Gwendolly said: Same here...Ruu said: my vote was rvs but I haven't found a good candidate yet, that's why I haven't change it. Sorry for being so mia, busy day again ;-; catching up it's a nightmare and I'm still in the dark... I don't know who could be scum. Hopefully this new pages will help me figure that out. Wow I completely forgot about you too xD |
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| okay... I have town reads, they are based on their posts and interactions with the rest of the players and with each other. I'm tired of reading so I will make this quick. Town reads (for now): Astros, RE, Wen. I don't agree with some things that they said but I see a townie mindset behind them. For example, I find Astros' s questions useless (for me) but I don't get the feeling that he is just trying to look busy. Specially after he made a new one. He already got heat for the first one, why would he continue the trend? RE is just acting like town!RE. This is based on meta, I know that RE can tunnel like this when town, that's why I trust her atm. Wen... I don't agree with his read on century and tbh this is my weakest read but I feel like he is doing something that I would do so that gives him town points even if I don't agree with him this time. Lynching Century is a no for me. Going after the newbie is not the best way to start a game. I mean, if you want to lynch him because of what he said pre-game at least do it after talking to him for more than 24 hours. I think that if he can't convince us by the end of D2, he should claim or get lynch. I don't like Scarlet atm, I'm getting strong scum vibes from her. I feel like this is the ww game all over again xD Her reasons for voting and her posts in general sound fake. I'm not happy with Phraze either, I wouldn't be surprise if she was scum this game but for now I will change my vote to my first scum read : change vote: Scarlet I'm still with a huge pile of neutrals because there are too many of you ;-; |
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RE1031 said: cuz maf? don't see why town would do that.Phraze said: Okay, let's go along with this. Why would Astros want to find out who the PRs or the important people are?I said maybe he was trying to find prs with the question, if not prs then maybe those who're more important, since ur asking why he's asking such a question. just me running through ideas. as for taking things the wrong way, I was referring to u and Astros - I felt his questions had a reason, and ran through the possibilities. if it's about me, can I say u can think what u want? |
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9 players, 12 players, 24 players: all the same to me! None of them should be ignored >.< |
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Gwendolly said: Well other things than my current tunneling: -last almost pocketing everybody (dunno what is up with that) -you seem to have many votes this time I wonder why -Abu being suspiciously less vocal this time -Astros seemed to disappear too; maybe he didnt like the attention in the first half of D1 (he somewhere mentioned too that people started to question him, I think since after he has gone quiter) hmm okayy. I would like to know why the votes on me too lol. everyone likes when I post alot... I find u a bit suspicious for questioning the setup, like with lovers and cent's pregame post, but could be in u to question it. not sure what to make of u atm |
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Phraze said: Well, that's what I thought your post was implying, but it seemed to me you did nothing to pursue someone who in your eyes was doing something mafia would do.RE1031 said: cuz maf? don't see why town would do that.Okay, let's go along with this. Why would Astros want to find out who the PRs or the important people are? |
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Ruu said: okayyy. pls elaborate~I don't like Scarlet atm, I'm getting strong scum vibes from her. I feel like this is the ww game all over again xD Her reasons for voting and her posts in general sound fake. I'm not happy with Phraze either, I wouldn't be surprise if she was scum this game but for now I will change my vote to my first scum read : change vote: Scarlet |
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Gwendolly said: 9 players, 12 players, 24 players: all the same to me! None of them should be ignored >.< I can barely remember a few new people, let alone this. T.T @Ruu My vote is still from RVS, I just haven't changed it yet. Concerning the read post: I just felt that I had to post something of value and I have no clue where to start in hunting scum... it was much easier when I had to force reads. It doesn't help that I don't have the advantage of having played with most of these people before. I'll read some people in somewhat isolation and hope that I get a clearer picture tomorrow. |
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RE1031 said: there's more than 1 possibility. waiting for him to answer my post about it.Phraze said: Well, that's what I thought your post was implying, but it seemed to me you did nothing to pursue someone who in your eyes was doing something mafia would do.cuz maf? don't see why town would do that. |
