| I have wanted to watch Fate/Stay Night for a long time because of much Saber interested me, so I recently did. I check which part to watch first and since this was the first one made I went with it, though I did see a lot of people saying not to watch it and just watch Fate/Zero instead, I decided to watch both in the intended order. I hate this series, the ending for Fate/Stay Night was one of the most garbage endings I've had to deal with, everything good is lost and all that's left is the bad events, people were killed because of this war, for Saber to go back it means the one good thing to happen through out this series was the friendship between Rin and the main character. I personally don't like the idea of loss either. However as I finished this I though about FMA, in the original Edward gets pulled into another world in the last episode. Making you think, wow ending is shitty, he lost his brother, wtf. However the movie ended up fixing that, by bringing him back to his own world with his brother IIRC or maybe it was the other way around, there were some problems people have with the ending still but at least the movie fixed the problem of separation, I figured Fate/Stay Night would do the same, watched 9 minutes, skimmed through to the end to see it's mostly just a retelling of the story and the end mentions nothing about Saber being there. So that's the end huh? There is no point in this entire series where Saber and the main character stay together? It makes me not want to even bother with Fate/Zero cause I know the end of the overall series is garbage. I think Fate/Stay Night could have learned a lot from FMA. |
| Watch the new F/SN. Do note 2006 F/SN is a bad adaptation anyway and no one takes that one seriously. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Deen butcher anything that it touches, FSN was just another victim. |
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| So then is the new one she stays? I only wanna continue this series if there is an end where she stays, which is why I made this topic, as well as to share my opinion on it. |
MariaKnight said: So then is the new one she stays? I only wanna continue this series if there is an end where she stays, which is why I made this topic, as well as to share my opinion on it. Surprisingly, the answer is "maybe". However, Saber is not the focus of the new F/SN show. F/SN was originally a VN, and like many VNs there are various routes for each heroine. The one thing that set F/SN apart is that the common route was only about 5%. After that initial 5%, the routes branch into completely different story progression, events, character focus, etc. DEEN's F/SN adaptation was primarily based on the Fate route, where Saber is the main heroine. However, they also threw in a bunch of plot points from the other two routes just to sate their idiocy. It is overall a bad adaption that should not be watched. This new F/SN on the other hand is the best show of this season and of this year. However, it's based on Unlimited Blade Works route, where Rin is the main heroine. |
| wait hold on i had to do a double take So the only reason you dislike the ending is because |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Basically FullMetal Alchemist > Fate/Stay Night? Got it op. |
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| You my friend, need the real and only true canon ending of FSN. |
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| Well it's not the only reason I dislike it, but I was hoping for Saber to stay since she is the reason I started watching the show, a princess and a knight in one character, it's just too perfect. Ideally I want Saber to be there. However the worst part about the ending is that nothing really changed, before the series he was a high school kid who helped people and he didn't have a girlfriend, he had a few friends. After it's like he is a highs school student who probably still helps people and he has slightly less friends, still no girlfriend, the only change aside from the massive amount of loss in the end is he had been friends with Rin. 25 episodes of people bonding and others dieing both side characters and nameless characters and all that comes out of this is, he is friends with Rin now. There was no wish, waited all those episodes to see what a guy who didn't want that wish would use it for, didn't happen, in the end he destroys the grail but it was already stated that, destroying the grail doesn't stop the grail wars as it had already been done in the past yet the grail wars were still happening cause people make a new one or it makes itself or whatever. It's usually nice to see characters get what they spend a series trying to achieve, or at the very least find a new goal along the way and achieve that instead. |
MariaKnight said: However the worst part about the ending is that nothing really changed, before the series he was a high school kid who helped people and he didn't have a girlfriend, he had a few friends. After it's like he is a highs school student who probably still helps people and he has slightly less friends, still no girlfriend, the only change aside from the massive amount of loss in the end is he had been friends with Rin. If you have problems with the lack of development he got, I'm happy to tell you that the current F/SN will have Shirou change more visibly than he did in the 2006 show. To add on to what Rinth said, the Saber route of the VN is generally considered the weakest route, since he really doesn't get all that much development or growth in that route either. With Ufotable adapting the Rin (and soon, Sakura) route, I can tell you that the guy will finally get some development and stuff. There was no wish, waited all those episodes to see what a guy who didn't want that wish would use it for, didn't happen, in the end he destroys the grail but it was already stated that, destroying the grail doesn't stop the grail wars as it had already been done in the past yet the grail wars were still happening cause people make a new one or it makes itself or whatever. It's usually nice to see characters get what they spend a series trying to achieve, or at the very least find a new goal along the way and achieve that instead. Yeah, that's something that not well addressed in the old show if I remember correctly. Without going into spoilers, I'd just recommend watching the new show and eventually the movie(s) adapted by Ufotable since those explain more plot elements and do a better job at representing the characters. But yeah nothing can be done about Saber, unless Ufotable surprises us >.