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TheBrainintheJar said:


I think it was GoatJesus whose whole review of Future Diary consisted of 'whoa this is weird therefore bad'. It felt more like he's whining because it's not grimdark bullshit like Texhnolyze.

GaryL said:


I think I've never seen a post from you where you don't complain about Texhnolyze, just saying...

TheBrainintheJar said:

It's a good example of pretty much anything I can dislike about anime. It's like Game of Thrones sum up nearly everything I hate about bad literature.

kamisama751 said:

Thatanimesnob is single and unemployed. Digibro is a shutin. Bobsamurai spend all his money for DVDs and Blu rays and is single. AnimeAddicts has got a real life and left the anime commuity.
Yeah... you are right. xD

Lap1 said:
The answer is always Gigguk.




Brr~ I might not be able to sleep if i don't speak my mind on this. I'd also like to know what are the things you hate on this.

I only started Got 2weeks ago, currently mid S4. For a long time i ignore it and think quite ill of it.
Indeed it's what you could call grimdark, and it's was not supposed to be that much to my liking, but i accept it because the wheel keep turning anyway and because from what i can tell, this is GoT point of view on the world/humanity that every single person is just a human to the deepest parts of themselves, meaning that they are all heavily flawed like 50% of their being is flaw, they are in fact weaklings, they have no control over as much as they think, they are all mortals of the same rank, no grand hero ( That's something that bother me btw

-All the characters are likable, even the evils ones trigger your empathy, the writer developps them in a way they are ALL justified(acts, behaviors etc), they are ALL understandable, every single one has an ethic, they are also ALL reasoned persons, even the worst ones act logically with reason/consideration and some times also with restraint, it sells you the fact that in fact there is no bad guys, no mad mens, just bunch of maggots thinking they roxx in chess, if god(s) are watching them they are probabling laughing at this entertainment, at such pitifull creature, playing war, killing each others for stupid titles and a chair.
You also have to understand that it's normal to put heads on spikes and singing along, it isn't evil, it's being your normal human being, it's the custom of this age, afterall no one was bothered by the guillotine back then.

So in brief: It's all about vengeance and vengeance, honorable/paragon choice always comes back to kick you in the teeth causing you misery or deaths, no redemption or pardon, everyone is human, all the same, people died if they are killed.

That's pretty much how the serie works imo.

For the good points, seeing a lot of characters contributing to the story, each one of them actions having consequences on the whole, seeing their path converging, crossing, entertwine, diverging or ending is fun, some entering the story along the way, characters are moving, everything change places, destruction, reconstruction, the continent is a cardboard game, GoT is a play.
The closest anime to it are obviously Fate/zero and Berserk, notably for the multiple pov, plots, fatality, and throne chase.

Hope it kinda interested you to see it that way, hope you kept up with my phrasing and grammar too~

TheBrainintheJar said:

I don't find the characters human because their emotions are pushed aside and there's no insight into their psychology, into their flaws and into their weaknesses. The bad guys are really really evil.

Lap1 said:

i don't see how their emotions are pushed aside, they are quite controled beings though, didn't see one being strictly a thirsty beast btw.
By 'really human' i meant that the author seems to emphatize a lot of the being human= being flawed, weak, you don't amount to much, life will easily trick you etc, they are all human they are all equal, they are both bad and good, thirsty for blood and resonated. Also it shows you that anyone can kill whoever he wants whether he's a peasan, trader or a little girl. Seems like being a king doesn't change your status as being a mortal neither does being an information broker mean that much in terms of power. That's the thing GoT seems to like showing, human= frail, insignifiant,trivial, isn't the story trivial and futile? You know you see some strong character, confident, feeling untouchable, and they got humiliatingly trashed later like nothing.

For the psychology part, it's mostly because it's how it is in this age. Stilll after one season it start to talk about it a bit, motherlove, family status, preserving the order, nothing grandiose. But yeah they seem a bit bland, no one is anything 'special', they don't seem to have any strong conviction, belief, faith in their life, like they have no soul, they are puppet, still each character has his own characterization. I personally like Arya and all the ['+/-rogue' fighter following a 'leader']/['individual fighter/mercenary' with standard]-type like Jorah, Jaqen, Bronn, Sandor, Jaime, brienne and davos.

For the bad guys, only one is really evil, really sadistic but even for him, the story has tried to make you understand his being and pov, enough to make me think he's not that bad, just immature, poor kid, i pity him.

No it's definitely not pessimistic, just a cycle of killing, there is no "you're the evilest so you win everything", no you will died too.

I personally laughed at the shortcoming of some characters, Ned is a good example, the 'honorable' character type, it translates into stupidity, stuborness, always following rules, zero awareness. He really feel empty as a person maybe because he's a simple dude and all of this is just too much for him, it is far over his head, definitely not fit to be a king, no one is btw. The quest for the throne is as empty as the quest for the Grail, it's a stupid game of throne after all, the characters seems to really lack awareness/entendement, it's purely a fate/zero, all characters are just a something, they are not full, i don't remember anyone having some sort of realization which made him have a change of mind (well the targaryen did that a bit but she was totally a bland girl at first, same for John snow.)

Winning the throne is the goal of everyone, dunno why, maybe because their royal blood dictates it but obviously none of them is a perfect king, there is no perfect king possible in the serie, you can at least root for the good kind which calues peoploe life, the targaryen, margaery, tyrion, rodd.
Although the serie doesn't care about putting a king on the throne, its interest is the life of its characters within this mess where everyone is converging because of this plot.
My problem is that no one seek to make big change in the world because they eagerly yearn for it, becoming king to change how the world is, but for the characters the world is how it is there is nothing to change and they only want to be king beecause they are sidelined of royal blood. Although the Targaryen and Margaery seems to care about people, loooks like bland caring though.

Burn After Reading? Why's that? it's a comedy.