Takafumi Hori (Kill la Kill, Little Witch Academia) on anime budget

Sep 10, 2016 1:39 PM

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In terms of the project schedule, they’re basically the same. Movie or TV, they’re not too different. What matters the most is that the project with the higher budget can hire more experienced, seasoned animators. Animators are usually free-lanced and it costs money to contract them. The animators basically draw out whatever they’re told by the storyboard which is like a big instruction manual for the whole series. And the storyboard is written by the storyboard artist which again comes to a personal skill factor.

Another factor might be that for TV series or lower budget projects, the director holds back on what they want to do. I guess they’re more realistic with the budget. And if they have the budget, they might want to do more crazy angles or performances. All that factors into why you have the difference between a TV series or a movie/OVA quality series.

Source: http://www.all-fiction.net/2015/07/14/animenext-2015-trigger-interview/

Sep 10, 2016 1:48 PM

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Anyone else get paid to draw panties lmao xP

Sep 10, 2016 1:54 PM

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Alyssa said:
Anyone else get paid to draw panties lmao xP

How about hentai artists?

Pretty sure they are.

Sep 10, 2016 2:00 PM

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storyboarding is some seriously important shit, and often done by director i believe

"this anime has good/bad storyboarding" is a thought i need to have more often

Sep 10, 2016 2:06 PM

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we are getting conflicting infos then, the One Punch Man character designer said that budget/cost is generally the same for all anime, maybe he means for most TV anime then the cost/budget are kinda the same

and ye it makes sense for anime movies to have higher budgets thats for sure, like Ghibli movies cost around 10-30 million US dollars if i recall right while anime TV series which has 12-24 episodes usually have a budget of 2-4 million US dollars

Sep 10, 2016 3:41 PM

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Thanks for linking that article, it's the one where it says about them only working on inferno cop for 2 hours a week XD.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

Sep 10, 2016 10:48 PM

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j0x said:
we are getting conflicting infos then, the One Punch Man character designer said that budget/cost is generally the same for all anime, maybe he means for most TV anime then the cost/budget are kinda the same

and ye it makes sense for anime movies to have higher budgets thats for sure, like Ghibli movies cost around 10-30 million US dollars if i recall right while anime TV series which has 12-24 episodes usually have a budget of 2-4 million US dollars

Here's a quote from Shinichiro Kashiwada, a veteran anime producer:

Well, to be frank, the production budget for an animated show is all over the place. For instance, the production budget for Sword Art Online and Mahouka are very different.

Source: http://www.anigamers.com/interviews/sword-art-online-shinichiro-kashiwada-interview

It seems to suggest that budgets do vary. No disrespect to Chikashi Kubota (One Punch Man character designer) but on the subject of budgets a producer's words carry more weight than an animator since they're more involved in the money side of the industry. Despite that, I still think we should not take a few statements here and there and say, "this is representative of the whole anime industry." There's so very little we know, it's an industry worth billions of dollars that can't be just simplified as budget vs staff/schedule.

Sep 11, 2016 1:45 AM

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yodsanklai said:

Here's a quote from Shinichiro Kashiwada, a veteran anime producer:

Well, to be frank, the production budget for an animated show is all over the place. For instance, the production budget for Sword Art Online and Mahouka are very different.

well we do not need to ignore anime insiders statements either though

i now believe Kubota is more talking about average budget for an anime there and it so happens that One Punch Man only has an average budget but dedicated animators

anime insiders already stated in the past too that 1-cour anime TV show cost an average of 2 million US dollars while 2-cour anime TV show cost an average of 4 million US dollars, source - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-13/anime-insiders-share-how-much-producing-a-season-costs/.91536

Sep 11, 2016 12:33 PM

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You have to understand that anime budget encompasses lot more than just animation. When a producer says budget varies he's saying about the whole product, from music to seiyuu costs & promotion and stuff.

Chikashi kubota is referring to only "animation" production, and I believe him when he says animation budget is same for tv anime because it's a common known fact that animators are paid poorly & pretty much same everywhere in Japan. The only exceptions are hi profile sunrise, ig, etc shows

Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY.

Sep 11, 2016 9:26 PM

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JetNoir said:
You have to understand that anime budget encompasses lot more than just animation. When a producer says budget varies he's saying about the whole product, from music to seiyuu costs & promotion and stuff.

Chikashi kubota is referring to only "animation" production, and I believe him when he says animation budget is same for tv anime because it's a common known fact that animators are paid poorly & pretty much same everywhere in Japan. The only exceptions are hi profile sunrise, ig, etc shows

But Kubota didn't specifically say animation budget, he referred to budget in a general sense. Also Shinichiro Kashiwada mentioned that promotion is additional cost. It's not part of the production budget, since obviously marketing has nothing to do with production.

Kashiwada said:
Well, to be frank, the production budget for an animated show is all over the place. For instance, the production budget for Sword Art Online and Mahouka are very different. Sword Art has 24 episodes a season, so the simple math for a production budget might be 24 times the budget for a single episode. But on top of that you may have other budget considerations such as promotion and miscellaneous costs.

Also, if you take a look at the budget estimates the anime insiders provided, what they think is average actually varies.

According to Masamune Sakaki, a CG creator in the anime industry, an average 13-episode anime season costs around 250 million yen (or $2 million).

" Shinji Takamatsu, a veteran animator, cited a figure of 150 to 200 million yen ($1.2 to $1.6 million).

That's an $800 thousand difference between the highest and the lowest estimate. That's quite a variance. Also, average doesn't mean all anime cost this much.

Sep 11, 2016 9:29 PM

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Kimi no na wa is an epic masterpiece.

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