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May 25, 2015 1:29 PM
#1
In lieu of a recently locked thread, a small discussion cropped up regarding a cap on the amount of threads a user can make. One user suggested that instead of a cap, users ought to be banned from making threads if it's that bad. I think a cap would end up making people think carefully before making any thread... Considering the quality of topics lately, maybe its what this forum needs. Do you think a cap should be introduced? Please discuss as to why you think it should/shouldn't. |
May 25, 2015 1:30 PM
#2
If I can get my quote on this matter hold on... OK I can't find it. A thread posting cap is necessary because in my opinion posting threads multiple times a day with no clear intention why is just spam to me. If spam is against the rules, then why isn't excessive thread making? Sense is lacking. |
May 25, 2015 1:31 PM
#4
Maybe but only limitation on daily level not week or month level that should do it i dont find anyting wrong with that possibility. Normal users would not see much of a change, and spammers would be more under control. Like 5-10- 15 threads per day limit would be fine. |
ExowaveMay 25, 2015 1:36 PM
May 25, 2015 1:31 PM
#5
Yes it should becz some of Malers are gay. |
May 25, 2015 1:32 PM
#6
No, bans are good enough. Also, consider club admins who have to make threads for their clubs. |
May 25, 2015 1:32 PM
#7
What should be considered when setting up a cap? Will user behavior affect the cap at all and if so how do we define that behavior and it's correlation with increase or decrease of thread cap. |
May 25, 2015 1:33 PM
#8
CliqProfil4Nudes said: This belongs in the suggestions thread smh I was thinking about that but I wasn't entirely sure since I was just asking the users their thoughts and not trying to put forward a suggestion. I did say "maybe" it's what the forum needs. But thanks for pointing that out. |
May 25, 2015 1:34 PM
#9
May 25, 2015 1:34 PM
#10
Caps should be introduced because it will encourages quality over quantity. We've seen this happen a lot with certain users who prefer to post low-effort threads. |
May 25, 2015 1:35 PM
#11
Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? I'm sure there are plenty of forums out there just as big as MAL that would welcome you with open arms.. Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. |
MstrCSenpaiMay 25, 2015 1:41 PM
May 25, 2015 1:35 PM
#12
Astros said: What should be considered when setting up a cap? Will user behavior affect the cap at all and if so how do we define that behavior and it's correlation with increase or decrease of thread cap. More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. |
May 25, 2015 1:35 PM
#13
Nah. I like the freedom. Besides, MAL would probably turn into a boring homepage. |
May 25, 2015 1:35 PM
#14
But muh subjectivity. I think the regular bans are enough. It's all a matter of being aware and sitting the fuck down. |
May 25, 2015 1:36 PM
#15
lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. Because it's spam. And spam is against the rules here. How thread making in mass amounts without clear intention does not count as spam is bewildering. |
May 25, 2015 1:36 PM
#16
lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. "Why don't you just leave MAL" Good question. Remind me not to defend you again when someone makes a thread telling you to fuck off. |
May 25, 2015 1:37 PM
#17
no i dont agree, users can just i dunno, ignore threads they dont like ??!! mainly because, some users have good threads but will be blocked by the cap, and thats not fair in any case. just use your fregin ignore button, its there for a reason u know .... besides that locked thread had SALT written all over it and i tend to NOT take into consideration salty user's opinions on any matter, mainly because they are unable of being UNbiased. |
May 25, 2015 1:37 PM
#18
manimesuki said: Nah. I like the freedom. Besides, MAL would probably turn into a boring homepage. How would 10-15 threads created per user a day would turn site into boring homepage. Since there are so many users after all. |
May 25, 2015 1:37 PM
#19
terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? what about club admins who have to make lots of threads? The list goes on. A better idea would be to be able to ban a user from making threads altogether. |
May 25, 2015 1:37 PM
#20
Roth said: And that's the problem with these attention whores who spam multiple pointless threads a day. They either don't realize that they're doing nothing more than spamming or simply don't care because they're happy with the attention that they get.But muh subjectivity. I think the regular bans are enough. It's all a matter of being aware and sitting the fuck down. |
May 25, 2015 1:38 PM
#21
KingOfDespair said: Nicoreos said: lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. Because it's spam. And spam is against the rules. If someone makes 10 good quality threads it's not spam Technically yes. Although let's not rule out that for the most part, threads aren't entirely serious here. So you might want to keep an eye open. |
May 25, 2015 1:38 PM
#22
