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| That torture scene was completely unexpected. Holy shit that was graphic stuff. Any chance Eren gets eaten? I don't think so. But I don't think he comes out of this scottfree. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| The way i see it the reiss family are the ones that made humanity get stuck inside the walls and forget what was going on and that is why nobody knows about the titans in the walls. fathertime said: Grisha's titan looks badass..I don't understand why he decided to sacrifice himself if he had that kind of power lying around..Surely,he'd have been a better position to aid humanity than a 10 year old kid who had no idea of his true potential It was an accident no? Eren went titan form again and he then ate his dad. |
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| Historia's father probably didn't tell the whole story, there must be a reason why eren's father killed his family, and I hope historia is just tricking him, is she really going to betray eren because of that? if she does then I hope she gets torn to pieces by Titan eren. |
Peralisc said: The way i see it the reiss family are the ones that made humanity get stuck inside the walls and forget what was going on and that is why nobody knows about the titans in the walls. fathertime said: Grisha's titan looks badass..I don't understand why he decided to sacrifice himself if he had that kind of power lying around..Surely,he'd have been a better position to aid humanity than a 10 year old kid who had no idea of his true potential It was an accident no? Eren went titan form again and he then ate his dad. Pretty sure Grisha told Eren to eat him |
| O.o Oh shit...Historia/Christa...do not please fall into blood-lust and thirst of Vengeance... You know Eren...he is not Guilty for what his Father did. Oh man I did not like the look of the Historia's Eyes. What a way to get revenge to those who acted as King and his Advisers..fitting revenge towards shitty Blue-bloods. Ackerman family was persecuted? why...is there other powers tahn just turning-Into-Titans power? God dammit...Historia....Watch Out...that Freaking Old Bastard is only using you!!! She is going to become Mad Titan. Eren Stop her!!! I have to say that, just like everybody else have been saying...something is suspicious in this entire thing...there has to been something else too in that what happened with Reiss Family and Grisha...like we did not hear what he was yelling to the Reiss. |
JarjaxleNov 8, 2014 6:31 PM
| Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill "Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods "Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece)) |
| Something don't add up with the fact that everyone died in the reiss family apart from the old guy |
| Interesting build up chapter, hoping it'll deliver next month, can't wait for some action |
fathertime said: Peralisc said: The way i see it the reiss family are the ones that made humanity get stuck inside the walls and forget what was going on and that is why nobody knows about the titans in the walls. It was an accident no? Eren went titan form again and he then ate his dad. Pretty sure Grisha told Eren to eat him Eh wait wait wait, though Grisha said that he should be the one avenging his mother, I don't remember him telling Eren to eat him...? Actually this is also a question I've been pondering about, why does it have to be Eren? Why don't Grisha do it himself? The only possible reason is that someone or some organization is after Girsha, like, making it not a viable option anymore for him to stay alive. Someone who is not Rob Reiss. Btw I bet it'll be super weird having your dad's memories, like, you can even remember the time when you were a baby, your mother when she's young... even embarrassing stuff your dad did o_o nooo |
fianeNov 8, 2014 11:09 PM
| And of course, we get to see Historia having misplaced hatred to Eren, even if he is the one who did not do it. Since the father mentioned Frieda is the invincible Titan power user, I assume she technically have the "cry" (coordinate in Kodansha's translation), and it was obtained by Grisha, then later obtained by Eren as he ate his father. It'll be interesting to see if Historia gets the Titan transformation, since we haven't seen Titan vs. Titan in the present (the flashback this time is exempted, since it is in a flashback). |
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| Good chapter and it really looks like Eren's family is the sole cause of everything that has happened so far, kinda frustrates me that Eren (his naive personality ticks me off more than minor characters really) is fighting his battle without knowing the whole story and always thinking he is in the right. The invincible power is definitely the titan cry to control wild titans like what Eren demonstrated before, so now what we need to know is the true motive of Eren's father for doing what he did because there is no reason to kill everyone else in the Reiss family if his main goal is just to obtain the power. Also, for the titan shifters who are no longer in the city except 1, wonder which side are they really on now? |