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Ruu said: I've tunneled as scum before. Your point on Astros is really good though.RE is just acting like town!RE. This is based on meta, I know that RE can tunnel like this when town, that's why I trust her atm. Agree about wen, although it's more of a gut feel right now... I think it's because I share similar views to him so far and his posts, especially regarding Phraze reading Soda off of fluff, have been logically sound. |
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Phraze said: If it's about why he asked the question, he gave a couple reasons but is deliberately the big one.RE1031 said: there's more than 1 possibility. waiting for him to answer my post about it.Well, that's what I thought your post was implying, but it seemed to me you did nothing to pursue someone who in your eyes was doing something mafia would do. |
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RE1031 said: hmm.. pls point me to it. lost in all the text.Phraze said: If it's about why he asked the question, he gave a couple reasons but is deliberately the big one.there's more than 1 possibility. waiting for him to answer my post about it. |
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AbuHumaid said: this is what u get when someone complains that posting less is badIdk if I should catch up or just skip pages giving em a taste of how it's like when they come back |
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Phraze said: *facepalm* I meant "deliberately left the big one out"... I need a nap.RE1031 said: hmm.. pls point me to it. lost in all the text.If it's about why he asked the question, he gave a couple reasons but is deliberately the big one. I gave the two posts in #783. |
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Phraze said: Gwendolly said: Well other things than my current tunneling: -last almost pocketing everybody (dunno what is up with that) -you seem to have many votes this time I wonder why -Abu being suspiciously less vocal this time -Astros seemed to disappear too; maybe he didnt like the attention in the first half of D1 (he somewhere mentioned too that people started to question him, I think since after he has gone quiter) hmm okayy. I would like to know why the votes on me too lol. everyone likes when I post alot... I find u a bit suspicious for questioning the setup, like with lovers and cent's pregame post, but could be in u to question it. not sure what to make of u atm I mean I know that you mentioned that you would trim down in this one. BEFORE the roles were assigned, so that's why I am not suspecting you as much as the others. Not that I'll tolerate it but you atleast have done more than others. As for me trying to get at the bottom of this game? I dont know, I'm probably taking it too serious xD will probably get me killed but yolo right? |
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RE1031 said: Phraze said: *facepalm* I meant "deliberately left the big one out"... I need a nap.hmm.. pls point me to it. lost in all the text. I gave the two posts in #783. thanks. looks town-motivated there. and sure, u should nap and catch up later. the excessive posting is hard to keep track of. |
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Gwendolly said: finally someone who notices what I write in signups lol I remember getting freaking D1 lynched as cop over a stupid reason as thatPhraze said: hmm okayy. I would like to know why the votes on me too lol. everyone likes when I post alot... I find u a bit suspicious for questioning the setup, like with lovers and cent's pregame post, but could be in u to question it. not sure what to make of u atm I mean I know that you mentioned that you would trim down in this one. BEFORE the roles were assigned, so that's why I am not suspecting you as much as the others. Not that I'll tolerate it but you atleast have done more than others. As for me trying to get at the bottom of this game? I dont know, I'm probably taking it too serious xD will probably get me killed but yolo right? hmmm good answer from u I sppose. flavorgaming tho. not everyone has seen the anime >.>; |
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| Why is it that no one's replied to lil_logic's post? RE1031 said: Phraze said: I died like two nights earlier. Also, people posting a lot are usually just posting out of eagerness to be involved in the game, not necessarily to prove their alignment. More important than number of posts is content, and this post, like many of your others, remains NAI and can be said in any large game.@Labs @ironace since it's hard to keep up with an average of 24 posts per 24 players a day. I remember bombarding Mostly Seinen with posts until the only ones alive were me/Last/RE/Gruffin. interesting bit: Gruffin was scum. posting more doesn't mean ur town - it's NAI and deters anyone reading/playing. More content isn't always good. I like to re-read the thread a couple of times because I don't remember everything after the first time. I re-read less in larger games, and therefore often miss details in the large chunk of information. lastwhisper31 said: Gwendolly said: true true, but Vigs can solve a lot of things, perhaps they can be mis shots, but if someone is acting naturally scummy a long side who ur voting, then you cant lynch 2 in one day, so you leave the other for a vig shot... I mean if its a one shot... then I'd hold off, but if not, I'd shoot, just like when I shot you in starship mafia lmao... and