xEmptiness said: You know there is a line tool?Not to mention my diagrams are pretty. Fix those wonky excuses for lines |
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xEmptiness said: I'll never acknowledge your diagrams as pretty then.Rhetorical said: You know there is a line tool? Fix those wonky excuses for lines Mouse + Pencil tool 4lyf. |
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Rhetorical said: xEmptiness said: I suppose that's correct, however it's the formatting and solving that goes hand in hand with the diagrams. A diagram is just a way of displaying large amounts of data in a simple way.To be fair, diagrams are like 40 words. Even shorter than 1 paragraph. :p Flowcharts are the best. That flowchart took about 30 seconds to draw up. Would have been faster if I handwrote with my tab. |
programmargorpApr 24, 2015 6:18 AM
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xEmptiness said: To think there was such a beautiful backstoryRhetorical said: I'll never acknowledge your diagrams as pretty then. The wonky lines represent struggle of the lolis against the totalitarian academy and prez-chan. You don't understand #art. I'm sorry I judged you |
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| I couldn't do it. I tried at 6am and it made my brain hurt. This answer makes the most sense though.. |
| solved it within seconds of reading the OP |
eririri said: There is no explicit collaboration between the lolis, because all they do is make a random decision about whether to get up or not I think it’s possible to make a very solid debate as to whether this counts as communication or not. I almost certainly think that most reasonable person grounded in reality will deem this as cheating, but hey, that’s why I’m not a famous philosopher yet. However, I do love lolis and want as many of them to leave the room as possible, so let’s just go along with the presumption that this doesn’t breach any of Solip’s conditions, let’s consider the original solution again with this new perspective. The original solution releases all pink-stamped lolis on the 50th night. That means on the 51st day, only red-stamped lolis remain. The original assumption is that because they cannot communicate in any way, they can never be certain that the their stamp is red. Thus, to avoid lewd things being done on their bodies, they will never leave. However, what if they can actually stand up and hesitate before leaving as per Eririri and Programmargorp’s solutions? On the 51st night, they will know to all stand up and leave, because all of them can only see 49 red-stamped lolis. The reason why they will stand up is because they know that the stamp on their own forehead that isn’t red, everyone will simply stop leaving. By their personal logic, this will possibly result in one loli being stuck, but like xEmptiness pointed out, we as observers know that this method saves every single loli, not leaving a single one behind by the 51st night. As we know, if we were to apply the Eririri/Programmargorp method straight off the bat, there is also the same possibility a loli that will be left behind. At the first glance, this seems like the better option, because it only takes one night and “you should assume that the lolis will be trying to leave as soon as possible”. However, there’s actually a very high incentive for the lolis to take the 51 day option over the 1 day option. When you apply the 51 day option, each loli have immediate assurance that every pink-stamped loli they see will be able to leave the room. And immediately afterwards, every single loli will only see red-stamped classmates. If these lolis are truly cute, pure, and better than my waifu, they will immediately choose this option, because they’re selfless and have 100% visual assurance that every single classmate except themselves can be saved. This is because by the random number generator, all the Reds also will eventually leave. The only person that can be left behind is yourself, assuming that your stamp is a colour that's neither pink or red. Given that in this room, “all their needs are all provided for and they are treated with gentle care and tenderness, as every loli deserves”, there’s no reason they wouldn’t opt to choose the method that takes 51 days but comes with visual assurance that everyone (excluding herself) will be saved over the 1 day method where the loli that could potentially be left behind is completely decided by fate. |
MayucchiYukieApr 24, 2015 7:10 AM
JD2411 said: Mind sharing your answer?solved it within seconds of reading the OP Because I can only call bullshit right now. |
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Rhetorical said: JD2411 said: solved it within seconds of reading the OP Mind sharing your answer? Because I can only call bullshit right now. Answer with Common Logic Answer with Eririri Logic Answer with Common and Eririri logic combined mi_oyatsu said: I couldn't do it. I tried at 6am and it made my brain hurt. This answer makes the most sense though.. I think you should read the thread. |
| im too autistic for this |
| They all leave on the first night because the prez said "I see a pink-stamped loli". The logical loli deducted from that statement and their comrades reaction that she must be a pink stamped loli. The pink stamped loli then proceed to group all the other loli into two groups without saying anything. The other logical loli immediately knows what she was trying to accomplish because they are logical beings and cooperates. Now the group is split they immediately knows which groups they were belongs to and the two groups leaves on the first night with confidence. :D |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| All assume they are pink, half go free and call the police for holding the others hostage. CookieGawd said: You mean not autistic enough. Its maths not social skills.im too autistic for this |
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| I feel dumb and I'm probably wrong but I'll try. |
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| but i cant be smarter then a loli , i am defenseless loli irl :( |
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| "I see a pink-stamped loli." = 1 pink stamped loli / 99 red stamped lolis (she's talking about loli, without an 's', so it's one) Gather all lolis in one place and count the red stamps, the one loli who counts to 99 and can't see the pink one is the one with the pink stamp. Shouldn't take that much time, thus all leaving together on the first night. The pres' hint is actually useful cos up to this point the lolis didn't know how many pink stamps were given. Edit: Don't say the pres is lying, if we count in lies, this would be impossible to solve. (giving all lolis green stamps and just tell em it's either pink or red etc.) |
Saito66Apr 25, 2015 7:26 AM
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