teaknight said: i enjoy watching hot womenGangsterCat said: I agree that Keijo!!!!!!!!!!! is extremely sexist. I mean, where are all the male players? why aren't men allowed to participate!? sexist! you rly dont know how objectification and sexism works, dont ya? :) stay bitter with your narrow minded view of entertainment and don't passive aggressive smiley me like typical 'niceguy' loser :) |
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teaknight said: Keijo is the perfect example of objectification. Its disgusting, and I cant belive it even got produced.  Seriously though, can you actually explain why it's misogynistic or are you just going to virtue signal until people agree with you through intimidation? |
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| Anything that gives Keijo more exposure is fine by me, hehehe. The more people that know about it, the greater chance of it become an actual sport (or at least a pastime that people can enjoy). Watch people start installing lands on water parks. It's gonna be Japan's next fad. XD |
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| Surprised that dude defended it. He's comments on Islam when he's on TYT border on retarded, though. |
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| Stop giving clicks and views to shitty articles and videos. You're just adding fuel to the fire, you bloody idiots. |
| as far as i've seen Keijo!!!!!!!! was not hyped up in japan... if this kinda shit saves it due to free publicity and it gets it another season, im not complaining |
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| Here's something that I found pretty funny. https://heatst.com/tech/keijo-is-misogynist-anime-child-porn/ |
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| It great day to be an anime fan, Especially when the medium you love has triggered some very special snow flakes. |
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shadowbringer616 said: could you please explain in which way Keijo is an example of *objectification*? Depending on the criteria used, boxing (but not limited to it) manga/anime are also examples of objectification (as in, two players fighting each other while other people watch them). Sexual objectification, the definition; "Female sexual objectification by a male involves a woman being viewed primarily as an object of male sexual desire, rather than as a whole person." In other words, the show is about ass and tits clashing together so the wiever can fap to it. It would be ok if it would be porn; but this is supposed to be a sports anime. Im offended by the way how the characters are used and presented in a non pornografic production. shadowbringer616 said: >> Its disgusting do you have any argument that objectively supports this affirmation? Like I said; would the show be a pornographic production, I wouldnt care, seriously, go watch your porn. ( I dont even care if characters are butt nacked in other anime generes as long they are treated in a respectful way - and god knows there are good erotic scenes, or characters shown nude for many different artistic reasons- I dont have a problem with that, I even think its a quite refreshing. ) But this kind of sexual objectification of female characters in a sports anime- it disgusts me, rly. If you dont get that, imagine guy characters in place of the girls, slashing their dicks and butts together in this "sports anime" Quite lovely for the heterosexual male part of the audience, isn't it? shadowbringer616 said: About the manga/anime being mysoginist (= "against women"), it could totally be mysoginist based on the premise, but it isn't; the manga and anime don't put one gender above the other, nor do they spread any message against women. Its totally mysogginist. How, do you ask? Again, imagine Keijo with only male characters. And now try to identify with one of these butt and dick slashing guy characters. ppl are making fun of simmilar sexist stuff in western comics;   |
Biogundam said: It great day to be an anime fan, Especially when the medium you love has triggered some very special snow flakes. Good that some of us, long year anime fans can still ditinguish sexist shit like Keijo from quality anime. Lobinde said: Seriously though, can you actually explain why it's misogynistic or are you just going to virtue signal until people agree with you through intimidation? ahah , are you this uncomfortable with ppl saying you watching sexist crap? :)) poor you, lil ecchi fan, eaten alive by the bad internet feminist :P If Im watching crap (for whatever reason) I'm also saying its literally crap. And Im not pretending its some masterpieace ;) GangsterCat said: i enjoy watching hot women stay bitter with your narrow minded view of entertainment and don't passive aggressive smiley me like typical 'niceguy' loser :) Its not my fault if you're uneducated (seriously, one can google such basic things as sexism and misogyny- rly.) and think of cheap anime with butts slamming tits as "entertainment". Seriously, would I be an ecchi fan I'd be offended that somebody produced smth like that and thought I'll watch it and maybe even buy merchandise! |