ShanaFlameNov 9, 2014 12:46 AM
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| Finally read the chapter. Oh fuck, we are finally getting some real answers. I wonder how everything will turn out, though some theories here seem very plausible. Overall nice chapter. |
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| The blonde titan was Frieda after all, as expected. Also Historia is supposed to be eating Eren as many people suggested. That scene with the gagged fatso was...creepy. And "oddly enough" Mr. Reiss was the only one to escape. Yeah that one sure is odd, dude... |
| I wonder why Frieda in Titan form is blonde rather than black-haired? |
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| Lol Grisha's titan looks fat and weird o3o Oh God. Waiting for the next chapter all the time really sucks, but it's awarding. |
fiane said: fathertime said: Pretty sure Grisha told Eren to eat him Eh wait wait wait, though Grisha said that he should be the one avenging his mother, I don't remember him telling Eren to eat him...? Actually this is also a question I've been pondering about, why does it have to be Eren? Why don't Grisha do it himself? The only possible reason is that someone or some organization is after Girsha, like, making it not a viable option anymore for him to stay alive. Someone who is not Rob Reiss. Btw I bet it'll be super weird having your dad's memories, like, you can even remember the time when you were a baby, your mother when she's young... even embarrassing stuff your dad did o_o nooo I've been thinking about this too and i got a theory..I noticed that Eren,Frieda and Karla all look kinda alike.. I think Karla Yeagar was Karla Reiss before she got married..Maybe Rod's sister..After Karla died,her husband (Grisha) begs the Reiss family to avenge the death of one of their own by using the coordinate ability(Grisha looked to be pleading something before he turned into a titan)..But Rod/Frieda refuse and out of a sense of greater good/vengeance Grisha attacks Frieda and steals the power as he wants to avenge Karla's death and also because he feels that the coordinate ability should be with someone who was actually willing to help humanity with it(like Eren)..But since the coordinate ability can only be manifested inside a person with the Reiss bloodline,Grisha can't use it..So he gives it to Eren who has the Reiss bloodline within him through his mother.. |
zellami said: Sweet Coconut: Btw, the next issue will be next year (January), so it means there'll be no new chapter next month? Or I'm reading it wrong based on the translation? This chapter is the December issue, so in December, we'll get the January issue - that is, no gaps. It's a publishing thing I don't quite get to explain, but no worries - we should be able to read chapter 64 around December 9-th as planned. Ooooh. Thanks. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
fathertime said: fiane said: Eh wait wait wait, though Grisha said that he should be the one avenging his mother, I don't remember him telling Eren to eat him...? Actually this is also a question I've been pondering about, why does it have to be Eren? Why don't Grisha do it himself? The only possible reason is that someone or some organization is after Girsha, like, making it not a viable option anymore for him to stay alive. Someone who is not Rob Reiss. Btw I bet it'll be super weird having your dad's memories, like, you can even remember the time when you were a baby, your mother when she's young... even embarrassing stuff your dad did o_o nooo I've been thinking about this too and i got a theory..I noticed that Eren,Frieda and Karla all look kinda alike.. I think Karla Yeagar was Karla Reiss before she got married..Maybe Rod's sister..After Karla died,her husband (Grisha) begs the Reiss family to avenge the death of one of their own by using the coordinate ability(Grisha looked to be pleading something before he turned into a titan)..But Rod/Frieda refuse and out of a sense of greater good/vengeance Grisha attacks Frieda and steals the power as he wants to avenge Karla's death and also because he feels that the coordinate ability should be with someone who was actually willing to help humanity with it(like Eren)..But since the coordinate ability can only be manifested inside a person with the Reiss bloodline,Grisha can't use it..So he gives it to Eren who has the Reiss bloodline within him through his mother.. Shit, that's so possible. However, would Grisha be willing to lose his life over revenge? |
