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I've decided to join the army. Anyone have any tips/stories to share with me?

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Apr 20, 2016 12:00 AM
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So my life has been going downhill for a long time, there is no question about that. I felt like I had hit a dead end, or the end of the line.

I spent a lot of time speaking to people who were really experienced and knew me very well. They shared all kinds of stories, tips and ideas, and I spent weeks mulling them over.

I came to the conclusion that the army is what I want. I'm tired of the grey areas. The army is black and white. You get told to do something, and you do it. I want to live in that solace.

Furthermore, I want to feel like I'm worth something. Serving my country, making a difference, that is perhaps my purpose in life.

Does anyone have any experience in the army? Any sort of tips/stories/help, anything that could give me an idea of what to expect?

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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Apr 20, 2016 12:18 AM
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No idea how's the army over there, but I can give you some tips.

Never take the sergeants etc who keep barking at you too personally. It's just their job, they don't actually hate you.

Make sure to do EXACTLY what you're told. No objections.


Make sure to start training long before you enter, basic training should be enough. Lifting weights, stretching, stuff like that. Untrained will have hell in front of them in the army.

It will be very frustrating and depressing, but try your best to keep your cool. Don't let it bring you down.

Good luck!
MircallaMorriganApr 20, 2016 12:25 AM
Apr 20, 2016 12:21 AM
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I was going to join up, air force then a few years later after I left university the Navy but a mental health evaluation kind of stopped that progressing. I was like you, lost wanting the spartan life, straight forward, something to solely devote my time and focus to doing. A career path laid out clear, was getting tired of living vaguely day to day.

Yeah if you're sure its a good option, I did a lot of research at the time, training is hard but not out of reach of someone averagely fit and mentally willing to take punishment. Have you thought about specialties or just going in for the soldier route because theres a ton of options like tank operators, radio communications and they all offer training and degrees for further advancement in those fields in civilian life.

I just recommend watching some youtube videos of training, new recruit interviews, check out all the roles available, go on the site see what draws your attention. If you decide to join up still best to hit the gym now because the process takes some time and it'll give you the best start you can. Running cardio and endurance training is far more important than physical bulk training and then cut out everything else from your life I don't mean like stop talking to family or anything but focus all your attention and life on this thing, no distractions outside the base and your training. Live like a spartan soldier a life that revolves around his work path.

I doubt you'll get much support or guidance here, most people tend to be so anti army that they won't even talk to you on the subject unless its to call you stupid for throwing your life away. Like any other choice and path in life is any different. I know theres a few ex armed forces people on Mal here and there should wait for them sure they can tell you more.

Good luck soldier.

Apr 20, 2016 12:32 AM
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MAL is not the place to be asking for advice for anything army-related. The intellectuals will come to tell you how much better they are than you.

Most of my family who went to the army came back fucked in the head. War is not something anyone should have to go through. Good luck is all I have to tell you.
Apr 20, 2016 2:01 AM
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I'm assuming you want information on basic training in particular, so I'll try and recount a few things. To start with though, if you haven't already taken the ASVAB, study for it. I don't know how bright you are or how well you perform on tests, but this score will determine the type of MOS you are eligible for. So if you know you do poorly on such things, look up some study guides and take the time to do well. Don't let a recruiter talk you into a MOS that you know isn't a good fit for you. Recruiters often get a bad rap, but they do tend to push for certain jobs that aren't popular but need filling. I remember mine wanted me to be a cook lol.

Before you ship out, if you're not already a morning person, then get yourself on a early morning schedule. You want to be use to being up by at least 6. Also, if by some chance you do not currently have your social security number memorized, do it. You'll fill out a shitload of paperwork and they will all require it. Also, if you can memorize the rank insignia ahead of time you may save yourself some trouble later. I'll put the rest in spoilers so as to keep the forum clean as it will be quite lengthy describing basic.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:11 AM
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I don't have stories. But from what I collected from your previous thread, army surely does seem like the best option you have. Go for it. But be cautioned that PTSD and existential crisis is usually very strong with veterans.
Apr 20, 2016 2:22 AM
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If you want to be bossed around why not become a BDSM slave?
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Apr 20, 2016 2:28 AM
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I currently lack any or enough energy to reply to all these insightful comments, but I'm super appreciative for all of them, and have been taking sure account to all notes, thank you all. :)

Trance- said:
But be cautioned that PTSD and existential crisis is usually very strong with veterans.
Looks like I'll fit right in.

traed said:
If you want to be bossed around why not become a BDSM slave?
Life isn't so short-sighted, traed.