again another scenario that should inherit a vig shot night 1, is if the vote count ends in a tie, and the lynchee is chosen at random, the other should be shot, if the one lynched flips townThat's something the vig has to decide; if there even is one. Implying that idea would rather come from mafia because they would want it see go to waste and kill two birds with one stone if they know they are town, right? A bit trigger-happy..? Gwendolly said: Well other things than my current tunneling: -last almost pocketing everybody (dunno what is up with that) -you seem to have many votes this time I wonder why -Abu being suspiciously less vocal this time -Astros seemed to disappear too; maybe he didnt like the attention in the first half of D1 (he somewhere mentioned too that people started to question him, I think since after he has gone quiter) Activity isn't alignment-indicative. With all those posts, aren't there other things that caught your attention? And I don't like how you're speculating why Astros and Abu aren't here. suspiciously less vocal. maybe didn't like the attention I still like my vote on you. :> |
AbuHumaid said: town points for that, will explain later.Actually, fuck it I'll slack until phase change and you all calm down for a bit. |
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lil_logic340 said: what constitutes scummy behavior? @Coromandel thanks for pointing this out - I don't think I would have noticed otherwise. To me, scummy behaviour is that of someone not reading in-depth, only asking questions and have odd behaviour relating to already confirmed scum. |
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AbuHumaid said: Actually, fuck it I'll slack until phase change and you all calm down for a bit. I'm gonna find what I can, make a read list and follow this advice. Even I can admit that I've been a bit too forthcoming and shouldn't be trying to read when I don't have anything but others opinions. |
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coromandel said: Well other things than my current tunneling: -last almost pocketing everybody (dunno what is up with that) -you seem to have many votes this time I wonder why -Abu being suspiciously less vocal this time -Astros seemed to disappear too; maybe he didnt like the attention in the first half of D1 (he somewhere mentioned too that people started to question him, I think since after he has gone quiter) coromandel said: Activity isn't alignment-indicative. With all those posts, aren't there other things that caught your attention? And I don't like how you're speculating why Astros and Abu aren't here. suspiciously less vocal. maybe didn't like the attention I still like my vote on you. :> I didnt assume their alignment with that. It was my observation and that is what I have noticed. It is just weird that Abu announced dominating the game but is rather lazy about that rn; I was hoping/expecting more from him. It's definitely a change of tactic. Fine keep your wasteful vote on me :) makes it more interesting actually |
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| lessee... Vote: Rinto-kun don't like the jester talk or lurky attitude. prefer my vote on Soda, but it'll probably go nowhere. lil_logic340 said: I thought that was alrdy answered but no harm answering again. scummy behavior is not having a solid stance on anything.what constitutes scummy behavior? |
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lil_logic340 said: Why are you asking?what constitutes scummy behavior? |
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| Vote change: ironace Gwendolly said: Fine keep your wasteful vote on me :) makes it more interesting actually :P ironace said: lastwhisper31 said: Understandable lol 1. Ok 2. Might have been my bad there also 3. But have none of these people given any signs of towniness? it seems like ur focusing to much on everything thats scummy... almost a little to much... do you have any town leans currently? and u shouldnt need to ask everyone else who to look into.... then what do you suggest we do if we have such a big group of people. I mean just look at the vote count. 3 different people with 3 votes each. I dont believe we can come to a conclusion if we dont have a group of people who others want to focus on. Secondly, i eally dont have any town reads rn. Maybe RE, but i may be getting pocketed as she was agreeing with me quite a bit. Maybe gwen is indeed town. Its just that her playstyle feels similar to how she plays when she is town-trying to find out stuff from the tiniest details.However, she maybe tunneling too hard on century there. ironace said: Some of our conclusions may be wrong, but if we point out who to focus on and give reasons, others will naturally chip in their 2 cents. It will allow others to get to know about their thought while also clearing up any misunderstandings etc. So much "we". Kinda rubs me the wrong way. ->I only highlighted people who are seen as scummy or have taken alot of attention.Phraze and LW for me, century for gwen, astoros for being the main highlight for half of d1. I merely asked for the opinions of others about who should we look more into. You should ask that yourself first and foremost. Your posts come across as opportunistic to me. Some of our conclusions may be wrong, but if we point out who to focus on and give reasons, others will naturally chip in their 2 cents. It will allow others to get to know about their thought while also clearing up any misunderstandings etc. I'm not here to clear up misunderstandings, I just want to find and lynch and kill scum. What are you here for? |
