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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Chinese raw is up. My chinese sucks, so I'll just put the overall summary. Once I get Japanese spoiler/raw, I'll put more details and correct for mistakes.

Edit: I've updated the translations.

Tachikawa team war room
- Yuiga doesn't want to do any fight if it's not team based. Having to lose 100 times from a B ranker tramples his pride. Izumi drags Yuiga anyway saying that someone with pride will not act like Yuiga. Yuiga asks for human rights organization to rescue him from Izumi's abuse over his feelings (LOL).
- Osamu vs Yuga: 8 vs. 2 in 10 matches. Yuiga starts bragging.
- Izumi tells Osamu that he should realize it's not easy to put what Arashiyama team has taught into practice, huh (wow, Izumi is surprisingly a good mentor). Anyway, 2 wins down, 98 more to go.
- Osamu ponders that Karasuma and Arashiyama were right: when he's concentrating on hitting, his movement becomes stiff. Though Yuiga compares poorly to the top fighters in some B ranked teams, so Osamu thinks that his win rate can increase if he can fix his movement deficiency.
- Osamu requests 10 more matches. Yuiga, who's in positive mood, tells Osamu that he'll help his junior.
- Osamu continues to wonder why Yuiga is an A rank.

Tamakoma
- Karasuma tells the team that Yuiga is the son of Border's biggest sponsor. When he joined, he asked A-rank team straight away. The upper echelon put him in Tachikawa's team, but it turns out to be different than he expects. (in the background, Izumi is bullying Yuiga).
- Yuuma sarcastically remarks that there's also "another way" to become A ranker. Karasuma says yes, if you want to be an A ranker in name only. Without real skill, it'll only be hard for you.

Tamakoma (11 Feb)
- Usami laments why Chika didn't tell her in advance that it's her birthday so she can plan a celebration.
- Chika is gloomy because she accidentally told Yuzuru that she cannot hit humans. Osamu reprimands her but it is something that other enemies can speculate from the records anyway. In particular, Yuuma thinks that Ninomiya must have noticed the similarities between Chika and Hatohara. Hatohara's mentor, Asuma, must have noticed too. (So all enemies know already)
- In the next match, the team will have to work harder to make sure Chika is well hidden because it'll be open season for Chika's blood now that enemies know that Chika cannot retaliate.
- Yuuma suggests that Chika shoots enemies when the enemies think that she cannot shoot. But Chika looks reluctant.
- Anyway, there's a lot of things to do. Map choosing right will be with other team. They need to research enemy teams' fighting styles, practice some basic teamwork, and improve individual skills.

Asuma war room
- Okudera and Koarai are debating strategy for the next match. Koarai thinks that they need to pick gimmicky map like Nasu team to beat B-1 and B-2.
- Okudera says that at the end, Nasu lost despite the map. Nasu team's strategy depended too much on luck in getting good spawning points. In a 4-way battle, the strategy has little chance of succeeding.
- Koarai thinks that they have little chance anyway.
- Okudera thinks that even if they win this match by a stroke of luck, the victory cannot be sustained.
- Mako stops them from fighting.
- Asuma asks them to put aside the disagreement for the time being and discuss their agreement. (Asuma seems very hands off, letting the team makes their own the strategy and giving only inputs.)
- Okudera and Koarai thinks that the next opponent teams all have ranged attackers. Compare this to their team, which only has one ranged attacker, Asuma. They need to select map that shuts down ranged attacks. Then their team, which has 2 attackers, will have advantage. The two intend to pick enemies one by one using combination attacks.
- Azuma smiles and says that's new. Usually the two fight over points.
- Azuma's line of sight will need heavy support from Mako, as he'll be disadvantaged too.
- Azuma asks what to do with Chika and Kitazoe, who don't care about landscape (whoa, hype, Kitazoe is as strong as Chika?). Okudera leaves this issue to Azuma.
- Azuma says he can handle the two but he requests non-gimmicky map (so Okudera wins the map debate).
- Now that the big picture strategy is set, next, they'll study the records. In particular, Tamakoma has little data. Then they'll study the map and note good places for attacks.
- Azuma reminds the 2 that "to win in strategy..." The two answers "you have to take into account the opponents ability to strategize"
- Happy with the answer, Azuma tells them to use the 4 days to make this battle into a "winnable battle."

Kageura Team's war room
- Kageura is watching Yuuma vs. Murakami record. Yuzuru and Kitazoe come in and are surprised at this sight saying that if Kageura watches records, then it might snow later. Kitazoe is particularly moved to tears.
- Yuzuru also wants to watch the records (shyly).

