AbuHumaid said: Labs said: I'm currently indecisive between both of them, I'm suspecting both of them equallyOh lol.... I guess there was an easy enough example to look back on, probably my bad habit of not really bothering with the thread much at all after dying etc. That and the rest of the scum, TPR included were fairly easy that game. Not sure if I'll dig throughout that tonight... already 11, but hmmmmm I guess you're not pulling this out of nowhere. Would you bet on them as scum over Conq at this point, koz that's my more likely lean at this stage. Hmmmm feeling Conq over RE, though I think we will get less to link back in terms of interactions and the likes..... not much room to be wrong anymore. Vote: TheConquerer Also while you're actually around if you're still here. Anyone else you're fairly set on for scum at this stage, koz we should be dealing with 3 or 4 within this set-up based on the flips thus far. |
RE1031 said: I wanted to strengthen my reads on TheConq and Labs today but no energy. Before I hit the hay, anyone know how to do a VCA? ho ho i'm learning i'm learning, and i think togs know how to do :D :D can i try?? |
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| let me just get the final votes of day 1, 2 and 3 and i'll tell you what i think :D Edit: i mean, every vote count of day 1, 2 and 3 |
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| ok, from day 1 and from day 2... sorry for the confusion xD |
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Labs said: AbuHumaid said: I'm currently indecisive between both of them, I'm suspecting both of them equally Hmmmm feeling Conq over RE, though I think we will get less to link back in terms of interactions and the likes..... not much room to be wrong anymore. Vote: TheConquerer Also while you're actually around if you're still here. Anyone else you're fairly set on for scum at this stage, koz we should be dealing with 3 or 4 within this set-up based on the flips thus far. Though it's a little crippling to leave them that much room, I'll have to give RE however much time it takes between now and 2mrw night to figure them out a bit better as per their approach to this phase. |
| i was 1/4 way there.... i refreshed the page ;-; i'm going to luch soon... you'll have to wait for the VCA, i'm sorry |
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AbuHumaid said: TheConquerer said: That's biased, as you said mafia are trying to frame players what makes me not being framed right now? You're not only trying to accuse other players of framing even your behavior is scummy while killing the ones who suspect you and say "I'm just being framed" while that's definitely not the caseIs it weird that grrr died after logic said they would kill them? No, because mafia are awful at framing people, or should I say, you are? Because there's no way mafia would know who was miller to frame... They tried to frame me, killed theiller and screwed themselves over. I wouldn't be surprised if you and labs are scum team desperate on trying to lynch to finish of this game. It would be ridiculous not to lynch you with the amount of evidence on you. |
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| Okay, Abu can be scum. But first things first. I don't think I need to reread as many posts as I thought I had to. TheConquerer said: AbuHumaid said: That's biased, as you said mafia are trying to frame players what makes me not being framed right now? You're not only trying to accuse other players of framing even your behavior is scummy while killing the ones who suspect you and say "I'm just being framed" while that's definitely not the case Because there's no way mafia would know who was miller to frame... They tried to frame me, killed theiller and screwed themselves over. I wouldn't be surprised if you and labs are scum team desperate on trying to lynch to finish of this game. It would be ridiculous not to lynch you with the amount of evidence on you. How do you know mafia killed the miller? There were two kills last night. vote: TheConquerer |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Yey im back o/ Ill see what happened shortly... or later today... |
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| @re1031 "how do you know mafia killed the miller? There were two kills last night. vote the conquirer" Just my two cents here, look at the starting quote in the quote tower there, i mean this one abu #1238 "isn't it weird how amai died right after she said we should look into theconq more?" This reply is implying the exact same thing u vote theconq here. Because that is supposing someone to apply plan of a sort. Outright its implying the mafia, had killed amai with some sort of plan. I read that meaning it the said #1238. Or did you skipped that comment re? |