RE1031 said: century100 said: Do you have any plans about explaining what was missing in your PM?I haven't confirmed anyone in particular to be town, but I'll try making a list of who I think is Town, Mafia or unknown later. Atm I'm busy with real life stuff but expect me to make a list when I have the time. If not, okay, but at least say it clearly so that it doesn't seem like you're completely dodging the topic. I'll show my opinions here. Possible Town: idk yet Leaning Town: RE1031, wen294, Ruu, Neutral: ScarletCelestial, Yurkin, Shinichi*, Astros*, Phraze* Leaning Mafia: Sodalicious Possible Mafia: Gwen *I have a feeling I may be wrong, and they could be leaning Mafia. Also, I have no idea where to put these people because idk much about them from their behavior (can't get any readings that easily), they may be inactive, or they haven't been contributing much. Abu, Labs, Logic, Tainted, Togs, Rinto, Ironace, Qoco, Starcrazed, Coromandel, Albertino On another note; I did some looking into the game mechanics and there could be Masons or Monks in this game that are Town but they have their own secret chat. |
RE1031 said: Gwendolly said: Nobody? Really?Besides century I wouldnt have any other lynchmaterial. But I'd be willing to put my votes on the inactives/ fluffy posters to make them come out of their shells: Rinto, yurkin, Abu, lil logic, Kit, REs friend I forgot the name. Yes, I get it we are 24 players atm and it's a mess but that does not mean that doing nothing will go unnoticed. But I think it's even more important for everyone to have an input; this game could turn scum sided really fast. And I feel like there are several more than the people you listed... Ironace, Dias (though I like his vote), Soda (especially this one)... Since we are going nowhere with this, I'll ask too, but only once: @century100 What were you missing? If what you mean missing is what I said in the beginning, then by missing, I meant that I thought I was supposed to receive something or some unique ability based on my role. I figured out what it meant after I posted the message when I reread my role and tried to make sense of it. |
lil_logic340 said: what constitutes scummy behavior? Hey there! Scummy means anti-town, as in mafia or (evil) third party role. Scummy behavior is for example: - people who don't (seem to) care about finding scum The bad guys don't need to find scum in order to win the game, but they need to pretend they do in order to blend in with the town. So trying to find out people's intentions behind their posts helps. "Are they actually trying to find and lynch scum, or are they just pretending so people think they're innocent?" |
Phraze said: im asking because its my second game and im not sure how to play, the only way to learn is to ask questions so im asking them.Gwendolly said: lol gwen. u sure aren't being cooperative.Why are you asking? |
I have peaked in their last game a bit. I think they did pretty well, so I wonder why they would ask that |
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coromandel said: Vote change: ironace Gwendolly said: Fine keep your wasteful vote on me :) makes it more interesting actually :P lol? You for sure were testing me.... |
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| @lil_logic340's 3rd game now I think. Berseria, Ouran, and this one. and can u update the VC waypoint pls @Sleipnirr 1.4 3-way trains. now probs 2-way trains. going nowhere. |
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lil_logic340 said: Phraze said: im asking because its my second game and im not sure how to play, the only way to learn is to ask questions so im asking them.lol gwen. u sure aren't being cooperative. Mafiascum has a couple of articles giving tips on how to play mafia. - Quick Guide to Mafia - Guide to Scumhunting - Interactive Tells - Tips to Scum - ... |
Phraze said: ouran was the only other game i played it was my first one.@lil_logic340's 3rd game now I think. Berseria, Ouran, and this one. and can u update the VC waypoint pls @Sleipnirr 1.4 3-way trains. now probs 2-way trains. going nowhere. |
coromandel said: cant tell if youre trying to help or notlil_logic340 said: im asking because its my second game and im not sure how to play, the only way to learn is to ask questions so im asking them. Mafiascum has a couple of articles giving tips on how to play mafia. - Quick Guide to Mafia - Guide to Scumhunting - Interactive Tells - Tips to Scum - ... |
lil_logic340 said: u helped ur dad in the later half of Berseria, right?Phraze said: ouran was the only other game i played it was my first one.@lil_logic340's 3rd game now I think. Berseria, Ouran, and this one. and can u update the VC waypoint pls @Sleipnirr 1.4 3-way trains. now probs 2-way trains. going nowhere. andddd I've been curious about this confirmation thing: if century is "confirmed" to Astros, why is he voting him? |
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| [quote=Phraze] lil_logic340 said: u helped ur dad in the later half of Berseria, right?Phraze said: ouran was the only other game i played it was my first one.@lil_logic340's 3rd game now I think. Berseria, Ouran, and this one. and can u update the VC waypoint pls @Sleipnirr 1.4 3-way trains. now probs 2-way trains. going nowhere. He told me what to post and i posted it, so no not really |
