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Apr 23, 2017 9:17 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
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Just cast confuse on a shadow with high luck. Thry'll drop ya 100k each turn which is ridiculous.
What the fuck I heard it was high but that's ridiculous.
It's why some people are able to get fucking pixie to lvl 99. Money becomes trivial once you abuse confuse, and it's an amazing feeling.
Apr 23, 2017 11:12 AM
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I grinded all the way to Lvl 95 since I wanted to fuse all the Personas. I had the Strength arcana at max, but I didn't feel like paying extra to fuse higher-level Personas, since I need a great amount of money to fill up my Compendium. I was at 58% before I started the last dungeon and now I'm at 98% (only missing Vishnu and Satanael since the Fool Arcana is still Rank 9 for me). It cost me ¥3 million to fill out the rest of my Compendium, so paying extra to fuse higher-level Persona would've cost me a lot.
Apr 23, 2017 11:59 AM

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GoldenDevilGamer said:
I grinded all the way to Lvl 95 since I wanted to fuse all the Personas.
I grinded about 20 levels at the end, and I felt like it was going to take too long to get to 95, not that you can fuse Satanael on the first playthrough anyways. I was using Daisoujou to insta-wipe enemies in the very last area of the game. Nidhogg wouldn't die to it but he usually begged for his life so I'd exploit him for yen.
Apr 23, 2017 1:17 PM

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I ended up using Bugs for most of the game after I got him. Auto-Mataru too good.
Apr 23, 2017 6:32 PM

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I finally finished Persona 5 after over 110 hours, and it was worth it.

Superb game, will play it again on my new game plus.
Apr 23, 2017 6:54 PM
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Finally finished Persona 5 and it took my total playtime was 116:44. I was able to do basically everything in my first playthrough (maxed out all Confidants, did all Mementos requests, read all books, watched all DVDs, played all video games, filled the Compendium to 99% (only missing Lucifer), and even caught the damn guardian fish, lol). Despite people complaining about Morgana forcing the player to go to sleep on every day where a story-even happens, there’s still more than enough time to do everything in the game. I had a couple of days left near the end of the game where I had nothing left to do, so all I did was train at the gym. There’s a lot of reasons why there’s more than enough time to do everything. The first one being that there’s an equal amount of day and night Confidants, so you’ll never have time periods where you have nothing good to do. Plus Fortune Rank 7 allows you to add points to a Confidant for 5000 yen without wasting time. It really, really helped me near the end of the game. Plus Temperance Rank 10 allowed me to do something on evenings even if I went to a palace on that day.

As for the game itself, I absolutely loved it. My favorite game of all time used to be P4, but P5 took that spot for me and it ended up being my favorite SMT game. Besides its ending, P5 basically overshadows P3 and P4 in every category (for me at least). I’m not sure if I like P5’s story more than the story for both the P2 games.

Persona 5’s greatest improvements were to the gameplay mechanics. Battles feel much more faster paced due to faster menus and every tactic being mapped to a specific button rather than scrolling down a list. Also, little additions like Shadow negotiations and the gun mechanic are really cool. But improvements were made to the social aspect of the game to. You can save anywhere when not in a palace and it’s way more efficient now. And ranking up Confidants adds a lot of extra perks besides just EXP boosts for its Arcana. My personal favorite Confidant Perks were: Fortune letting me boost up Confidant relationships without wasting time, Temperance letting giving me back my evenings, Star letting me swap my party member in battle, and Moon letting my backup members getting full EXP.

At first I wasn’t sure if I liked the characters more than the P4 ones, but by the end of the game, I really prefer the P5 characters more. Yusuke was my personal favorite because he’s funny as hell. All the jokes related to his hunger issue made me laugh my ass off. Some of my favorite lines were in Mementos. I remember Yusuke saying something like “I started donating blood. It’s my new hobby” and Makoto replying back “You’re just donating blood because they give you free juice boxes”. Another time, Makoto said “Sweets taste better when you’re hungry” and Yusuke replying back “Everything tastes better when you’re hungry”. Lol, of course he would know. Also, Ryuji was a bro, but everyone treats him like shit. That one moment where…
Ann was good, but wasn’t as great as I was hoping it to be. She shined best during the Kamoshida arc and they kinda died down after that. But her Confidant story was good. Makoto was pretty good. At first I kinda hated her “leader-like” qualities, but she grew on me later. But I spent all of my dates with her anyways. Futaba was great though, and Yuuki Aoi did a great job in making her sound awkward. Haru got introduced a bit too late for me to like her, and it’s a shame since her Confidant story is one of the best. But she’s real nice though. Morgana had his ups and downs (and the whole jealousy part was poorly written), but by the end, he became truly lovable and out of all the characters, he became the most memorable. Also, the non-party member Confidants characters are way better than the S-Link characters in P3 and P4. And lastly, Joker is way more interesting than P3 and P4’s protagonists, mainly because he has more expressions to him, he talks a bit, and his smug-ass personality added a lot more to him. And for best girl... idk, I dated all of 'em, and I got what I deserved on Valentine's Day. But I laughed my ass off when I got 9 messages right before Christmas and Valentine's Day, asking to spend time with them. I feel like an asshole...