| Finally I was able to read this chapter, and it worth the wait for ! :D What I learned/guessed/whatever thought with this chapter : -Historia didn't know that touching Eren helped him to remember things until her father bring it. So she still don't have any explanations at this point of the story, about her powers it seems. In fact, Rod seemed to be a bit clumsy in the previous chapter and this one about how to activate memories and how it works (I got the feeling he more or less guessed that "touching Eren with Historia was the trigger" than truly knowing it). I'm sad for Historia, her "half sister" was the only one who acted as a "mother" toward her... -Rod was surprised to learn Frieda visited Historia and erased her memories, it can be assumed that he wasn't aware of it. (The trust Frieda had on his own father is amazing *ironic* Historia should take a lesson from her). It gives me the feel that maybe Rod wasn't really the "ruler" of the Reiss family actions before Frieda death, but more a "follower" of Frieda decisions herself. The way she was acting in front of Griesha in the underground chapel, the fact she was the only one to have titan shifting power, seems to point it. -The picture of Griesha facing Reiss family before the slaughter, seems to convey that Griesha was asking some explanations about "something" the Reiss done (or didn't done) and was grieving about something (wife death only ?). Feel of betrayal here. Eren is experiencing the guilt coming from his father's sins. Guess it will give him some maturity and make him stop to follow a "black or white" scheme of thoughts. Maybe he will be less quick to judge and blame people actions. I'm sad for him, the way he was looking when Rod was explaining to Historia why she couldn't meet Frieda... painful. -Rod saying half trues/half lies and doing a great job on brainwashing Historia for his own convenient feelings. I don't believe he didn't know about Griesha before this night, and I don't believe it was "by chance" he was the only survivor. And honestly the way he told how each member of his family was killed, is a bit creepy, especially when he was saying that her spouse tried to run with a child on her arms. Wait, and you, good father, didn't tried anything and escaped faster than anyone right ?... For me, he just needs Historia to convey the ritual to erase everyone memories by using the lost power Frieda held before been stolen by Griesha (and given by him to Eren). And two things at once, revenge form his family loss? And funny fact, when he was talking about Frieda, he said "I had 5 children..."..Hey he forgot to count Historia as his child or what? Good father's feelings now, indeed, Historia please wake up ! -Bloodlines are important . Either it is "nobles" who aren't affected by loss memories, or "Ackerman ones" with the ability to control their brain perfectly with superpowers actived or I don't know how it's explained (maybe a hint that Ackerman bloodline won't be affected by the erasing memories in the same way the others will ?Which could explain the persecution Misaka knew about her father, and also the nobles saying "inclusive of themselve some bloodlines aren't affected ?) And "blood of slaves", when talking about population inside walls. Whoo. Remind me a bit how RAB poorly regarded walls population in general... Anyway, the nobles are confident that the population (including military forces) will lost their memories, and braze about even in such a disadvantageous situation for them. So it means that it probably did occured before, memory loss on such a large scope, and they witnessed it. Or they are really stupid. -Pixie is still keeping his thoughts secret, it seems he have still informations to spill at this point of the scenariol. And again he talks about " when does human will stop fighting humans" (a recall of what he said to Eren about a common ennemy arise to unite humankid during Trost attack)... Anyway, his way of thinking (and perhaps true goal) clash with Erwin ones and goal it seems. Pixie is raising my interest, I really want to know more about him now :o -Kenny and Rod associated because it was necessary, not because they want it (at least it seems Kenny didn't have lot of choices, he really seems frustrated to be kept away from the place where Rod and co gathered, and shows so many signs of distrust about Rod). -Levi talk. "At some time, in some moment"... OK, I know you can be more precise, come one please ! :/ -Zackly, you crazy man, don't use the "'for population sake" excuse like nobles done, when you convey your own personal revenge :( Anyway, I question more and more the sanity of all people inside the walls (more seriously, it seems the author really want to "flip" the table and show how deep into "darkness" the "human side" can sink without anyone stopping it, because "it is for the better sake" ) -From the way Eren was watching the seringue, the way the two panels (page 41) was showing side to side Griesha grieving and asking Eren to venge his mother death and Rod talking about Frieda memories still alive and asking Historia if she wanted to meet her, also how Eren was noticing the look of hatred from Rod face, and with the end of the chapter with "tear away the chains of tragedy that bind father and son", I feel Eren had understood that acting with revenge in mind wasn't good and only lead to another tragedies, and he will act and try to stop it, and break free from all this hatred. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it haha xD Anyway, this chapter was great, with so many interesting focus ! And again, it starts another month of waiting, of piling up theories, so exciting ! |
| Committing a crime isn't scary. The scary part is to admit it. Receiving a punishment isn't scary. The scary part is to know the pain of it. Neither crime nor punishment will be gone from the world, Because humans are unable to know their future. |
fiane said: fathertime said: I've been thinking about this too and i got a theory..I noticed that Eren,Frieda and Karla all look kinda alike.. I think Karla Yeagar was Karla Reiss before she got married..Maybe Rod's sister..After Karla died,her husband (Grisha) begs the Reiss family to avenge the death of one of their own by using the coordinate ability(Grisha looked to be pleading something before he turned into a titan)..But Rod/Frieda refuse and out of a sense of greater good/vengeance Grisha attacks Frieda and steals the power as he wants to avenge Karla's death and also because he feels that the coordinate ability should be with someone who was actually willing to help humanity with it(like Eren)..But since the coordinate ability can only be manifested inside a person with the Reiss bloodline,Grisha can't use it..So he gives it to Eren who has the Reiss bloodline within him through his mother.. Shit, that's so possible. However, would Grisha be willing to lose his life over revenge? It's not just about revenge..It's also about the greater good of humanity..Grisha could have seen it that way |
fathertimeNov 9, 2014 1:38 PM
Edvokiya said: Anyway, this chapter was great, with so many interesting focus ! And again, it starts another month of waiting, of piling up theories, so exciting ! great analysis i agree too rod made up how frieda and his family died, too many convenient things: only frieda could titan transform, only rod managed to excape, eren's father attacking with no previous explanation |
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| Wow, that was a pretty intense chapter. I knew that Mikasa's power wasn't that normal, but now we know that she's somehow related to Levi and Kenny... But what exactly is this power Grisha wanted? And why? And where did Rod get that injection from? He wants to get rid of Eren by using Historia's anger towards him...if I understood that correctly |
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Zeando said: Edvokiya said: Anyway, this chapter was great, with so many interesting focus ! And again, it starts another month of waiting, of piling up theories, so exciting ! great analysis i agree too rod made up how frieda and his family died, too many convenient things: only frieda could titan transform, only rod managed to excape, eren's father attacking with no previous explanation Oh thank you ! And thanks to have read my post fully I was afraid to not be understandable ><" Huum I don't think (or more I hope that isn't the case) that Rod totally made up the night of the Reiss slaughter, because first, I don't believe that Eren remembered altered memories (memories with missing holes, yes, but not fake memories), I just pointed that he was more prompt to save his own skin rather his family own... It would feel awckward if what we saw was totally made-up. Memories missing parts yes, and Rod uses it at is own advantage (for example, a dialogue between Griesha and Reiss family before the slaughter, or some meeting between them prior to this night especially since we saw Rod with a seringue similar to the one Griesha gave to Eren, he lied by saying he don't know anything about him). I believe Rod didn't tell all the true, and he uses the lack of knowledge of Historia (and of Eren too in a way), to made him look like the "good guy" and Griesha the "bad guy"in front of Historia. |
EdvokiyaNov 9, 2014 6:22 AM
| Committing a crime isn't scary. The scary part is to admit it. Receiving a punishment isn't scary. The scary part is to know the pain of it. Neither crime nor punishment will be gone from the world, Because humans are unable to know their future. |
| It wasn't the best chapter to read right after dinner. |
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zat-bust said: It wasn't the best chapter to read right after dinner. I was eating actually. :D Didn't feel a thing. |