coromandel said: Don’t you think scum usually try to fake this part? That’s one of the reasons why I don’t think he’s scum. 1) After his so-called slip, he didn’t try to “correct” his mistake immediately, and didn’t seem too stressed because he’d messed up. He just said “oh and ignore that message” – he didn’t seem particularly concerned about it, more like “oh yeah, shouldn’t have said that *shrug*”. This is wifom, but from a mafia newbie slipping up, I’d expect a different reaction. For example, editing out what they said, or getting tongue-tied. Trying to compensate by acting more innocent and trying to blend in better (which he didn’t). 2) If he wanted us to think he’s town afterwards, why did he not participate in a more agreeable matter? He seems to just do as he pleases, says and votes for whoever he wants and without caring about how that comes across. Which doesn’t look like mafia behavior to me. I don’t even think that century is – like Astros said – confirmed town now. He could be of any alignment imo. That’s how I’m going to treat him rn, just like most people who I read as neutral. Sure, we could pressure him about him, make him tell us what exactly he was talking about etc., but I agree with Shinichi that I won’t make a case against someone based on their pre-game post. It just doesn’t seem right. Tbf scum try to fake alot of shit its up to town to discern whats fake and whats truthful. 1.Before I respond to the rest of the part i wanna say one thing hes a new player so I dont think he would understand he even did anything wrong. The fact that he didnt correct it right away applies to the point i just made so i don't think it means much. He could just be carefree like me and not care about his mistakes just rolling with them to see what happens next. Its all like you said thought just alot of wifom, but if it says anything it does say hes town if we are going to base if off those facts. 2.Again I dont think he even knows whats agreeable or not agreeable, i mean if you saw him just going with the flow I think that be scummy so its better heh learns at his own pace.But at the same time, if hes mafia he could have people coaching him which shouldnt be swept under the radar. I am glad you agree with me lol, kinda felt like you would moral wise some people are going to use distasteful gaming to catch peoples alignment.I dont even understand the confirmed bs its like wtf since when does 1 line alone confirm someones alignment? |
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lil_logic340 said: ok. counts as a learning/spectate session I guess.He told me what to post and i posted it, so no not really |
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Shinichi-Kun said: hmm bad vibes? and at least I try to figure what that bs is lolI am glad you agree with me lol, kinda felt like you would moral wise some people are going to use distasteful gaming to catch peoples alignment.I dont even understand the confirmed bs its like wtf since when does 1 line alone confirm someones alignment? ok. break time. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I am glad you agree with me lol, kinda felt like you would moral wise some people are going to use distasteful gaming to catch peoples alignment.I dont even understand the confirmed bs its like wtf since when does 1 line alone confirm someones alignment? What are you so salty about? If you're so keen about "fair" gameplay then why dont you do something about it yourself instead of sitting in the corner like an old granny complaining about everything. |
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RE1031 said: so when I say I think Astros is town for his questions and for almost the exact same reason as Ruu... I'm fishy, but she is not... CoolRuu said: I've tunneled as scum before. Your point on Astros is really good though.RE is just acting like town!RE. This is based on meta, I know that RE can tunnel like this when town, that's why I trust her atm. Agree about wen, although it's more of a gut feel right now... I think it's because I share similar views to him so far and his posts, especially regarding Phraze reading Soda off of fluff, have been logically sound. |
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I think you're Mafia because you appear to be the pointing-fingers kind of person; you accuse someone or a few people while diverting attention away from yourself. Some of them may be Town and that would be normal for another Town because they don't know who the scum is; but suppose you really were Mafia. You could blame a few people that would be a mix of town and Mafia, and if they're suspicious and scum, then you would help divert attention away from yourself. However, you may not do that frequently or may act like you're changing your mind. Other players may be able to do the same too but imo, I see you pointing fingers the most. I think Soda's leaning scum cause I see a lot of people onto him so that could be a maybe. For neutral and leaning town, I haven't really see them doing anything suspicious, but the leaning townies don't sound suspicious at all from their discussion imo and Neutral is more like 'not sure'. |
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