DawningFog said:
Question though, is the army really the way to achive that? You will be risking your life. You will be killing people. You will be doing whatever action the government decides. You would be doing drills every day, be carted off to dusty middle eastern countries, etc.
Truth is, that's the sort of treatment I'm looking for. I have an unconventional military background, by which I mean I was raised as a soldier for a cause related to my family. I've veered off track in recent years, and following down the path I am currently on, I'll be more fucked in the head by the time I'm 50 than any war trauma could possibly do to me.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:36 AM
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DawningFog said:
If it isnt too personal, may I ask, are you a masochist, at least emotionally so? (Not judging here, as I am one.)
Not at all. I'm actually rather sadistic.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
ask for discord server
Apr 20, 2016 2:43 AM

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traed said:
If you want to be bossed around why not become a BDSM slave?


Oh, I like the way you think :p. It could definitely bring more money than joining the army.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:46 AM

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Duskie said:
traed said:
If you want to be bossed around why not become a BDSM slave?
Life isn't so short-sighted, traed.


My dad was in the navy and I recall him talking about how people just passed time drinking cough syrup to get high.

One friend of mine convinced a friend of hers to join the military to escape his family and he did and hes been MIA presumed dead.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:47 AM

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traed said:
Duskie said:
Life isn't so short-sighted, traed.


My dad was in the navy and I recall him talking about how people just passed time drinking cough syrup to get high.

One friend of mine convinced a friend of hers to join the military to escape his family and he did and hes been MIA presumed dead.
That's cool.
I fail to see how that is relevant to me in any way.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:50 AM

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@Duskie

You literally asked for experiences on what to expect
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Apr 20, 2016 2:51 AM

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traed said:
@Duskie

You literally asked for experiences on what to expect
It sounds more like you're trying to explain to me why my idea to join the army is stupid or wrong.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:53 AM

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traed said:

My dad was in the navy and I recall him talking about how people just passed time drinking cough syrup to get high.


My grandparents were in the navy, real trouble makers lol one night my grandfather said he went drinking with some of the guys and woke up three days later on a Singapore street. Wasn't even the same country he's started drinking in lol
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@Duskie

It sounds more like you're not really looking for help but just want people to give you attention.
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Apr 20, 2016 2:56 AM

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traed said:
@Duskie

It sounds more like you're not really looking for help but just want people to give you attention.
That makes complete sense. I'm curious as to how you managed to get that impression, but okay.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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Apr 20, 2016 3:02 AM

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Duskie said:
That makes complete sense. I'm curious as to how you managed to get that impression, but okay.


Because you shat over what experiences I know of and disrespected someone that died "thats cool". I basically was just pointing out you should not expect the best only, not really expect the worst only either, but just you're better off not expecting anything but being prepared mentally for good and bad alike.

Spooks said:
My grandparents were in the navy, real trouble makers lol one night my grandfather said he went drinking with some of the guys and woke up three days later on a Singapore street. Wasn't even the same country he's started drinking in lol


lol thats great.
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Duskie said:
That makes complete sense. I'm curious as to how you managed to get that impression, but okay.


Because you shat over what experiences I know of and disrespected someone that died "thats cool". I basically was just pointing out you should not expect the best only, not really expect the worst only either, but just you're better off not expecting anything but being prepared mentally for good and bad alike.
I seem to have misunderstood you then. I thought you were branching off your first comment where you said being a masochist slave is a better idea, which has nothing to do with what I hope to gain. Although, it's not like I'm expecting the best out of anything. Like I said in my OP this was discussed heavily between myself and lots of people, some of who has been in the army their whole life. This is something I've had a lot of thought put into, so yeah.

Either way, sorry for misunderstanding and thanks for your insight.

A pair of eyes appear disguised,
I take flight and stay high in paradise,
With bad luck, snake eyes, a pair of dice.
I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
It's parallel, apparent hell of parasites.
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@Duskie
Although it was a joke my first comment was actually a subtle way of making you think about what it is that makes you want to join the military more and if it can or can not be obtained by other means. My comment after was a more serious answer to point out the more mundane or hazardous aspects since you did not like my joke and I do not know enough people who have been in the military to give a more detailed story. My sister has a friend who joined the military and she enjoyd her experience, I should note this girl was pretty tiny and id consider her pretty much im not sure the word for it soft? Like she was the kind of person youd never expect to join the military. I think it was hard on her but she did okay but I dont know her well so thast all I know of that.

Okay, thanks for apologizing.
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Nahh. There is nothing more annoying than someone giving you orders. I prefer starving.
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Not sure what country you're from.

Advice? Never... EVER skip breakfast, even if you're not a "breakfast" person. Cram as MUCH protein as you can into your face because it's going to be a hell of a day, even if you puke, (you shouldn't if you're physically fit enough)

I really don't like telling any stories.

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SmoothJazzDavis said:
Nahh. There is nothing more annoying than someone giving you orders. I prefer starving.