JD2411 said: terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? . Nobody responds in series diskussions if series is that old or rarely. Club members would get their own treatment without limit for club threads, there problem solved. |
May 25, 2015 1:38 PM
#23
Nicoreos said: Elaborate, also my comment earlier about keyboard warriors wasn't aimed at you more the sentence you used.More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. |
May 25, 2015 1:39 PM
#24
Exowave said: that's irrelevant to my point.JD2411 said: terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? . Nobody responds in series diskussions or rarely. |
May 25, 2015 1:39 PM
#25
JD2411 said: what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? stark700 lmao. he makes threads for every single episode ;) Gholy said: Roth said: And that's the problem with these attention whores who spam multiple pointless threads a day. They either don't realize that they're doing nothing more than spamming or simply don't care because they're happy with the attention that they get.But muh subjectivity. I think the regular bans are enough. It's all a matter of being aware and sitting the fuck down. ignore them |
May 25, 2015 1:39 PM
#26
JD2411 said: terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? what about club admins who have to make lots of threads? The list goes on. A better idea would be to be able to ban a user from making threads altogether. Those threads aren't spam/troll threads looking to get reactions out of others. Threads made by those in CD in the past in present who would not stop had that as their clear intention. I don't think you know how MAL works. |
May 25, 2015 1:39 PM
#27
Exowave said: Nobody responds in series diskussions or rarely. I make series discussion threads all the time for manga series that are "obscure". |
May 25, 2015 1:40 PM
#28
mayukachan said: [/b]JD2411 said: what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? stark700 lmao. he makes threads for every single episode ;) Gholy said: [b]Roth said: But muh subjectivity. I think the regular bans are enough. It's all a matter of being aware and sitting the fuck down. ignore them they cant, the salt is 2 tronnkk 4 them sometimes |
May 25, 2015 1:41 PM
#29
Nicoreos said: lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. Because it's spam. And spam is against the rules here. How thread making in mass amounts without clear intention does not count as spam is bewildering. Well its your opinion that my threads are spam. Otherwise mods would have deleted them and/or banned me. And besides, those are some threads I created days/weeks ago. Not my problem if they get bumped by other people too often. |
May 25, 2015 1:41 PM
#30
Nicoreos said: the OP suggested a universal cap on the number of threads that one can make per day, so presumably it would affect every user. Even those who don't make 10+ spam threads per day.JD2411 said: terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? what about club admins who have to make lots of threads? The list goes on. A better idea would be to be able to ban a user from making threads altogether. Those threads aren't spam/troll threads looking to get reactions out of others. Threads made by those in CD in the past in present who would not stop had that as their clear intention. I don't think you know how MAL works. |
May 25, 2015 1:41 PM
#31
mayukachan said: Exowave said: Nobody responds in series diskussions or rarely. I make series discussion threads all the time for manga series that are "obscure". obscure = hentai :"X |
May 25, 2015 1:42 PM
#32
mayukachan said: So your master solution to all this problems is just to ignore them? That's lame. Ignoring users doesn't make the problem go away. It might not directly affect you, but it sure as hell affects other users.Gholy said: ignore themRoth said: But muh subjectivity. I think the regular bans are enough. It's all a matter of being aware and sitting the fuck down. |
May 25, 2015 1:42 PM
#33
Astros said: Nicoreos said: Elaborate, also my comment earlier about keyboard warriors wasn't aimed at you more the sentence you used.More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. See Lupadim in the past as an example. mayukachan said: ignore them Not sure how ignoring them works online. More or less, this enables them to continue their dirty work. Unless people just simply don't bother with a troll like this, it's best addressing it rather than doing absolutely nothing about it. And I would not be telling people to ignore problems that ruin the experience for certain users. Issues like these are indeed two-way streets. |
May 25, 2015 1:42 PM
#34
WAD1992 said: mayukachan said: Exowave said: Nobody responds in series diskussions or rarely. I make series discussion threads all the time for manga series that are "obscure". obscure = hentai :"X i don't watch hentai. pls lots of manga series don't even have chapter discussions even if they're fully scanlated |
May 25, 2015 1:43 PM
#35
mayukachan said: this is really the simplest response. There is an ignore user script. Alternatively, report there threads.ignore them |
May 25, 2015 1:43 PM
#36