Tachikawa's war room (14 Feb, 1 day before the match)
- Osamu vs. Yuiga: 48 vs. 152. Izumi pities him and offer to lower the threshold to 50 wins.
- Osamu refuses. He realizes that even if he learns hybrid bullets now, he's not good enough to use them anyway. (Osamu has grown, I'm happy!) But the experience from fighting Yuiga has let Osamu learn how to hit with his bullets against opponents who are not too strong, so he's confident he'll be much more useful in the next round.

Rank battle day
- Commentator: Ayatsuji, Kazama, Kako. Kako gives valentine chocolates to the first two. Kazama immediately munches on his. (he looks so small compared to Kako)
- Map: City B, plenty of high and low buildings. Line of sight for ranged attacks is not good. Azuma team probably picks this map to make it easy to close in to enemies. Weather: snow, a lot of snow piling up already. Time: seems to be night.
- Ayatsuji wonders if this will be like Nasu team's strategy: changing weather setting and aim to divide the enemies.
- Kako says that Azuma is not a gambler, so it's unlikely.

Comments:
- Dat Man In Black uniform from Ninomiya's team. Man, his team uniform and team mates look as uptight as he is. Compare to B-2, Kageura's team, who looks like a bunch of misfits (cool misfits)
- Everyone in Asuma's team is in bagworm. I wonder what his plan is.
- Yuiga is annoying, but it's hard to hate him considering he looks and acts like a dork. Plus his overreaction whenever being treated like a butt monkey by his teammates is funny.
- It's clear that Azuma doesn't have much input on the strategy. He's letting his junior teammates decide and just gives input here and there. Being in the same team as Azuma must be nice.
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Jul 23, 2015 11:44 AM
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I can't tell if Ninomiya squad is ready for battle or if they are ready to perform their latest Boy Band single at a fancy party.
Jul 23, 2015 11:59 AM
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Valentine? LOL That's weird.

And FINALLY! The showdown is about to start. I'm highly anticipating this match to be the best one yet. I wonder what T-2nd has under their belt. And I'm highly anxious to see Kaguera and Ninomiya units' prowess.

Oh and thanks for this!
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Translation updated!!

Dues-aj said:
I can't tell if Ninomiya squad is ready for battle or if they are ready to perform their latest Boy Band single at a fancy party.


They are ready to kill without ruffling their trion suits, James Bond style, haha.

Chung2 said:
And I'm highly anxious to see Kaguera and Ninomiya units' prowess.


Based on the info, it seems that Kitazoe is a ranged attacker, though not sure if he's sniper or shooter. I can see Ninomiya's team being all ranged based, especially if he's mentoring the other 2.
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I'm eager to see the next cap.
i hope to see a decent improvement in Osamu's skills.
Do you guys think that this will be the ranking wars' final match?


How many caps do you guys think this battle will take?
I bet it'll be around 8.
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p-kun said:

- Osamu refuses. He realizes that even if he learns hybrid bullets now, he's not good enough to use them anyway.

This is exactly why i like this character alot. He is as ambitious as shounen MC should be, but at the same time he is not being unreasonable, like many shounen MC are.
p-kun said:
(Osamu has grown, I'm happy!) But the experience from fighting Yuiga has let Osamu learn how to hit with his bullets against opponents who are not too strong, so he's confident he'll be much more useful in the next round.

Hey, it was 24-0 + one draw/tie agains't A-ranker a couple of month's ago.
Sure, Yuiga is weaker then Kazama, but still, jumping from 0.5-to-24 ratio to almost 1-to-3, yeah, he sure has grown.
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Hey, it was 24-0 + one draw/tie agains't A-ranker a couple of month's ago.
Sure, Yuiga is weaker then Kazama, but still, jumping from 0.5-to-24 ratio to almost 1-to-3, yeah, he sure has grown.


I'm referring to the fact that Osamu is maturing enough to realize that it was dumb to prioritize hybrid bullets over basic training. I have been bitching for weeks about this stupidity, so I'm happy he has seen the light now.

About Osamu vs. Yuiga and Kazama. IMHO, (1) Kazama was taking it easy on him. After 20+ mind numbing victories, anyone will drop his guard. It's about consistency or as mentioned by Asuma's team in this chapter, victory sustainability. If Osamu can win 1 in 20+ matches, can Osamu win in another 1 in 20+ matches against Kazama? I don't think so if Kazama is on guard, so that win rate is overestimated. But with Yuiga, Osamu wins with 20% rate and increases this to 25% rate in 1 week. (2) Unlike the match with Kazama, Osamu vs. Yuiga has terrain features. With Osamu's sucky basic movement, there's more problems that he has to take into account. Also, it doesn't seem to be set with unlimited trion mode, so Osamu has his limited trion to worry with. This should give Osamu plenty of exp.
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p-kun said:
I'm referring to the fact that Osamu is maturing enough to realize that it was dumb to prioritize hybrid bullets over basic training. I have been bitching for weeks about this stupidity, so I'm happy he has seen the light now.

