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Aug 23, 2009 9:55 PM

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ColdBeans said:
Great ep, I was kinda annoyed with Suruga at first because I thought she was trying to steal Araragi from Senjougahara, but now I know that that was not the case ;)

In fact, she was trying to steal Senjougahara : O Kind of
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Oosran said:
ColdBeans said:
Great ep, I was kinda annoyed with Suruga at first because I thought she was trying to steal Araragi from Senjougahara, but now I know that that was not the case ;)

In fact, she was trying to steal Senjougahara : O Kind of

Do you think it had to do with her offering her virginity to him in exchange for letting him be with Senjougahara and if anything happened then she would tell Senjougahara about it? Should this happen Senjougahara would kill Araragi and Suruga although with that monkey hand, I think Suruga would KO Senjougahra.

I wonder other than a supposition why would Suruga offer herself to Araragi other than sabotage the relation between them.??? ?_?

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Belum_Nabum said:
Oosran said:
ColdBeans said:
Great ep, I was kinda annoyed with Suruga at first because I thought she was trying to steal Araragi from Senjougahara, but now I know that that was not the case ;)

In fact, she was trying to steal Senjougahara : O Kind of

Do you think it had to do with her offering her virginity to him in exchange for letting him be with Senjougahara and if anything happened then she would tell Senjougahara about it? Should this happen Senjougahara would kill Araragi and Suruga although with that monkey hand, I think Suruga would KO Senjougahra.

I wonder other than a supposition why would Suruga offer herself to Araragi other than sabotage the relation between them.??? ?_?

She'd do that so that Araragi wouldn't do anything to Senjougahara's "pure body" or something like that. That explains it for you?
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Oosran said:
Belum_Nabum said:
Oosran said:
ColdBeans said:
Great ep, I was kinda annoyed with Suruga at first because I thought she was trying to steal Araragi from Senjougahara, but now I know that that was not the case ;)

In fact, she was trying to steal Senjougahara : O Kind of

Do you think it had to do with her offering her virginity to him in exchange for letting him be with Senjougahara and if anything happened then she would tell Senjougahara about it? Should this happen Senjougahara would kill Araragi and Suruga although with that monkey hand, I think Suruga would KO Senjougahra.

I wonder other than a supposition why would Suruga offer herself to Araragi other than sabotage the relation between them.??? ?_?

She'd do that so that Araragi wouldn't do anything to Senjougahara's "pure body" or something like that. That explains it for you?

Yeah, I think that is logical indeed. Sacrificing one to get the purety of another. *nods*

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Free service for Koyomi, that made me laugh till I had a nosebleed.

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I wondered how less Araragi cared about nearly punched to death

"free service" what is she thinking
Kanbaru is no match for Senjougahara and not only because of her ugly mummy hand XD

I hope they solve this arc in the next ep and start the next arc with a less unattractive and more likeable girl.
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"I'm a lesbo"
I lol'd my ass off.

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That is very similar to some clips from the OP of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
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Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - Also a strange anime ^^
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Oosran said:
ColdBeans said:
Great ep, I was kinda annoyed with Suruga at first because I thought she was trying to steal Araragi from Senjougahara, but now I know that that was not the case ;)

In fact, she was trying to steal Senjougahara : O Kind of


Hmm, I'm glad I read this thread, I missed that angle.


Edit:

I don't know if this was intentional, but sports girl strikes me as a lampshade-hanging comment on art.

1. She is a totally unrealistic lesbian who is willing to go bicurious. That's male-oriented porn, not a realistic lesbian.

2. She says "Don't imagine you will find chaste girls - girls talk about sex." That is a double joke.
a - Senjougahara is in fact a chaste girl - she insists on strict monogamy.
b - Sports girl herself is a porn-fantasy bicurious pseudo-lesbian, not a realistic lesbian. Sexless people are far more common in reality than bicurious lesbians. So you have a totally unrealistic imaginary hyper-sexed character, saying that sexless chastity is an unrealistic imagining.
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the long wait has finally finished.. glad this show keeps on impressing a lot of people including me.. and i have a much better perspective at suruga now compared last time.. i didn't like her then..

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Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - Also a strange anime ^^

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - Also animated by Shaft ^^
Aug 24, 2009 7:38 AM
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2. She says "Don't imagine you will find chaste girls - girls talk about sex." That is a double joke.
a - Senjougahara is in fact a chaste girl - she insists on strict monogamy.
b - Sports girl herself is a porn-fantasy bicurious pseudo-lesbian, not a realistic lesbian. Sexless people are far more common in reality than bicurious lesbians. So you have a totally unrealistic imaginary hyper-sexed character, saying that sexless chastity is an unrealistic imagining.


First of all, she never said that. She said something on the line of " Don't think that you will find every girls chaste and even girls like to talk about dirty things from times to times"

And if you think she is pure porn-fantasy, then you are wrong. One of my female friend talk much more about sex than her, in public. She can discuss the flexibility of ***** with you. Oh, and she's a fujoshi as well, and into BL. Even though she's not into yuri, but I can guarantee you she talks more dirty than Kanbaru...
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And if you think she is pure porn-fantasy, then you are wrong. One of my female friend talk much more about sex than her, in public. She can discuss the flexibility of ***** with you.