teaknightOct 25, 2016 4:55 AM
Kirulas said: Females who watch Keijo, what are your opinions on it? Is it, to you, sexist? For me it's pretty much unwatchable anyway, because in most cases for a girl it's very painful to be hit in breasts. It's not "kyaa, arousing", but usually "damn, feels like something was crushed, also need to breath". An example, that is brought up above, of a sport with males clashing with dicks, seems to be a decent analogy. And I know for sure that some guys can't even see crotch hits in movies, they say it's physically uncomfortable to watch. I don't get physical reaction, but "boob-battles" are cringy anyways. Basically they bend human physiology for the sake of ecchi and try to play it straight. |
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| I'm not gonna lie, Keijo's plot is actually top notch shounen level plot, for what it's worth, and the ridiculousness is precisely what one would expect of Japan. Also, where are the SJW complaints? OP title is a cake (lie). |
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deadoptimist said: Kirulas said: Females who watch Keijo, what are your opinions on it? Is it, to you, sexist? For me it's pretty much unwatchable anyway, because in most cases for a girl it's very painful to be hit in breasts. It's not "kyaa, arousing", but usually "damn, feels like something was crushed, also need to breath". An example, that is brought up above, of a sport with males clashing with dicks, seems to be a decent analogy. And I know for sure that some guys can't even see crotch hits in movies, they say it's physically uncomfortable to watch. I don't get physical reaction, but "boob-battles" are cringy anyways. Basically they bend human physiology for the sake of ecchi and try to play it straight. I agree, clashing tits hurts and is unpleasant, not "whoa, sexy". if you have big tits, even running energeticly or jumping without a proper bra hurts and is very uncomfortable. |
cybershrimp said: sjws are fucking annoying What even are sjw? I dont see myself as some strange internet meme, because I call out sexual objecification in anime. Sexists are on the other hand real in this world, just like racists or homophobes. worldeditor11 said: People views on anime: Anime women = objects Anime men =/= objects LOL I actually feel grateful that my country or any Asian countries free from these feminazis and SJWs delusional beliefs. Its sexual obejctification, sherlock. Short; objectification. I cant belive so many ppl dont know such basic things. |
teaknightOct 25, 2016 5:06 AM
DeplorableNico said: Wow, I didn't know radical leftists cared more about Keijo than all of Japan does (it sells rather poorly). It doesnt surprise me. Japan is the land of sexual molestation and strange fetishes, like, you can buy used womens panties (for sniffing and faping) in vending mashines. Its a huge problem. Its so bad, esp in trains, they even invented "ladies trains" (like, one part is for women only) so women can ride the train without beeing molested. Also, I didn knew one has to be "radical" to see such obvious things. (wow, nobody called me 'rad until now!) |
| LOL SJWs and their perpetual outrage. oooo i LOVE the trigger fest in here too. |
RaspberryKissesOct 25, 2016 5:44 AM
teaknight said: You wouldn't believe the shit that's displayed in public in Akihabara. It's even worse when you go into some of the anime shops. And that's not even getting into the 18+ section. Hell, people under 18 shouldn't even be allowed to go to Akihabara full stop.It doesnt surprise me. Japan is the land of sexual molestation and strange fetishes, like, you can buy used womens panties (for sniffing and faping) in vending mashines. Its a huge problem. Its so bad, esp in trains, they even invented "ladies trains" (like, one part is for women only) so women can ride the train without beeing molested. Also, I didn knew one has to be "radical" to see such obvious things. (wow, nobody called me 'rad until now!) But honestly I don't think there's any reason to pick on Keijo in particular. There's so much sexist shit in anime but I think Keijo is pretty harmless and goofy. It's just so detached from reality that I can't see it negatively influencing anyone. Japan has a sex problem. There is no doubt about that. But I think there are targets far more deserving of people's hatred than Keijo. |
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| @teaknight you reaaaaally need to quit your shitty ass 'movement' and learn to enjoy stuff mate lmao reading your posts just make me even more grateful than before that i was born and live in asian country |