Ah-ha... Well, i feel mostly the same in that regards, it would've been very disappointing if he decided otherwise.
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Translation updated!!

Dues-aj said:
I can't tell if Ninomiya squad is ready for battle or if they are ready to perform their latest Boy Band single at a fancy party.


They are ready to kill without ruffling their trion suits, James Bond style, haha.

Chung2 said:
And I'm highly anxious to see Kaguera and Ninomiya units' prowess.


Based on the info, it seems that Kitazoe is a ranged attacker, though not sure if he's sniper or shooter. I can see Ninomiya's team being all ranged based, especially if he's mentoring the other 2.
Kaguera unit more or less has a similar formation to T-2nd then eh?
An all sniper/shooter team? That sounds weird somehow. I wonder what tactics they'll apply.

Oh and I like how Osamu has grown. Getting those 2 wins against an A-rank like Yuiga lol (even though from what you've said, he's weaker than some Bs) XD and YAY finally that no to hybrid bullets, I like how mangaka is writing him tbh

Chika needs to grow some balls or something. These are trion bodies, so she's not gonna physically hurt anyone anyway if she shoots. Dislike dislike >.>
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Chika needs to grow some balls or something. These are trion bodies, so she's not gonna physically hurt anyone anyway if she shoots. Dislike dislike >.>


I sympathize with her. Trion bodies look so much like normal bodies and her power is big enough that she can disintegrate anyone she hits. Of course in simulation room like where the rank battles are held, there's less excuse for Chika, but still, she's 13 or 14, so I give her a slack if she's not mentally ready.
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*no birthday party with giant cake for Chika-chan*
LIFE SUCKS!!!

*Osamu/Yuuma got no chocolate whatsoever on valentine's day*
LIFE SUCKS EVEN MORE!!!

Dues-aj said:
I can't tell if Ninomiya squad is ready for battle or if they are ready to perform their latest Boy Band single at a fancy party.


Thanks to your comment, life got a little better. XDDD
Now imagien plain hatohara in that amazingly good looking boy band looking all out of place there. xD
I bet the real reason why she betrayed Border was to get away from the jealous girls/women who could not get over that she's in the same team as those three bishies.^^

Hope we gonna see Osamu's growth in this match aka how he will move better in this snow terrain than compared to the match before.

Looks like we gotta have to wait for Chika to get the resolve to shoot people yet, probably after their lose she might realize that she will only be more of a burden than a help if she doesn't try to even aim directly at their opponents.
I kinda have the feeling that Yuzuru will kill somebody who tried to kill Chika and then shoot her when she looks in his direction where his snipershot came from.
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It's kind of funny that in the Kageura room, they say, "if Kage is watching logs, then maybe it'll snow later," and then they get to the battle and it is snowing. I see what you did there, Mr. Ashihara.
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p-kun said:
Based on the info, it seems that Kitazoe is a ranged attacker, though not sure if he's sniper or shooter.


In Chapter 108, Ko and Yuma discuss Kageura squad. Ko says Kageura is a "balance" squad with an attacker, shooter, and sniper. Since Kage is an attacker and Yuzuru is a sniper, Kitazoe must be a shooter by default.


...so excited for this battle. I'm thinking Ninomiya will become Mikumo's rival since they are both shooters and they have similar goals (they both want to become an away-squad to look for one of the disappeared.) Ninomiya is also really strong. I think he's in the top five for overall solo (Near Kazama, Tachikawa, and Toma). I'm hoping for a shooter fight between the two.

The perfect outcome for this fight would be Kage versus Yuma, and Mikumo versus Ninomiya. It'd be even better if instead of taking of the point himself, Mikumoe traps Ninomiya into a position where Chika takes him out, proving that she can take out people.
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SundanceAnn said:
p-kun said:
Based on the info, it seems that Kitazoe is a ranged attacker, though not sure if he's sniper or shooter.


In Chapter 108, Ko and Yuma discuss Kageura squad. Ko says Kageura is a "balance" squad with an attacker, shooter, and sniper. Since Kage is an attacker and Yuzuru is a sniper, Kitazoe must be a shooter by default.


...so excited for this battle. I'm thinking Ninomiya will become Mikumo's rival since they are both shooters and they have similar goals (they both want to become an away-squad to look for one of the disappeared.) Ninomiya is also really strong. I think he's in the top five for overall solo (Near Kazama, Tachikawa, and Toma). I'm hoping for a shooter fight between the two.