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| looks like they are collecting the powers of titans, the one who can control the most powers will be the ruler |
| Damn it. I thought Levi and Mikasa had trained to become stronger. Now they have special powers? That ruins everything. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: Actually it's more of a surviving ability than a normal power up. It was foreshadowed in episode 6 when a reaction/activation occurs inside Mikasa's brain. She and Levi still had to train to be able to harness that awoken ability.Damn it. I thought Levi and Mikasa had trained to become stronger. Now they have special powers? That ruins everything. |
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Rastafa21 said: pkKodama said: Actually it's more of a surviving ability than a normal power up. It was foreshadowed in episode 6 when a reaction/activation occurs inside Mikasa's brain. She and Levi still had to train to be able to harness that awoken ability.Damn it. I thought Levi and Mikasa had trained to become stronger. Now they have special powers? That ruins everything. Ohh, that makes sense :D |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| I like the chapter, and I think what Rod is saying is true, but I'm sure he didn't explain this part of the story. http://www.mangabee.com/Attack_on_Titan_2014/63/11/ where it looks like Grisha was pleading for help, but it seems they refuse to help. Also remember in the last chapter eren saw the memory of his father, so unless Frieda got a hold of grisha and change his memory, then what happen was all true. |
Peresu-san said: BTW, no one has mentioned Eren's "Hell naw!" expression at the end of the chapter and that it looks like he's gonna break the chains that bind him! Go Eren, go! It would be nice if Eren could produce an injury in place of the bites. Annie had the ring with the small blade, I hope he would be able to get free. keragamming said: I like the chapter, and I think what Rod is saying is true, but I'm sure he didn't explain this part of the story. http://www.mangabee.com/Attack_on_Titan_2014/63/11/ where it looks like Grisha was pleading for help, but it seems they refuse to help. Also remember in the last chapter eren saw the memory of his father, so unless Frieda got a hold of grisha and change his memory, then what happen was all true. I have no intention to defend Grisha for killing the kids. Supposedly, Eren was already a shifter the second time he transformed in Trost, yet he attacked Mikasa. Now with the Ackermans being another bloodline of mystery, it may be because of her (being something Eren's kind is supposed to attack), likewise a family of another bloodline (the Reisses) Grisha crushed to blood puddles. If we add Ymir, who ate Berik, the incidents make a case in its own - Ackerman bloodline, Reiss bloodline, a shifter. Respectively, (Beast), Ymir, Grisha, and Eren don't look like the other shifters, and Ilse's titan is a deviant of peculiar case, connected to Ymir. Not to mention that Ymir didn't remember who she ate, Eren didn't remember attacking Mikasa, and what happened to Grisha is currently seen through Eren's private memories, Frieda's inherited/transmitted memories, and Rod's manipulations. That is, Rod is a lier and lies about Frieda. How many women with long black hair could be the Reiss's heiress in that village, such that he was certain it was Frieda who Historia meant. It was so ready an answer, that I couldn't think that he is but lying through his teeth: he had been sending Frieda on purpose to look after Historia. IIRC, Frieda was also iffy about being the good onee-san to Historia. Now, if Historia is a Reiss, how the heck she isn't immune to memory manipulation but the other nobility is? She isn't, and quite possibly they aren't too, but made to believe so. As brutal as it is, Zackley plays off on their threats. After the torture, regardless if the situation would backfire on the humanity, the nobility will plead their memories to be changed. Edgy, right? -.-; I was about to respond to fathertime's earlier post, when I noticed something. This is from the downloaded chapter of HorribleScans: And this is a snip from Chruncy's currently available for reading chapter: I don't even ..., but can anyone fathom a reason for the change? :) |
zellamiNov 9, 2014 1:50 PM
I'm starting to wonder if some syringe can turn human straight into titan shifters? The reason I ask is because of this. Someone has translated what was labeled on the bottle that Rod brought, and it says. "Strongest titan" or "super titan" Not sure which translation is right. Just putting that out there. |
keragammingNov 9, 2014 1:28 PM