My experience with CD: >sees a thread made by a certain user >don't click it Report if you think the thread is bait. The 5 minute limit should be extended for CD, though. For series discussion and club, it's a different story. |
May 25, 2015 1:43 PM
#37
Exowave said: manimesuki said: Nah. I like the freedom. Besides, MAL would probably turn into a boring homepage. How would 10-15 threads created per user a day would turn site into boring homepage. Since there are so many users after all. If 10-15 threads per day is okay, then why even make a cap? 10-15 threads a day are more than enough! |
May 25, 2015 1:44 PM
#38
Nicoreos said: mayukachan said: ignore them Not sure how ignoring them works online. More or less, this enables them to continue their dirty work. Unless people just simply don't bother with a troll like this, it's best addressing it rather than doing absolutely nothing about it. And I would not be telling people to ignore problems that ruin the experience for certain users. Issues like these are indeed two-way streets. *sighs* report if abusive and using a cap will also ruin the experience for some users, as stated in the top replies. |
May 25, 2015 1:45 PM
#39
Nicoreos said: Astros said: Nicoreos said: More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. See Lupadim in the past as an example. mayukachan said: ignore them Not sure how ignoring them works online. More or less, this enables them to continue their dirty work. Unless people just simply don't bother with a troll like this, it's best addressing it rather than doing absolutely nothing about it. And I would not be telling people to ignore problems that ruin the experience for certain users. Issues like these are indeed two-way streets. Then why don't you migrate to other forums like reddit/r/anime? They have thread caps and extensive measures to prevent troll posts. I'm sure you would enjoy it more than here, if too many topics, which in your opinion maybe "spam / troll posts", are posted here. MAL is a different forum experience, which I'm sure you should have realised, even before my arrival. |
May 25, 2015 1:47 PM
#40
JD2411 said: terrible idea what if someone's watching an obscure anime and wants to start episode discussions for all 13 episodes? what about club admins who have to make lots of threads? The list goes on. A better idea would be to be able to ban a user from making threads altogether. I think you've made a very good point here. It slipped my mind actually. If there was a way to make sure there's no cap for clubs/anime discussions that be great. But if it's an effort then I'd say just leave things the way it is... KingOfDespair said: >Hurr Durr muh feelings, I'll never take your side again Also, point taken. Was a silly reaction. |
May 25, 2015 1:47 PM
#41
manimesuki said: Exowave said: manimesuki said: Nah. I like the freedom. Besides, MAL would probably turn into a boring homepage. How would 10-15 threads created per user a day would turn site into boring homepage. Since there are so many users after all. If 10-15 threads per day is okay, then why even make a cap? 10-15 threads a day are more than enough! Because some people can and will type random short title threads in short amount of time or in matter of minutes. Sure they get deleted eventually but Admins cant always be aware of every spam shit that poops up i think. There are also marketing bots but that is whole other issue. |
May 25, 2015 1:48 PM
#42
Nicoreos said: You're not being clear with what you mean, how should Lupadim's behavior play a role in thread caps?See Lupadim in the past as an example. |
May 25, 2015 1:48 PM
#43
lolatusenpai said: Nicoreos said: lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. Because it's spam. And spam is against the rules here. How thread making in mass amounts without clear intention does not count as spam is bewildering. Well its your opinion that my threads are spam. Otherwise mods would have deleted them and/or banned me. And besides, those are some threads I created days/weeks ago. Not my problem if they get bumped by other people too often. While you're not exactly excessive yet. You're almost there. And keep in mind, I wouldn't say the majority of these ended well. You'd invite people to come in with their worst behaviors, whether unintentional or not. If you actually want to start a good thread, find ways to encourage thoughtful responses rather than ones that are prone to child's play. lolatusenpai said: Nicoreos said: Astros said: Nicoreos said: Elaborate, also my comment earlier about keyboard warriors wasn't aimed at you more the sentence you used.More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. See Lupadim in the past as an example. mayukachan said: ignore them Not sure how ignoring them works online. More or less, this enables them to continue their dirty work. Unless people just simply don't bother with a troll like this, it's best addressing it rather than doing absolutely nothing about it. And I would not be telling people to ignore problems that ruin the experience for certain users. Issues like these are indeed two-way streets. Then why don't you migrate to other forums like reddit/r/anime? They have thread caps and extensive measures to prevent troll posts. I'm sure you would enjoy it more than here, if too many topics, which in your opinion maybe "spam / troll posts", are posted here. MAL is a different forum experience, which I'm sure you should have realised, even before my arrival. I'm pretty sure you haven't seen the worst of Reddit. That's basically any MAL board on steroids. |