The perfect outcome for this fight would be Kage versus Yuma, and Mikumo versus Ninomiya. It'd be even better if instead of taking of the point himself, Mikumoe traps Ninomiya into a position where Chika takes him out, proving that she can take out people.

Chika will need to be vigilant of the far more experienced snipers Azuma and Yuzuru
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SundanceAnn said:
It's kind of funny that in the Kageura room, they say, "if Kage is watching logs, then maybe it'll snow later," and then they get to the battle and it is snowing. I see what you did there, Mr. Ashihara.

i second that ^_^
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I do wonder if Kageura's side effect is going to mean that Osamu is like kryptonite to him. Since Kei Tachikawa already said "Feelings don't influence a battle, if they did, I wouldn't be number one", I wonder how Kageura is going to handle him.

Azuma squad all in bagworms, and Osamu's just been taught how to break through bagworms? ;)
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SundanceAnn said:
p-kun said:
Based on the info, it seems that Kitazoe is a ranged attacker, though not sure if he's sniper or shooter.


In Chapter 108, Ko and Yuma discuss Kageura squad. Ko says Kageura is a "balance" squad with an attacker, shooter, and sniper. Since Kage is an attacker and Yuzuru is a sniper, Kitazoe must be a shooter by default.


To be even more specific, it looks like Kitazoe is a gunner. The image in 108 shows a sniper, gunner, and attacker. If I remember correctly, they always give shooter figures the trion cube image, so I guess they specified that Kitazoe is a gunner? And it looks like the shotgun/machine gun type?

I'm really interested in Ninomiya's team, who we know nothing about other than their captain being no.1 shooter and ranking high on solo as well. And their uniform lol it stands out so much against all the other teams??
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SundanceAnn said:


In Chapter 108, Ko and Yuma discuss Kageura squad. Ko says Kageura is a "balance" squad with an attacker, shooter, and sniper. Since Kage is an attacker and Yuzuru is a sniper, Kitazoe must be a shooter by default.


To be even more specific, it looks like Kitazoe is a gunner. The image in 108 shows a sniper, gunner, and attacker. If I remember correctly, they always give shooter figures the trion cube image, so I guess they specified that Kitazoe is a gunner? And it looks like the shotgun/machine gun type?



I think you're right. Sorry, I guess I read it too fast. It doesn't say shooter or gunner by name, but it looks like guns. Reiji had a machine-like gun in the Invasion Arc, might be like that.

In the translation, it says that "Chika and Kitazoe don't care about landscape", which would make a gunner seem like more sense. I hope he has a big gun and Chika-sized trion. That'd make for a good battle.
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SundanceAnn said:
LeiteDestiny said:


To be even more specific, it looks like Kitazoe is a gunner. The image in 108 shows a sniper, gunner, and attacker. If I remember correctly, they always give shooter figures the trion cube image, so I guess they specified that Kitazoe is a gunner? And it looks like the shotgun/machine gun type?



I think you're right. Sorry, I guess I read it too fast. It doesn't say shooter or gunner by name, but it looks like guns. Reiji had a machine-like gun in the Invasion Arc, might be like that.

In the translation, it says that "Chika and Kitazoe don't care about landscape", which would make a gunner seem like more sense. I hope he has a big gun and Chika-sized trion. That'd make for a good battle.

He probably spams meteor
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Osamu's record against Yuiga is terrible. Yuigas level is only lower B Rank like Osamu so it should be more even. Really worried about Tamakoma 2... Osamu is weak and Chika can't shoot people, it seems Yuma has to carry this team once again. (◕︿◕✿)
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Dues-aj said:

He probably spams meteor


Lol this sounds accurate. I highly doubt there is anyone with trion levels as high as Chika does. I'm sure there are high levels, but Chika is supposed to be a monster of her own in terms of trion levels, right? So he probably just has a pretty good level. Like they said earlier, trion levels show more obviously in gunner types since they take a little more trion for their bullets.
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Osamu's record against Yuiga is terrible. Yuigas level is only lower B Rank like Osamu so it should be more even. Really worried about Tamakoma 2... Osamu is weak and Chika can't shoot people, it seems Yuma has to carry this team once again. (◕︿◕✿)


I think Yuiga level is in the middle B rank strengh level... Being said that the "Aces" from top B rank are strong as an A rank average member.
And for Osamu who is weak like C rank level, this record is quite an improvement.
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Moor_Progenitor9 said:
Osamu's record against Yuiga is terrible. Yuigas level is only lower B Rank like Osamu so it should be more even. Really worried about Tamakoma 2... Osamu is weak and Chika can't shoot people, it seems Yuma has to carry this team once again. (◕︿◕✿)


I think Yuiga level is in the middle B rank strengh level... Being said that the "Aces" from top B rank are strong as an A rank average member.
And for Osamu who is weak like C rank level, this record is quite an improvement.

