Houseki no Kuni Chapter 64 Discussion

youseiki said:
How envious that you've already read the latest chapter, I still have to wait for the fan translation :\

VarunaBles said:

It's out at mangadex now.

Hannah_Ana said:
Ohmygod! Did the gems break themselves because they thought Sensei would be angry at them because Phos and the others are now on the moon?!

Hannah_Ana said:
I'm thinking Sensei knows that he's a machine

karmashizzle said:

did you skip ch.58 somehow?

Xaelath said:
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I think so,
So basically Sensei arent a gem that naturally came from the sea, i am not sure about ing/ed mentioned seems like a plot machine.
Sensei wants the gem to have their own life either they didnt fight and make peace with the soul or follow phos rebellion.

You could say that it make sense about Soul quote "We capture gems, talk to them , persuade but none of them works just to make Sensei pray for them" doesnt seems like a lie or bluff.
Well technically speaking I think Soul is the most advanced race between the 3.

Anyone got theory about Flesh race yet? they're the only race that remains mystery so far and doesnt have enough screen time, they're not immortal either.
If the story really going to follow 108 chapters, i could assume that something will happen under the sea.
I wonder how does the Flesh city looks like, and why theres no flesh race make appearance in soul city so far despite King said her fellows was captured on moon. Maybe they're already dead?

youseiki said:

It's still a shocking turn that I can't easily believe it happened, not that I hate but it was truly surprising.

at the same time, it's really saddening to see the gems cracking because of Phos betrayal, their loyalty and their bond to each other was so strong that it has become their own weakness, they would truly die if their partner disappears.

The Lunarians are truly op, but I still don't trust them as Phos did, their just basically playing with the gems, if they go all out, they can just conquer the world just like what they did to the Sea People(not that I know them) there's a lot of them in the moon, not sure what happened that their existence above is one of my biggest suspicion on what was the Lunarians tries to accomplish

I'm still doubting their reason of wanting to disappear, and the reason why Sensei refuses to do it and the existence of the Sea Creatures in the moon... I think the only way for them to die is to become a mortal again... the story about Humans was repeated twice, I take it as a relevant clue in the story, Houseki no Kuni is good at hiding clues.

Xaelath said:
why theres no flesh race make appearance in soul city so far despite King said her fellows was captured on moon. Maybe they're already dead?

VarunaBles said:

*Finds leaks and rough translations* Er......why are all these rocks breaking? I can get Rutile, Amethyst 33 and, to a lesser extent Sphene and Peridot, but Red Beryl? Maybe if he actually had a connection with somebody else other than the clothes he makes, that'd make more sense.
This actually bothers me. Antarc and Ghost never had anyone but Phos do this for them. It seems, like most humans, gems don't really care about someone they don't know........except that they all lived together.

ridomotoji said:
I think it's because all broken gems (minus Bortz and Amethyst 33) had known about Phos's plan to go to the moon. If you read chapter 61 again, you could see Phos came to talk with all those gems that night (including Red Beryl). They knew about it, had the chance to stop it but didn't do anything, so now they are full of regret. Bortz and Amethyst 33 indirectly played a large part in making Diamond and Amethyst 84 go to the moon, that's why the manga showed their scenes instead of Zircon or Neptunite, eventhough these gems also have close relationship with Yellow Diamond and Benito.

VarunaBles said:

My problem with Red Beryl, was that all the scenes that featured him prior to this indicate he barely even cares. I read 1 theory about Beryl incorporating symbolic imagery in the winter clothes the gems wear, these "images"(I don't know what to call them), iirc, show what he thinks of them, etc. but that's about it. He does not interact with others unless fashion is involved and, as shown with Antarc and Ghost's death, gems don't care much for people they don't know. It ruined my immersion, basically.

ridomotoji said:
His reaction to Phos's manipulating suggests he did care about some previous gem (just not enough to go to the moon himself). Also, even if Red Beryl didn't personally feel anything toward the gems following Phos, the responsibility and guilt are enough to crush him. Like, if your action somewhat makes your company go bankrupt, you will be depressed even if you don't care for any coworker.

Actually when I think about it, most gems break under pressure of responsibility and guilt. For example, Phos break because of Ghost's loss even though they just knew each other for a short time.

About Antarc and Ghost, I don't think the gems don't care much for people they don't know. They have lived a very long time, there's no way they didn't know other gems. I remember Diamond showed genuine sadness when Sensei announced Antarc's disappearance, even though he was only active during the time other gems slept. Most gems just have to keep smiling, forget the pain and move on, like what happened to Sphene and Peridot.

Xaelath said:
I'm still doubting their reason of wanting to disappear, and the reason why Sensei refuses to do it and the existence of the Sea Creatures in the moon... I think the only way for them to die is to become a mortal again... the story about Humans was repeated twice, I take it as a relevant clue in the story, Houseki no Kuni is good at hiding clues.