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| so this is EoD1 vote: Amai_yume (5): RE1031, ironace, Labs, Floofs, grrr TheConquerer (5): yurkin, AbuHumaid, Togs, logic340, Amai_yume Togs (2): TheConquerer, AlbertinoDias AbuHumaid (1): reiynii Players not voting: while togs was the first to vote Amai, RE was the one leading the train, which gets her a bit out of VCA because normally, scum do not like to start trains (normally) Iron and labs are in the middle, and Grrr in the end, from day 1 train, these are the mosts suspicious, Grrr we know it isn't, that leaves us with Ironace, Labs the counter train most likely has another scum, they would be someone in the middle Abuhumaid and Togs, but this counter train was created by town (logic and who followed him where: Amai_yume and Togs out of this 2 just togs could be mafia, but togs did say he did not want to lynch Amai... so he's out of suspicion, that would leave us with Abu and yurkin, both of them did not participate in the counter train, they were already there, so that leaves us with Abu then we have, me reiynii and TQ, reiynii is out so, not much to say, i was trying to save amai because i did not thought she was scum and because no one wanted to vote Grrr..., and TQ placed his RVS and never changed it... and never had a good reason, this is fishy... so i take out of here TQ day 1 most likely to be scum with VCA are the ones with (b) (/b) ;) this was right after reiynii revealed: Vote Count 2.15 reiynii (4): Labs, AbuHumaid, logic340, Amai_yume AbuHumaid (4): reiynii, Togs, RE1031, AlbertinoDias yurkin (2): TheConquerer, ironace ironace (1): yurkin logic340 (1): Floofs Players not voting: and this was right after logic counterclaim: D2 Final Vote Count reiynii (6): Labs, AbuHumaid, logic340, Amai_yume, Togs, TheConquerer AbuHumaid (3): reiynii, RE1031, AlbertinoDias yurkin (1): ironace ironace (1): yurkin logic340 (1): Floofs while i did not post the rest of the VC here, ironace activity is fishy, she went to a train after logic and never removed her vote, but yurkin had voted Ironace before (and also never moved her vote) displaced votes also indicate scum, so one of them is scum most likely, and in an important matter as well... Ironace, yurkin then we have me, RE and togs, we pretty much at the same time voted for Abu after the claim, this is important because we were the only ones that believed the claim, this because at least one of us is Scum Dias, RE, Togs but after the counter claim Togs was the only one that moved his vote... we can see this from 2 perspective either togs saw that he was the only one standing out and moved his vote back out of panic, or, me or RE are Scum but thought that panic would attract attention and did not move our votes... or we both thought that reiynii had more to lose then logic since she was the one in the choping block... TQ also moved his vote and trusted logic... but we did not get any reaction from him right after the reiynii claim... this is also fishy, it seams like he was waiting a bit to see what would happen and vote with the most people in order to not get attention TQ so... in my perspective we have: Ironacex2 Labs Abu TQ x2 yurkin Dias RE Togs with my VCA i think that Iron and TQ are scum, alongside Abu so my 3 suspects right now are: Abu, Iron, TQ (even with this i still got my eyes on Togs and Labs, right now, with exclusion processes, i think yurkin is not mafia |
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| @abuhumaid #1228 "what's you opinion about what happened so far? Do you think i'm scum?" If its about d2 eop and all... -so you claim vt -rei said to have checked you and showed up as baddie -logic said to have rb-ed rei From here there are the possibilities: 1. mafia rb-er rb-ing logic + mafia framer targets you n1 2. mafia rb-er rb-ing logic + you being the 2nd unaware miller in the game. 3. Mafia rb-er rb-ing logic + you simply being mafia. 4. logic not being rb at all, rei being rb-ed for real and not receiving a results at all n1. I dont see a 5th possibility to exist hmm So whether i think you are or are not scum id say i was suspecting you along with ofc plenty of other players from some time. To have a better view on the situation, considering the 2 new flips, ill go and reread parts from the game thread, then i may have more appropriate answer to your question. |
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ironace said: Very well. I didn't like yurkin this game anyway(she reminds me of rainbow six) But seriously @reiynii..why did you not careven at all about the top 2 trains last day? Labs finally write stuff but it all seems to be...confusing for me.as in some reads are clear others are quite vague like I dint even get some of his reads. I'm currently on phone so will quote him and ask stuff later. And since 1 is the loneliest number I will have to move my vote. vote: yurkin You repeat the same thing like 4 or 5 times, literally each time someone asked you why you suspect me. Elaborate on the underlined ace. Im pretty sure you cannot since my play had changed quite a lot, but please ace still try to do so ;3 |
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| As im rereading from the point my phone crashed i see post that irks me to answer. I know u are dead logic. logic #910 "if two people can have the same ability it means that counter claim wont work in this setup. So think you are the one who has things incorrect." I think you have misunderstand what im saying there. Cc won't work here - is exactly what i meant there! Dunno how you got it into its exact opposite meaning. :< im angry at you even if you are ded logic. |