Osamu even said himself this chapter that he improved his skills and hopefully be more help in the next battle
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Dues-aj said:
pablomc said:


I think Yuiga level is in the middle B rank strengh level... Being said that the "Aces" from top B rank are strong as an A rank average member.
And for Osamu who is weak like C rank level, this record is quite an improvement.

Osamu even said himself this chapter that he improved his skills and hopefully be more help in the next battle
Osamu Obviously won't score any points in this battle Azuma-san will wreak havoc on Tamakoma-2 Chika is their MEAT.
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Moor_Progenitor9 said:
Dues-aj said:

Osamu even said himself this chapter that he improved his skills and hopefully be more help in the next battle
Osamu Obviously won't score any points in this battle Azuma-san will wreak havoc on Tamakoma-2 Chika is their MEAT.


Maybe if the other teams underestimate Osamu and Chika...tamakoma 2 may have a slight chance to win.
I think if the mangaka doesn't find a way for them to go to the neighbour world, it will be like shooting his own foot, since he needs more readers and make the manga more popular if he wants to stay longer in Jump.
Recently, World Trigger only gets bottom rank in the Jump's TOC, even if it sells well now ( the anime is helping a lot), It needs to raise its popularity to stay more than the next year in the magazine.
I hope that the mangaka will make world trigger more appeling to go for a long run, this story has so many possibilities. :D
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pablomc said:
Moor_Progenitor9 said:
Osamu Obviously won't score any points in this battle Azuma-san will wreak havoc on Tamakoma-2 Chika is their MEAT.


Maybe if the other teams underestimate Osamu and Chika...tamakoma 2 may have a slight chance to win.
I think if the mangaka doesn't find a way for them to go to the neighbour world, it will be like shooting his own foot, since he needs more readers and make the manga more popular if he wants to stay longer in Jump.
Recently, World Trigger only gets bottom rank in the Jump's TOC, even if it sells well now ( the anime is helping a lot), It needs to raise its popularity to stay more than the next year in the magazine.
I hope that the mangaka will make world trigger more appeling to go for a long run, this story has so many possibilities. :D

I wouldn't worry about it too much. World Trigger may fluctuate but it manages to land in the middle most of the time. And it does have its occasional high ranking.
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Recently, World Trigger only gets bottom rank in the Jump's TOC, even if it sells well now ( the anime is helping a lot), It needs to raise its popularity to stay more than the next year in the magazine.
I hope that the mangaka will make world trigger more appeling to go for a long run, this story has so many possibilities. :D
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Oh, recently the rankings for WT aren't accurate. If you check out Chippokenabokura's tumblr (the username(dot)tumblr(dot)com), you can find a post explaining that due to Ashihara's medical issue, the rankings for WT will be put in the bottom. It doesn't actually show the ranking of the chapters, but it's just in the back due to his medical issue. That's also why we've been getting several "no chapters next week"; due to the medical problem he has in his neck/spine.
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LeiteDestiny said:
Dues-aj said:

He probably spams meteor


Lol this sounds accurate. I highly doubt there is anyone with trion levels as high as Chika does. I'm sure there are high levels, but Chika is supposed to be a monster of her own in terms of trion levels, right? So he probably just has a pretty good level. Like they said earlier, trion levels show more obviously in gunner types since they take a little more trion for their bullets.
I think a good question would be how the hell did Chika get that monstrous trion reserve? LOL
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LeiteDestiny said:


Lol this sounds accurate. I highly doubt there is anyone with trion levels as high as Chika does. I'm sure there are high levels, but Chika is supposed to be a monster of her own in terms of trion levels, right? So he probably just has a pretty good level. Like they said earlier, trion levels show more obviously in gunner types since they take a little more trion for their bullets.
I think a good question would be how the hell did Chika get that monstrous trion reserve? LOL


Usually in shonen mangas, short stature characters have something to compensate their lack in height, in Chika's case is her monstrous trion reserve... hahahaha

I've seen some spoilers for cap 111, i'm eager to read this next chapter.... it's a pity that we will need to wait 2 months to see the development of this fight... Most of you guys believe that this fight will be an one side extermination against Tamakoma 2.
However, I'm quite confident that Ashihara-sensei will surprise all of us.
GO Tamakoma 2, Do not disappoint us.

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