I've met bicurious young women before. I didn't say that they're nonexistent.

But that sports girl is a very unrealistic character. Real-life lesbians and bi girls present real-life problems and challenges, and sports girl is a highly contrived, highly artificial fiction.
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That is very similar to some clips from the OP of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
No shit. Not the only similarity between the two anime.

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wakka9ca said:
formosan said:

2. She says "Don't imagine you will find chaste girls - girls talk about sex." That is a double joke.
a - Senjougahara is in fact a chaste girl - she insists on strict monogamy.
b - Sports girl herself is a porn-fantasy bicurious pseudo-lesbian, not a realistic lesbian. Sexless people are far more common in reality than bicurious lesbians. So you have a totally unrealistic imaginary hyper-sexed character, saying that sexless chastity is an unrealistic imagining.


First of all, she never said that. She said something on the line of " Don't think that you will find every girls chaste and even girls like to talk about dirty things from times to times"

And if you think she is pure porn-fantasy, then you are wrong. One of my female friend talk much more about sex than her, in public. She can discuss the flexibility of ***** with you. Oh, and she's a fujoshi as well, and into BL. Even though she's not into yuri, but I can guarantee you she talks more dirty than Kanbaru...

OH MAN Wakka! A girl like that if I were to meet....I don't think I would handle her very well. I think Japanese women have a shame of not talking about dirty things. That girl is Canadian or North American right?

BTW do send me a PM about then censors you put. About the bondage part I put in discussion, it seems to be a popular stree reliver in Japan right now. There was report about it Wakka.

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Shaun_K said:
That is very similar to some clips from the OP of Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
No shit. Not the only similarity between the two anime.

I also want to know why copy the other anime of some elements when there can be more original ones then there are now in this anime anyways. There was a report that Japan might be running out of ideas.....I wonder if this is one of the many other proofs like Haruhi being a K-ON copying possibility.

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I also want to know why copy the other anime of some elements when there can be more original ones then there are now in this anime anyways. There was a report that Japan might be running out of ideas.....I wonder if this is one of the many other proofs like Haruhi being a K-ON copying possibility.


I think it was meant to be obvious as a reference/cameo of the popular SZS.
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wakka9ca said:
Belum_Nabum said:

I also want to know why copy the other anime of some elements when there can be more original ones then there are now in this anime anyways. There was a report that Japan might be running out of ideas.....I wonder if this is one of the many other proofs like Haruhi being a K-ON copying possibility.


I think it was meant to be obvious as a reference/cameo of the popular SZS.

Indeed, I guess as long it fits, it can be ok. *nods and has nothing else to say to that*

Aug 24, 2009 11:11 AM
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Hum. Not my favourite episode that's for sure.
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A very good episode. I found myself laughing quite a bit. Don't know how I feel to this new girl. Wonder how things will turn out at the end of this one. Being that arm is really a devil's arm eating at her soul when she makes a wish. The parts with that arm were very creepy. I think I might have felt a chill.

Senjougahara's service is very nice indeed. Gotta Love her <3
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A very good episode. I found myself laughing quite a bit. Don't know how I feel to this new girl. Wonder how things will turn out at the end of this one. Being that arm is really a devil's arm eating at her soul when she makes a wish. The parts with that arm were very creepy. I think I might have felt a chill.

Senjougahara's service is very nice indeed. Gotta Love her <3
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Aug 25, 2009 1:27 AM

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That was the most disappointing and disgusting episode I've seen in a long time. How could they screw up such an awesome series in such a... lame way.

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Antanaru said:
That was the most disappointing and disgusting episode I've seen in a long time. How could they screw up such an awesome series in such a... lame way.

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Errr, this was one of my most favorite episodes yet.
What on earth was bad about it?

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Antanaru said:
That was the most disappointing and disgusting episode I've seen in a long time. How could they screw up such an awesome series in such a... lame way.

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lol so it wasn't only my opininion that this episode was not so good.
but it was only because I dislike Kanbaru.

well tastes are different
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Aug 25, 2009 6:02 AM

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Just an OK episode to give info and to finish the clincher of episode 6 :))
No Senjougahara most of the episode (only at the beginning) :D

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I'd say that this and episode 4 are my two favorites so far.
And I suppose 5 is kinda okay. Though overrated and I like episode 4 better.

Every other episode in the series has been kinda "meh" and mediocre for me.

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I must confess, Kanbaru doesn't seem like such an interesting character to me either. Hitagi is awesome and so is Mayoi, but I don't really get much out of Kanbaru. Maybe next episodes will make me think better of her.