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| Omg reading the eod d2 and i get more and more angry at logic. I see an opportunistic re, i see re defending players she is not particulary townreading just for the sake of creating more chaos, i see many things that simply feels "wrong", using the most simple way to describ it. But since i read based on tone as well - yeah in my opinion this is scum re. Am i wrong here... because the weirdness started from the beginning of the game, and continues, is it because she thought logic was scum, honestly im way too curious to find out. |
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logic 340 said: I am not saying this is town ironace I am saying I see more townie makes from him than both Yurkin and reiynii I am saying reiynii/yurkin.are much better lynch options today Lol where exactly you saw it? ~to the dead logic ;3 no need to answer tehe~ |
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TogsyWogsy said: reiynii said: I don't get why though.. if Logic and Abu are a scum team, you flipping town should out both of them. And we're not in lylo so we should be still be free to lynch them afterwards.This is a lie, on god! Please lynch Abu and let's see! They want you to lynch me so that they get a double kill for day 2 and night 2, feel free to literally kill me if I'm lying tomorrow! <3 Found something interesting out there after all~ |
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 Vote Count 3.3  AbuHumaid (3): Togs, AlbertinoDias, TheConquerer TheConquerer (2): Labs, RE1031 RE1031 (1): AbuHumaid Players not voting: ironace, yurkin, Floofs Mod Notes: ~ |
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| @togs... what do you think of my VCA?? (did i do it right?? :D ) we need more people to get here, this lvl of activity is bad.... @ironace @Abuhumaid @Labs @yurkin @floofs @RE1031 @TheConquerer Iron, yurkin, fluffy guy, we really need to know your opinion, we are almost divided between lynches, we need to know everyone opinion so we can figure out what to do next, we can't go on like this... cmn guys... there are 4 town dead... 4 is not all, we need every help we can have... or we are doomed... |
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| I thought I was replaced as I sent pm to Robber.... Abu is really trying hard to save himself..... God this game is a mess.... I don't know anything anymore ahhhhh.... Before I vote, may I ask why labs is being ignored again? |
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| Also..if a mislynch occurs then town looses or do we still have a chance? |
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ironace said: Also..if a mislynch occurs then town looses or do we still have a chance? we still have a chance, what did labs post that i did not see?? |
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AlbertinoDias said: @togs... what do you think of my VCA?? (did i do it right?? :D ) we need more people to get here, this lvl of activity is bad.... @ironace @Abuhumaid @Labs @yurkin @floofs @RE1031 @TheConquerer Iron, yurkin, fluffy guy, we really need to know your opinion, we are almost divided between lynches, we need to know everyone opinion so we can figure out what to do next, we can't go on like this... cmn guys... there are 4 town dead... 4 is not all, we need every help we can have... or we are doomed...  This is how I feel about this game, If Abu isn't scum or at least sk then I will probs just ragequit. |
| I've been here way too long... |
| So I was sure yurkin is scum. But people have been pointing fingers to each other so much and sound so genuine town I'm confused. ALberto is probadly town. Abu sounded town but he came up bad on rei's radar. Honestly is scum had framed him the same night then this mafia is the luckiest one ever.but I don't believe such a lucky situation would occur for scum unless they can read minds... So for now vote:Abu humaid |
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TheConquerer said: AlbertinoDias said: @togs... what do you think of my VCA?? (did i do it right?? :D ) we need more people to get here, this lvl of activity is bad.... @ironace @Abuhumaid @Labs @yurkin @floofs @RE1031 @TheConquerer Iron, yurkin, fluffy guy, we really need to know your opinion, we are almost divided between lynches, we need to know everyone opinion so we can figure out what to do next, we can't go on like this... cmn guys... there are 4 town dead... 4 is not all, we need every help we can have... or we are doomed... This is how I feel about this game, If Abu isn't scum or at least sk then I will probs just ragequit. why are you saying if Abu is not scum?? Abu is Scum, please don't rage quit on us :( |