keragamming said: I'm starting to wonder if some syringe can turn human straight into titan shifters? The reason I ask is because of this. Someone has translated what was labeled on the bottle that Rod brought, and it says. "Strongest titan" or "super titan" Not sure which translation is right. Just putting that out there. I am at odds how anyone can fork out a script to translate from this image, but ... why not? It's kind of obvious that RBA (plus Frieda perhaps) look different than Beast, Ymir, Eren, and Grisha. The mindless titans are also different types. So, onset, appearance, transmission, or transformation can take (or could have taken) different routes depending on the type of serum. Hell, even Mikasa could be a successful product of a super-soldier, because of such bottle. |
| y Peresu-san said: Was I the only one subconsciously screaming "Run Eren, run!" when Historia gave him that glare? She maybe entitled to be angry with him and Grisha but she's a fool if she takes her father's every word at face value. No doubt with the recent revelations of his Pops, the SJW crowd at tumblr will see this yet as another opportunity to disparage, degenerate, mischaracterize, and attack Eren. BTW, no one has mentioned Eren's "Hell naw!" expression at the end of the chapter and that it looks like he's gonna break the chains that bind him! Go Eren, go! You know, I was thinking that there's no way Eren will be able to free himself from the chains, that he'll be forced to use coordinate power on Historia. Which then will be a tragedy cause Historia can't return back to normal :'/ zellami said: keragamming said: I'm starting to wonder if some syringe can turn human straight into titan shifters? The reason I ask is because of this. Someone has translated what was labeled on the bottle that Rod brought, and it says. "Strongest titan" or "super titan" Not sure which translation is right. Just putting that out there. I am at odds how anyone can fork out a script to translate from this image, but ... why not? It's kind of obvious that RBA (plus Frieda perhaps) look different than Beast, Ymir, Eren, and Grisha. The mindless titans are also different types. So, onset, appearance, transmission, or transformation can take (or could have taken) different routes depending on the type of serum. Hell, even Mikasa could be a successful product of a super-soldier, because of such bottle. I agree. As Rod mentioned how Frieda's titan stood at the zenith of all titans... There must be some kind of 'classes' of some sort. But man... how could it be translated! I didn't even think it was letters, even Japanese! |
| ^ They zoom in on it, I can't find the original picture where they zoom in on it, but it could be a lie though. These are the same people that spotted the hidden sex joke in chapter 57 that Isayama assistant put in there, don't underestimate them. lol |
| ^ Cool! I've seen the can Ymir found in Utgard translated, so - no underestimation. What do you guys think about this power of Frieda? I remember whining about it in the previous chapter discussion, but something really bothers me. Frieda, by touching people, can erase their memories and she doesn't need to transform in order to effectuate the power. The other shifters don't seem to have any specific power when in their human form, except the regeneration (to some extent, common to all of them). Maybe when she is in her human form, the coordinator works as the memory thingy (affecting humans), but if she transforms, she might bend to her will titans and shifters like Eren did on the battlefield. It will be an exceptional power indeed if this is case. ... Did she use her power against Grisha at all? And if not - why? |
fathertime said: I think its possible Historia will become a mindless titan,but Eren will escape before he can be eaten..Historia will remain a mindless titan,eat Rod and spend her days as a mindless titan until Ymir gets back and she'll sacrifice herself and let herself be eaten so that Historia can be human again..Ymir has lived for a long time and in all that time the only person she truly loved was Historia ..So it'd make sense that Ymir would sacrifice herself for Historia..Would be an truly epic ending to their relationship I was thinking more of eren killing Historia and having Ymir be the one wanting Eren dead IF Annie isn't a shifter. She's hard her memory altered, we don't know if her "sister" didn't already turn Annie into a shifter. Let's not forget, Rob is shady as fuck. He could've easily just made up the story about Freida to get Historia on his side and to loose trust in Eren. Remember Annie did not see any memories of Grisha eating Freida and the rest of the Reiss. Otherwise she would know why he did it. If Grisha was that forceful, he why wouldn't he have gone on a rampage of killing titans like Eren? Eren was the first reported titan seen attacking other titans. How Rob described Eren's dad is out of character, especially when he would rather have sacrificed himself in order for eren(a true fighter) to avenge him and his wife. hanjirules said: Is