As for this episode, the 'service' bit was funny (pretty sure the light was meant as some sort of artistic interpretation of the whole glory of the moment, combined with a train passing by). And his various expressions to Kanbaru's confession made me laugh.
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Someone vector that frame w/Arararagi's sisters.
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I hope there's an arc with shinobu :0
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this show is awesome, i love it.
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'The Monkey's Paw'... believe you me, that is one damn creepy story. Read it if you can, it'll take all of ten minutes. Here it is.
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'The Monkey's Paw'... believe you me, that is one damn creepy story. Read it if you can, it'll take all of ten minutes. Here it is.


Sorry but after the Monkey Paw parody on an old Simpsons Halloween episode, I can't take it seriously anymore and I don't want to ruin such a story with my own laughter. :(
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Interesting arc and as always I love the way the females in this series tease Araragi.
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Argh. I guess I have to wait for the next ep? Cliff Hangers. D:

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As we get deeper into Araragi's and Suruga's relationship, we realize the secret that is covered by the bandage - something which looks like a monkey paw, but in reality is a devil's hand, belonging to a devil that possessed Suruga.

A mix of horror, drama and comedy this episode is, using Bakemonogatari's trademark even more this time - symbolic images during conversations and other scenes, this time remarkable being the hand "transformations" when the two were talking at Suruga's house.

I guess we are getting another ritual from Oshino next time, this one to help Suruga with her possession. Something like an excorcism maybe? Haha.

8/10

PS. Not enough Senjougahara this time.
PS2. The ED has really grown on me, great tune.
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Anyone else get the same vibes from this show as a Quentin Tarantino movie? I mean, because of the long yet quite amusing dialogue. Not a bad thing at all. :)

now that you've mentioned it - definitely yes.
the dialogues and scenes with blood splashing everywhere (here actually tarantino took reference from japanese / asian movies, but anyway).


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A mix of horror, drama and comedy this episode is, using Bakemonogatari's trademark even more this time - symbolic images during conversations and other scenes, (...)


here, i can fix it. should be:
A mix of horror, drama and comedy this episode is, using SHAFT's trademark even more this time - symbolic images during conversations and other scenes, (...)

people, get over with it, it's SHAFT's anime. it's not really unique. it's just made in SHAFT's style. it's really not one of a kind, so if you like it this much, try digging sayonara zetsubou sensei or maria+holic.

and to make it straight: i don't wanna offend anyone and i'm not saying that bakemonogatari is bad. i'm just tired of people saying it's the only story animated with this style.
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having said what i wanted, i feel better now ^^
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shaft does have really a lot of shows this year:
3rd Zetsubou Senei + OVA
Bakemonogatari
Maria Holic
Natsu no Arashi season 1+2(coming out in oct.)

While they do have a few similarities, but each one definitely has its own style (I havent watched so much of Natsu no Arashi though) and if you talking about unique, Zetsubou must be in my opinion the most unique one of these.
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Hm hm..so she is a Lesbian..Lesbian jealousy can get you to a hospital
Sep 7, 2009 10:19 AM

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Good episode. I liked it. The whole thing about being a lesbian / in love with Senjougahara was so surprising, wasn't expecting it o.o
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Not the best episode bad still good. Senjougahara giving a pantie show to Araragi was her only appearance in this episode but it certainly was a strong one.
After that everything went rather usual. Araragi found another girl with a problem and as always he is helping out. Now we have to wait and see how they will get ridden of the demon.
Am still wondering why her room was filled with those books. And as a Declared lesbian what the hell was that proposal to Araragi about giving her body. She is more like a Senjougahara maniac than a lesbian.
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Is it bad that I like Suruga more than Senjougahara? She seems to have more personality, and a more interesting past.



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Is it bad that I like Suruga more than Senjougahara?
Yes : )
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It was interesting with the monkey's-not-monkey's paw and everthing but I think that Suruga's character is just thrown in there for some pointless fanservice...not that that's a bad thing or anything but come on! Lesbian, lolicon, yuri/yaoi fangirl, and talks dirty? It just doesn't seem right.....eh oh well

But this part was funny


It gave me a good laugh XD

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Boring episode is boring. New character. Boring and stupid.
Im hating Senjougahara EVEN MORE as I watch more Bakemonogatari. And Im also hating the series itself EVEN MORE. Then why the fuck am I still watching this shit? >_<

Also, good ending is good. It made me awake after sleeping with those nonesense talkshit earlier the episode. Also, Gainax rip-off if you know what I mean.
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Also, Gainax rip-off if you know what I mean.


I have no idea, but I'm quite curious. Would you mind explaining it? :3
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Senjoughara's 'favour'... XD

L-lol, did he just?...in her room?...
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Araragi's expression at Suruga's confession of her being a lesbo. PRICELESS!



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Senjougahara really know how to mend a guys wounds, upskirt pantsu FTW =P

So we now have an dirty talking, tomboy lesbian among the cast as well? Could be alot worse (^_^)

Though I am the only one who was really bugged by how good her arm was wrapped?
How tight must not that have been in order to press all that hair down and make her arm appear human, not to mention make her fingertips smaller^^
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Geez, things just keep getting weirder and weirder. It was surprising to find out who the assaulter was.
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woah .. to make a deal with a demon o_o


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I can't get this show at all!
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