As for the story, made it really special was the themes it focused on. Its main theme was about corruption in society and unbalance in power, but I loved how each palace focused on a certain issue in society.
The story itself was more interesting, due to better pacing. Story events were evenly spread across the entire game, which helped a lot. Also, starting the game from the middle of the story, and seeing everything else as flashbacks made things more interesting. Some plot-twists were predictable and some were not.
The ending was a bit generic, but most Persona endings tend to be on the generic side (gotta save the world… again). But the conclusion itself was satisfying. It wasn’t as emotional as P3, but it had a happy feeling to it.

And this game is so damn stylish. If you started the Tower Confidant, you get to learn Down Shot (use many bullets to knock an opponent down), which is the coolest move Joker will ever do in battle, lol. Talking about cool animations, the cut-ins, the critical hits, the follow up attacks, the backup attacks, the all-out finishers and the character portraits, are all fucking amazing. And the battle UI and the UI during normal gameplay is super cool. The only thing I didn’t like is that the borders start changing colors if your alert meter goes up, but it’s nothing too distracting. Even the loading screens were stylish, lol.

Oh, and the OST in the game is my personal favorite. All of the songs sung by Lyn were amazing, but there a lot of great music outside of the dungeon, like “Tokyo Emergency”, “Phantom”, ‘Layer Cake”, “Tokyo Daylight”, and “Beneath the Mask”. All of the palace music were great except the fifth palace. It wasn’t bad per say, but it got really repetitive after a while. The final boss OST, “Jaldabaoth”, was really good, but not as memorable as the final boss themes in the previous games (like “The Battle for Everyone's Souls” in P3 or “The Fog” in P4). Only time will tell how memorable “Jaldabaoth” OST ends up being. But it does sound very SMT-y though. Even the final boss too.

...This post ended up being way longer than I wanted it to be...
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this game is too good..
Got 46 hours in it since launch

Apr 23, 2017 7:27 PM

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GoldenDevilGamer said:
Also, Ryuji was a bro
I REALLY have to disagree with this. Bropei, Brosuke, and Asubro, they are all clearly bros. I felt literally zero bro-ness from Ryuji.
Apr 23, 2017 7:31 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Also, Ryuji was a bro
I REALLY have to disagree with this. Bropei, Brosuke, and Asubro, they are all clearly bros. I felt literally zero bro-ness from Ryuji.

Junpei is the only true bro.
Apr 23, 2017 7:39 PM

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Also people are saying they thought the ending was bland. I disagree with that too, I thought the ending was fantastic.