There's literally no difference between working in the military and working at McDonald's. I don't know why people say this sort of thing.
I don't know why you think you have any more personal freedom as a civilian to disobey when your paycheck at the end of the day is what keeps your children fed and a roof over your head LOL.

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Lothloran said:
SmoothJazzDavis said:
Nahh. There is nothing more annoying than someone giving you orders. I prefer starving.


There's literally no difference between working in the military and working at McDonald's. I don't know why people say this sort of thing.
I don't know why you think you have any more personal freedom as a civilian to disobey when your paycheck at the end of the day is what keeps your children fed and a roof over your head LOL.


That's why i don't work at McDonald either.
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Lothloran said:
SmoothJazzDavis said:
Nahh. There is nothing more annoying than someone giving you orders. I prefer starving.


I don't know why you think you have any more personal freedom as a civilian to disobey when your paycheck at the end of the day is what keeps your children fed and a roof over your head LOL.

............

Go tell that to Jim Morrison .
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If it isnt too personal, may I ask, are you a masochist, at least emotionally so? (Not judging here, as I am one.)
Not at all. I'm actually rather sadistic.


You're not going to get in to the army, even if you do manage to make it into basic, they weed out psychos and sadists like they're plague carriers.
That's a great way for ID-ten Tees to get fragged. In fact, I hope you do.

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SmoothJazzDavis said:
Lothloran said:


I don't know why you think you have any more personal freedom as a civilian to disobey when your paycheck at the end of the day is what keeps your children fed and a roof over your head LOL.

............

Go tell that to Jim Morrison .


You realize that trying to rationalize real life based on the circumstances of 0.000001% of the population is fundamentally skewed and not a very well adjusted way of looking at the world...

You basically just said "Getting rich is easy, just ask Bill Gates"


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Lothloran said:
Duskie said:
Not at all. I'm actually rather sadistic.


You're not going to get in to the army, even if you do manage to make it into basic, they weed out psychos and sadists like they're plague carriers.
That's a great way for ID-ten Tees to get fragged. In fact, I hope you do.
Being sexually a sadist, doesn't mean I'm a sicko.
I actually love people, and spend my life helping as many people as possible. I'm probably one of the softest people inside you'll ever meet, even if I have experienced hell more times than I care to count.
It's nice to hear what you think, though.
I've never hurt someone who didn't have it coming or didn't want to be hurt.

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Lothloran said:
SmoothJazzDavis said:

............

Go tell that to Jim Morrison .


You realize that trying to rationalize real life based on the circumstances of 0.000001% of the population is fundamentally skewed and not a very well adjusted way of looking at the world...

You basically just said "Getting rich is easy, just ask Bill Gates"



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Duskie said:
Lothloran said:


You're not going to get in to the army, even if you do manage to make it into basic, they weed out psychos and sadists like they're plague carriers.
That's a great way for ID-ten Tees to get fragged. In fact, I hope you do.
Being sexually a sadist, doesn't mean I'm a sicko.
I actually love people, and spend my life helping as many people as possible. I'm probably one of the softest people inside you'll ever meet, even if I have experienced hell more times than I care to count.
It's nice to hear what you think, though.
I've never hurt someone who didn't have it coming or didn't want to be hurt.


I retract what I said then. Although... from the context, it was hard to infer whether you meant emotionally or sexually sadistic.

That might pose a problem as well, there's one thing of avoiding shooting people you know are non-combatants
There's another thing to not pull the trigger when you should have.

Could you shoot a little girl? maybe 5 maybe 6? If she's holding a gun, you have to.

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SmoothJazzDavis said:
Lothloran said:


You realize that trying to rationalize real life based on the circumstances of 0.000001% of the population is fundamentally skewed and not a very well adjusted way of looking at the world...

You basically just said "Getting rich is easy, just ask Bill Gates"



You want freedom? Then go, come, and get it.

You don't pay your own bills yet do you? 1997 makes you 18. You still live at home, don't you?

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Could you shoot a little girl? maybe 5 maybe 6? If she's holding a gun, you have to.
If those are my orders.
No doubt I will hate myself for it.
But I will.

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My friend was also interested in joining the army, so i remember coming across this thread. Since you're from 'aussieland' I thought this might be more relevant, though you might have read it already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1gfls1/has_anyone_in_raustralia_been_in_the_army_im/
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Lothloran said:
SmoothJazzDavis said:


You want freedom? Then go, come, and get it.

You don't pay your own bills yet do you? 1997 makes you 18. You still live at home, don't you?



Sure. 19, to be right.

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Duskie said:
Lothloran said:
Could you shoot a little girl? maybe 5 maybe 6? If she's holding a gun, you have to.
If those are my orders.
No doubt I will hate myself for it.
But I will.


I don't understand what you mean by orders.
In a combat zone you don't have an officer yelling orders at everyone, maneuver warfare doesn't work like that, no combat works like that in general lol.