> |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
JabonHR said: But yeah nothing can be done about Saber, unless Ufotable surprises us >.> They can troll the viewers, using the ending................................. |
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| I thought Fate/stay night's ending was bitter-sweet and worked in its own way, so I didn't have a problem with it. Plus, it slightly hinted at the possibility that they could still reunite some day and Shirou wasn't giving up, so it was still open-ended in that sense and you could draw your own conclusions about what might follow afterward. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| FMA's ending was still okay without the Brothers' reunion. OP needs to learn to deal with bittersweet endings. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
j0x said: watch Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks TV (not the movie) and you are missing a lot if you do not watch Fate/Zero it has far better atmosphere and animation Totally agree with you. enjoying this version lots. And there's a very good overlap between this version of F/SN and F/Z since its done by the same animation company. They've been very careful till now to propagate the characters interactions from F/Z to F/SN. I'd say that especially about interactions between Kotomine Kirei and Gilgamesh and Saber's reaction to Illyasviel. I hate this series, the ending for Fate/Stay Night was one of the most garbage endings I've had to deal with, everything good is lost and all that's left is the bad events, people were killed because of this war, for Saber to go back it means the one good thing to happen through out this series was the friendship between Rin and the main character. I personally don't like the idea of loss either. If you dislike tragedies, you'll never enjoy F/Z because its even more grim than the new F/SN UBW (TV) episodes till now. The character interactions in F/Z will really kill you psychologically. |
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RedRoseFring said: FMA's ending was still okay without the Brothers' reunion. OP needs to learn to deal with bittersweet endings. Wasn't the movie's ending even worse? I mean |
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| F/SN (2006) couldn't have ended any other way. Unless you wanted |
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| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
gedata said: RedRoseFring said: FMA's ending was still okay without the Brothers' reunion. OP needs to learn to deal with bittersweet endings. Wasn't the movie's ending even worse? I mean I didn't see it that way. Ed and Al were always so close to each other, I think separating them in both worlds is a worse fate. I felt like the movie had much better closure than the series. Real sacrifices were made but without making it totally feel like they got nothing in return. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
MariaKnight said: I think the point of the series really flew over your head although not surprisingly since it was an adaptation from Deen studio.However the worst part about the ending is that nothing really changed, before the series he was a high school kid who helped people and he didn't have a girlfriend, he had a few friends. After it's like he is a highs school student who probably still helps people and he has slightly less friends, still no girlfriend, the only change aside from the massive amount of loss in the end is he had been friends with Rin. 25 episodes of people bonding and others dieing both side characters and nameless characters and all that comes out of this is, he is friends with Rin now. There was no wish, waited all those episodes to see what a guy who didn't want that wish would use it for, didn't happen, in the end he destroys the grail but it was already stated that, destroying the grail doesn't stop the grail wars as it had already been done in the past yet the grail wars were still happening cause people make a new one or it makes itself or whatever. Shirou didnt want a girlfriend or more friends.It would be nice to get them but THAT WAS NOT THE POINT of his dream. Now for Saber.There is no way for Shirou to keep Saber in the future, he simply isnt capable to do it.That the Grail Wars would still continue doesnt mean that Shirou has to make a wish to an evil wish granting machine that wouldnt even fulfil that wish. Saber herself isnt mentally a 14 year old just because she looks like one.She faced her past, her choices, her subjects,understood her previous Master who unwillingly caused her much pain during the last moments of the last war and even if it was for a while she was happy to be with someone that understood her and loved her. The ending isnt tragic or bad, it's just bittersweet. And if you believe that the Last Episode from the Visual Novel actually happened then it isnt even a bittersweet ending. |
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