What I didn't like was the setup to the start of the game.
Apr 23, 2017 8:16 PM
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Thrashinuva said:
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Also, Ryuji was a bro
I REALLY have to disagree with this. Bropei, Brosuke, and Asubro, they are all clearly bros. I felt literally zero bro-ness from Ryuji.
Ryuji is hot-headed, talkative and an idiot, but he's also the most passionate of the group. Plus, spending time with him on Sundays when he calls or when he comes over at Leblanc during the summer, was really fun. Plus, spending time with him during the Hawaii trip was worth it. He really appreciates Joker abilities and truly looks up to him... as supposed to Junpei, where he's a dickhead to the MC for 60% of the game. Most of P3, all Junpei ever does is show his jealousy towards the MC and how he's the leader and not him. Best friend aside, he didn't even feel like a real friend. Operation Babe Hunt and his moments with Chidori redeemed him a bit though. Yosuke is still my favorite bro I guess.
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GoldenDevilGamer said:
Thrashinuva said:
I REALLY have to disagree with this. Bropei, Brosuke, and Asubro, they are all clearly bros. I felt literally zero bro-ness from Ryuji.
Ryuji is hot-headed, talkative and an idiot, but he's also the most passionate of the group. Plus, spending time with him on Sundays when he calls or when he comes over at Leblanc during the summer, was really fun. Plus, spending time with him during the Hawaii trip was worth it. He really appreciates Joker abilities and truly looks up to him... as supposed to Junpei, where he's a dickhead to the MC for 60% of the game. Most of P3, all Junpei ever does is show his jealousy towards the MC and how he's the leader and not him. Best friend aside, he didn't even feel like a real friend. Operation Babe Hunt and his moments with Chidori redeemed him a bit though. Yosuke is still my favorite bro I guess.
Junpei grew up. Ryuji...
Not saying he was a bad character, but he definitely wasn't a bro. If there was one bro in the entire game, it would have been the Magician, just like it's been since P3, Morgana, or perhaps Brogana.
Apr 23, 2017 8:53 PM
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Thrashinuva said:
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Ryuji is hot-headed, talkative and an idiot, but he's also the most passionate of the group. Plus, spending time with him on Sundays when he calls or when he comes over at Leblanc during the summer, was really fun. Plus, spending time with him during the Hawaii trip was worth it. He really appreciates Joker abilities and truly looks up to him... as supposed to Junpei, where he's a dickhead to the MC for 60% of the game. Most of P3, all Junpei ever does is show his jealousy towards the MC and how he's the leader and not him. Best friend aside, he didn't even feel like a real friend. Operation Babe Hunt and his moments with Chidori redeemed him a bit though. Yosuke is still my favorite bro I guess.
Junpei grew up. Ryuji...
Not saying he was a bad character, but he definitely wasn't a bro. If there was one bro in the entire game, it would have been the Magician, just like it's been since P3, Morgana, or perhaps Brogana.
Yeah, Junpei did grow (and it's more apparent in The Answer), but I feel like he grew up a bit too late. And about Ryuji...
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I think Ryuji's a bro, he's just incredibly retarded.
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Major123 said:
Hmm I didn't really fastforward it, I played on normal so I didn't have to grind too much so that probably cut a lot of time.

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GoldenDevilGamer said:
Finally finished Persona 5 and it took my total playtime was 116:44. I was able to do basically everything in my first playthrough (maxed out all Confidants, did all Mementos requests, read all books, watched all DVDs, played all video games, filled the Compendium to 99%

I believe you, you must be the most efficient guy on Earth (or a master on safescumming)....
(only missing Lucifer), and even caught the damn guardian fish, lol).

... Now I don't. Only Lucifer? If I remember you also must be missing Satanael, he is exclusive NG+.

Reading all your post I must higlight some points:
- Dude, no story can beat P3 is just that good.
- The Confidants are a great upgrade form social link, overall they are indeed better than the ones from other games. But I am still waiting for that story that can up P3 Sun Arcana. I expected a Shiho SL that could top that.
- YOU ARE RIGHT MY BOY!!! Yusuke is the superior Phantom Thief. I freaking love that guy, he is serious, cool and hilarious.


I like P5 waaaay better than P3, but it can't top the masterful story of P3 or the close party interaction of P4.


Apr 24, 2017 12:08 AM

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I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.


Apr 24, 2017 12:25 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.

It's about the themes. Memento mori. No plot is going to look good if you're only looking at it on a surface level.
Apr 24, 2017 1:03 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.

When I read Makoto I started thinking on the P5 waifu, not in the P3 Messiah. I use the Minato name. Is waaay better for me.

The plot is so well tied all along and the Social Links are all about the Memento Mori. Also all the protagonist had issues with death to deal in the game:
Yukari with his dad, Akihiro with his sister, Ken with his mother, Koromaru with his owner, Minato with his parents; Mitsuru, Aegis, Shinjiro and Junpei
only Fuuka was spared.

Then you go to the Social Link's list and the shit goes even further even suggesting some other kinds of "death" (it would be more precise call that ends): first love (the magician), a son (the hierophant), a parents marriage (hanged man), himself (the sun), an online friendship (the hermit), and lots and lots of different storylines that were built to convey a message: Memento Mori.

Remember that the SL is a system that was designed to work only for P3 to enfatizase the importance of time management and relationships in our lives. But it was so succesful that they decided to keep it for the franchise.