May 25, 2015 1:48 PM
#44
lolatusenpai said: Look man, all I'm seeing you do is your futile attempts to "shoo" people off MAL. There's a damn good reason why 2 threads have been created in response to your thread spamming. |
May 25, 2015 1:48 PM
#45
I don't really care either way. Though the thread cap could be affected by the number of years on MAL,so there are not created many bot or spam threads by alts. Though if it were possible,they would have probably done already something about it. |
May 25, 2015 1:49 PM
#46
Nicoreos said: While you're not exactly excessive yet. You're almost there. And keep in mind, I wouldn't say the majority of these ended well. You'd invite people to come in with their worst behaviors, whether unintentional or not. If you actually want to start a good thread, find ways to encourage thoughtful responses rather than ones that are prone to child's play. It's not the OP's fault for the other users' behaviour. |
May 25, 2015 1:49 PM
#47
Rather than go through the effort of coding some arbitrary rule that could harm users with good intentions, why not just get better mods and use the fucking report button? |
May 25, 2015 1:50 PM
#48
Nicoreos said: lolatusenpai said: Nicoreos said: lolatusenpai said: Heres a solution. Why don't you just leave MAL, and go to all the other forums out there on the net, that already practice the censorship and thread cap limitations you so desperately desire? Talk about people taking a stand for completely ridiculous and nonsensical matters that don't even affect their real life whatsoever. Because it's spam. And spam is against the rules here. How thread making in mass amounts without clear intention does not count as spam is bewildering. Well its your opinion that my threads are spam. Otherwise mods would have deleted them and/or banned me. And besides, those are some threads I created days/weeks ago. Not my problem if they get bumped by other people too often. While you're not exactly excessive yet. You're almost there. And keep in mind, I wouldn't say the majority of these ended well. You'd invite people to come in with their worst behaviors, whether unintentional or not. If you actually want to start a good thread, find ways to encourage thoughtful responses rather than ones that are prone to child's play. lolatusenpai said: Nicoreos said: Astros said: Nicoreos said: Elaborate, also my comment earlier about keyboard warriors wasn't aimed at you more the sentence you used.More or less those who post their own threads rather than just simply posting on other threads is a potential user behavior to define. See Lupadim in the past as an example. mayukachan said: ignore them Not sure how ignoring them works online. More or less, this enables them to continue their dirty work. Unless people just simply don't bother with a troll like this, it's best addressing it rather than doing absolutely nothing about it. And I would not be telling people to ignore problems that ruin the experience for certain users. Issues like these are indeed two-way streets. Then why don't you migrate to other forums like reddit/r/anime? They have thread caps and extensive measures to prevent troll posts. I'm sure you would enjoy it more than here, if too many topics, which in your opinion maybe "spam / troll posts", are posted here. MAL is a different forum experience, which I'm sure you should have realised, even before my arrival. I'm pretty sure you haven't seen the worst of Reddit. That's basically any MAL board on steroids. Then you clearly have never used reddit. Reddit forces users to captcha every post, and there is a time limit as to how many threads you can post. And FYI, those are some threads I created days/weeks ago. Not my problem if they get bumped by other people too often. |
May 25, 2015 1:51 PM
#49
BlueScarf said: Rather than go through the effort of coding some arbitrary rule that could harm users with good intentions, why not just get better mods and use the fucking report button? It would save trouble and time for mods,since they do not necessarily sit around on MAL all day. And too many mods could be...unconvenient. |
May 25, 2015 1:51 PM
#50
Astros said: Nicoreos said: You're not being clear with what you mean, how should Lupadim's behavior play a role in thread caps?See Lupadim in the past as an example. Look at the past, almost all of his threads were clickbait one way or another. He'd also not know when exactly to stop. Thankfully in that day, people would be able to deal with him effectively by giving him what he'd deserve. lolatu isn't that bad as past lupadim, but if he makes threads that don't invite any thoughtful discussion (and mind you thoughtful doesn't need to just be pseudophilosophy unlike those who sadly believe in this ideology), that's kind of what I'm referring to. |
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