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| My enjoyment of Keijo isn't the fanservice. I don't let myself be attracted to anime girls and generally feel pretty ashamed that so much panders to guys like me as if we're incapable of liking anything different. While I don't abhore the boobs and butt aspect, it's not why I'm watching it. It's the characters. They're endearing and fun. I related to Aoba's situation and so wanted to see her become more sociable. Their character development and learning to work together as a team is better done than quite a lot of non echi anime I've seen. deadoptimist said: Kirulas said: Females who watch Keijo, what are your opinions on it? Is it, to you, sexist? For me it's pretty much unwatchable anyway, because in most cases for a girl it's very painful to be hit in breasts. It's not "kyaa, arousing", but usually "damn, feels like something was crushed, also need to breath". An example, that is brought up above, of a sport with males clashing with dicks, seems to be a decent analogy. And I know for sure that some guys can't even see crotch hits in movies, they say it's physically uncomfortable to watch. I don't get physical reaction, but "boob-battles" are cringy anyways. Basically they bend human physiology for the sake of ecchi and try to play it straight. I've never considered it that way. Thanks for your opinion. I suppose then that most, if not all, female viewers can't suspend disbelief for Keijo like guys would. |
| "| dunno what it is tell meh wut is teh mango" I lost it rofl |
teaknight said: Lobinde said: Seriously though, can you actually explain why it's misogynistic or are you just going to virtue signal until people agree with you through intimidation? ahah , are you this uncomfortable with ppl saying you watching sexist crap? :)) poor you, lil ecchi fan, eaten alive by the bad internet feminist :P Lol I'm not even an ecchi fan, nice strawman and complete refusal to answer my question though. |
| I've noticed social justice weenies can never refute without resorting to strawman arguments. Particularly stuff like "you're a sexist!" or "you're a trump supporter!" I'm a leftist, I hate SJWs even more than most trump supporters because they hijacked my political position and turned it into a joke. |
addioo12 said: JustALEX said: The following is a clip from one of the shows produced by "The Young Turks"....so yeah... ^The show is called "Pop Trigger".....the jokes write themselves! The Lesbian feminist at one point makes a reference about if she's able to turn off her feminism so she can enjoy certain things....lol. Oh and here is the Kotaku article... http://kotaku.com/girls-fight-with-their-butts-and-boobs-in-this-deplorab-1787657403 ^lol...if you can make it through this article, congrats. The moment I read ´The Young Turks´, I knew it was going to be absolute BS. I don´t even need to watch the video to know that Since you didn't watch the video allow me to summarize it for you. The woman just read from the Kotaku article, but the guy is a fan of japanese anime and manga. He made some good points for why that sort of fan service is normal in japanese culture and it wasn't a big deal. |
| The author of the Kotaku article when asked about the anime Free!... "I haven’t seen Free!. I will add that men are valued by their appeal to women much less than women are valued by their appeal to men, and with less tangible results, like pay raises and employment opportunities (since, statistically, men are more often in positions of power over these things). This treatment of women is a part of the fiber of society, and if you’re interested, there are many studies on it. Because the issue of where a women’s value lies exists on a larger, structural scale, I think it’s a bigger problem than it is for men, who are more readily judged by their intelligence or sense of humor." And once again it turns into another feminist argument that's been refuted time after time. |
teaknight said: cybershrimp said: sjws are fucking annoying What even are sjw? I dont see myself as some strange internet meme, because I call out sexual objecification in anime. Sexists are on the other hand real in this world, just like racists or homophobes. worldeditor11 said: People views on anime: Anime women = objects Anime men =/= objects LOL I actually feel grateful that my country or any Asian countries free from these feminazis and SJWs delusional beliefs. Its sexual obejctification, sherlock. Short; objectification. I cant belive so many ppl dont know such basic things. Objectification is a nonsense concept. Finding people, or anime girls (which actually are objects) isn't wrong anymore than being a male is wrong. Giving it a label like "objectification" doesn't change reality. It just reflects how deluded you are. |
SnugDarkly said: it's ridiculous that if I find someone -insert any adjective here- , it means i'm "objectifying (or whatever the fuck)" them ROFLteaknight said: What even are sjw? I dont see myself as some strange internet meme, because I call out sexual objecification in anime. Sexists are on the other hand real in this world, just like racists or homophobes. Its sexual obejctification, sherlock. Short; objectification. I cant belive so many ppl dont know such basic things. Objectification is a nonsense concept. Finding people, or anime girls (which actually are objects) isn't wrong anymore than being a male is wrong. Giving it a label like "objectification" doesn't change reality. It just reflects how deluded you are. it's even more ridiculous that as you said, Keijo is an anime, which is literally an object LMAO western social norms smfh there is no limit to sjw and modern feminist stupidity |