PS.- Were do you get all the GET SMOKED profile pictures? I want a couple of them for Haru and Chihaya my couple of underrated waifus.
SilverDioApr 24, 2017 1:19 AM
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SilverDio said:
KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.

When I read Makoto I started thinking on the P5 waifu, not in the P3 Messiah. I use the Minato name. Is waaay better for me.

The plot is so well tied all along and the Social Links are all about the Memento Mori. Also all the protagonist had issues with death to deal in the game:
Yukari with his dad, Akihiro with his sister, Ken with his mother, Koromaru with his owner, Minato with his parents; Mitsuru, Aegis, Shinjiro and Junpei
only Fuuka was spared.

Then you go to the Social Link's list and the shit goes even further even suggesting some other kinds of "death" (it would be more precise call that ends): first love (the magician), a son (the hierophant), a parents marriage (hanged man), himself (the sun), an online friendship (the hermit), and lots and lots of different storylines that were built to convey a message: Memento Mori.

Remember that the SL is a system that was designed to work only for P3 to enfatizase the importance of time management and relationships in our lives. But it was so succesful that they decided to keep it for the franchise.

PS.- Were do you get all the GET SMOKED profile pictures? I want a couple of them for Haru and Chihaya my couple of underrated waifus.


I have a whole folder of GET SMOKED.

Can't find one of Chihaya though, and I imagine we'll never get one since the giant headband she wears messes with the hat.
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KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.


I like that it didn't have a saccharine ending like 4 and 5.
Apr 24, 2017 2:09 AM

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Can't find one of Chihaya though, and I imagine we'll never get one since the giant headband she wears messes with the hat.

5000 hours in ms paint
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:

I have a whole folder of GET SMOKED.

Can't find one of Chihaya though, and I imagine we'll never get one since the giant headband she wears messes with the hat.


You are my hero. It's funny a baseball hat can't hide his forehead only THAT HAT can hide it.

Chihaya should sell those headbands, I would totally use one just for her.

PS.- THANK YOU NARMYYY!!!!
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SilverDio said:
KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.




Yeah, I remember like almost everyone has to deal with people dying. I guess the theme just doesn't interest me. Depressing much. Wasn't fan of the cast either(I am pretty sure I dislike almost all of them). I enjoy later series a lot more.

Narmy said:
KaiserNazrin said:
I can't help but wonder what make people think P3's story is so good. I mean I beat the game and watched the movie but it just doesn't seems all that special to me.

Makoto appears
Makoto beat bunch of shadows and meet new people
Major Shadows defeated and Nyx appears
Makoto seals Nyx.
Makoto ded.


I like that it didn't have a saccharine ending like 4 and 5.


Considering how much shit, P5 MC went through, I think he deserved that.

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Can't find one of Chihaya though, and I imagine we'll never get one since the giant headband she wears messes with the hat.

5000 hours in ms paint
That headband though
Apr 24, 2017 4:05 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
Yeah, I remember like almost everyone has to deal with people dying. I guess the theme just doesn't interest me. Depressing much. Wasn't fan of the cast either(I am pretty sure I dislike almost all of them). I enjoy later series a lot more.

Well, the game launched in 2006. In that times the emo stuff was in his peak, it was a game made to hit right in the spot.

Just like in 2008 the identity stuff were all over the place and now with P5 and all the drama with the media and social networks.

You have helped not once but twice but I shall ask for your help once more: Do you have a picture of the Velvet Family?
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So far, more grinding for me. It's fun in it's own way.
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SilverDio said:
Major123 said:
Hmm I didn't really fastforward it, I played on normal so I didn't have to grind too much so that probably cut a lot of time.

Yeah right and Igor nose is normal.
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Finally finished Persona 5 and it took my total playtime was 116:44. I was able to do basically everything in my first playthrough (maxed out all Confidants, did all Mementos requests, read all books, watched all DVDs, played all video games, filled the Compendium to 99%

I believe you, you must be the most efficient guy on Earth (or a master on safescumming)....
(only missing Lucifer), and even caught the damn guardian fish, lol).

... Now I don't. Only Lucifer? If I remember you also must be missing Satanael, he is exclusive NG+.

Reading all your post I must higlight some points:
- Dude, no story can beat P3 is just that good.
- The Confidants are a great upgrade form social link, overall they are indeed better than the ones from other games. But I am still waiting for that story that can up P3 Sun Arcana. I expected a Shiho SL that could top that.
- YOU ARE RIGHT MY BOY!!! Yusuke is the superior Phantom Thief. I freaking love that guy, he is serious, cool and hilarious.