Zachley crazy? He did a quite horrible thing to that noble. That kind of violence is intollerable even toward the worst criminal! Probably Isayama got crazy too, that kind of images are absolutely inappropriate for a shonen manga. Some week ago a boys was almost killed by some schoolmates in a quite similiar way. As far as I know, he's still stuggling for his life.... Some idiot could think that it's a nice prank and try to do it to a friend. It's the very first time I give Snk a poor mark .... omf out of everything in the manga, that was the most outrageous? No matter what, torture will never be on the same scale as murder, it's pretty ignorant to say seeing people get torn apart and eaten is okay, but seeing a corrupt politician eat his own shit is too far. Like girl bye. fathertime said: fiane said: Eh wait wait wait, though Grisha said that he should be the one avenging his mother, I don't remember him telling Eren to eat him...? Actually this is also a question I've been pondering about, why does it have to be Eren? Why don't Grisha do it himself? The only possible reason is that someone or some organization is after Girsha, like, making it not a viable option anymore for him to stay alive. Someone who is not Rob Reiss. Btw I bet it'll be super weird having your dad's memories, like, you can even remember the time when you were a baby, your mother when she's young... even embarrassing stuff your dad did o_o nooo I've been thinking about this too and i got a theory..I noticed that Eren,Frieda and Karla all look kinda alike.. I think Karla Yeagar was Karla Reiss before she got married..Maybe Rod's sister..After Karla died,her husband (Grisha) begs the Reiss family to avenge the death of one of their own by using the coordinate ability(Grisha looked to be pleading something before he turned into a titan)..But Rod/Frieda refuse and out of a sense of greater good/vengeance Grisha attacks Frieda and steals the power as he wants to avenge Karla's death and also because he feels that the coordinate ability should be with someone who was actually willing to help humanity with it(like Eren)..But since the coordinate ability can only be manifested inside a person with the Reiss bloodline,Grisha can't use it..So he gives it to Eren who has the Reiss bloodline within him through his mother.. lol you stole that of tumblr |
skittle316Nov 9, 2014 5:11 PM
zellami said: ^ Cool! I've seen the can Ymir found in Utgard translated, so - no underestimation. What do you guys think about this power of Frieda? I remember whining about it in the previous chapter discussion, but something really bothers me. Frieda, by touching people, can erase their memories and she doesn't need to transform in order to effectuate the power. The other shifters don't seem to have any specific power when in their human form, except the regeneration (to some extent, common to all of them). Maybe when she is in her human form, the coordinator works as the memory thingy (affecting humans), but if she transforms, she might bend to her will titans and shifters like Eren did on the battlefield. It will be an exceptional power indeed if this is case. ... Did she use her power against Grisha at all? And if not - why? Now that you've said that, Eren use his coordinate power in human form to control the titans in chapter 50. Also does Reiss have any power? Can Frieda just erase memories, or can she insert fake memories as well? Has that been confirmed yet? |
| I think she can both erase and restore them. Inserting fake memories is actually difficult. |
keragamming said: zellami said: ^ Cool! I've seen the can Ymir found in Utgard translated, so - no underestimation. What do you guys think about this power of Frieda? I remember whining about it in the previous chapter discussion, but something really bothers me. Frieda, by touching people, can erase their memories and she doesn't need to transform in order to effectuate the power. The other shifters don't seem to have any specific power when in their human form, except the regeneration (to some extent, common to all of them). Maybe when she is in her human form, the coordinator works as the memory thingy (affecting humans), but if she transforms, she might bend to her will titans and shifters like Eren did on the battlefield. It will be an exceptional power indeed if this is case. ... Did she use her power against Grisha at all? And if not - why? Now that you've said that, Eren use his coordinate power in human form to control the titans in chapter 50. Also does Reiss have any power? Can Frieda just erase memories, or can she insert fake memories as well? Has that been confirmed yet? I think she can predict the future, that would explain why Eren predicted the titans and his mothers death. If Grisha ate Freida, then maybe he saw a future that only Eren could help fix. |
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