| Hello! SO my question is, who would win this fight, IF both of them would go with they full power. And by full power i mean that Gilagamesh's arrogance is gone aswell, and he takes the fight seriously. (Because so far thats the only reason he lost any fight:) ) Regards. In my opinion Gilgamesh would win, because he got a wide variety of weapons, chains, armors, and EA is just crazy powerful, why Archer can only create normal swords. So if Gil takes the fight seriously he could cut off Archer in a second. Thats my opinion, im interested in others opinions too :) |
| didnt gligamesh lost to archer already? no? |
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SkullProX said: And by full power i mean that Gilagamesh's arrogance is gone aswell, and he takes the fight seriously. Gil roflstomps him. |
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WrongPriest said: If Archer can get him inside UBW he can win, if he doesn't he'll probably lose in the long run. Ea. |
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Aeldrian said: didnt gligamesh lost to archer already? no? Yeah, but if you would read my post i said, if both would fight on full power :) |
| The moment Gilgamesh uses Ea the fight is over. |
WrongPriest said: antonn said: Ea. He has to set up for Ea, you can't do that when you're being sword rain'd. Look, getting Gil to blindly assault Rho aids while you chant a 10 count spell is hard enough, I'm just saying that inside UBW he can stand a chance. Yes, it MIGHT be a chance for Archer, but Gilgamesh got plents of defensive NP's which he could set up, then he could cast EA, cant he? My knowledge about this universe is not that much, so im rather asking than stating this |
SkullProX said: You mean we ignore Gil's arrogance and he doesn't underestimate his opponent?Aeldrian said: didnt gligamesh lost to archer already? no? Yeah, but if you would read my post i said, if both would fight on full power :) Well, obviously Gilgamesh. That's a no-brainer. |
| Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. |
SkullProX said: WrongPriest said: He has to set up for Ea, you can't do that when you're being sword rain'd. Look, getting Gil to blindly assault Rho aids while you chant a 10 count spell is hard enough, I'm just saying that inside UBW he can stand a chance. Yes, it MIGHT be a chance for Archer, but Gilgamesh got plents of defensive NP's which he could set up, then he could cast EA, cant he? My knowledge about this universe is not that much, so im rather asking than stating this Inside UBW unless Gil pulls out EA,he is f**cked..UBW is the absolute counter to GOB,Gil's noble phantasm. Though Ea needs time to charge. Going by his personality ,he will not take it seriously.If that happens and UBW is cast,,Archer wins. If Gil is serious,then its a no brainer..Gil wins |
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ProphecyPriest said: Gil vs TYPEs. Discuss.Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. |
CapsuleCore said: SkullProX said: You mean we ignore Gil's arrogance and he doesn't underestimate his opponent?Yeah, but if you would read my post i said, if both would fight on full power :) Well, obviously Gilgamesh. That's a no-brainer. ProphecyPriest said: Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. Yes, i meant that :) Okay that answered my question thanks :D |
laidellent said: SkullProX said: Yes, it MIGHT be a chance for Archer, but Gilgamesh got plents of defensive NP's which he could set up, then he could cast EA, cant he? My knowledge about this universe is not that much, so im rather asking than stating this Inside UBW unless Gil pulls out EA,he is f**cked..UBW is the absolute counter to GOB,Gil's noble phantasm. Though Ea needs time to charge. Yes, but he might have other defensive items, like his armor, which could defend against UBW? |
| Actually, if this thread is not locked immediately TC might want to spoilertag the title because of the upcoming episodes. Just my two cents. CapsuleCore said: ProphecyPriest said: Gil vs TYPEs. Discuss.Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. Hahaha not enough Notes info for powerlevels debate lol |
SkullProX said: laidellent said: Inside UBW unless Gil pulls out EA,he is f**cked..UBW is the absolute counter to GOB,Gil's noble phantasm. Though Ea needs time to charge. Yes, but he might have other defensive items, like his armor, which could defend against UBW? I edited my post but UBW is not about swords,he has axes and other shit as well.Its pretty much limitless,heck even Archer himself doesn't completely know about all the weapons in his RM.So,he must have something to counter that armor though yeah,it will give Gil some time for sure(if he wears it in the first place) |
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CapsuleCore said: ProphecyPriest said: Gil vs TYPEs. Discuss.Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. Since Earth doesn't have one...30% Arc vs Gil counts? |
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WrongPriest said: antonn said: Ea. He has to set up for Ea, you can't do that when you're being sword rain'd. Look, getting Gil to blindly assault Rho aids while you chant a 10 count spell is hard enough, I'm just saying that inside UBW he can stand a chance. Doing that against some human kid does not mean he'll do it against a heroic spirit instead of increasing the barrage when he senses the build up of power and destroying Aias and filling Archer full of holes, even more so since he's supposed to be completely serious. |
ProphecyPriest said: Versus anything else in Nasuverse, Gilgamesh that actually takes his opponent seriously always wins. Fate/trufact. This thread is useless. Yeah nah |
WrongPriest said: He could for instance put on his armor. Go up in the air with a device like Vimana, use Enkidu. Seriously, Gil panics in that fight. He took Shirou seriously when it was too late.So you mean to say that when Shirou was 12 inches away from his face, pushing back GoB with waves of swords and about to remove his dominant arm he "still wasn't taking the fight seriously"? Fuck off. In the 5th HGW, UBW is a death sentence for Gil. I don't care what he could possibly ("you can't prove he doesn't have an anti time reversal NP in GoB hur dur" pull out of his ass. |