I like P5 waaaay better than P3, but it can't top the masterful story of P3 or the close party interaction of P4.


Well for one I thought the story of P5 is the best out of the 3 of them. It makes the most sense and the pacing holds up throughout the whole game. P4 does have more party interactions but P5 excelled at individual development and I thought that P5's group had a stronger bond because of the problems they overcame together. The severity of the problems were much greater than the ones in P4.
If I had to rank the games it would be like this
P5>P4>P3

P3 has a better story then P4 but the social links and the dungeons(Well just Tartarus) aren't as strong as the other two.

Edit: The romance aspect was handled much better as well. Having a nice conclusion for your respective partner near the end too really made it feel worth it. There isn't a single bad girl in this game so anyone you pick works out well.
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I don't like how the party members in this game don't feel like a group of friends.

It makes it difficult to care about them as a group.

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Major123 said:

Well for one I thought the story of P5 is the best out of the 3 of them. It makes the most sense and the pacing holds up throughout the whole game. P4 does have more party interactions but P5 excelled at individual development and I thought that P5's group had a stronger bond because of the problems they overcame together. The severity of the problems were much greater than the ones in P4.
If I had to rank the games it would be like this
P5>P4>P3

P3 has a better story then P4 but the social links and the dungeons(Well just Tartarus) aren't as strong as the other two.

Edit: The romance aspect was handled much better as well. Having a nice conclusion for your respective partner near the end too really made it feel worth it. There isn't a single bad girl in this game so anyone you pick works out well.


I were thinking the same at mid-game the first 4 Palaces had a strong story (the 3rd was a little weak but still ok) then the 5th Palace was the bummer,not for the Palace itself but for the PTH approach to it.
And even worse is that moment when the bad guys got to monologue his evil plans just for the lulz...for God's sake that part was straight out of a Scooby Doo movie (and that's P4 domain).

Still what P3 does so freaking well is that it sells you uncertainity, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT UNTIL IS ALMOST TOO LATE. You awaken a new power and you are special, they tell you to climb a tower almost every night without knowing when it will end, you start being visited by a strange boy, then you start fighting super strongs enemies without almost no warning, then...


If P3 did something amazing was how well thought was his story I didn't see any of the twists coming and they were all pretty good... and the ending... oh THE ENDING DAMMMIT... My favorite ending in any game and almost all media (only Stone Ocean and SBR can compare to this).

In Persona 5 are 2 pretty good twists... and that's it. What I agree with you is that the P5 romance is far superior, still I think that it doesn't live up to the P4 romances. And character development although more easy to understand in P3 (They almost go from 20 to 100 in a couple of days at the end) still think it was better of what we got in P5 (amazing for the awaken of the Persona and pretty litlle trough the story except for Morgana, sad thing the Confidant doesn't tie into the story for example reducing Ryuji stupidity or his mean demeanor to Morgana or Makoto being more lax with the Thieves).
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SilverDio said:
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Finally finished Persona 5 and it took my total playtime was 116:44. I was able to do basically everything in my first playthrough (maxed out all Confidants, did all Mementos requests, read all books, watched all DVDs, played all video games, filled the Compendium to 99%

I believe you, you must be the most efficient guy on Earth (or a master on safescumming)....
Not really, it's very easy to do everything in a playthrough as long as you're doing something useful everyday. That being said, I failed to do all of the S-Links in P3 on my first playthrough :/
(only missing Lucifer), and even caught the damn guardian fish, lol).

... Now I don't. Only Lucifer? If I remember you also must be missing Satanael, he is exclusive NG+.
Whoops, I meant to say that I'm missing Satanael, not Lucifer *facepalm*
- Dude, no story can beat P3 is just that good.
P3's story was amazing, no doubt about that. But the pacing of the game really hindered it. The first half doesn't have much going on, and it wasn't until the second half the story started picking up. I do get the fact that it was done purposely like this so the sense of suddenness adds tension, but I still find the first half of the game to be lacking. Also, the way some party members get introduced feels underwhelming. Like, how Akihiko randomly found Junpei during the Dark Hour (who is coincidentally the same guy the P3 MC meets in school).