Lets say... the RoE states any and all people who are armed are to be considered combatants.. Or better yet, let's assume that word has passed from command that you are clear to engage unarmed targets suspected of spotting enemy mortars or spotting enemy fire.
Would you be able to make that judgement call, in the moment whether the guy you see is or isn't a threat.

better yet, could you hold your fire when the RoE states you're only clear to engage if you've been engaged on first. Lets say you know for a fact that the person in front of you is an enemy but he isn't shooting at you. Would you be able to let that person go.

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Lothloran said:
Duskie said:
If those are my orders.
No doubt I will hate myself for it.
But I will.


I don't understand what you mean by orders.
In a combat zone you don't have an officer yelling orders at everyone, maneuver warfare doesn't work like that, no combat works like that in general lol.

Lets say... the RoE states any and all people who are armed are to be considered combatants.. Or better yet, let's assume that word has passed from command that you are clear to engage unarmed targets suspected of spotting enemy mortars or spotting enemy fire.
Would you be able to make that judgement call, in the moment whether the guy you see is or isn't a threat.

better yet, could you hold your fire when the RoE states you're only clear to engage if you've been engaged on first. Lets say you know for a fact that the person in front of you is an enemy but he isn't shooting at you. Would you be able to let that person go.
Questions I will only be able to answer once I've had at least some experience in the army. As much as I'd love to say; "yeah, I could do that, no worries", that would make me feel and sound ignorant. I think potentially, I am definitely capable of doing those things. Practically though, I'd only have to find out.

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plebster said:
My friend was also interested in joining the army, so i remember coming across this thread. Since you're from 'aussieland' I thought this might be more relevant, though you might have read it already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1gfls1/has_anyone_in_raustralia_been_in_the_army_im/
Thanks for that, I'm currently reading through it.

Did your friend end up following through with his decision?

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I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
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Duskie said:
Lothloran said:


I don't understand what you mean by orders.
In a combat zone you don't have an officer yelling orders at everyone, maneuver warfare doesn't work like that, no combat works like that in general lol.

Lets say... the RoE states any and all people who are armed are to be considered combatants.. Or better yet, let's assume that word has passed from command that you are clear to engage unarmed targets suspected of spotting enemy mortars or spotting enemy fire.
Would you be able to make that judgement call, in the moment whether the guy you see is or isn't a threat.

better yet, could you hold your fire when the RoE states you're only clear to engage if you've been engaged on first. Lets say you know for a fact that the person in front of you is an enemy but he isn't shooting at you. Would you be able to let that person go.
Questions I will only be able to answer once I've had at least some experience in the army. As much as I'd love to say; "yeah, I could do that, no worries", that would make me feel and sound ignorant. I think potentially, I am definitely capable of doing those things. Practically though, I'd only have to find out.


Just remember that the end result of those decisions is what will impact whether you come home in the front or the back of the plane.

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Duskie said:
plebster said:
My friend was also interested in joining the army, so i remember coming across this thread. Since you're from 'aussieland' I thought this might be more relevant, though you might have read it already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1gfls1/has_anyone_in_raustralia_been_in_the_army_im/
Thanks for that, I'm currently reading through it.

Did your friend end up following through with his decision?


Nah, he bitched it. After he became more aware of the potential consequences and gave it more thought, he realised the army isn't for him.
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plebster said:
Duskie said:
Thanks for that, I'm currently reading through it.

Did your friend end up following through with his decision?


Nah, he bitched it. After he became more aware of the potential consequences and gave it more thought, he realised the army isn't for him.
Perhaps, he may be much more wise than I.

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I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
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You are doing the right thing op. I am going to return to the army myself, serving in the reserves.

I got enlisted in 2013 when I was 18.


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Well, if that's what you really want...
Not sure how it is there, honestly. It can be a good way to make a living here or a way to pay for university, though most people that join dont take advantage of that.
It doesn't make you more mature or anything, but it does help get you into shape. That's nice.

The idea of serving your country is nice, I guess.. Though serving the people in a more direct way is nicer.
Just make sure it's something you really want. Joining because you don't want to make decisions is an odd thing to say. Besides, it's not "black and white" anyway.

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@codephat I could have written a biography pertaining to my reasons for wanting to join the army, but there really isn't any reason to do so, I have my own, strictly personal reasons for taking this path. I only gave a brief outline here. But still, appreciate your input. :)

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I'm paralyzed, she speaks twice, a pair of lies,
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I've heard cadets have a fun "prank" they like to play called "the Arabs whip".
Basically they shit into a sock and then slap someone in the face with it...the army is probably not for everyone.
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In Australia you barely get shit and they yell at you like scum the vast majority of the time so yeah have fun with that.
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