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Tenshi_Shura said: Deknijff said: Girls please just stop. Let us guys enjoy what we want We gave you Free after all  isn't that fair enough now As if men weren't bitching about Free and other "fujoshit" shows too. Tenshi_Shura said: Deknijff said: Girls please just stop. Let us guys enjoy what we want We gave you Free after all isn't that fair enough now As if men weren't bitching about Free and other "fujoshit" shows too. Tenshi_Shura said: Deknijff said: Girls please just stop. Let us guys enjoy what we want We gave you Free after all isn't that fair enough now As if men weren't bitching about Free and other "fujoshit" shows too. Men that haven't been liberalized aren't like women. They can hate something and be perfectly alright with it existing. Women can't do that. |
YayaChibi said: lol @JustALEX , you should know keijo!!!!!! is a godsend..... @EcchiLordMamster you should know too......lol We shouldn't have to back-down because of SJW's....... lol......I just wanna embrace my fujoshit, ecchifag, and yurifaness in front of these people......lol Wonder how they'll react....lol thats the best thing you can do... just keep embracing what you love no matter how much shit others talk, and eventually they will stfu or at least lose |
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EcchiLordMamster said: YayaChibi said: lol @JustALEX , you should know keijo!!!!!! is a godsend..... @EcchiLordMamster you should know too......lol We shouldn't have to back-down because of SJW's....... lol......I just wanna embrace my fujoshit, ecchifag, and yurifaness in front of these people......lol Wonder how they'll react....lol thats the best thing you can do... just keep embracing what you love no matter how much shit others talk, and eventually they will stfu or at least lose Wrong. Eventually normalfags and puritans will win. They always win in the end, and the stupid people that keep spreading their shit and giving them ad revenue aren't helping. |
teaknight said: shadowbringer616 said: could you please explain in which way Keijo is an example of *objectification*? Depending on the criteria used, boxing (but not limited to it) manga/anime are also examples of objectification (as in, two players fighting each other while other people watch them). Sexual objectification, the definition; "Female sexual objectification by a male involves a woman being viewed primarily as an object of male sexual desire, rather than as a whole person." In other words, the show is about ass and tits clashing together so the wiever can fap to it. It would be ok if it would be porn; but this is supposed to be a sports anime. Im offended by the way how the characters are used and presented in a non pornografic production. shadowbringer616 said: >> Its disgusting do you have any argument that objectively supports this affirmation? Like I said; would the show be a pornographic production, I wouldnt care, seriously, go watch your porn. ( I dont even care if characters are butt nacked in other anime generes as long they are treated in a respectful way - and god knows there are good erotic scenes, or characters shown nude for many different artistic reasons- I dont have a problem with that, I even think its a quite refreshing. ) But this kind of sexual objectification of female characters in a sports anime- it disgusts me, rly. If you dont get that, imagine guy characters in place of the girls, slashing their dicks and butts together in this "sports anime" Quite lovely for the heterosexual male part of the audience, isn't it? shadowbringer616 said: About the manga/anime being mysoginist (= "against women"), it could totally be mysoginist based on the premise, but it isn't; the manga and anime don't put one gender above the other, nor do they spread any message against women. Its totally mysogginist. How, do you ask? Again, imagine Keijo with only male characters. And now try to identify with one of these butt and dick slashing guy characters. ppl are making fun of simmilar sexist stuff in western comics; Before I start my post, I'd like to explain that I'm fine with people posting their opinions, that I'm fine that all opinions posted are subject to critique, and that it would be okay for me if you said (for example) "this anime is disgusting for me/imo" (because it's pointless to me, to try to forcefully alter someone's opinions; that would give other people the right to forcefully alter mine's), instead of "this anime is disgusting", implying that it is *objectively* disgusting, that everyone (who have or have not watched it) has agreed or will agree with this affirmation, and