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AlbertinoDias said: ironace said: Also..if a mislynch occurs then town looses or do we still have a chance? we still have a chance, what did labs post that i did not see?? No not as in posting... His level of activity is annoying. And he sheep's most votes.but he is once again not the center of attention >_< |
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ironace said: No not as in posting... His level of activity is annoying. And he sheep's most votes.but he is once again not the center of attention >_< I can say that I'm being hypocritical but I'm really sorry guys...rl is sone busy |
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ironace said: No not as in posting... His level of activity is annoying. And he sheep's most votes.but he is once again not the center of attention >_< did you see EoD2?? xD how can we talk about him now?? xD we still have almost14H to figure things out, but to do that we need everyone to come together and work as a team Iron, re/read night2 and what we have day 3, tell us what do you think about Abu and about TQ?? they are the main focus of this day |
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ironace said: ironace said: No not as in posting... His level of activity is annoying. And he sheep's most votes.but he is once again not the center of attention >_< I can say that I'm being hypocritical but I'm really sorry guys...rl is sone busy 1 good post is better than 50 bad ones, just focus for some time, and you can do it :) |
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yurkin said: @re1031 "how do you know mafia killed the miller? There were two kills last night. vote the conquirer" Just my two cents here, look at the starting quote in the quote tower there, i mean this one abu #1238 "isn't it weird how amai died right after she said we should look into theconq more?" This reply is implying the exact same thing u vote theconq here. Because that is supposing someone to apply plan of a sort. Outright its implying the mafia, had killed amai with some sort of plan. I read that meaning it the said #1238. Or did you skipped that comment re? Before you continue, do you think there is an SK in this game? I do. I don't think a vig would shoot either amai or logic - if the vig were to even shoot, it'd be at Abu. If you didn't notice, I'm also scumreading Abu. Mainly due to mechanics, but his vote on me is pretty much because "inactivity," which nearly everyone in this game was guilty of at some point. Plus his posts early this game were pretty spotty. But, my purpose in pointing out that post is TheConquerer was the first person to mention that mafia killed amai, in attempt to defend himself by claiming mafia is trying to frame him. I think this was a slip - only someone who performed one of the night kills last night would know who killed who. And I don't understand your case on me. I am not trying to create chaos at all. I tried to understand logic's reasoning for scumreading reiynii, and that just made him scum read me more. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
yurkin said: TogsyWogsy said: I don't get why though.. if Logic and Abu are a scum team, you flipping town should out both of them. And we're not in lylo so we should be still be free to lynch them afterwards. <3 Found something interesting out there after all~ Can you explain please? Because not explaining is what leads to chaos :/ |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE1031 said: Plus his posts early this game were pretty spotty. But, my purpose in pointing out that post is TheConquerer was the first person to mention that mafia killed amai, in attempt to defend himself by claiming mafia is trying to frame him. I think this was a slip - only someone who performed one of the night kills last night would know who killed who. Did I not also say mafia killed logic? If I didn't I usually use mafia and scum interchangeably though I know they aren't interchangeable. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: But in that post Togs isn't suspecting Abu, he actually thinks he might be town. Personally I think Abu could be feigning the knowledge to subtlety imply he is the unaware miller but since the unaware miller is dead Abu realizes he has lost. I think abu is sk rather than mafia though but thats just a guess. TheConquerer said: AbuHumaid said: Isn't it weird how Amai died right after she said we should look into TheConq more? Is it weird that grrr died after logic said they would kill them? No, because mafia are awful at framing people, or should I say, you are? @TheConquerer First, I couldn't find that post where you said mafia killed logic. Also, these two posts of yours are consecutive but they suggest two different things. The first you claim to think Abu is SK, but then you accuse him of being mafia? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| @yurkin Also, last game was an exception when it comes to me being emotional. I felt a lot of pressure being one of three PRs, and the only one who hadn't been outed yet. It took a lot of willpower not to claim despite being very close to being lynched and being suspected by like 5 people. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| I have replied to ironace, and if he says he wants to be replaced, then I will try to find a replacement for him. Good night everyone ^^ |