- The Confidants are a great upgrade form social link, overall they are indeed better than the ones from other games. But I am still waiting for that story that can up P3 Sun Arcana. I expected a Shiho SL that could top that.
Ugh, the feels... You just reminded me of Akinari, and now I feel emotional. But yeah, his story was great and is still my personal favorite S-Link story.
- YOU ARE RIGHT MY BOY!!! Yusuke is the superior Phantom Thief. I freaking love that guy, he is serious, cool and hilarious.
Lol, what's even funnier is that the dude spends his money on useless stuff, and then starves because he doesn't have food. He buy lobsters and he won't eat them, lol.
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SilverDio said:
Major123 said:

Well for one I thought the story of P5 is the best out of the 3 of them. It makes the most sense and the pacing holds up throughout the whole game. P4 does have more party interactions but P5 excelled at individual development and I thought that P5's group had a stronger bond because of the problems they overcame together. The severity of the problems were much greater than the ones in P4.
If I had to rank the games it would be like this
P5>P4>P3

P3 has a better story then P4 but the social links and the dungeons(Well just Tartarus) aren't as strong as the other two.

Edit: The romance aspect was handled much better as well. Having a nice conclusion for your respective partner near the end too really made it feel worth it. There isn't a single bad girl in this game so anyone you pick works out well.


I were thinking the same at mid-game the first 4 Palaces had a strong story (the 3rd was a little weak but still ok) then the 5th Palace was the bummer,not for the Palace itself but for the PTH approach to it.
And even worse is that moment when the bad guys got to monologue his evil plans just for the lulz...for God's sake that part was straight out of a Scooby Doo movie (and that's P4 domain).

Still what P3 does so freaking well is that it sells you uncertainity, YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT UNTIL IS ALMOST TOO LATE. You awaken a new power and you are special, they tell you to climb a tower almost every night without knowing when it will end, you start being visited by a strange boy, then you start fighting super strongs enemies without almost no warning, then...


If P3 did something amazing was how well thought was his story I didn't see any of the twists coming and they were all pretty good... and the ending... oh THE ENDING DAMMMIT... My favorite ending in any game and almost all media (only Stone Ocean and SBR can compare to this).

In Persona 5 are 2 pretty good twists... and that's it. What I agree with you is that the P5 romance is far superior, still I think that it doesn't live up to the P4 romances. And character development although more easy to understand in P3 (They almost go from 20 to 100 in a couple of days at the end) still think it was better of what we got in P5 (amazing for the awaken of the Persona and pretty litlle trough the story except for Morgana, sad thing the Confidant doesn't tie into the story for example reducing Ryuji stupidity or his mean demeanor to Morgana or Makoto being more lax with the Thieves).
Man I'm like the only one that actually likes the 5th palace. Also P4 romance is no where near as good as P5, it didn't even feel like I was helping them much and all of a sudden they like you. P5 explores flaws of each character and you feel like you helped them improve themselves as a person.

I agree with everything else you said about P3, I just wish Tartarus wasn't such a tedious task to do. Like going back to play it now after P5 is asking a lot.
Apr 24, 2017 3:28 PM

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Out of the three games, I'd say P4 has the weakest social links.

While many of P3 and P5's social links relate to Memento Mori or fighting against "the man", P4's theme of embracing who you really are is hardly emphasized.

I found Dojima's social link to be very enjoyable for example, but I'd be hard pressed to see how it relates to the overall theme of the game.
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I don't like how the party members in this game don't feel like a group of friends.

It makes it difficult to care about them as a group.

They didn't feel like friends in P4 either. Just a bunch of sycophants sucking Yu's dick all day. :^)
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Out of the three games, I'd say P4 has the weakest social links.

While many of P3 and P5's social links relate to Memento Mori or fighting against "the man", P4's theme of embracing who you really are is hardly emphasized.

I found Dojima's social link to be very enjoyable for example, but I'd be hard pressed to see how it relates to the overall theme of the game.
I thought it would be tough to beat out the Dojima's and Naoto's social links. Iwai and Yoshida are the two that made me think "Okay this game has the best social links." Really impressed with how involved I got with their stories.
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Dragonage2ftw said:
I don't like how the party members in this game don't feel like a group of friends.

It makes it difficult to care about them as a group.
I think thats because there was less "fun and carefree" moments and what they were doing as the Phantom Thieves always became the main topic of conversation. So naturally things always stayed seriously, I do get what your saying but I still feel the group has a strong bond because of all the things they do together. I did want another King's Game scene though, it made me miss some of the sillier moments that P4 had.
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Man I'm like the only one that actually likes the 5th palace. Also P4 romance is no where near as good as P5, it didn't even feel like I was helping them much and all of a sudden they like you. P5 explores flaws of each character and you feel like you helped them improve themselves as a person.