potentially spreading misinformation. Also, providing basis for affirmations helps people understand the person's point of view, so for example, when someone says "this show is a solid 2/10" without explaining what led him/her to this conclusion, no one listening will understand why he/she should be trusted or have any other piece of information than his/her final conclusion. Now, with the post. >> Sexual objectification, the definition; >> "Female sexual objectification by a male involves a woman being viewed primarily as an object of male sexual desire, rather than as a whole person." First, regarding objectification by the spectators in the manga's universe, *light manga spoiler* ) Second, regarding objectification by the readers/watchers of the manga/anime, whether it happens or not depends on the reader/watcher, it can't be objectively proved (and the fact that *I* don't see the characters as primarily objects for male sexual desires means that it can be objectively disproved) >> In other words, the show is about ass and tits clashing together somewhat close, but in order to win, clashing isn't mandatory; players can target other areas (and even interact with the lands, to some extent) in order to knock other players into the water, or make them touch the lands with any body part that's not their feet. >> so the wiever can fap to it. again, this affirmation isn't objectively true; not everyone is (sexually) stimulated by "asses and tits clashing together". >> Im offended by the way how the characters are used and presented in a non pornografic production. I can understand this, people have different tolerance limits for fanservice (here I'm using "fanservice" with the meaning of "sexually stimulating imagery", not the meaning of "going out of one's way to service fans in one way or another", due to not knowing a word for it); I normally filter it out with little effort (thankfully), but I can accept it if other people don't. >> ( I dont even care if characters are butt nacked in other anime generes as long they are treated in a respectful way - and god knows there are good erotic scenes, or characters shown nude for many different artistic reasons- I dont have a problem with that, I even think its a quite refreshing. ) But this kind of sexual objectification of female characters in a sports anime- it disgusts me, rly. *pre-anime manga spoiler* >> If you dont get that, imagine guy characters in place of the girls, slashing their dicks and butts together in this "sports anime" Quite lovely for the heterosexual male part of the audience, isn't it? for the sake of analogy, it would be more fitting if instead of using their genitals, they used manboobs; depending on the execution of the matches, it could be distracting (if it looked like the male players aren't putting effort in their attacks) or not be (to get an idea of what I mean with this, *manga/anime spoiler* ) >> Its totally mysogginist. How, do you ask? Again, imagine Keijo with only male characters. And now try to identify with one of these butt and dick slashing guy characters. this doesn't explain why Keijo would be mysoginist, nor is the setting that you've presented mysandric. (also, for the analogy to work better, the actual manga/anime would have to replace breasts with vaginas) deadoptimist said: For me it's pretty much unwatchable anyway, because in most cases for a girl it's very painful to be hit in breasts. I agree that it should hurt, realistically, but.. I can take anime where people smash rocks with their fists (or feet, or back) just fine; I can watch scenes like this and be like, "okay". Not trying to argue or disprove anything (since people have different limits for suspension of disbelief), just adding my cents. |
SnugDarkly said: EcchiLordMamster said: thats the best thing you can do... just keep embracing what you love no matter how much shit others talk, and eventually they will stfu or at least lose Wrong. Eventually normalfags and puritans will win. They always win in the end, and the stupid people that keep spreading their shit and giving them ad revenue aren't helping. sure, maybe in the west... but in japan they won't... japan will keep making anime like this and keeping pissing off the butthurts |
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EcchiLordMamster said: SnugDarkly said: Wrong. Eventually normalfags and puritans will win. They always win in the end, and the stupid people that keep spreading their shit and giving them ad revenue aren't helping. sure, maybe in the west... but in japan they won't... japan will keep making anime like this and keeping pissing off the butthurts They'll eventually win there too. It'll just take a little longer. The more sheltered people become, the more they'll demand censorship. |
SnugDarkly said: They'll eventually win there too. It'll just take a little longer. The more sheltered people become, the more they'll demand censorship. where is the evidence that japan is being affected by SJWs? i mean, i know they are affected when trying to distribute things to other countries, but not in the country itself but yea i agree, we shouldn't give free publicity to SJW's, however SJW's continue to give free publicity to content |
