's tenth episode choked too. I'm gonna hold out some hope for both these series, especially for this one. Best show of the season so far "IMO" is Tokyo Magnitude 8.0, which has a solid story arc, good animation, interesting music, and a good 10th episode.
Sep 14, 2009 8:48 AM
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Probably my least favorite arc so far. It was ok, still worth watching despite the, let's say, interesting twist on the animation issue, but it just didn't compare to the other arcs. I'm really hoping the rest of the show doesn't have as much of an impact as this episode did.
Sep 14, 2009 9:11 AM

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Not a bad episode, but definitely not one of the best either.
Sep 14, 2009 1:09 PM
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One of the worst episodes (imo) for this great anime. Near the end, the animation seemed to be rather poor and the ending was awkward and not finished.
Sep 14, 2009 2:19 PM

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lolz at the "fight" i guess
but not bad
wonder what's the next arc
Sep 14, 2009 2:41 PM

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episode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi.
also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1

Sep 14, 2009 4:25 PM
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mangekyoux said:
episode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi.
also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1


Wasn't that at the beginning of episode 1?

Anyway good episode, this series always impresses me with its ability to handle certain situations and the overall arcs.
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Sep 14, 2009 5:31 PM

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liked the new op, good episode, so far series is awesome, i guess people either hate it or love it.
Sep 14, 2009 6:01 PM

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I am a little disappointed. This seems like it had a lot of potential to be one of my favorite arcs. Though it felt so rushed. I still like it though she the main girl of this arc was a doll. I loved her character design wish they could have given her more personality to make her better. Though oh well.

I find it ironic that she is the character who has a love that she does not to tell about and she was cursed because of love. Not to mention in the end someone else lost someone they loved. It's still sad this arc seems to be trying to give a lot of development to Araragi how he wont be able to save everyone. And knowing he has limitations. So sad it was so rushed. . .
Sep 14, 2009 6:17 PM

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NeloDeath said:
mangekyoux said:
episode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi.
also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1


Wasn't that at the beginning of episode 1?

Anyway good episode, this series always impresses me with its ability to handle certain situations and the overall arcs.


Yeah,the benning of the episode 1 is the teaser of the next one,creative indeed XD
NeloDeath said:
mangekyoux said:
episode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi.
also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1


Wasn't that at the beginning of episode 1?

Anyway good episode, this series always impresses me with its ability to handle certain situations and the overall arcs.


Yeah,the beginning of the first episode is the teaser of the next one,creative indeed XD
Sep 14, 2009 7:34 PM
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The lack of animation in the most important part, the fight scene really pissed me off. They'd better fix it in the DVD version, especially with how many copies of volume one they're selling.
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Weakest episode so far, but still pretty good.
I enjoyed the new opening theme.
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Pretty random and very a la SHAFT with the slide images, and quite dissapointing as well since they just tried to use these ridiculous drama in the middle of an awkward situation with Nadeko. I can even barely say this plot has logical meaning. Very, but very dissapointing since they had a lot of material to work with and now they came up with this moe crap.

The animation somehow became a bit choppy.

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Sep 14, 2009 10:01 PM

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Liked the opening....though I hope a more "complete" version of the episode is on the dvd/blu-ray.
Sep 14, 2009 10:05 PM

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This could have been a much better episode if shaft kept up with the animation. Like what the fuck there were probably only ten moving scenes in the whole episode. I'm disappointed. It deserves more.
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Sep 14, 2009 10:07 PM

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I hated this episode. I'm don't even really care to look through the discussion, I was so bored and disappointed by what I saw. I don't think I can give the series higher than a 7 after this.
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A bad episode, but I think it is due to the fact that SHAFT are working on SZS, Bake, the Negima OVAs and Natsu no Arashi 2 at the same time basically and the budget isn't endless.

But, does anyone else think that the two people (there were two snakes) who performed the curse were the Koyomi sisters?
Sep 15, 2009 12:38 AM

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That's what I thought, but since it seems like this is the end of the arc, I just threw away the idea.
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Haylias said:
A bad episode, but I think it is due to the fact that SHAFT are working on SZS, Bake, the Negima OVAs and Natsu no Arashi 2 at the same time basically and the budget isn't endless.

But, does anyone else think that the two people (there were two snakes) who performed the curse were the Koyomi sisters?


It couldn't have been (both of) them, because one of the people who placed the curse on her (and the one that got it sent back at him due to Koyomi's interference} was a boy. I doubt it was either one of Koyomi's sisters, but I don't remember all the details, so I'll leave that question open for now.
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Sep 15, 2009 7:36 AM
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I only hoped that they would have animated the the fight without that kuro and aka screen all the time.
Sep 15, 2009 7:39 AM

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Haylias said:
A bad episode, but I think it is due to the fact that SHAFT are working on SZS, Bake, the Negima OVAs and Natsu no Arashi 2 at the same time basically and the budget isn't endless.

But, does anyone else think that the two people (there were two snakes) who performed the curse were the Koyomi sisters?


It couldn't have been (both of) them, because one of the people who placed the curse on her (and the one that got it sent back at him due to Koyomi's interference} was a boy. I doubt it was either one of Koyomi's sisters, but I don't remember all the details, so I'll leave that question open for now.

I don't remember the "boy" part, must have misread.
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What?
Haylias said:
AO968 said:
Haylias said:
A bad episode, but I think it is due to the fact that SHAFT are working on SZS, Bake, the Negima OVAs and Natsu no Arashi 2 at the same time basically and the budget isn't endless.

But, does anyone else think that the two people (there were two snakes) who performed the curse were the Koyomi sisters?


It couldn't have been (both of) them, because one of the people who placed the curse on her (and the one that got it sent back at him due to Koyomi's interference} was a boy. I doubt it was either one of Koyomi's sisters, but I don't remember all the details, so I'll leave that question open for now.

I don't remember the "boy" part, must have misread.
There are 2 snakes, 1 had been purify from the ceremony, that snake was from the girl that love the boy who confessed to Nadeko(Confussed? Me too), and the other one is from the boy who was confessed by Nadeko, so both of them sent the snakes to Nadeko, i don't think Koyomi sisters is the one who cursed Nadeko,
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mangekyoux said:
episode 11 and 12 will be tsubasa cat, and the last 3 is not really from the bakemonogatari novel, its from the Kizumonogatari which is named "Koyomi Vamp" featuring both shinobu bfore she lost her personality and araragi.
also i found a cool teaser video of koyomi vamp
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UYXMoBRiM&NR=1
Hey if the last 3 were not from Bakemonogatari, is that means we will never saw Senjougahara again? damn that will be sucks
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OMG i love the new op (nadeko version)
..so kawaii
love her voice. and the soft music when there was flashback was nice
but then....wtf!!!
what happened...snake attack.. nadeko....NADEKO!!
but luckily shes alright

hehe you are so right. that is the best OP i have seen so far.



hehe you are so right. that is the best OP i have seen so far.

but you know....even monsters deserve to live.
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Very nice and cute OP. Hmm, short arc. I didn't really like it, though. A bit boring, perhaps.I don't like the 'I'm under attack but it's not shown!' scene, because it's simply not shown. Just some blood, nothing more.

Laevantein: all four of the 4 female characters appeared in the trailer that mangekyoux posted, but I don't think they'll be main characters.

So, Tsubasa Cat? Is it about Hanekawa?
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