I agree with everything else you said about P3, I just wish Tartarus wasn't such a tedious task to do. Like going back to play it now after P5 is asking a lot.


You probably are. I did like that the villain's look was a weird fusion of Darth Vader and Buzz Lightyear.
Well, when I think in romance in P4 is in the valentines date and the ""harem route" That shit was tough on the feels.
While in P5 is played mostly for the laughs.... yeah, I would have liked the P4 treatment to that situation.

And yeah, P3 grinding and lame dungeon design are the only things that keep me to rate that as a perfect game.
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If I were to rank my favorite palaces, they would be:

P5's palaces are definitely much better than P4's dungeons and way, way better than P3's Tartarus. Making the dungeons hand-made as supposed to randomly generated, really improved the gameplay. It makes them much more memorable imo.
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Okay, we may disagree on certain thing but this is without a doubt the best dungeon's BGM.


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Okay, we may disagree on certain thing but this is without a doubt the best dungeon's BGM.


Too repetitive. Pyramid and spaceport are better.
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Major123 said:
Man I'm like the only one that actually likes the 5th palace. Also P4 romance is no where near as good as P5, it didn't even feel like I was helping them much and all of a sudden they like you. P5 explores flaws of each character and you feel like you helped them improve themselves as a person.

I agree with everything else you said about P3, I just wish Tartarus wasn't such a tedious task to do. Like going back to play it now after P5 is asking a lot.


You probably are. I did like that the villain's look was a weird fusion of Darth Vader and Buzz Lightyear.
Well, when I think in romance in P4 is in the valentines date and the ""harem route" That shit was tough on the feels.
While in P5 is played mostly for the laughs.... yeah, I would have liked the P4 treatment to that situation.

And yeah, P3 grinding and lame dungeon design are the only things that keep me to rate that as a perfect game.
I didn't care much for the bad guy in the 5th palace either but I thought the design of the dungeon was fun to explore. Also the harem route should always be a joke route, so I prefer how they handled it in P5. Ryuji's comedic timing is godtier. P5's Valentine's Day was also
So that scene really stuck with me.
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Major123 said:
I didn't care much for the bad guy in the 5th palace either but I thought the design of the dungeon was fun to explore. Also the harem route should always be a joke route, so I prefer how they handled it in P5. Ryuji's comedic timing is godtier. P5's Valentine's Day was also
So that scene really stuck with me.


Cheating on Futaba or Haru should never be a joke. :'(

Ryuji did a good job indeed, but a little of Yusuke in there would be godly.
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Major123 said:
I didn't care much for the bad guy in the 5th palace either but I thought the design of the dungeon was fun to explore. Also the harem route should always be a joke route, so I prefer how they handled it in P5. Ryuji's comedic timing is godtier. P5's Valentine's Day was also
So that scene really stuck with me.


Cheating on Futaba or Haru should never be a joke. :'(

Ryuji did a good job indeed, but a little of Yusuke in there would be godly.
Ooo that could of been really good. You just get bombarded with a bunch of texts from all your loner friends.
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Still gets me in the kokoro



Always considered Heaven to be one of my top dungeons but the Pyramid topped it.
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Only finished the first dungeon, but I heard you can fuck the adults in this one. Hope they aren't just shallow afterthoughts compared to the obvious romantic choices and schoolgirls.
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Sieg Zeon!
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60 hours later and I just realized I needed to seek out and find makoto for her social link I.. I am so upset the game didn't auto give it to me I wanted to date her
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60 hours later and I just realized I needed to seek out and find makoto for her social link I.. I am so upset the game didn't auto give it to me I wanted to date her

Dude... I think that at one point they say to you that she is always outside the library/student council room.
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Only finished the first dungeon, but I heard you can fuck the adults in this one. Hope they aren't just shallow afterthoughts compared to the obvious romantic choices and schoolgirls.
I believe you won't be disappointed.
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KurobaHime said:
60 hours later and I just realized I needed to seek out and find makoto for her social link I.. I am so upset the game didn't auto give it to me I wanted to date her

Dude... I think that at one point they say to you that she is always outside the library/student council room.
When you miss your chance to get with best girl #feelsbadman
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