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shadowbringer616 said: I agree that it should hurt, realistically, but.. I can take anime where people smash rocks with their fists (or feet, or back) just fine; I can watch scenes like this and be like, "okay". Not trying to argue or disprove anything (since people have different limits for suspension of disbelief), just adding my cents. We-ell, it isn't exactly about suspension of disbelief, it's about cringy bullshit. You can still hit something with fists, so hitting something that is normally impossible is an exaggeration of something that can be done, that shows how powerful the character is. It’s a continuation of logic. Hitting stuff with boobs is abnormal, there’s no logic. Breasts don't have muscles, it's crushing your - highly sensitive - glands against ribs. And they don't float like two balls, they hang, you won’t be able to push a tire with them, maybe with some very special bra, but I haven’t noticed it mentioned here. It could work in something outlandish, but Keijo aims for faux-realism, so this irritates me. (And it has a lot of such moments, that are supposed to be character or plot driven, but what really drives them are pantyshots. Personally, I prefer shows to be more open with their pragmatics.) Also, pardon me for saying this, as, I know, the annoying “it’s fiction, yadda, yadda” argument will be brought up agains, but I don’t look forward to people getting ideas about boobs being hittable or a good thing to strike with. I fully expect experiments in this direction – people are stupid, and even live action porn somehow doesn’t help with knowledge on female physiology. (Actually there’s something with anime and completely borked boobs lately, like that Hestia ribbon, but at least it was fantasy and she was a goddess.) |
deadoptimist said: it's fiction, yadda, yaddashadowbringer616 said: I agree that it should hurt, realistically, but.. I can take anime where people smash rocks with their fists (or feet, or back) just fine; I can watch scenes like this and be like, "okay". Not trying to argue or disprove anything (since people have different limits for suspension of disbelief), just adding my cents. We-ell, it isn't exactly about suspension of disbelief, it's about cringy bullshit. You can still hit something with fists, so hitting something that is normally impossible is an exaggeration of something that can be done, that shows how powerful the character is. It’s a continuation of logic. Hitting stuff with boobs is abnormal, there’s no logic. Breasts don't have muscles, it's crushing your - highly sensitive - glands against ribs. And they don't float like two balls, they hang, you won’t be able to push a tire with them, maybe with some very special bra, but I haven’t noticed it mentioned here. It could work in something outlandish, but Keijo aims for faux-realism, so this irritates me. (And it has a lot of such moments, that are supposed to be character or plot driven, but what really drives them are pantyshots. Personally, I prefer shows to be more open with their pragmatics.) Also, pardon me for saying this, as, I know, the annoying “it’s fiction, yadda, yadda” argument will be brought up agains, but I don’t look forward to people getting ideas about boobs being hittable or a good thing to strike with. I fully expect experiments in this direction – people are stupid, and even live action porn somehow doesn’t help with knowledge on female physiology. (Actually there’s something with anime and completely borked boobs lately, like that Hestia ribbon, but at least it was fantasy and she was a goddess.) |
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GangsterCat said: it's fiction, yadda, yadda Good work. Didn't disappoint. |
| Man, it's just the double standard that gets me most... I've never in my life seen an sjw go after the numerous shows that objectify men because guys just don't care lol. The media and society idealizes me as needing to be muscular, tall, rich, drive the girl around everywhere and pay for dates, etc, but I'm not complaining. I assume women have the sense to know the difference between ideal and reality; would be nice if they assumed the same of us. Anyway, if you don't like the content just don't watch it. Girls have their crap, guys have their crap, bi people have both, just leave it alone. |
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| I was never a big fan of ecchi ... but animes are better than that. I gave up watching Kill la Kill half of the anime because of things "unnecessary" and would not have ended DxD if not for history. There is no sense in making elaborate explanations about the lack of logic in the anime, it is an anime, and while there are people who like it, no problem, opinions always differ. |
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