| By the way, Archer can create other weapons and armours as well, so long as they're close combat oriented. |
Yhneiil said: Remember that Archer can copy almost anything, except for weapons like Ea. So his weaponry is not only limited to swords. I wonder though, in Archer's prime can he rain down Excaliburs unto his enemies? or can he only make one copy at a time? He can't copy Excalibur lol because its based on Fae magic aka non-human magic.Same goes with Ea. |
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Yhneiil said: Remember that Archer can copy almost anything, except for weapons like Ea. So his weaponry is not only limited to swords. I wonder though, in Archer's prime can he rain down Excaliburs unto his enemies? or can he only make one copy at a time? He can't copy Excalibur anyway. |
CapsuleCore said: WrongPriest said: So you mean to say that when Shirou was 12 inches away from his face, pushing back GoB with waves of swords and about to remove his dominant arm he "still wasn't taking the fight seriously"? Fuck off. In the 5th HGW, UBW is a death sentence for Gil. I don't care what he could possibly ("you can't prove he doesn't have an anti time reversal NP in GoB hur dur" pull out of his ass. Seriously, Gil panics in that fight. He took Shirou seriously when it was too late. This. By the time he was about to take him seriously, it's already too late and his fate was already decided. |
| He can pull out a nuclear missile discuss Yhneiil said: Shirou copied it in Fate route and Archer mentioned it this season, despite having the lack of mana he said he can copy Excalibur, though he didn't use because he would vanish soon after. Shirou projects Caliburn, Archer says a lot of things that are not true, he can only create |
Insertanamehere said: He can pull out a nuclear missile discuss Cadabolg II is one though |
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| Okay i just researched a bit, type-moon itself stated that a serious Gilgamesh cant be defeated by anyone in the nasuverse. |
SkullProX said: Okay i just researched a bit, type-moon itself stated that a serious Gilgamesh cant be defeated by any servant in the nasuverse. FTFY Gil isn't even close to being the strongest character in Nasuverse lol |
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Yhneiil said: Oh, okay. Can you explain the difference to me? I'm a bit confused. ''Projection'' and ''Copying'' I meant projection when I said copying, my point was Caliburn=/=Excalibur. |
WrongPriest said: Also. SkullProX said: I mean that Gilagamesh's arrogance is gone aswell, and he takes the fight seriously. That like having a lucky Cu, or a Diurmund that isn't manwhore. That's not Gil. See; Strange/Fake and CCC |
| Lancer would win in a straight fight against Rider anyway, though. And it works in both without being boring, so that is objectively not true. All you need is an opponent who would not be rekt when he goes serious. |
| doesn't the fact that Gil has all the original NPs instead of the fake ones that archa has gives Gil the advantage, and also isnt it established from the start that his ONLY weakness is probably taking his opponents lightly. i mean dis ass hole has pulled so many NPs that its ridiculous to think he can actually loose in an all out fight. also for the guys that are saying Enkaidu, isnt its power limited to binding GODS/demi-gods, i mean wouldn't it work as a normal chain if used against a normal human/mage ?? |
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ZA_WAYD said: doesn't the fact that Gil has all the original NPs instead of the fake ones that archa has gives Gil the advantage, and also isnt it established from the start that his ONLY weakness is probably taking his opponents lightly. i mean dis ass hole has pulled so many NPs that its ridiculous to think he can actually loose in an all out fight. also for the guys that are saying Enkaidu, isnt its power limited to binding GODS/demi-gods, i mean wouldn't it work as a normal chain if used against a normal human/mage ?? Enkidu works only for those with high divinity.So its not gonna work on someone like Archer. Yes,but the idea is not to overpower him but rather deflect the rain of swords that you get from GOB.Archer's weapons are a rank down but still they are good enough to deflect Gil's swords.Plus,the rate of sword spamming in UBW is greater as Gil has to take out his weapons from GOB while in UBW,its already lying there.So,Archer can overwhelm Gil in sword spamming not overpower. |
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FakePriest said: laidellent said: Enkidu works only for those with high divinity.So its not gonna work on someone like Archer. Enkidu does actually work on people with no Divinity at all though the higher the Divinity the stronger the chains are. Even without any Divinity the chains are still strong. Its just a minor nuisance for them though,they can break out of it. |
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laidellent said: FakePriest said: Enkidu does actually work on people with no Divinity at all though the higher the Divinity the stronger the chains are. Even without any Divinity the chains are still strong. Its just a minor nuisance for them though,they can break out of it. I doubt Shirou could, in any case. |
| imo gilgamesh would win |
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Insertanamehere said: laidellent said: Its just a minor nuisance for them though,they can break out of it. I doubt Shirou could, in any case. Shirou...idk Archer..yes |
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Insertanamehere said: I doubt Shirou could, in any case. It would have to reach him in the first place. |
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laidellent said: Shirou...idk Archer..yes With his shitty strength stats, you never know. Grey-Zone said: Insertanamehere said: I doubt Shirou could, in any case. It would have to reach him in the first place. Why wouldn't it reach him? |
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