| Vote Count 3.4 AbuHumaid (4): Togs, AlbertinoDias, TheConquerer, ironace TheConquerer (2): Labs, RE1031 RE1031 (1): AbuHumaid Players not voting: yurkin, Floofs Mod Notes: ~ |
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RE1031 said: TheConquerer said: But in that post Togs isn't suspecting Abu, he actually thinks he might be town. Personally I think Abu could be feigning the knowledge to subtlety imply he is the unaware miller but since the unaware miller is dead Abu realizes he has lost. I think abu is sk rather than mafia though but thats just a guess. TheConquerer said: Is it weird that grrr died after logic said they would kill them? No, because mafia are awful at framing people, or should I say, you are? @TheConquerer First, I couldn't find that post where you said mafia killed logic. Also, these two posts of yours are consecutive but they suggest two different things. The first you claim to think Abu is SK, but then you accuse him of being mafia? I didn't claim I had made that post I was wondering if I had. Abu was found guilty by reiyii but it was never said if that meant mafia or sk. So I'm left to make conclusions that he's one or the other, which he is will be revealed upon his death. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: RE1031 said: @TheConquerer First, I couldn't find that post where you said mafia killed logic. Also, these two posts of yours are consecutive but they suggest two different things. The first you claim to think Abu is SK, but then you accuse him of being mafia? I didn't claim I had made that post I was wondering if I had. Abu was found guilty by reiyii but it was never said if that meant mafia or sk. So I'm left to make conclusions that he's one or the other, which he is will be revealed upon his death. so if he is SK you're still ok in lynching him?? wouldn't you prefer to lynch someone more "scumy"?? and even if he flips scum, who do you think that are his accomplice?? (even though he will flip scum -...- can't understand why people aren't voting him... but we need to keep the game moving or we lose... ) |
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| I am good with either an Abu or TheConquerer lynch. But if TheConq's slip wasn't enough to convince the rest of town, I'll work on my case throughout night 1. And while Amai's kill may have had like no significance, she may have been onto something with TheConq... Really wishing I had asked earlier for those posts. @AlbertinoDias Thanks for the VCA, although that wasn't the kind I had in mind exactly TTwTT There's a formula that's somewhat accurate in catching scum based on previous trains. |
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| Ummm.....I think we are starting to look too much into possibilities at this point. Especially with night kills. We can only work with what information we have, since we, as town, are the uniformed minority. Also, I don't think town PR's would lie about their night actions. What we know, logic roleblocks rei. Rei claims they cop checked abu and they came back scum. Only probable reasons could be logic was roleblocked and abu is scum, or logic was role blocked and abu was framed or logic was roleblocked and abu is unaware miller. If we are going to sort about abu today lets work with the probable and not the possible. Fighting over possibilities with limited information is what scum would want us to do. Heck, we don't know why there was only one night kill N1. Could be only maf and killed grrr, or maf roleblocked sk and killed grrr, or maf shot sk who chose 1 shot bullet proof instead of investigation immunity and sk killed grrr, or maf or sk decided to not make a kill at all. N2 maf could have killed logic and SK killed amai, or SK killed logic and maf killed amai, or maf killed logic and vig killed amai, or maf killed amai and vig killed logic. I may have missed some but I hope you get my point. Too many possibilities not enough info so lets stick to what we know. EDIT: added scenario |
FloofsAug 29, 2017 11:58 PM
| @re1031 #1286 "before you continue, do you think there is an SK in this game? I do." Well pretty fun you ask me ;3 aah idk is the right answer here. yep. "I don't think a vig would* shoot either amai or logic - if the vig were to ever shoot, i'd be at Abu." If i was the vig id shoot togs for all i care! o/ but maybe the vig was moody and pissed off and stuff happened but idk really :'< lmao Joke aside, quite sure i remember you yourself mentioning after the amai/logic flip how you thought abu and logic were a scum team together. Now you turn around in a direction that look strange from this standpoint. Aka oh logic was suspicious but oh noes only sk would to ever kill him~ sort of thing. "it'd be at abu." With the descrepancy of the mechanical side of the question, that still remains unclear to this point, that is questionable. edit: add * |
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